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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 581

hailEC | Posted 10/1/2008 8:43:20 AM | message detail
so you like things just because other people dont

go make some friends plz
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 8:43:44 AM | message detail
Like I said last night, if Bacon decided fourway games contests were a good idea, I'd hound him with e-mails until he either reconsidered or banned me.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 8:43:56 AM | message detail

hailEC (#301)
so you like things just because other people dont


It's a great way to live. <3
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 8:43:58 AM | message detail
The good thing about 4ways is that even blow out matches can have some excitement about who finishes second... that was my main problem with the old matches, you could have several days of blowouts in a row, and nobody really cares, and it didnt get any good till the late rounds.
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hailEC | Posted 10/1/2008 8:45:41 AM | message detail
except you can actually have CONTEST STATS and DISCUSSION instead of just discussion

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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/1/2008 8:46:32 AM | message detail
There's far too much BS where characters lose because of fanbase overlap, it used to be a case of the strongest character wins in 4 way it's often not the case.

It was a good idea last year it freshened things up and masked the true strength of everyone for a year but there's no reason to make it a habit. 1 v 1 is the real deal.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 8:46:59 AM | message detail

_Hogger_ (#304)
The good thing about 4ways is that even blow out matches can have some excitement about who finishes second... that was my main problem with the old matches, you could have several days of blowouts in a row, and nobody really cares, and it didnt get any good till the late rounds.


Exactly. Fourways have three times the potential to be exciting. Plus they're more unpredictable. And now people want 1v1 back because they want this contest to be predictable and boring again? All because they're upset over a damn Tetris block?

If you want more obvious borefests, be my guest. I'll opt for the exciting and unpredictable fourways because I'm not afraid of change.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 8:48:04 AM | message detail
Not really sure why Bacon decided this format even warranted a second year, especially when it's probably harder to run and he's overwhelmed with all this GameFAQs work. Maybe he likes the fact that 128 entrants can participate or enjoys the higher votals (?). Either way though, I bet that even a traditional 1v1, 64 entrant Character Battle could be (partly) ruined next year. Even with only 64 spots open, you know a bunch of joke characters will still get in (especially if WCC and Sandbag manage to win a match).
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 8:50:04 AM | message detail
The obvious reason he chose this way was because the 1v1 was getting stale. It was way too predictable, and whats the point of running the contest every year when everyone knows all the characters strengths and who will win? This adds unpredictability and more excitement cuz nearly every match has excitement.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 8:53:27 AM | message detail
Plus the whole reason of the contest in the first place was to get more hits on the site. And 4ways seem to have higher votals, so as long as he gets more hits from 4 ways, it would be dumb from a site standpoint to make it 1v1 again.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 8:53:56 AM | message detail
Hoggy knows where it's at. At least we have more excitement, and L-Block has a tougher road than Link ever did in the 1v1. And we also have potential for other surprising runs, like Pikachu's. Seriously, when else have we had such huge runs besides Starcraft and Diablo? Two in one contest, and one actually winning out of nowhere? And you guys still want 1v1 to return and drain all excitement from these contests?

Out of curiosity, how many of you are Republican?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 8:54:35 AM | message detail
Bacon pulling a Nintendo confirmed

Look for Character Battle Fit in 2009.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 8:55:32 AM | message detail
I like these contests cuz of the unpredictability and stuff, and it just gets boring knowing exactly who will be final characters every year. Having Dante, L Block, and Master Chief in Elite 8 last year for me was good cuz it mixed things up a bit, and thats why 4way was implimented in the first place.
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Gatarix | Posted 10/1/2008 8:56:49 AM | message detail
I'm surprised that WCC's so widely branded a joke character; I haven't played Portal, but I remember in the days surrounding the game's release there was all sorts of WCC hype on the board and it seemed a whole lot of people genuinely thought it was awesome.

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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/1/2008 8:57:35 AM | message detail
I'm surprised that WCC's so widely branded a joke character; I haven't played Portal, but I remember in the days surrounding the game's release there was all sorts of WCC hype on the board and it seemed a whole lot of people genuinely thought it was awesome.

Its a box with a heart on it, that appears in one level. How is it not a joke?
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 10/1/2008 8:59:01 AM | message detail
I think L-Block's got this. Ryu has a terrible ASV, and if that goes like the BSV did, L-Block will be gaining.
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Gatarix | Posted 10/1/2008 9:00:02 AM | message detail
Because, from what I've seen, it actually has a fanbase that likes it (not just people voting it because it would be hilarious to see a box with a heart on it do well in the contest, which would be the mark of a joke character).

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The Mana Sword | Posted 10/1/2008 9:06:31 AM | message detail
Hmm, does anyone have an hourly chart for this match up to this point?
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Denzokuken | Posted 10/1/2008 9:07:42 AM | message detail
somebody hold me and tell me l-block will win...not because i want him to but for the sake of my bracket
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2008 9:13:33 AM | message detail
The obvious reason he chose this way was because the 1v1 was getting stale.

Our last 1v1 contest was 2006. Let me list to you the upsets in that bracket, as follows (not counting the Battle Royale):

Vincent > Ganondorf
Luigi > Zero
Sub-Zero > Master Chief
Luigi > Kirby
Snake > Mega Man
Sonic > Crono
Snake > Male Bracket

And then take into account upsets that while weren't upsets initially, became such by the time the matches rolled around, like Yoshi > Dante and Samus > Snake.

Now consider that all but ONE of these upsets took place in the male bracket - the finals. 1v1 wasn't the problem with 2k6. The female bracket was the problem.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:38:57 AM | message detail
Time | L-Block | Meta-Knight | Ryu | The Dog
01:00 | 33.34% | 21.77% | 29.77% | 15.12%
02:00 | 32.79% | 20.52% | 32.48% | 14.22%
03:00 | 32.17% | 19.80% | 34.63% | 13.40%
04:00 | 32.57% | 19.32% | 34.55% | 13.57%
05:00 | 31.45% | 18.68% | 37.30% | 12.57%
06:00 | 31.45% | 19.28% | 36.52% | 12.75%
07:00 | 31.76% | 22.92% | 31.34% | 13.98%
08:00 | 33.23% | 23.36% | 29.66% | 13.75%
09:00 | 30.97% | 21.83% | 31.81% | 15.39%
10:00 | 31.23% | 22.69% | 31.49% | 14.59%
11:00 | 30.81% | 22.55% | 31.87% | 14.77%
12:00 | 30.26% | 20.96% | 34.15% | 14.63%

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/1/2008 9:39:04 AM | message detail
Like I said last night, if Bacon decided fourway games contests were a good idea, I'd hound him with e-mails until he either reconsidered or banned me.

You'd probably get banned. Bacon doesn't seem to care about these contests all that much. At this point, it almost feels like it's out of duty, and he's trying to do as little as possible with it as he can. Ceej seemed to care about these contests a lot more than Bacon did, at the very least.

And go Ryu! Hang on to that lead!

Meta Knight will be taking that ASV, by the way.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/1/2008 9:39:43 AM | message detail
Man, Ryu spiked almost entirely at Meta's expense.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/1/2008 9:41:28 AM | message detail
With intelligent placement a 1v1 contest should never be predictable.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/1/2008 9:43:07 AM | message detail
Oh right, almost forgot. Yesterday's match chart:

Time | Ammy | Crono | Frank | Kaim
PHV | 26.26% | 50.72% | 15.54% | 7.48% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 26.18% | 50.44% | 15.49% | 7.89% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 27.46% | 48.67% | 15.58% | 8.29% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 26.74% | 49.05% | 15.91% | 8.29% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 26.65% | 48.17% | 17.18% | 8.00% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 25.41% | 50.88% | 15.53% | 8.17% | (22:00-24:00)

No huge percentage bleed for Crono or Frog so far, so that's a good sign for Magus, I guess. Of course, the current match doesn't bode well for him. As expected, Frank West does well with the ASV, and for some reason, Kaim did better during the day than at night. I mean, I know he's XBox, but still. Ammy did really well all around, though she dropped off a good bit at the end, for some reason.

Yesterday's stats:

Crono – 50.00%
Amaterasu – 35.05%
Frank West – 24.73%
Kaim Argonar – 14.05%
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/1/2008 9:44:24 AM | message detail
I think the scariest thing there is that L-Block looks like a fairly normal character. A 3% variation is probably under the average, if anything.
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Electroplankton | Posted 10/1/2008 9:44:51 AM | message detail
Are there mock x-stats for each division yet?
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Jose Escamilla | Posted 10/1/2008 10:06:26 AM | message detail
Come on Ryu, keep building that lead up....
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2008 10:10:15 AM | message detail
WHY L-BLOCK WHY
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frisqo | Posted 10/1/2008 10:36:22 AM | message detail
I don't know why I consistently go into Board 8 pre-contest when my picks would net me more points every year.

BRAWLFEAR more like BRAWLOLWUT?
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frisqo | Posted 10/1/2008 10:41:42 AM | message detail
Assuming L-block's almost guaranteed entrance to the quarterfinals.

Samus/Vincent/Crono/L-block=match of the contest?

lol, who do you even take
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2008 10:44:02 AM | message detail
I give L the favorite status in that match, if not then Vincent and then Crono. I'd say L has a 70% shot at placing, Vincent has a 20% shot and Crono has a 10% shot.

...this is ignoring the fact that I think L has a 50% shot at taking first in that match <_<
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 10:44:19 AM | message detail
L-Block > Samus. Easy spleezy.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 10/1/2008 10:45:43 AM | message detail

frisqo (#331)
Assuming L-block's almost guaranteed entrance to the quarterfinals.

Samus/Vincent/Crono/L-block=match of the contest?

lol, who do you even take


L-Block > Samus without thinking twice.

Though if you mean the Vincent/Crono rematch, I'd probably go with Vincent just because I want to see Crono fail again.
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frisqo | Posted 10/1/2008 10:51:44 AM | message detail
I meant the whole match

L-Block 29%>Samus 26%>Crono 23%>Vincent 22% looks just about right
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/1/2008 10:55:05 AM | message detail
Ryu's starting to slow down, I don't think he'll get any higher than 600 before the ASV.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 10:55:37 AM | message detail
With no fine-tunin'...

L-Block - 31%
Samus - 27%
Vincent - 21.5%
Crono - 20.5%

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The Mana Sword | Posted 10/1/2008 10:56:20 AM | message detail
Crono will not let L-Block win. Believe in Crono.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 11:01:09 AM | message detail
Belief didn't really do him much good last year. Plus, I think he dropped the ball by failing to hit 50%+ against his pathetic opponents, especially after Kaim turned out to be ultra fodder.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2008 11:01:18 AM | message detail
So after this year, who will L have left in the Noble Nine to beat? Mega Man should be the only one if I'm looking at this right.
The Mana Sword | Posted 10/1/2008 11:03:05 AM | message detail
Ammy was 4REAL.

I still don't get why Crono's performace was bad yesterday, personally. It was average. Not great, not bad, just Crono being Crono. That might not be enough to beat Vincent this year, but it certainly doesn't make me think he has no chance.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 11:08:34 AM | message detail
If Ammy's performance was for real, why did Frank West do better against her than he did against Ada Wong last year? I know extrapolations from this format should be taken with a grain of salt, but it's not as if I'm referencing insane, L-Block/SFF-spanning stuff. Frank had a match against Ada last year and a match against Ammy this year. Frank did better against Amaterasu despite her being stronger than Ada last year.

Crono dropped the ball. He should never fail to double Amaterasu (seriously, Dante managed it easily last year).
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/1/2008 11:10:09 AM | message detail
Maybe it has something to do with Okami getting a Wii release. Y'know new audiences do generally increase a character's popularity.

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The Mana Sword | Posted 10/1/2008 11:11:41 AM | message detail
Crono anti-fanboys in the house.

We'll see what happens when the time comes, but I don't think Crono has any worse of a shot than he did before the contest started.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 11:12:18 AM | message detail
A very real possibility, but once again, that begs the question "why did Frank do surprisingly well against her yesterday?" I guess one could argue that Frank was taking advantage of an Xbox fanbase split with Kaim, but eh, I'll have a hard time buying that.
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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 10/1/2008 11:14:01 AM | message detail
Chop 'til you Drop boost confirmed.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/1/2008 11:14:33 AM | message detail
Nah, I actually think Crono is pretty cool, but I just don't like the way he stacks up based on what we've seen. I'd call him a slight underdog against Vincent and a huge underdog against L-Block in the next round.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2008 11:14:53 AM | message detail
I don't even know why we're discussing Crono still. He's a complete non-factor now. He might beat L next round, but L advance (in Ryu's place damn you block) from third round on.

I had Crono > Ryu in round 2, but that was before L went almost even with Ryu (with the ASV to still look forward too)

Once again, goddamn these autistic 10 year old kids that we call a userbase.
The Mana Sword | Posted 10/1/2008 11:15:53 AM | message detail
Pfft, forget L, did you see that last update? Meta Knight almost stalled. And he's only 8500 votes behind. Get ready for a comeback.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2008 11:16:14 AM | message detail
A very real possibility, but once again, that begs the question "why did Frank do surprisingly well against her yesterday?"

Frank wasn't in a fourpack of losers like last year. Crono being there skews things, and Balthier's relative overperformance indicates that Dante/Ada SFF may have been to blame for Ada's loss last year.

I'm almost always down on Crono, but his day vote was surprisingly not awful this time. I think he's stronger.
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