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Denzokuken | Posted 10/3/2008 7:28:28 AM | message detail
****ing bull**** I could have gone first with this and now you all cheaters do this gg Ike you did well but the power of the nerd was too great.
charmander6000 | Posted 10/3/2008 7:33:20 AM | message detail
You should have taken the power of the nerd into account when making your prediction then.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 45/60 Today's Match: Pikachu > Ike
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/3/2008 7:34:27 AM | message detail
Why do people always underestimate Blizzard?

Wait, I have Ramza advancing instead of Hogger. Shows what I know.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2008 7:34:45 AM | message detail
Also, this match also has more votes than any match involving Mudkip, and we all know what was going on there.

Either Arthas has a shocking amount of rally power or I'm actually right.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2008 7:34:47 AM | message detail
Apparently somebody forgot to consider the demographic of the internet -- especially GameFAQS.

So...Ike or CF?
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Denzokuken | Posted 10/3/2008 7:39:26 AM | message detail
I appreciate the power of the nerd but I didn't think they would cheat so much
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2008 7:40:39 AM | message detail
How am I being lol?

And Ike is stalling with the Europe pre-ASV. Expect him to make some small gains soon. If he does anything signifcant, he still has a shot.


well I see you answered your own question
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/3/2008 7:40:44 AM | message detail
Ike > Falcon

Though after his performance yesterday I may reconsider my placement.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 45/60 Today's Match: Pikachu > Ike
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/3/2008 7:44:02 AM | message detail

Lightning Strikes (#404)
Also, this match also has more votes than any match involving Mudkip, and we all know what was going on there.

Either Arthas has a shocking amount of rally power or I'm actually right.


Blizzard has shown it has a shocking amount of rally power in the past. Starcraft, anyone?

It's sad how now every time someone does better than expected, people claim it's because of cheating and their evidence is a vote spike every now or then, which you see in every match anyway.

Hell, many of Arthas' gains early on were more because of Ike having low spikes than Arthas rallying. This match is really not so much Arthas exploiting rallying than it is Ike choking. If you're pissed about the outcome of this match, blame Ike for pulling a Donkey Kong-like performance.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/3/2008 7:45:12 AM | message detail
Also, this match also has more votes than any match involving Mudkip, and we all know what was going on there.

Either Arthas has a shocking amount of rally power or I'm actually right.


The WC vs GTA match had one of the highest vote totals in the series contest. Cjay said that if anything GTA cheated more than WC, though the votes were blocked. Warcraft has a strong rallying power.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 45/60 Today's Match: Pikachu > Ike
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 7:50:14 AM | message detail
How in the world is this a DK-like performance? This match puts both Arthas and Ike at very respectable levels.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 7:55:45 AM | message detail
So this is what it feels like to want the Blizzard-rallied character to win.

Man I feel so dirty and bad augh hopefully I'm not put in this situation again darn you bracket.

Anyway, Arthas looks very good from here on out. Ike did almost nothing with the morning vote, and now Arthas gets more time to build his lead.
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Arthas/Ike/Pikachu/Spy - Bracket: Pikachu > Arthas - Vote: Uhh... (46/60)
Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2008 7:58:29 AM | message detail
What, saying Europe doesn't matter...?

See Crono's vote patterns. I rest my case.

Also, while there probably isn't a significant amount of cheating going on, that update where he cut on Pikachu and gained like 40 on Ike was at least a little suspicious.
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Kegger9 | Posted 10/3/2008 8:01:48 AM | message detail
LS, dont make me bust a whiner seconds post thing on you, just accept that you got this match wrong and move on.


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charmander6000 | Posted 10/3/2008 8:02:32 AM | message detail
Europe only matters for games that weren't released in that area (see SMRPG vs. SFII). Their affect is minimal at best which is represented as the DSV being a weak night vote.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 45/60 Today's Match: Pikachu > Ike
Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2008 8:04:34 AM | message detail
Fine. But.

STREET FIGHTER 2 LOST?
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hellfire104 | Posted 10/3/2008 8:06:25 AM | message detail
Ike is dead.
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Contest Point Total: 46 Rank: 96.7%tile, Tied for 1460
This Pick: Pikachu > Arthas
Denzokuken | Posted 10/3/2008 8:09:54 AM | message detail
your bracket is dead.
hellfire104 | Posted 10/3/2008 8:20:26 AM | message detail
Hardly, I'll be in the top 1% after today.
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Contest Point Total: 46 Rank: 96.7%tile, Tied for 1460
This Pick: Pikachu > Arthas
Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2008 8:20:51 AM | message detail
It's definitely over for Ike.

He'll probably make big cuts with the day vote even in presence of Pikachu, but by the time the ASV kicks in Arthas will be about 3000-3500 votes ahead. Scre Axel vs. Frog, it'd take a Sonic vs. Crono to beat that, and that isn't happening. I'll still say that Ike actually impressed here(unlike EVERYONE ELSE IN BRAWL who wasn't in Melee) but Arthas even more so.
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hellfire104 | Posted 10/3/2008 8:20:58 AM | message detail
Don't whine because you missed today's pick.
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Contest Point Total: 46 Rank: 96.7%tile, Tied for 1460
This Pick: Pikachu > Arthas
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 8:53:45 AM | message detail
Why are all the die-hard Arthas supporters in this topic acting like jerks?

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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 10/3/2008 8:55:39 AM | message detail
I thought it was standard fare for the supporters on the winning side of a close pick to douche it up for the day. It happens all the time, so I don't see why you're drawing specific attention to this group. >_>
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Kegger9 | Posted 10/3/2008 8:55:58 AM | message detail
Because we were right and you weren't



that's what I would be saying if I was a diehard Arthas supporter, but I only picked him because I thought he would do better than Ike, not because I like him.... in fact I know nothing about Arthas other than he comes from the Warcraft series


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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 8:56:48 AM | message detail
Gloating is standard fare, but the amount of douchiness being radiated by them seems worse than normal.

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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 9:02:11 AM | message detail
Well, it was one of the most hotly contested matches. Plus, its fun to laugh at people who seriously didn't think that Blizzards two biggest characters didn't LFF eachother. Its just HILLARIOUS
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H__RR____H | Posted 10/3/2008 9:02:49 AM | message detail
I barely know Arthas and have Pika > Arthas solely by statistical reasoning, but I think there's a lot of Arthas-related gloating because this was a very controversial match and a lot of people were being very ignorant with Ike. Not that taking Ike was ever a bad idea, but some of the arguments, the lengths of those arguments, and the lack of thought in those arguments...man, my head still hurts. Even if Ike beats Arthas, there were a lot of blind picks that people were trying too hard to justify.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/3/2008 9:04:08 AM | message detail
Yep, Ike's finished. I dunno why I never even really considered Arthas in my bracket. I took Ike and Pikachu from the start and never really thought twice about it. Either way, he's doing really well here, and if Falcon and Pikachu split, Arthas could advance again.

By the way, I still take Ike > Falcon, which is why I think Alucard > Pikachu (or maybe even Pikachu > Alucard) is the most likely result next round.

I take Pikachu > DK in this format, and he darn well better be or Tidus is in trouble. Argh, I'm okay with WCC advancing as long as it isn't as the expense of Tidus. Come on, DK! Work your choking magic!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 9:04:38 AM | message detail
I'd say that thinking Ike weaker would be than Marth is worse than any 'Arthas didn't get LFFd' argument I saw.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/3/2008 9:04:54 AM | message detail
Hey Ike, let's try some more updates like that the rest of the day!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/3/2008 9:05:44 AM | message detail
Tomorrow is the real match, guys.

Anyway, what do you guys think about Pikachu/Falcon in relation to Pikachu/Ike? If the Captain Falcon we saw yesterday was real, he'd likely be able to split Pikachu even better than Ike right now (unless Ike is getting a lot more Fire Emblem support than I'm assuming). Does this open the door for Alucard, and could Arthas's presence now hinder him?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 9:05:53 AM | message detail
Hey look, a cut

gg Arthas, Ike has this in the bag

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 9:07:17 AM | message detail
Pika>Arthas next round seems very, very likely at this point.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/3/2008 9:07:17 AM | message detail
...When was the door closed for Alucard? I thought he was the favorite for first place next round with the Guru.

And yeah, Ike cut Pikachu there. Game over, everyone. Here we go!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 9:09:51 AM | message detail
STALL STAAAALL Ike needs 16 votes and update to win, GG LICH KING


I don't think Alucard has the strength to win next round. Arthas is doing very, very well here, and while CF has more reason to split with Pikachu he's also weaker than Ike is.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/3/2008 9:12:11 AM | message detail
I thought Alucard did well enough last round. While Arthas is doing very well here and while Alucard is seemingly constantly on the way down, I don't know what was wrong with Alucard's performance. Sure, Falcon maybe got a little too close for comfort, but I guess it depends on what you think of it in relation to what you think of Ike's strength.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 9:13:14 AM | message detail
Next rounds match is even closer to release of Wrath of the Lich King, and I expect Arthas to grow stronger when hype for it builds more and more.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 9:13:24 AM | message detail
Even using a comparison to Kratos rather than CF to gauge how well Alucard did last round, I think Arthas is doing better than that right now.

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H__RR____H | Posted 10/3/2008 9:17:26 AM | message detail
I feel comfortable enough about Alucard > Arthas (though the upset could happen). I also feel comfortable enough with Pika > CF, and probably by more than what we're seeing today (though close). It should be a battle between Pika and Arthas for second, and if Arthas can't beat Pika with Ika here, I doubt he can when Ike's replaced with CF and there'll be fewer votes to contend for; Pokemon seem to be good for hardcore votes. Perhaps that's countered with rallying potential, but I still like Alucard > Pikachu.
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voltch | Posted 10/3/2008 9:27:59 AM | message detail
heh,sinc when has Ike been crashing vs Arthas?
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2008 9:42:59 AM | message detail
I still find it suspicious how every time Ike stalls or gains, Arthas makes an even bigger cut than usual.

Although, I must wonder about the next round. If Falcon does to Pikachu what he did to Diddy, could we get Alucard>Arthas? Then again, Fox destroyed Falcon, but Pikachu IS quite a bit different to Fox.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/3/2008 9:49:23 AM | message detail
Pikachu destroying Captain Falcon is more likely than a split like we see today. I still don't see Arthas finding a way to beat Pikachu next round, unless Spy is hindering him a lot or something. I just feel good about Pikachu and Alucard. Would you take Ike over Alucard? I'd have a hard time doing that.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 9:50:22 AM | message detail
I would consider it, but Alucard would be the favorite there.

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H__RR____H | Posted 10/3/2008 9:50:38 AM | message detail
Yeah, for whatever it's worth, Fox did SFF Pikachu pretty hard in 2k3 and Fox is a favorite in the SSB series. There's reason to think Pika can't SFF CF as hard as Fox did. Then again, that was one-on-one, five years ago, and pre-SSBB...so who knows how much that has changed.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2008 9:51:15 AM | message detail
In a heartbeat.

Well, not in this format(which helps Alucard A LOT) but 1 on 1.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/3/2008 9:51:34 AM | message detail
I'd be pretty surprised if Alucard and Pikachu aren't the ones moving on next round, even if Ike somehow comes back here (let's do this).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/3/2008 9:51:38 AM | message detail
It was also before the Nintendo shift, which apparently helped Pokemon tremendously. Fox probably beats Pikachu still today, but I doubt he doubles him anymore.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2008 9:54:22 AM | message detail
I will say, Arthas hasn't been gaining as much as I thought he would after that first huge DSV spike. I won't say a comeback is likely, but it could happen if Ike can even split the ASV even with Pikachu. Maybe. And Arthas would have to flatline, I guess.
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H__RR____H | Posted 10/3/2008 9:54:34 AM | message detail
I'm certain it's not a doubling one-on-one, but Pika probably wouldn't break 40%...in this format though, I could see Pika keeping close with Fox.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 9:55:18 AM | message detail
Ike could easily shave off 1000 votes with the ASV; he's very good with it. But winning? Come on, LS.

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