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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 583
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:51:34 PM | message detail |
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http://img.imgcake.com/matchpic.png Huh. I thought Link had his match already? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| greatone10 | Posted 10/2/2008 4:14:15 PM | message detail |
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Spy --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 4:15:24 PM | message detail |
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Gentlemen...I am not a spy. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/2/2008 4:25:58 PM | message detail |
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Sword van will take care of you! --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Annoying posters! I am the great wavedash! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 4:26:23 PM | message detail |
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You got blood on my suit. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Gerik22 | Posted 10/2/2008 4:30:54 PM | message detail |
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Ike>Pikachu all the way. --- ~~~Gerik22~~~ |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 4:32:02 PM | message detail |
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I guarantee that Pikachu and Arthas will advance. Arthas has a shot of finishing in first, but it's a long shot. Hell, I'm actually starting to think that Spy will finish ahead of Ike. Now that will be the match everyone wants to see. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 4:36:06 PM | message detail |
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I guarantee How many times have we heard those two words before in this contest? >_> --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/2/2008 4:37:08 PM | message detail |
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XxSoulxX (#257) Join the club. Pikachu will win, Arthas will do decent, Spy will surprise with Valve strength, Ike will bomb like Lucario, Wario, and Diddy before him. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 4:38:10 PM | message detail |
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How many times have you heard me say that in this contest? - I guaranteed Duke was placing. - I guaranteed Gordon was much closer to Scorpion then everyone was giving him credit for. You can add Pikachu > Arthas (or Arthas > Pikachu) to that list. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 4:39:29 PM | message detail |
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I meant in general. We just saw Captain Falcon crush two characters he
was 'guaranteed' to lose too. It's not a smart word to use in debatable
matches. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 4:40:09 PM | message detail |
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For someone so high on Duke and Gordon I don't really get why you're betting against Ike here, Soul. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2008 4:42:04 PM | message detail |
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How many times have you heard me say that in this contest? I dunno but I remember you saying it in the very first match about Zack bombing !! (and then immediately closing the topic after he started dominating forshame cowardice) --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/2/2008 4:44:18 PM | message detail |
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You'll like how you look. I guarantee it. --- CB7 Score: 46/56 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 4:46:06 PM | message detail |
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Although Ike/Gordon/Duke shared a match, it doesn't mean they are
attached at the hip. In fact, since I was so right about everyone in
that match so far, you should trust me with Ike's placement. Gordon was strong heading into that match, and Duke beat him. Therefore, Duke is strong. That's all you need to know why he came in second in his match (Niko is weak, Kefka is fodder). Gordon boosted big time last year, and that's why he was so close to Scorpion this year. Out of all the matches so far, everything points to Brawl newcomers failing. You can say MK didn't disappoint, but he had a great shot at coming in second there and blew it big time. Ike is no different from these guys. He is a Brawl newcomer. You know the saying "the best pile of crap is still a pile of crap!"? That goes for Ike. He may be the most played in Brawl, but he's still crap and will perform like crap. Add in the fact that Pikachu is much more popular then the entire Fire Emblem series itself, and will sap almost all of Nintendo's fanbase away from him (and that includes Brawl), Ike stands no chance whatsoever. I don't know how everyone doesn't see this. Maybe because I haven't played his game so I'm not biased... Maybe that's why I can see how much of a failure he will be. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 4:47:03 PM | message detail |
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Ike is essentially equal to Gordon last year though. if you're calling Ike crap, you're also calling last year's Gordon crap. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/2/2008 4:47:12 PM | message detail |
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Are you 4REAL. --- CB7 Score: 46/56 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 4:47:37 PM | message detail |
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I dunno but I remember you saying it in the very first match about Zack bombing !! (and then immediately closing the topic after he started dominating forshame cowardice) ... I don't know what you're talking about. I'm pretty sure the topic you're talking about is when I said I wasn't taking him to the finals because he was reminding me of Balthier. I don't remember ever guaranteeing Wario will beat him. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 4:48:21 PM | message detail |
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Ike is essentially equal to Gordon last year though. if you're calling Ike crap, you're also calling last year's Gordon crap. Gordon beat Ike. And compared to this year's Gordon, yes, last year's Gordon was crap. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 4:49:38 PM | message detail |
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In fact, since I was so right about everyone in that match so far, you should trust me with Ike's placement. Soul, don't even try to pretend you pegged Duke and Gordon out of anything other than fanboyism. Just because I called Zidane's match doesn't mean it was because I am the stats topic's next expert; it just means I liked Zidane enough to rationalize the pick enough. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 4:50:36 PM | message detail |
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Although Ike/Gordon/Duke shared a match, it doesn't mean they are
attached at the hip. In fact, since I was so right about everyone in
that match so far, you should trust me with Ike's placement. Not when it supports an almost contradiction and I have reason to doubt that you analyse people such as Gordon Freeman in a completely unbiased fashion. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 4:52:04 PM | message detail |
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I don't even know Duke. I played my first Duke game about a week ago, and that was the Duke 3D demo. And no, the Gordon pick wasn't because of fanboyism. The fact that I got pissed off at people because they thought Gordon was cheating was because of fanboyism. I pegged Gordon being stronger then he was thought to be because he proved it last year and most people in this topic didn't believe it. Nothing to do with fanboyism. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 4:54:00 PM | message detail |
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haha I can't resist posting "Gordon Freeman's girlfriend" --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 4:54:10 PM | message detail |
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So he proved it last year. After scraping by Ike. But Ike is still crap. What. Gordon Freeman more like Gordon Fanman. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 4:56:48 PM | message detail |
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I mean I use some degree of fanboy logic from time to time too but I'd
like to say I at least extrapolate my other fanboy logic from it in a
consistent manner. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 4:57:48 PM | message detail |
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Anyone who says they don't use fanboy logic occasionally is a dirty, dirty liar. It's nearly impossible not to. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/2/2008 5:01:49 PM | message detail |
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I'm pretty good about keeping fanboy logic on the sidelines. It's
probably a lot easier when your favorite characters are Link, Snake,
and a bunch of KotOR guys who'll never see the light of contest day. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 5:02:31 PM | message detail |
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Tim for CBVII champion --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/2/2008 5:03:06 PM | message detail |
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Cecil > Black-haired Cloud --- "Dreaming of one day flying, it practices by leaping off cliffs every day." ~Bagon's Pokedex entry |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 5:03:22 PM | message detail |
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Psh, I saw that Link with 68% prediction on the Zidane match, yo. Or was that Swift? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/2/2008 5:05:09 PM | message detail |
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Of course that was me! My point is it doesn't really matter because one
of my favorite characters always wins (barring block interference), the
other almost always wins, and the others won't even see a contest. Sooo
solid. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:15:45 PM | message detail |
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Anyone who says they don't use fanboy logic occasionally is a dirty, dirty liar. It's nearly impossible not to. I picked Knuckles to beat Zelda. I think Spy has a chance at upsetting here. I think Cube could finish ahead of Tidus. I believe Heavy is being overlooked big time and could place. Those are my "fanboy" picks. I try justifying them just like everyone else, but I know that it's a risk taking them. Taking Duke was not a fanboy pick as in my mind, he was legitimately stronger then the other two. Predicting Gordon to be stronger then what he was pegged was not a fanboy pick because he was that strong and proved it last year. Anyways, enough of that, back to the match at hand here. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 5:18:10 PM | message detail |
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because he was that strong and proved it last year. But he got 2% over Ike. Listen, I agree with you now, but I'm just saying if I thought Duke and Gordon were anything but fodder when I made my bracket you could be damn sure I'd have Ike in my bracket here. Ike's going to ruin this match. Arthas is so screwed. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:18:54 PM | message detail |
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Gordon boosted big time last year, and that's why he was so close to Scorpion this year. Actually, I highly doubt Gordon boosted that highly. Gordon wasn't THAT far back of Sub-Zero last year, and Sub-Zero > Scorpion (This has been confirmed by several matches, and I don't know why people continue to deny it). By the end of the match, Scorpion was beating Gordon by 2000 votes. Sub-Zero beat out Gordon by 5000 votes or so last year. Just call it the difference between the two negligible. Of course, I guess you're saying that Gordon boosted between rounds 1 and 2 because of Duke. That's a pretty big boost, going from barely losing to beating Duke 60/40 over the span of a round. Weird performances happen. Look at the difference between Sonic and Sub-Zero from round 1 to round 2. If you're saying that was because of Brawl, then Squall would've smoked him had it not been for that announcement. Either way, saying Meta Knight disappointed isn't quite right. That's just looking at things from a weird perspective. Just because people said he had a shot to beat L-Block and he didn't doesn't mean he bombed. That's just people hoping L-Block would disappoint or get LFF'd by The Dog, which ended up not happening. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:21:48 PM | message detail |
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Of course, I guess you're saying that Gordon boosted between rounds 1 and 2 because of Duke. That's a pretty big boost, going from barely losing to beating Duke 60/40 over the span of a round. Weird performances happen. Look at the difference between Sonic and Sub-Zero from round 1 to round 2. If you're saying that was because of Brawl, then Squall would've smoked him had it not been for that announcement. Orange Box came out a couple of days before that match on 360, and about a week before that on the PC. That was when it was brand new too. I expected Gordon to be stronger because of that, and he was. Duke was just the measuring stick that year. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/2/2008 5:26:13 PM | message detail |
| Damn it, that's a terrible Arthas picture. Goddamn Bacon, it's a damn good thing Ike is completely out of contention. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:27:40 PM | message detail |
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So when are you saying he boosted? This year or last year? If it's this
year, I'd say you're wrong because of the comparisons between Sub-Zero
and Scorpion. Sub-Zero is stronger than Scorpion, and Scorpion still
beat Gordon by 2000 votes by the time it was said and done. If last year, I wouldn't look at the match with Duke as an indicator of that. Like I said, Sonic/Sub-Zero in that very same match is an indicator that strange over/underperformances happen between rounds. Alucard did the same thing to Liquid. There was absolutely no reason to crush Liquid, but he did. And speaking of tomorrow's match, Pikachu had those weird performances almost every round. Hayabusa/Riku was a strange case, too. For all we know, Duke/Gordon round 2 was a fluke. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/2/2008 5:28:15 PM | message detail |
| The only issue with that is why the hell did Duke look so good this year compared to round 2 last year. Either Gordon or Duke is the problem here. Who is up for debate and we might find out next round. |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/2/2008 5:30:43 PM | message detail |
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Hayabusa/Riku was a strange case, too. Actually, this one was pretty clear, Roxas rSFF in Round 1, then Riku unleashed in Round 2. The only odd part of the Round 1 match may have been just how much Roxas held Riku down. --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 Looking for a new sig. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:32:26 PM | message detail |
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But that basically means that Hayabusa got absolutely none of the
support that Roxas and Haseo had from the round before, which...well,
pretty much never happens. Hayabusa getting 45% and then losing the
next round was strange. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/2/2008 5:33:55 PM | message detail |
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BlAcK TuRtLe (#288) I think Duke, like, say, Pac-Man, thrives on his status. Kefka, Marth, Ike, Niko, Guybrush, and....I'm missing someone, aren't icons. So when Duke ran into a fellow icon in Sonic, it killed his support. --- "Dreaming of one day flying, it practices by leaping off cliffs every day." ~Bagon's Pokedex entry |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:34:09 PM | message detail |
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Damn it, that's a terrible Arthas picture. The best anyone could hope for if you're worried about his performance. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:34:58 PM | message detail |
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Kefka, Marth, Ike, Niko, Guybrush, and....I'm missing someone, aren't icons LOL Gordon --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/2/2008 5:36:38 PM | message detail |
| I would take Warcraft 3 Arthas over WoW Arthas. Especially since WotLK isn't even out yet, but w/e. I think his WC3 mugshot is way more recognizable. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:37:35 PM | message detail |
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I think Duke, like, say, Pac-Man, thrives on his status. Kefka, Marth, Ike, Niko, Guybrush, and....I'm missing someone, aren't icons. So when Duke ran into a fellow icon in Sonic, it killed his support. Let me put it logically. Gordon and Duke = similar characters. Both strong. -Round 1 = Duke beats Gordon, but both stay near each other. Gordon gets Orange Box. -Round 2 = Gordon beats Duke, and takes some of his voters too. Next year. -Duke beats GTA scrub and lettuce. Reason? He's still strong. Nothing changed from year to year. -Gordon almost beats Scorpion. Reason? At the very least, he's stayed constant from his round 2 match last year, but most likely rose a bit too. It's quite simple once you actually think about it. Nothing to do with icon status. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:38:37 PM | message detail |
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I would take Warcraft 3 Arthas over WoW Arthas. Especially since
WotLK isn't even out yet, but w/e. I think his WC3 mugshot is way more
recognizable. Are you one of the people who thinks Warcraft 3 would defeat WoW in a poll? --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:41:18 PM | message detail |
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I just find it hard to believe Gordon rose THAT much from the Orange
Box. It basically means that Scorpion would've crushed that first round
fourpack with Duke had he been in it. I'm more inclined to think
Duke/Gordon was a fluke match. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:41:43 PM | message detail |
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That first round fourpack meaning the one he had this year, not last year. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 5:42:56 PM | message detail |
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Also, I'm not sure why Marth beating Duke cleanly doesn't say good
things for Ike. He basically has every reason to be just as strong as
Marth now, if not stronger. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/2/2008 5:44:36 PM | message detail |
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I just find it hard to believe Gordon rose THAT much from the Orange
Box. It basically means that Scorpion would've crushed that first round
fourpack with Duke had he been in it. I'm more inclined to think
Duke/Gordon was a fluke match. I explained this before, but I'll use an example to help you understand. Snake = Sony character. Forget his GC game happened. He is, for all intents and purposes, the main Sony character. Now, make MGS4 available for the PS2, PS3, 360, and Wii. Watch as the sales soar, and watch how it's loved by critics and fans. How much of a raise do you think Snake would get? Now, take a PC character. A character that this site rarely knows since this site has no idea what a PC game is, pretty much. Now, put that character in the best game to come out that year, and make it available for all the major consoles. That's Gordon's boost, in a nutshell. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
