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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 583

HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 9:32:50 PM | message detail
lol Diddy Kong :(

*Shrugs it off cause at least I made the leaderboard for a day*

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.

post away :)
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:33:02 PM | message detail
PAUNCH!
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:44:30 PM | message detail
Let's go Falcon
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Character Battle 2008: Points 41/56 Today's Match: Alucard > Captain Falcon
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 9:44:58 PM | message detail
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darkx5642358951 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:45:12 PM | message detail
It's all part of the plan...
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sopme day i well beat 1000 games no matter what it takes or games to play i beat them - ertyu. That's the spirit, buddy!
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 9:45:37 PM | message detail
Fitting end to a topic where I had ended up having terrible luck >_>
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hochimnih157 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:46:04 PM | message detail
Time for me to make my first bet of the contest:


I say Pikachu will NOT advance tomorrow. Winner gets loser's sig for a week. Who here challenges my greatness?

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/1/2008 9:46:16 PM | message detail
I love the smell of brackets burning!

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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 9:46:24 PM | message detail
Kratos will be beating the ape. When the power hour is over it's game over for Diddy.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:46:36 PM | message detail
I hope Pikachu doesn't advance tomorrow. That would make my contest.
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 9:46:58 PM | message detail
You're on, Hochi.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 9:47:00 PM | message detail
incase no one saw the topic

here's the list of characters who fail for me every year that I talk big smack about

2002: Ryu(SF)
2003: Sora
2004G: Dance Dance Revolution(<_<)
2004C: Liquid
2005V: Albedo
2005C: Revolver Ocelot
2006C: Zero
2007C: Midna
2008: Diddy Kong

damn failures >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/1/2008 9:47:41 PM | message detail
It's entirely possible for Pikachu not to advance tomorrow.

Most things are possible at this point. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if Spy somehow managed to sneak in tomorrow.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2008 9:48:13 PM | message detail
Let's go Fox > Sora
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:48:55 PM | message detail
Falcon destroyed Crono during the day, but couldn't do anything with fellow Nintendo characters around last year. I'd say Falcon > Kratos > Diddy > Alucard is probably a good bet for the day vote. I'm still worried about Alucard here...he should be able to get a 1500-2000 vote lead by morning, in which case he should be safe, but I have a lot of trouble trusting him. Maybe I've been burned by Crono/Frog/Kefka too much, and if anybody can compare to their day votes...
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hochimnih157 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:49:22 PM | message detail
Then the bet is set: Lopen, you have no idea what you're going up against.
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paraboxx | Posted 10/1/2008 9:50:02 PM | message detail
I'm gonna laugh and laaaaugh when Fox doesn't even break 25% in that match.

(The best part is, when he does, this topic'll be so old by that time no one will remember I posted this anyway!)
Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2008 9:50:03 PM | message detail
Uh, what exactly are you two betting on?
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 9:50:58 PM | message detail
Yellow rat, don't fail me now!
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:51:13 PM | message detail
2002: Pikachu
2003: Yoshi
2004G: Castlevania SotN
2004C: Viewtiful Joe
2005V: Ridley
2005C: Tidus
2006C: Aeris
2007C: Midna
2008: Lucario

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Character Battle 2008: Points 41/56 Today's Match: Alucard > Captain Falcon
red sox 777 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:57:16 PM | message detail
Hmm....Alucard isn't pulling away all that quickly. Hopefully he can really accelerate once this power hour is over.....I'll feel safe if he can hit 1500 by morning.
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Bracket: Alucard > Captain Falcon --- Vote: Captain Falcon
hochimnih157 | Posted 10/1/2008 10:01:14 PM | message detail
Uh, what? 1 hour in (NPH) and he's already up by about 300. He'll be ahead by at least 2500 by the time the day hits
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 10:03:13 PM | message detail
Yeah, Alucard is safe here. Falcon is putting on a hero's performance, but if a Nintendo character is this far back at the end of the Power Hour, they won't win.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/1/2008 10:05:52 PM | message detail
Now that's what I like to see, Alucard. And with that, I'm off to bed.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2008 10:06:44 PM | message detail
Falcon just fell like a rock, right when the power hour ends. Go figure.
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transience | Posted 10/1/2008 10:07:58 PM | message detail
Alucard's fine. he'll be at 2000 by morning, to say nothing of the during-school vote.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/1/2008 10:17:34 PM | message detail
Wow

Diddy is really pathetic... what the hell?
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transience | Posted 10/1/2008 10:18:35 PM | message detail
..he might be there by 3am jeeze
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gandalf89 | Posted 10/1/2008 10:19:37 PM | message detail
Anyone else besides me have Captain Falcon going all the way?
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 10:25:23 PM | message detail
Nintendo Conference going on.

What happens if they randomly show a trailer for Super Smash Bros 4 and Kratos Aurion is in it?
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creativename | Posted 10/1/2008 10:32:55 PM | message detail
IMO, the people hyping up Sandbag to do anything big are borderline nuts.

Note: I'm one of the people who was hyping up L-Block last year (though not winning the damn thing, of course).
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transience | Posted 10/1/2008 10:34:34 PM | message detail
I'm curious to hear why you think that
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creativename | Posted 10/1/2008 10:36:17 PM | message detail
It's weird, this is actually the strength I would've expected for Falcon before his first appearance, based on F-Zero and Smash. But he flopped relative to my expectations, and *now* he's meeting them? Very strange.

Diddy bombing is not surprising to me, because Donkey Kong ain't all that, and I figured Diddy wouldn't be near him. But Falcon's performance is a surprise, since he's a contest vet, and he's never done squat before.

But I guess hochi's theory of double SFF/LFF makes a lot of sense.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 10:36:56 PM | message detail
Sandbag has little time to build a fanbase, it won't have as large an appeal since it's more oriented to Smash fans, Sonic, Magus, and Auron are different beasts from what 2007 L-Block and the Cube had to face in the first two rounds...

Sandbag has it rough. I have L-Block winning and Cube advancing two matches, and I still have Sandbag out Round 1. I have no confidence in him.
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transience | Posted 10/1/2008 10:38:29 PM | message detail
Magus would probably lose to Tidus or DK at this point.
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creativename | Posted 10/1/2008 10:40:17 PM | message detail
I'm curious to hear why you think that

Sandbag is no L-Block, or even remotely close. L-Block is universally known.

Sandbag's big strength is that he's in one of the strongest series on the site, and despite being only in mini-games he's actually probably stronger than some playable characters from that series.

However I don't think he's going to have real strength. Plus there's a slim chance he could get SFFed by Sonic.

The main reason to believe in Sandbag IMO is that his competition is Magus...and we all know about Magus and his...well...Magus-ish-ness.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/1/2008 10:42:21 PM | message detail
Sandbag has little time to build a fanbase, it won't have as large an appeal since it's more oriented to Smash fans, Sonic, Magus, and Auron are different beasts from what 2007 L-Block and the Cube had to face in the first two rounds...

Sandbag has it rough. I have L-Block winning and Cube advancing two matches, and I still have Sandbag out Round 1. I have no confidence in him.


I have to agree. Sandbag probably is unlikely to be making much noise. Down he goes in Round 1.
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creativename | Posted 10/1/2008 10:42:42 PM | message detail
Anyone who thinks Sandbag can get past Auron is just insane.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 10:43:19 PM | message detail
Not Auron.

Sonic.
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hellfire104 | Posted 10/1/2008 10:44:23 PM | message detail
It hink that due to Alucards weak performance here, it is now known that Pikachu > alucard will happen in round 2
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Contest Point Total: 42 Rank: 95%tile, Tied for 2290
This Pick: Alucard > Captain Falcon
creativename | Posted 10/1/2008 10:44:36 PM | message detail
WCC on the other hand I think has a legit chance to win his match.

Like I've posted before, Tidus/DK trying to out-choke each other for 2nd place just seems so poetic. And WCC should be much stronger than GlaDOS, I would think.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 10:57:07 PM | message detail
Nothing on Kratos cutting Diddy the last three updates?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 10:58:14 PM | message detail
Diddy is dead to me. Even deader than before, and man did I want him dead before.
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transience | Posted 10/1/2008 10:59:03 PM | message detail
Diddy Kong: more popular than Donkey Kong
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 10:59:15 PM | message detail
Kratos Aurion has this match tbqh.
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 10:59:38 PM | message detail
(Over Diddy, I mean, obviously)
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greatone10 | Posted 10/1/2008 11:00:55 PM | message detail
What on earth got into Captain Falcon? I mean, I don't even necessarily mind Diddy bombing because it actually sorta confirms a suspicion I have, but Falcon sure got strong quick.

However, there is a trend I have noticed. Wario, Lucario, Diddy have fallen flat. I don't know if Ike is going to be that great of a choice for tomorrows match
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/1/2008 11:02:29 PM | message detail
Kratos Aurion may be the strongest of the Tales characters to have gotten in a contest, but he didn't even bother showing up this time. Bah! (Though that was to be expected of him...) I want to see some Tales of Vesperia characters next contest.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2008 11:03:12 PM | message detail
For what it's worth, Ike is far more favored in SSBB than Wario/Lucario/Diddy...and one could argue FE is bigger than WarioWare or DKC on GameFAQs, too. Still, CF is no Pikachu.
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transience | Posted 10/1/2008 11:03:14 PM | message detail
...why
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