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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 582
| TestIcicles | Posted 10/1/2008 6:18:34 PM | message detail |
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oh and how could i forget. DIDDY KONG RACING. honestly, that puts him on par with the last time Falco had a game people cared about him in, other than SSB. And now that Diddy's right there alongside him, I don't think you can really make a case against Diddy. For the record I'd also take Diddy > Falco 1 on 1. --- mmm test icicles |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:18:39 PM | message detail |
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besides, we have a measuring stick here -- Donkey Kong. can't see Diddy
being stronger than Donkey just based on exposure. he's got everything
Diddy does and then some. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 6:18:57 PM | message detail |
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He never had a chance - not when his last exposure was 2.5 years before the first contest. This is a non factor. Q-bert hadn't had a game in like what, 15 years and got into that contest. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| TestIcicles | Posted 10/1/2008 6:19:51 PM | message detail |
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No, I only brought up DK64 in relation to SF:A (which I know you didn't
mention). My point was he's only one extra generation away from Falco
in having a major release. I now take that back however with Diddy Kong
Racing, which has also released on the DS. --- mmm test icicles |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 6:20:01 PM | message detail |
| my bad |
| therealmnm | Posted 10/1/2008 6:23:26 PM | message detail |
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was waitin' for this. Falco's different though, he's not completely
dead like Diddy is. like you said, he was in Melee, and he's great in
both games. Diddy is not as popular in Brawl and from a SNES series
that's been dead ten years. What does that have to do with nominations though? If all this is true, then why didn't Falco get nominated until now? Again, I put little stock into nominations determining strength. Especially seeing how much of an influence the board has on nominations, and how many nominations are spent trying to get lesser characters an appearance in the contest. Most people aren't going to nominate Nintendo character #16 when you already only get 10 nominations. Sure the Warios and Olimars might make an appearance or two, but because you didn't get in doesn't mean you won't have much strength should you get in the contest. Look at Sub-Zero. He's the strongest character of his series and look how long it took him to get in. And what about Final Fantasy VII characters number 7 and 8? Sure they might not be as strong as Cloud and Sephiroth, but does it mean they are weak? Doubt it. What about Charizard? I'm fairly certain he could have a bit of strength, and he hasn't managed to get in yet. You can argue about Diddy not being strong, but I don't buy nominations having anything to do with it. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:24:49 PM | message detail |
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Diddy Kong Racing was the best racing game ever guys. Just sayin. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 6:26:04 PM | message detail |
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HeroicTronBonne (#157) I'm not even a Nintendo fan, and I agree with this. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 6:26:07 PM | message detail |
| Diddy Kong Racing and Star Wars: Episode I Racer are my two favorite racing games. |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:27:37 PM | message detail |
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Sub-Zero's from an ensemble cast though. so is character #7 and 8 from
FF7. (I wouldn't use FF7 here, it's in a whole other galaxy from DKC)
same with Pokemon obviously. Diddy's arguably the star of DKC, but he's never made it when we've gotten other things in. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:28:01 PM | message detail |
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and uhhh F-ZERO GX --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| therealmnm | Posted 10/1/2008 6:29:17 PM | message detail |
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transience, are you bored or something? --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:30:06 PM | message detail |
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I'm posting on GameFAQs. of course I'm bored! --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:30:29 PM | message detail |
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F-Zero GX was tight and all, but uhh...DKR dog. You can't top this. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:31:08 PM | message detail |
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get these Diddy Kong fanboys out of here --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 6:32:01 PM | message detail |
| Man, L-Block shot down Ryu's comeback attempt. No mercy, I swear. |
| TestIcicles | Posted 10/1/2008 6:32:11 PM | message detail |
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besides, we have a measuring stick here -- Donkey Kong. can't see
Diddy being stronger than Donkey just based on exposure. he's got
everything Diddy does and then some. You can say the same about Falco though. Granted this argument didn't stem from Falco v. Diddy, but people are now discrediting Diddy, while talking about how much Falco impressed and how strong he looks (which I think is being vastly overrated). There's no way Falco is stronger than Fox, the actual star of his series, and every game the two share together. I don't know about you guys, but there's no way I think Fox is stronger than DK. I'm not talking 1v1 because I don't want to deal with which way the SFF would go, I'm talking raw indirect strengths. Does anyone really think Fox is stronger than DK? Now Diddy differs from Falco suffering from constantly being beneath Fox in a ton of ways. 1) He stars in 2 of the 3 DKC games, while DK himself only stars in 1. 2) He stars in the most popular DKC game (DKC2) 3) He has his own game specifically dedicated to him (DKR), which was not so long ago re-released on the DS. Instead of just being the lesser DK, he actually distinguishes himself from the big ape. I'm not expecting him to be stronger than DK, but if he were, I would not be all that surprised to be honest. Then there's the boatload of spinoff type games he appears in that Falco doesn't have: Mario Golf, Double Dash, Donkey Konga, Mario Tennis, Mario Baseball, Mario Hoops, DK - King of Swing, MK Wii, Mario Strikers... and various sequels to those aforementioned games. ....why the hell didn't I take diddy. --- mmm test icicles |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:32:13 PM | message detail |
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Nope, I'm not goin anywhere! *Does some cartwheels and throws some bananas around* --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:33:16 PM | message detail |
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Ok, I'm calling it now, no matter what happens, Diddy Kong will somehow
be higher in the x-stats than Donkey Kong. That's all I have to say on
that matter. There's no way he's weaker. Maybe in a direct 1 on 1
matchup, but otherwise, no. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:34:20 PM | message detail |
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Fox vs. DK is an age-old argument and it's tough to say anything.
lookin' forward to seeing Fox next week. I think I'd take Fox in a
direct match. did you see what Fox did against the Nintendo pack last year? do you think DK could have done that? I don't. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| Kegger9 | Posted 10/1/2008 6:35:48 PM | message detail |
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you guys are gonna look really silly when Diddy finishes below Captain Falcon --- what ever i always new bruce wayne was batman anyway - ertyu |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 6:36:04 PM | message detail |
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To be fair, tranny, DK beat Marth about 30%-20%. And I'd take Marth
over any of those jokers Fox stomped into the dirt. Just sayin. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/1/2008 6:36:54 PM | message detail |
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Just got home. Not too surprised the block came back, but the
vote-stuffing in it's update chart is so horrendously obvious it's not
even funny. Starcraft would laugh at this. --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore ~*ST*~ |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:37:28 PM | message detail |
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I've got no problem with anyone that takes DK over Fox. I'm just sayin'
that I wouldn't take him to get to 42% or whatever he did. ...since when is DK beating Marth 60/40 or whatever an accomplishment? if you can't beat down Marth, I'd think Fox would be a tall order. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| TestIcicles | Posted 10/1/2008 6:37:47 PM | message detail |
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Hell yes... and that's without really thinking. We're talking about
Wario and Meta-Knight here.... and this is pre-brawl. (Granted
hypetrain was a rollin') I really don't think 19% to to MK's and
Wario's 13% and 10% respectively is all that impressive. I wouldn't put
it past DK to do significantly (read: 2-3%) better there. --- mmm test icicles |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2008 6:38:01 PM | message detail |
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DKR was awesome but srsly who played as diddy? (all about the pipsy yup yup) --- Moltar Status: augh Alucard/Meta Knight/Ryu/The Dog - Bracket: Ryu > L-Block - Vote: Meta Knight (42/52) |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:38:10 PM | message detail |
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you guys are gonna look really silly when Diddy finishes below Captain Falcon I'm not ruling the possibility out, but outta all the ridiculous characters I support each year, Diddy Kong can't be one of them...can he? --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2008 6:38:57 PM | message detail |
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PartOfYourWorld (#159) haha oh wow, Episode I Racer was great. very cheap at times but great --- Moltar Status: augh Alucard/Meta Knight/Ryu/The Dog - Bracket: Ryu > L-Block - Vote: Meta Knight (42/52) |
| therealmnm | Posted 10/1/2008 6:40:12 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Fox over Donkey Kong. Sure, Donkey Kong has tons of reasons to be more popular than Fox as far as games
go, I think Fox's general design and appeal draw people more to him. Of
course he's no Samus, but I'd give him the appeal edge over Donkey
Kong. Plus I don't think any Donkey Kong game has the popularity of
Star Fox 64. Fox would probably be damn popular if Nintendo gave him
the same attention that they give the main Nintendo crew. The way
Nintendo treats the Star Fox and Metroid series is a damn shame. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 6:40:34 PM | message detail |
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What I'm saying is that if DK can beat Marth by 10% with them only
getting half of the vote, that means he could probably beat Marth by
15% of the vote if they were getting say... 75% of the vote combined.
And Marth is a lot taller order than Wario, so yeah... DK beating Wario
by around 20% isn't something I would doubt too much. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Kegger9 | Posted 10/1/2008 6:43:58 PM | message detail |
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I'm not ruling the possibility out, but outta all the ridiculous
characters I support each year, Diddy Kong can't be one of them...can
he? No he'll be fine, I just wanted to feel better about picking Alucard > Falcon in my bracket :( --- what ever i always new bruce wayne was batman anyway - ertyu |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/1/2008 6:44:05 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Fox over DK without hesitation....I actually think he's close
to Kirby in strength. We need to see Fox face someone outside of
Nintendo.....he'll get his chance to prove himself in a few days. As
for the discussion on Melee and Brawl characters, I think Melee is
still stronger on this site (but might not win a direct match). But
even if that isn't true, Melee + Brawl is better than Brawl alone. And
Marth and Falco are both top tier characters in Melee, which should
count for something. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 46/52 --- T-18 (96 way) Bracket: Ryu > L-Block --- Vote: Meta-Knight |
| BDawg | Posted 10/1/2008 6:47:09 PM | message detail |
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L-block is such a jerk, flaunting that puny lead tonight and generally
continuing to run amuck. Well, put him in round 2, but if it does that
static percentage crap again (and I guess there's no reason it
wouldn't) it'll just be old joke angst all over again. --- Should I start running now? |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2008 6:47:39 PM | message detail |
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Quick thoughts on Diddy before I do my writeup later (for those who don't actually read my writeups) - I would consider him more popular than DK easily, and him kicking ass and taking names in Brawl certainly doesn't hurt - I would take him EASILY over Captain Falcon 1v1, and would expect him to double all the Fails characters combined - I would consider Diddy/Alucard 1v1 to be a close match I can't see Diddy not advancing here, and potentially going to round 3 as well. |
| Kegger9 | Posted 10/1/2008 6:49:06 PM | message detail |
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Thank you for confirming my Alucard > Falcon pick, BT --- what ever i always new bruce wayne was batman anyway - ertyu |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2008 6:49:15 PM | message detail |
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Scratch that, forgot about the rat darn you pikachu |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 6:51:33 PM | message detail |
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I would consider him more popular than DK easily DKC2/Diddy Kong Racing fanboy propaganda alert. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2008 6:53:13 PM | message detail |
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Why do you say that? The only other things I've said 100% this year
were KOS-MOS coming nowhere near Frog, and Meta Knight not advancing
today. I think my track record is pretty good on things I'm positive
about. Falcon is fodder line at best. 90% of his strength comes from Smash. Diddy on the other hand has a whole slew ofawesome games to draw from as well as Smash. I'd take Diddy over Falcon pre-Brawl, and I'd take Diddy to double up Falcon 1 on 1 now. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2008 6:54:31 PM | message detail |
| Exactly Lopen. DKC2 was arguably the best platformer of all time, and unarguably the best Donkey Kong game, and Diddy Kong Racing was better and sold more than any individual F-Zero. |
| Random_Guy_42 | Posted 10/1/2008 6:56:26 PM | message detail |
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Master Moltar (#176) This is 100% correct. --- Vote for Jinjo in the 2k8 Character Battle |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/1/2008 6:57:43 PM | message detail |
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and Diddy Kong Racing was better and sold more than any individual F-Zero. Question, How much did DKR sell? --- Warning, there is a bear right behind you. Ride Him. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/1/2008 6:58:25 PM | message detail |
| The thing with DK is nobody actually likes him
which is why he sucks so much in these contests. Diddy seems to
actually have some real fans. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2008 6:59:19 PM | message detail |
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The turtle dude was the best, though his name escapes me. And going back a little while ago and playing it again, I never realized Conker was in it. That blew my mind. |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:59:40 PM | message detail |
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the 10 or so popular games on the 64 sold really well because there wasn't much else. same thing with the Gamecube. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| Xuxon | Posted 10/1/2008 7:00:20 PM | message detail |
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hey it's tip tup! stupid ryu getting my hopes up just before 8pm and then doing nothing. it'll be a while til i can make the leaderboard now, if at all... --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2008 7:02:00 PM | message detail |
| But DKR was competing with Mario Kart 64 and Episode 1 Racer, 2 of the best racing games ever made. And tell me with a straight face that DKC2 didn't sell good. |
| greatone10 | Posted 10/1/2008 7:02:25 PM | message detail |
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Master Moltar (#176) Hovercraft. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 7:02:49 PM | message detail |
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Diddy Kong fans are what I like to call the vocal minority. See: Lloyd Irving vs Zelos Wilder. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| greatone10 | Posted 10/1/2008 7:04:17 PM | message detail |
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Diddy doesn't show up halfway through any of his games except DKC3, which doesn't count. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/1/2008 7:08:49 PM | message detail |
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Dammit Ryu, getting my hopes up and then not delivering. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
