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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 583
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/2/2008 5:45:12 PM | message detail |
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He can't get his WC3 face pic in the first round. Cuz its close up, and
round 1 pics are at least half body. And this pic is plastered all over
video game sites for previews and ads. Its his most recognizable
picture. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:45:41 PM | message detail |
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Also, I'm not sure why Marth beating Duke cleanly doesn't say good
things for Ike. He basically has every reason to be just as strong as
Marth now, if not stronger. Except that SSBM characters are proving to be strong, and SSBB characters aren't. What Ike is to Brawl, Marth was to Melee. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:46:11 PM | message detail |
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So you think Scorpion is far above Duke, Marth, and Kefka? I'd take him to beat them, but not handily. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 5:46:24 PM | message detail |
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I think MK proved that Brawl characters who are supposed to get boosts will get boosts. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:48:10 PM | message detail |
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I think MK proved that Brawl characters who are supposed to get boosts will get boosts. Except he didn't get any. Reading a few posts earlier in the topic, it seems he got exactly what he was projected to get last year. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:48:36 PM | message detail |
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Except that SSBM characters are proving to be strong, and SSBB characters aren't. What Ike is to Brawl, Marth was to Melee. Ike's got plenty of reason to be stronger than the Brawl characters who have flopped so far. Name one of the Brawl floppers who is frequently used in the game. Oh, and Snake got a pretty nice boost from Brawl, if I do say so myself! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:48:53 PM | message detail |
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So you think Scorpion is far above Duke, Marth, and Kefka? I'd take him to beat them, but not handily. Scorpion above all of them. He would beat Marth by about 2/3%, and would crush Kefka easily. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/2/2008 5:49:42 PM | message detail |
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MK gained about 1% over what he woulda gotten on Ryu last year. And Ryu
is like the most consistant character, so I wouldn't expect much
weakening or strengthning for him, so 1% is barely a boost. Hell, that
1% could even be attributed to people voting for him to knock L Block
out. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 5:49:53 PM | message detail |
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Which is complete BS. MK's value last year is 22.8 on BL. He got as much on Ryu and L-Block. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:50:52 PM | message detail |
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Ike's got plenty of reason to be stronger than the Brawl characters
who have flopped so far. Name one of the Brawl floppers who is
frequently used in the game. I've seen Diddy used a lot. I've seen Wario used a lot. I've seen Lucario used a lot. Then again, I just play with friends, and we pick Random every time. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:51:25 PM | message detail |
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Not trusting stats with a match involving the L-Block. It makes
everything pretty whacked out. Maybe it can be trusted this year, but
I'm being skeptical. Either way, Ike still being on the level of Duke Nukem is enough to beat Arthas, honestly. I'd take Duke over Arthas. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2008 5:51:43 PM | message detail |
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So I come back to a lot of picfear, aww yeah. I like Arthas's chances
with the pic though. Still, the contrast for everyone here is terrible. I don't even know who I'm going to vote tomorrow. a blizzard character, the one bastard i can't play and hate to play against in brawl, a crappy rodent pokemon, or a character from the overrated tf2 (hopefully that didn't piss off fanboys of those respective series) --- Moltar Status: augh Alucard/C. Falcon/Diddy Kong/Kratos A. - Bracket: Alucard > Diddy - Vote: Diddy (44/56) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 5:51:44 PM | message detail |
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If you think Wario of all people is used a lot, you don't know much about Brawl casuals. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/2/2008 5:52:59 PM | message detail |
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LeonhartFour (#311) Diablo (2005c) VS Duke Nukem (2007c) Diablo has a strength of 24.22. Duke Nukem has a strength of 20.87. Diablo wins with 56.92% of the vote! A win of 14,848 with 107,346 total votes cast. And Arthas proved to be stronger then Diablo last year And this is pre Wotlk boost Stop underestimating Arthas, plz. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:54:11 PM | message detail |
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If you think Wario of all people is used a lot, you don't know much about Brawl casuals. Correction, I don't care enough about Brawl casuals. I also don't think being the strongest in Brawl means anything, since as of now, the only thing the past results are showing me is that Brawl characters are weak. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:55:47 PM | message detail |
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Diablo (2005c) has a strength of 24.22 against Base Link. KOS-MOS (2005c) has a strength of 21.30 against Base Link. Diablo 56.03% 55,116 KOS-MOS 43.97% 43,256 TOTAL VOTES 98,373 Diablo wins with 56.03% of the vote! A 11,860 vote margin of victory. I can play that game, too! LOL Using one-on-one stats against fourway stats Diablo (2005c) has a strength of 24.22 against Base Link. KOS-MOS (2007c) has a strength of 19.28 against Base Link. Diablo 60.20% 63,428 KOS-MOS 39.80% 41,938 TOTAL VOTES 105,366 Diablo wins with 60.20% of the vote! A 21,491 vote margin of victory. Wee! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 5:56:46 PM | message detail |
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Correction, I don't care enough about Brawl casuals. I also don't
think being the strongest in Brawl means anything, since as of now, the
only thing the past results are showing me is that Brawl characters are
weak. So you're basically going to use the characters who had little reason to boost as an example of why the one character with the best chance of boosting won't? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 5:57:05 PM | message detail |
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Ike (2007c) VS Arthas (2007c) Ike has a strength of 19.51. Arthas has a strength of 16.78. Ike wins with 57.00% of the vote! Sarah Kerrigan (2007c) VS Sarah Kerrigan (2006c) Sarah Kerrigan has a strength of 12.79. Sarah Kerrigan has a strength of 13.93. Sarah Kerrigan wins with 54.09% of the vote! A win of 9,507 with 116,164 total votes cast. Thrall (2007c) VS Pit (2007c) Thrall has a strength of 14.90. Pit has a strength of 15.73. Pit wins with 52.64% of the vote! A win of 7,054 with 133,679 total votes cast. lol Blizzard in this format --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:57:41 PM | message detail |
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Meta Knight probably got most of his Brawl boost last year from the
trailer. The actual release of the game probably did little for him. I
really doubt he beats Peach last year (and definitely not that easily)
without that trailer. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/2/2008 5:57:42 PM | message detail |
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You realize I gave Duke the better stats of his. Lets see his 2004 stats, last time he was in the contest before last year. Diablo (2005c) VS Duke Nukem (2004c) Diablo has a strength of 24.22. Duke Nukem has a strength of 20.47. Diablo wins with 57.74% of the vote! A win of 14,050 with 90,746 total votes cast. And Lets see 2005 Diablo vs. 2005 Kosmos, taking out the 4way format Diablo (2005c) VS KOS-MOS (2005c) Diablo has a strength of 24.22. KOS-MOS has a strength of 21.30. Diablo wins with 56.03% of the vote! A win of 11,860 with 98,373 total votes cast. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 5:58:42 PM | message detail |
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I love how Leon and Albion both used the same match to try and prove different points. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/2/2008 6:00:31 PM | message detail |
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Man, what will there be to talk about once Ike / Arthas is over. --- sig |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:00:56 PM | message detail |
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So you're basically going to use the characters who had little reason to boost as an example of why the one character with the best chance of boosting won't? The same reason that I don't think random scrub from ToS will boost because other "less cool" characters from that game didn't. Those character's are not strong. Therefore, I can conclude that every other character from that game isn't strong too. Every character exclusively to Brawl = not strong. That's saying that Brawl = not strong. Now sure, Ike could potentially have a Samus effect where he's much more popular then his game, but I don't buy it. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/2/2008 6:01:08 PM | message detail |
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Debate time, boys! Let's watch two other people debate for once. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITS Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 6:01:22 PM | message detail |
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Kefka (2005c) has a strength of 22.71 against Base Link. Duke Nukem (2007c) has a strength of 20.87 against Base Link. Kefka 54.05% 60,332 Duke Nukem 45.95% 51,288 TOTAL VOTES 111,620 Kefka wins with 54.05% of the vote! A 9,044 vote margin of victory. Wee! Although the 2007 stats correctly have Duke over Kefka! Imagine that! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:01:48 PM | message detail |
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Ike (2007c) VS Arthas (2007c) Ike has a strength of 19.51. Arthas has a strength of 16.78. Ike wins with 57.00% of the vote! I know you used this as a joke, but I hope no one takes this seriously. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 6:02:55 PM | message detail |
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Why? Because Arthas was "LFF'd" by Diablo? Keep thinkin' that! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:03:48 PM | message detail |
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Why? Because Arthas was "LFF'd" by Diablo? Aren't you a firm believer that Luigi got screwed last year because of Pikachu? --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/2/2008 6:04:56 PM | message detail |
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I'm fine with Gordon boosting from Orange Box, it makes sense, but in
the first round, he was as weak as Duke and Ike, and then Duke stayed
the same in the next round after Gordon boosted. That all makes sense. Where this stops making sense, is when Duke comes second in that fourpack, unless Kefka has dropped off the map between last year and this and Marth was never that strong to begin with. Hell, even round 1 last year makes no sense since Gordon looked like a decent midcarder in 2005 and 2006, why was he struggling with Duke Nukem? |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 6:05:25 PM | message detail |
| Honestly, Pikachu doesn't seem to have affected
Luigi that much. There a little LFF, yeah, but it's not like Dante
already wasn't already stronger than Luigi and completely kicking ass
that year. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:08:14 PM | message detail |
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Where this stops making sense, is when Duke comes second in that fourpack, unless Kefka has dropped off the map between last year and this and Marth was never that strong to begin with. Kefka sucks. I don't know what else to say on that. He was always weak, and he always performs a hell of a lot worst then most people on here project him to be. Marth had Nintendo's backing in that match. Hell, even round 1 last year makes no sense since Gordon looked like a decent midcarder in 2005 and 2006, why was he struggling with Duke Nukem? That just proves that Duke is strong in these types of matches. Stop thinking he's so weak and it will make sense. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Spark Mandrill | Posted 10/2/2008 6:10:48 PM | message detail |
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I'd much sooner believe that the Pokemon and Mario fanbases overlap a hell of a lot more than WC's and Diablo's. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:11:46 PM | message detail |
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I'd much sooner believe that the Pokemon and Mario fanbases overlap a hell of a lot more than WC's and Diablo's. Why? Because they're both on the same gaming system and because they're from the same company? (can you guess which two series I'm talking about here?). --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Spark Mandrill | Posted 10/2/2008 6:13:16 PM | message detail |
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XxSoulxX (#333) Why? Because they're both on the same gaming system and because they're from the same company? (can you guess which two series I'm talking about here?). How about because one pair are two flagship series with fans that like both games about the same and one has fans that like both, but heavily favor one over the other. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/2/2008 6:15:54 PM | message detail |
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If Biolizard wants to be ignorant, thats okay. But he's just showing he
doesn't know what Blizzard is about. Blizzards fanbase is as loyal to
the company as any. Warcraft and Diablo fanbases overlap as much as any
top gaming companies series would. Its okay if you don't know about
Blizzard and just assume they don't, but the fact is they is. Battlenet
itself proves this. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:16:18 PM | message detail |
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How about because one pair are two flagship series with fans that
like both games about the same and one has fans that like both, but heavily favor one over the other. Which explains why Mario would SFF Pikachu into a ground, and why Diablo and Arthas would LFF each other. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 6:17:15 PM | message detail |
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Alright, this argument is getting too convoluted. Let's break it down: Pros for Ike>Arthas - Gordon, Duke, and even Guybrush - the guys that Ike faced last year - have all done well this year. - If any character is going to get a Brawl boost, it's him. - Inherently stronger based on last year's X-stats (not taking LFF into account). - Had another FE game come out since the last contest. - KOS-MOS, the character that Arthas lost to last year, underperformed a bit. - There may not have been much, if any, Blizzard LFF between Arthas and Diablo last year. Pros for Arthas>Ike - Pikachu will LFF Ike. - Pic advantage. - His mug has been plastered on ads around GameFAQs. - If there was LFF between him and Diablo, it might have been a lot. - Hype for the new WoW expansion. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:17:30 PM | message detail |
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Actually Bio, be more specific. I posted my thing as a joke, but I really can't tell what two series are where in your post. You think people prefer Warcraft much more then Diablo? Or Mario much more then Pokemon? --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Spark Mandrill | Posted 10/2/2008 6:19:46 PM | message detail |
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I'd say that a lot of Blizzard fans would favor WC over Diablo or vice
versa heavily enough for them to count as semi-separate fanbases. I may
be wrong, but it's just what I believe. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/2/2008 6:20:12 PM | message detail |
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Kefka sucks. I don't know what else to say on that. He was always
weak, and he always performs a hell of a lot worst then most people on
here project him to be. Marth had Nintendo's backing in that match. I don't really want to get into this argument, but I couldn't help but find this amusing. What's Diablo's most notable victory? And don't pretty much all arguments for Arthas come down to him edging out the big D? --- Mustache...and green... |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:21:15 PM | message detail |
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I don't really want to get into this argument, but I couldn't help but find this amusing. What's Diablo's most notable victory? And don't pretty much all arguments for Arthas come down to him edging out the big D? Diablo's loss to Ganondorf and to Sonic. He hasn't had much of a shot against any other characters. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Spark Mandrill | Posted 10/2/2008 6:21:16 PM | message detail |
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As far as I know, the fact he got, like, 35% on Sonic, a character who
nearly bombed out to Squall last year, is his most impressive feat. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/2/2008 6:21:24 PM | message detail |
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-acts like Biolizard- hey guys, crono and cloud wouldn't LFF eachother AT ALL since they're different series lol --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:22:53 PM | message detail |
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As far as I know, the fact he got, like, 35% on Sonic, a character
who nearly bombed out to Squall last year, is his most impressive feat. Get off your horse. What's Ike's most impressive showing? Or how about Marth if you want to pull the whole "Ike is new" crap. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 6:23:03 PM | message detail |
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That's one of the worst examples possible. If Kefka wasn't too adversely affected by Cloud, why would Crono? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/2/2008 6:23:09 PM | message detail |
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You might want to check that 35% on Sonic, you're off by a bit. Oh, and
I forgot. He beat that Tales character that's doing so well here, too. --- Mustache...and green... |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/2/2008 6:23:21 PM | message detail |
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- KOS-MOS, the character that Arthas lost to last year, underperformed a bit. No, no, NO |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 6:23:55 PM | message detail |
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That's one of the worst examples possible. If Kefka wasn't too adversely affected by Cloud, why would Crono? Not defending the example, but in order to be SFFed, one must have somewhat of a fanbase to lose. Kefka really doesn't... --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Spark Mandrill | Posted 10/2/2008 6:24:09 PM | message detail |
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_Hogger_ (#343) -acts like Biolizard- hey guys, crono and cloud wouldn't LFF eachother AT ALL since they're different series lol You honestly think Crono and Cloud share that much of a fanbase? My God. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/2/2008 6:25:01 PM | message detail |
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If Cloud and Squall shared enough of a fanbase for Cloud to completly decimate him, then Crono and Clodu would too. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
