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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 582

XxSoulxX | Posted 10/1/2008 9:25:28 PM | message detail
The only character on that list that was supposed to get a good Brawl boost was MK, and...he flopped? He performed far better than he did last year, just because he couldn't beat L-Block (which even Ryu failed to do) doesn't mean flop.

People expected him to contend. He was nowhere in sight.

And all those characters were supposed to get Brawl boosts.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:25:32 PM | message detail
I still don't understand this. Captain bombed like fodder twice in a row. You don't even see him in his own games. How is he beating Diddy Kong so badly? How can Diddy be so weak compared to DK?

How are Kratos and Alucard doing so badly despite the SFF?


Getting 25% on 2k6 Crono is not as bad as you are making it and Fox killed him last year.

IMO Diddy was like Donkey Kong's Tails. Just another character that board 8 overrates. Remember back in 2003 people were calling Diddy to be fodder and nothing has changed since then except for Brawl and Falcon is more of a favourite character.

Alucard will be a monster at night and Kratos is from lol Tales of series
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Character Battle 2008: Points 41/56 Today's Match: Alucard > Captain Falcon
hochimnih157 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:25:34 PM | message detail
That's it. Everyone listen up since you're all lost. Everything is obvious but you all are too bone-headed to comprehend simple stuff.


Nobody likes Diddy Kong. Much like Donkey Kong. DK does bad enough as it is so why would a smaller, wussier, fruitier version of DK be worth anything?

Captain Falcon is cool but not as cool as Fox. That's why he did bad last year. Falcon was hit by Double-SFF AND LFF.

Kratos Aurion is fodder obviously. Don't know why he was considered.


I hope this clears up this pathetically easy match.


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__hiei__ | Posted 10/1/2008 9:26:54 PM | message detail
we already know that matches with L block/mudkip/etc get stuffed as hell.

nothing to do about it.we can just accept that as part of their strength.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 9:27:11 PM | message detail
Man how can anyone be so stupid as to have L-Block losing in Round 2. No-brainer.
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:27:17 PM | message detail
People expected him to contend. He was nowhere in sight.

I'm pretty sure Ryu beating MK easily was a given. L just decided to beast them both.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/1/2008 9:27:24 PM | message detail
People expected him to contend. He was nowhere in sight.

Contend with a crippled L-Block. Who obviously was not crippled.


And all those characters were supposed to get Brawl boosts.

You people need to learn the difference between being in Brawl and being liked in Brawl. Lucario? Not used by casuals. Wario? Not used by casuals. Diddy? Nope.

MK? Yes. Ike? Yes. Only a small group of characters should get decent Brawl boosts.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/1/2008 9:27:38 PM | message detail
Falcon was hit by Double-SFF AND LFF.

You think Wario is considered "cool"?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 9:28:14 PM | message detail
Wario is a man's man.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/1/2008 9:28:18 PM | message detail
People expected him to contend. He was nowhere in sight.

He was supposed to contend because L was supposed to start weak. If beating Ryu is your idea of weak then I don't know what to say. I doubt anybody expected Meta Knight to boost to Ryu's level.
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hochimnih157 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:29:10 PM | message detail
Wario is NOT cool and is WEAKER than Falcon but Wario was only hit by SFF while Captain Falcon was hit by DOUBLE-SFF AND LFF. That is the ONLY reason Wario beat Falcon.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/1/2008 9:30:21 PM | message detail
So hochi how bout that l-block going out in the second round pick, still confident?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/1/2008 9:30:33 PM | message detail
so Fox caused the double SFF and LFF on his own?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:30:58 PM | message detail
Aurion stall!
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/1/2008 9:31:00 PM | message detail
Hey Diddy.... YOU SUCK
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2008 9:31:08 PM | message detail
Kratos stalled Diddy there. He should have a cut soon.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:31:22 PM | message detail
Everyone looked dumb in Division 1, and everyone looked smart in Division 2. I looked dumb in Division 3, so I guess Division 4 is where I look smart!

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:31:23 PM | message detail
STALL

Let's do this Kratos.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 41/56 Today's Match: Alucard > Captain Falcon
trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2008 9:31:55 PM | message detail
man. at least we were right about Diddy and Kratos being a debated match.

congrats to char.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/1/2008 9:32:04 PM | message detail
I think Kratos is going to get a major spike next update. n_n

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hochimnih157 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:32:10 PM | message detail
I admit, I'm surprised that L-Block was actually able to come back and beat Ryu. The match was going according to plan until that happened. Still, I am a man of my convictions and I will stick by my pick. I foresaw L-Block losing next round and it will happen. There are variables that could make it happen.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2008 9:32:33 PM | message detail
Another important thing this match brings up: there's practically no more reasoning to consider the DKC series as respectable in strength. If it's debatable whether DK or Diddy is the star of the DKC series, let's look at them; DK was close to doubled by Kirby last year and Diddy's being smoked by CF, and it's worth a thought that neither Kirby nor especially F-Zero are very respectable in series strength here. To be fair, Kirby/CF should have the SSB-advantage on DK/Diddy...but looking at DKC's stars, seeing it be snubbed in the Series Contest, and this poll...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2799

...none of this does the DKC series any favors.
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hochimnih157 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:33:53 PM | message detail
so Fox caused the double SFF and LFF on his own?


No god damnit. Fox caused double SFF. Wario and Banjo caused LFF.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2008 9:34:30 PM | message detail
Double SFF and LFF.... I'm not even going to start to tell you what's wrong with your wording. The point is, nothing, NOTHING pointed to Falcon being strong enough to beat Diddy, let alone tag along with Alucard while there's other Nintendo in the poll.
_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 9:34:42 PM | message detail
Hochi, so do you still think Pikachu won't advance tomorrow with the newcomers sucking, and the classic Smash characters doing well?
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:35:36 PM | message detail
KRATOS CUT

HAHAHA
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/1/2008 9:35:48 PM | message detail
Falcon cut, Kratos cut

let's do this

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:35:58 PM | message detail
Falcon and Kratos cut!
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Character Battle 2008: Points 41/56 Today's Match: Alucard > Captain Falcon
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:35:58 PM | message detail
FALCON....CUT!
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 9:36:54 PM | message detail
Kratos > Diddy confirmed suck it down Kong fanboys.

I'll take this victory at least I was right about Diddy sucking. Who the hell knew Captain Falcon would blindside us like this.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2008 9:37:00 PM | message detail
Falcon and Kratos cut, eh?

Power hour isn't over yet and Diddy's slowing down....
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:37:01 PM | message detail
Fox has been seriously underrated for a long time. He scored only 1% less on Link than Yoshi did, he doubled Pikachu (2003, and with SFF, but it's still something that Dante, Leon, and Amaterasu together couldn't do), and he broke 45% on Wario, Falcon, and Banjo.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 9:37:27 PM | message detail
Diddy sucking isn't gonna hurt me as bad as Niko sucking, ironically.
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paraboxx | Posted 10/1/2008 9:37:42 PM | message detail
The point is, nothing, NOTHING pointed to Falcon being strong enough to beat Diddy

Nothing could've pointed to Falcon being strong enough to beat Diddy, because Diddy's never been here before.

At least say Donkey Kong. (And even then, you'd have to be arguing for Donkey Kong to win a close match...)
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 9:38:16 PM | message detail
This is awesome. I want Falcon to get as close as possible without actually winning.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2008 9:38:46 PM | message detail
If Falcon's close, he probably gets rallied for the win, considering who he is.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:39:15 PM | message detail

red sox 777 (#482)
Fox has been seriously underrated for a long time. He scored only 1% less on Link than Yoshi did, he doubled Pikachu (2003, and with SFF, but it's still something that Dante, Leon, and Amaterasu together couldn't do), and he broke 45% on Wario, Falcon, and Banjo.


Come on Fox > Sora!
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:39:52 PM | message detail
Diddy has never been tested why are people acting like this is such a huge surprised, the majority of the board was wrong, it's not like this is the first time.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 41/56 Today's Match: Alucard > Captain Falcon
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:41:43 PM | message detail
Falcon VS Duke, who you got?

I predict both will get 100% of the votes because everyone will vote twice because of the sheer manliness.
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2008 9:41:47 PM | message detail
Captain Falcon and Kratos Aurion have both been tested though.

Nothing pointed to Captain Falcon wrecking him like this. Things pointed to Kratos winning between those two.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2008 9:42:19 PM | message detail
So, how is the day vote looking to go?

Falcon > Kratos > Diddy > Alucard or is Kratos and Diddy swapped?
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:42:25 PM | message detail
And to think you people still want 1v1's.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/1/2008 9:42:32 PM | message detail
Captain Falcon and Kratos Aurion have both been tested though.

Nothing pointed to Captain Falcon wrecking him like this.


Exactly. What's happening...?
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hochimnih157 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:42:59 PM | message detail
Hochi, so do you still think Pikachu won't advance tomorrow with the newcomers sucking, and the classic Smash characters doing well?


Yes. Pikachu only got far last year by being the only Nintendo character and everyone else LFFing each other (Dante/Leon and Tidus/Vivi and Tidus/Serge).

Pikachu will not have that luxury anymore. Ike will be one of the few beneficiaries of Brawl and Arthas already proved he's around Diablos in strength.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2008 9:43:20 PM | message detail
Maybe he's really is becoming the next Vyse.

At least he gets ToS2 soon.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 9:43:35 PM | message detail
Pikachu still > Ike
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/1/2008 9:43:50 PM | message detail
Kratos isn't in ToS2.

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paraboxx | Posted 10/1/2008 9:43:58 PM | message detail
Kratos Aurion's last match was against Midna, Scorpion and Agent 47.

He got 21%.

Scorpion got 36.
red sox 777 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:44:15 PM | message detail
Well, Kratos did have a reason to underperform- he's from a Tales of game- and that's really enough, I think.
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Bracket: Alucard > Captain Falcon --- Vote: Captain Falcon
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 9:44:16 PM | message detail
btw WTF DIDDY
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