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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 583

trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 3:17:38 PM | message detail
how is that a bad picture for Ike? it looks like Ike.
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Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 3:17:56 PM | message detail
Arthas looks like a hardcore badass. No way does Spy get anything on that.

... no I'm not Albion.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/2/2008 3:18:13 PM | message detail
Makes it easier for me to run him over like roadkill tbqh.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:18:34 PM | message detail
The Ike pic probably doesn't matter, but I'm getting annoyed at Bacon picking pics that have already been used that are also inferior to other pics submitted.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2008 3:19:20 PM | message detail
Nothing wrong with that Ike pic - although Pika standing out like HELL might tip the Ninty SFF decisively if it was iffy before. Feeling marginally better about Arthas, but Pika should dominate this match.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/2/2008 3:19:51 PM | message detail
Pikachu has been a popular casual pick in every Smash game. He's easy to use, was the best character in the original, and is actually even more casual friendly in Brawl compared to Melee now that his down smash rocks
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Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 3:20:12 PM | message detail
Part of me thinks Bacon just puts all of the pictures in a hat and has a drawing sometimes, really. I just don't understand some of his choices. Or maybe he's being biased who knows.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 3:20:56 PM | message detail
Seriously, what's so cool about that Arthas pic? I kept hearing good things about it, and now I'm disappointed having seen it. I'm not seein' the appeal. Well, other than the big sword, I guess. Can't see a face or anything. The contrast between that pic and the one he got last year is huge. People are going to recognize that as Arthas? Is that sword distinct?

Well, people ought to recognize the name anyway.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:21:37 PM | message detail
Ugh. I just lost all confidence in Ike as soon as I saw that pic. He doesn't stand out or look cool at all compared to everyone else. It's probably irrational, but I just can't shake the feeling that Ike just got pic screwed.

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wavedash101 | Posted 10/2/2008 3:21:57 PM | message detail
lol @ no contrast usage at all. Pikachu especially
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2008 3:22:30 PM | message detail
People are going to recognize that as Arthas? Is that sword distinct?

It's basically the definitive "Wrath of the Lich King hype" picture. Less WC3 advantage, more WoW.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/2/2008 3:22:48 PM | message detail
Seriously, what's so cool about that Arthas pic? I kept hearing good things about it, and now I'm disappointed having seen it. I'm not seein' the appeal. Well, other than the big sword, I guess. Can't see a face or anything. The contrast between that pic and the one he got last year is huge. People are going to recognize that as Arthas? Is that sword distinct?

Well, people ought to recognize the name anyway.


It's pretty objectively badass, but it's also been plastered everywhere. Maybe your ad-block programs work better than mine, but I've seen that same picture promoting Wrath of the Lich King on this site quite a few times.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/2/2008 3:22:48 PM | message detail

LeonhartFour (#208)
Seriously, what's so cool about that Arthas pic? I kept hearing good things about it, and now I'm disappointed having seen it. I'm not seein' the appeal. Well, other than the big sword, I guess. Can't see a face or anything. The contrast between that pic and the one he got last year is huge. People are going to recognize that as Arthas? Is that sword distinct?

Well, people ought to recognize the name anyway.



This. When I heard of "Arthas good, and Arthas bad", I fully thought that Arthas got his bad one.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:23:02 PM | message detail
That Arthas pic has been used constantly in ads on GameFAQs for a while now. He's fine.

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trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 3:23:40 PM | message detail
that picture is the face of the new World of Warcraft expansion.

http://worldofwarcraftblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/lichkingwow.jpg

it's not that it's great, but if Arthas got a full-body shot from WC3... let's just say it isn't pretty.
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Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 3:23:46 PM | message detail
Actually while Albion was ranting to me about how Arthas REALLY needed that pic I kinda thought that too, Leon.

Personally, I don't recognize that as Arthas. I'm a huge WC3 fan but I've never gone all the way through the campaign and he doesn't look like that for most of it he looks like the other Arthas. Plus he's not on the box.

Given that the game is hugely multiplayer driven I wouldn't be surprised if this is a common thing, either.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/2/2008 3:24:14 PM | message detail
But any WC3 fan who voted for him last time probably won't have any trouble recognizing him this time. I mean, come on. I think this is easily the best pic Arthas could have hoped for. No excuses, mister!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 3:24:30 PM | message detail
I don't usually spend any time on the front page other than voting in the poll, so that's probably why I haven't seen that pic.

But yeah, it's objectively a pretty cool pic, but I'm not feeling inclined to vote for Arthas now, and I don't even really care about anyone in this match.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:24:32 PM | message detail
Take my word for it; my 'Arthas bad' pic looks stupid as hell. This helps him.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2008 3:26:13 PM | message detail
Yeah, this was basically as good as it could have been in terms of a full body shot. Next round (if he gets there) he should nab his up close face mug from last year.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 3:27:39 PM | message detail
I almost took Arthas to round 3 because that picture is really distinct. way better than this one, if you ask me.

plus the whole Diddy/Pikachu being there thing LOL
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:28:15 PM | message detail
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2900/ikegb0.png
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/Biolizard28/Ike.png

Alternate Ike pics that were submitted. Do any of you think one of these would have been a better choice?

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Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 3:30:13 PM | message detail
I'm a potential Arthas voter. I like the character and everything... I don't recognize that as Arthas, though. But I get it by the name. Still, I'm sure there are at least some out there that won't know when I think about my situation.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 3:30:19 PM | message detail
the last one is the worst of the three. the first one's about the same as the match pic, though I like the match pic more.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 10/2/2008 3:31:39 PM | message detail
I was going to submit the FE10 Ike. That would have been the best imo. But I was lazy and didn't make it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:37:06 PM | message detail
Alright, now that I've gotten the obligatory pic whining out of my system, here's something regarding Arthas I've seen brought up but never really addressed.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2880&num=4

For Arthas to be that strong, he would have to be way above Thrall. Never played WC series, so that might be possible, but isn't Thrall the main character of a campaign or something?

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LordLockeRA | Posted 10/2/2008 3:38:56 PM | message detail
Thrall was probably the best-known character going into Warcraft 3 (thanks to the vaporare Warcraft Adventures and it's later novelization) and the closest thing the game has to a genuine hero.

That said, Arthas is probably the biggest mover-and-shaker in War 3, and he's got a WoW expansion named after him hitting next month. At this point, I'd assume Arthas is the stronger of the two.
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Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 3:39:50 PM | message detail
Arthas is much more significant to the WC3 plot than Thrall.

This is like comparing Kerrigan to like... a less badass Zeratul or something. (probably went over most people's heads this comparsion why do I bother)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:40:01 PM | message detail
Oh, of course Arthas is stronger. I'm just saying, for him to beat a boosted Ike he needs to be a lot stronger, and I'm not sure if that's possible.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 3:40:27 PM | message detail
Currently, Alucard has 55.78% on Captain Falcon, 65.24% on Diddy, and 67.92% on Kratos.

Falcon has 59.80% on Diddy and 62.66% on Kratos.

Diddy has 53.01% on Kratos.

Fun Facts: Alucard got 52.22% on Ness last year. Looks like Ness has the upper hand slightly on Captain Falcon indirectly.

Midna got 53.95% on Kratos last year. Tight fight between Diddy and Midna, perhaps?

Scorpion got 63.46% on Kratos last year.

Also, I'm thinking Diddy is basically a DK-lite as far as trends go. Isn't DK more night-oriented for a Nintendo character?
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LordLockeRA | Posted 10/2/2008 3:40:49 PM | message detail
lolBRAWLFEAR
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:40:52 PM | message detail
Psh, I liked Zeratul, Tassadar, and Jim better than Kerrigan. They deserve to get in!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2008 3:41:44 PM | message detail
For Arthas to be that strong, he would have to be way above Thrall.

Even being held down by Diablo SFF, Arthas is projected to beat Thrall pretty comfortably last year. Now if you don't believe in Blizzard SFF that's another thing, but even if Arthas can't go the distance here it's pretty clear he's out of Thrall's league.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 3:42:59 PM | message detail
Thrall lost the day vote outright to Ratchet by a full percent. That's pretty pathetic.
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Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 3:43:17 PM | message detail
Zeratul, acceptable. Jim, maybe. Tassadar? Get out of town. Not enough Kerrigan appreciation here.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:43:43 PM | message detail
Eh, I have my doubts about his match with Diablo. There was LFF, obviously, but not that much, and I think he overperformed due to having a face pic which is also the cover art of WC3.

Of course, I am IKE FAN EXTRAORDINAIRE, so take me with a grain of salt.

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Yesmar | Posted 10/2/2008 3:44:50 PM | message detail
I think Arthas looks completely awesome in his picture, but is this just a picture from the advertising, because if there's no game out where he looks like that, might I remind you of:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb2k6/cb557.jpg

That being said, I no nothing about Warcraft really, and this is partly a different situation. Does he look like anything approaching that in an actual game?


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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:45:13 PM | message detail
Hmm, so who should be winning initially? Arthas gets the board vote, but I'm not sure if he should be good with the night vote or not.

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/2/2008 3:45:56 PM | message detail
If Arthas is beating Ike with the board vote, Arthas is advancing easily, imho.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 3:46:07 PM | message detail
Ike gets the board vote. if Arthas is ahead after five minutes, I'd call it over.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/2/2008 3:46:17 PM | message detail
And by board vote, I mean like, the first hour >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:46:55 PM | message detail
Guys, Shadow the Hedgehog got the board vote against Zidane (relatively speaking). People here care about their brackets more than the characters when a match is on the line.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/2/2008 3:48:21 PM | message detail
So uhh....Spy has the best picture in that group but uhh....

WE LIKE IKE
WE LIKE IKE
WE LIKE IKE
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/2/2008 3:48:22 PM | message detail
*checks updator*

Huh. I remembered it being a lot closer in the beginning, with it taking a while for Zidane to take off.

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trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2008 3:48:33 PM | message detail
this is a 50/50 match on the board, Ike's sure to be the overall favourite and it's a Brawl character.

if Ike is behind early, it's not going to be close.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/2/2008 3:48:52 PM | message detail
Arthas is essentially the biggest badass in PC gaming.

-spoilers-

-He goes and kills everyone in a town under his fathers control
-He kills off all the mercenaries his father hired to protect him on his journey to Northrend
-He goes and kills his father in one of the most awesome CGs ever
-He then becomes completly overwhelmed by the power of Frostmourne (the sword he's holding in the picture), and becomes the king of the Undead Legions that are taking over Eastern Kingdoms
-Later on, he OBLITERATES the second most popular character in Warcraft (Illidan) in one shot, in the epic Fight at the end of Frozen Throne between the two
-Then he takes the Frozen Throne, and becomes the Lich King, and the game ends with him suceeding in everything he tried to do, and is one of the only villains to actually defeat the good guys, and is at the top of the world when the game ends.

All Thrall does is be emo about his friend died, and is essentially a non factor after his Orc campaign in the original WC3. Hell, he doesn't even do much in WoW except stand around the Orgimmar throne room.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/2/2008 3:50:22 PM | message detail
Arthas got crushed by the board vote last year. Seriously, he was struggling to stay over 10% for a few minutes. Ike led his match for the first 35 minutes last year.

Pikachu did well with the board vote in the first round, second round, third round, and he was actually beating Dante and Luigi for a few minutes with the board vote there.

So yeah, I'd say Spy gets the board vote.
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 10/2/2008 3:50:30 PM | message detail
trannyscience (#224)
the last one is the worst of the three.

Surely the one who made it has nothing to do with it.
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Lopen | Posted 10/2/2008 3:51:07 PM | message detail
Save posts like that for a "nominate Arthas" thread Albion no one cares about that. It's not going to affect his contest strength and I almost walked into spoilers because of your non bolded tag.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/2/2008 3:51:29 PM | message detail
That being said, I no nothing about Warcraft really, and this is partly a different situation. Does he look like anything approaching that in an actual game?

-spoilers-

At the end of Frozen Throne when he becomes the Lich King. Here is a video of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW02BWFRnkw
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