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Malakuko | Posted 10/1/2008 4:50:40 PM | message detail

also Kratos is the only one in that pic who doesn't look like complete ****
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2008 4:52:17 PM | message detail

Hmm... is anyone noticing that Ryu's trying to make a comeback or has he been trying to do that and getting stifled all day?
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2008 4:53:04 PM | message detail

hey masa stop sounding like such a DIDDY MAIN
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 4:55:24 PM | message detail

Nah, this is only the second time Ryu's started to make cuts after L started making steady gains.

I said Ryu would come back at 8pm ET look like he might try to do just that.
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 10/1/2008 4:59:36 PM | message detail

Cue the Ryu comeback
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Kegger9 | Posted 10/1/2008 5:05:09 PM | message detail

Cue the Ryu comeback

youre about 15 minutes too late

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trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 5:14:55 PM | message detail

gogo Ryu, you're doing something now

(but if there's one character that a comeback's not gonna work on, it's the Block)
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/1/2008 5:17:02 PM | message detail

Uh, Wario sucked and two of his opponents were sub-Guybrush fodder(well, not adjusting Cecil) and the other was getting votes through apathy alone. If Diddy was Wario level in strength, he'd flop here.

Meta-Knight isn't exactly doing very well here, in fact he did better with Peach! As far as Brawl exclusives go, we're three for three with the disappointments, even if Lucario was the only EPIC fail.
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 5:17:08 PM | message detail

Bonus round. Break the blocks.

Fight!
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Link The Hylian | Posted 10/1/2008 5:17:57 PM | message detail

"Diddy is gonna kick some ass tomorrow. Just you guys wait and see. He's not gonna pull a Midna or anything."

If this site had decent taste he would do well. But it doesn't and hes coming in last tomorrow.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/1/2008 5:17:57 PM | message detail

1st Comeback
Votes needed (5m): 6.58

Based on last half hour:
Votes received: 7.00
Lead change at: 23:46

He's got the pace, but not by a whole lot. And I'd have trouble betting against L in a late close match.
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Malakuko | Posted 10/1/2008 5:18:36 PM | message detail

I think the trend so far has been that if the character was in Melee, Brawl gave them a considerable boost, but if they are a Brawl newcomer, they're pretty much just trong enough to make the contest and then not do much else.

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Malakuko | Posted 10/1/2008 5:18:49 PM | message detail

trong trong trong
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Xuxon | Posted 10/1/2008 5:25:45 PM | message detail

eh? what melee characters looked boosted? bowser?
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 5:28:05 PM | message detail

Meta-Knight would've torn things up in a different bracket position.

Right now he's got 41.7% on Ryu. People who picked Meta-Knight were not wrong in overestimating Meta-Knight but underestimating Block strength carryover/overestimating SFF with Dog.
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chaosarcher07 | Posted 10/1/2008 5:28:18 PM | message detail

Marth and Falco?

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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 5:29:03 PM | message detail

I think the trend so far has been that if the character was in Melee, Brawl gave them a considerable boost, but if they are a Brawl newcomer, they're pretty much just trong enough to make the contest and then not do much else.

If this is true, then Arthas has a bye to advance on Friday.
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Panthera | Posted 10/1/2008 5:29:15 PM | message detail

Diddy would be kicking ass if this were the late 90s, but given that a hefty portion of the voters probably only know him from Brawl and haven't ever played the old SNES DK games, his strength is going to be pretty much just "funny in SSE and cool to use", with a rather limited amount of his support coming from the days of yore. I doubt he'll be awful, but I'm not 100% on him making it into second (even though he's in my bracket. And if anything, I fear Falcon the most, since both are SSB based so much, and Falcon has his endless meme power and genuine popularity)
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/1/2008 5:29:53 PM | message detail

Marth and Falco seemed to be boosted.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 5:30:41 PM | message detail

I am honestly surprised Falcon isn't stronger in these contests. He's a Brawl character AND a popular meme with his falcon punch and show me your moves stuff. I don't get how he's one of the weakest Brawl characters here.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/1/2008 5:31:28 PM | message detail

falco hasn't been in the contest before O_O

and marth didn't look any different to me really. maybe some of you have another opinion though.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/1/2008 5:32:18 PM | message detail

True with Falco,

Its just he massively surprised on how well he did agianst Vincent.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 5:32:41 PM | message detail

Marth and Falco seemed to be boosted.

We've never seen Falco before, and Marth didn't seem all that boosted to me. He won a junk fourpack, and he didn't even win it convincingly.

deadeyedllv | Posted 10/1/2008 5:32:49 PM | message detail

So much for the Ryu comeback. It's over people.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 5:33:43 PM | message detail

Yeah, Ryu ain't coming back. Its not a big deal though, since both advance anyway.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/1/2008 5:34:11 PM | message detail

Niko was untested, Duke was severely underated,

And yet everyone jumped on the Kefka Train, agian
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Xuxon | Posted 10/1/2008 5:34:48 PM | message detail

Its just he massively surprised on how well he did agianst Vincent.

if anything falco got maybe a point or 2 over the oracle average, nothing huge.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/1/2008 5:38:21 PM | message detail

as for ryu, he's looking like jill against peach only starting to stall a lot earlier. i'd say l-block is the favorite but i wouldn't count out ryu yet.
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chaosarcher07 | Posted 10/1/2008 5:39:43 PM | message detail

This coming match reminded me too much of Arthas/Diablo/KOS-MOS to consider taking Diddy or Falcon here. I'm kind of second guessing it now though.

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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 5:45:30 PM | message detail

Ryu is stalling L... I guess if he does start a push pretty soon, he MAY have a chance.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 5:49:12 PM | message detail

swirIdude | Posted 10/1/2008 5:50:31 PM | message detail

Augh L-Block took the lead.

it doesn't want to keep my perfect match streak going ;_;
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/1/2008 5:56:58 PM | message detail

Diddy was never Nintendo's brightest star. He might be a Wario. Or he could be a Mewtwo.

What I'm saying is, vote Kratos. Tales deserves a non-Lloyd win.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:02:03 PM | message detail

hey masa stop sounding like such a DIDDY MAIN

I CAN'T HELP IT DUDE
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:03:04 PM | message detail

If this is true, then Arthas has a bye to advance on Friday.

Then it's probably not true. Diddy and Ike will both soon prove this.
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therealmnm | Posted 10/1/2008 6:04:47 PM | message detail

I think the main argument against Diddy is why didn't he make a contest before if he's popular? the only exception that pops to mind is Mewtwo, which is a different case. I don't usually use nomination strength to mean much, but I think here it might be telling that he couldn't make it until he got Brawl.

Falco.

What's worse? Falco had Melee and Brawl if you want to take that route.

With so many board rallies to get more obscure and/or joke characters in recently, I hardly look at nominations to determine a characters strength. I thought Tifa and Vincent debunked those thoughts.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:05:31 PM | message detail

I think the main argument against Diddy is why didn't he make a contest before if he's popular? the only exception that pops to mind is Mewtwo, which is a different case. I don't usually use nomination strength to mean much, but I think here it might be telling that he couldn't make it until he got Brawl.

Tran brings up the only really solid argument that can combat my ludicrous Diddy faith.
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Kegger9 | Posted 10/1/2008 6:06:02 PM | message detail

Alucard > Captain Falcon

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:06:06 PM | message detail

With so many board rallies to get more obscure and/or joke characters in recently, I hardly look at nominations to determine a characters strength. I thought Tifa and Vincent debunked those thoughts.

And MNM immediately slaps it down.
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Kegger9 | Posted 10/1/2008 6:08:26 PM | message detail

Well CJayC didn't exactly let just anyone in >_> He tried to limit the number of FF7 characters that got in every year. He also didn't let in joke noms.

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Kegger9 | Posted 10/1/2008 6:09:28 PM | message detail

At least not until the contest changed format, but Tifa and Vincent got in before then

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TestIcicles | Posted 10/1/2008 6:10:46 PM | message detail

Aeris is pretty damn strong (at least in relation to the general field), yet we see time and time again she doesn't have nomination support, took a while for Tifa and Vincent to show up as well. Then as mentioned Mewtwo, Falco. There's also Sub-Zero... probably others I'm forgetting as well. Point is, nomination power really doesn't mean anything about your strength. Diddy's problem is he probably isn't many people's, if anyone's favorite character, and he's been out of the limelight for some time now. We all know nominations are heavily influenced by "What's Hot Now?" moreso than anything else. Or at least we all should.

Diddy is finally happenin' now, and there's 128 characters instead of the usual 64. It makes sense that it took until now to get him in, and I don't think it speaks a thing about his strength.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 6:11:34 PM | message detail

They both got in 2005, which was also the year the Tournament of Champions, IE the concept of exempting past champions from the main bracket allowing a few extra entries, came into place.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 6:11:57 PM | message detail

If nomination strength meant much, Guybrush and Cats would be top tier.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/1/2008 6:13:01 PM | message detail

Ryu's within 350 votes!
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/1/2008 6:13:59 PM | message detail

is that supposed to be a joke
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trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:14:40 PM | message detail

Falco.

What's worse? Falco had Melee and Brawl if you want to take that route.

was waitin' for this. Falco's different though, he's not completely dead like Diddy is. like you said, he was in Melee, and he's great in both games. Diddy is not as popular in Brawl and from a SNES series that's been dead ten years.

I think Diddy will be all right - around Falco's level - but it concerns me that Diddy's only able to make it off of Brawl when he's in all these popular SNES games. I mean, friggin' Olimar made it once. Falcon made it. Wario made it. yet, we never saw Diddy.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/1/2008 6:16:47 PM | message detail

when's the last Falco's series was alive outside SSB? The N64. All he's had since then is Star Fox Assault... not exactly the most popular game. If you want to count it, then you've got to count DK64, and the Mario Spinoff game's Diddy's been in as well.

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trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 6:17:15 PM | message detail

is DK64 even popular? I always heard it was bad.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 6:17:32 PM | message detail

Diddy's last worth-a-damn game before Brawl (DK64) was released in late 1999, though. He never had a chance - not when his last exposure was 2.5 years before the first contest.

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