GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 580
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 4:48:02 PM | message detail |
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Crono currently has 64.73% on Amaterasu, 75.23% on Frank West, and 85.87% on Kaim. Amaterasu has 62.34% on Frank West and 76.81% on Kaim. Frank West has 66.68% on Kaim. Fun Facts: Crono got 70.51% on Raiden in round 1 and 67.98% on Raiden in the second round. Amaterasu > Raiden? Take that, Lopen! Dante got 68.38% on Ammy in round 1 and 67.58% in round 2. Dante > Crono? Take that, Lopen! Wait... Frank West got 70.44% on Jade last year. Looks like Kaim could at least potentially beat Jade! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Spark Mandrill | Posted 9/30/2008 4:52:45 PM | message detail |
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XxSoulxX (#148) Would you take Ike over Pikachu? Because only one is getting out of that four-pack, so pick wisely. I've covered this already. Sharing a company doesn't mean you share a fanbase. Especially when you consider that Fire Emblem isn't even an A-list Nintendo franchise. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 4:54:58 PM | message detail |
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Personally, looking back on the results, I don't think ANY Pokemon
suffered SFF last year. Pikachu didn't seem to be affected by Luigi
(and if he did, it wasn't much. And you'd have to admit Luigi and
Pikachu are MUCH more likely to share a fanbase than Pikachu and Ike).
Bidoof and Mudkip obviously didn't seem to be affected much (though
that might be for joke reasons). And I've wondered since the match
happened if Mewtwo somehow avoided LFF against Bowser and Toad. He did
way too well on Bowser for someone who was supposedly LFF'd. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:00:20 PM | message detail |
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Looks like Crono is determined to stay above 49% here. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/30/2008 5:09:22 PM | message detail |
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apologies for the term overload, but I think it's likely that Pokemon
avoids SFF while getting LFF'd; that is, it doesn't get significantly
hurt by another Nintendo character unless you compare it to a third,
unrelated character. Pokemon is a weird entity for sure, but I think
it's extremely unlikely that it doesn't overlap with the Nintendo
fanbase in at least some way. I do agree that Pikachu and Ike are fairly separated and unique despite sharing Brawl, but they're still both leeching off the Nintendo fanbase. that has to benefit Arthas in some way, whether it's small or large. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:11:49 PM | message detail |
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If it's not a large amount, I don't know if Arthas can take advantage
of it. Seriously, the path seems to be opening for Ike to do really
well here, in my opinion. We'll see. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2008 5:12:25 PM | message detail |
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Bah. Don't hate on my Meta-Knight picture... he's hard to make R1
pictures for! Guy's too damn horizontally inclined and small. The background was meant to be like... ominous and stuff, with the faint light from the bottom working with the picture. You people have no artistic style bah. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:13:19 PM | message detail |
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Well, I admitted that it was difficult to do something suitable for Meta Knight just because of how he looks. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2008 5:14:38 PM | message detail |
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apologies for the term overload, but I think it's likely that
Pokemon avoids SFF while getting LFF'd; that is, it doesn't get
significantly hurt by another Nintendo character unless you compare it
to a third, unrelated character. Pokemon is a weird entity for sure,
but I think it's extremely unlikely that it doesn't overlap with the
Nintendo fanbase in at least some way. Fox/Pikachu? Pikachu and Luigi hurting eachother last year? If you think Fire Emblem "is a seperate and powerful entity", look no further than DK/Marth last year. The SFF there turned what should have been a close match between DK and Kratos into a pretty bad blowout, and Marth is stronger than Ike/DK weaker than Pikachu. Last year Ike was beaten soundly by pre-Orange Box Gordon Freeman and Duke and that was with whatever strength he and Pit scored from the trailer. Sure he's likely stronger this year, and may in fact be strong enough to tangle with Arthas, but if there is EVEN THE SLIGHTEST OVERLAP there is no way Arthas loses. Now I'm tired of arguing this match because you guys have yet to bring up a valid point, and it's basically biolizard constantly talking out of his ass. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2008 5:15:55 PM | message detail |
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I did manage to submit a damn good Kirby picture though despite his horizontal inclinedness. Warp stars for the win. And yeahhh Dante > Crono I am lovin this. (Raiden > Ammy remember he was disguised as a toaster last year.) --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:16:54 PM | message detail |
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There's no way of saying that DK and Kratos would've been that close in the first place. And you just made an argument for Ike doing well with Marth resisting LFF against DK! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/30/2008 5:17:29 PM | message detail |
| oh, Ike has a great chance here. I don't know why
people are giving Pikachu an automatic pass here, because he could very
well lose due to Ike being more liked amongst the Nintendo fanbase.
Pikachu's gone from being really underrated to really overrated. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:18:05 PM | message detail |
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...And Ike was beaten soundly? That's stretching it, even by Ulti standards. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2008 5:18:22 PM | message detail |
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Oh and by the way, I don't believe in Nintendo LFF. You people are all
wrong banking on it. It's just way too big a source of fans for it to
matter. Now Pika/Ike MIGHT have ill effects on Ike just because Ike ONLY draws from Smash. But Gordon and Duke imply Ike was 4REAL last year. I think Ike wins pretty easily now, despite my bracket saying otherwise, unfortunately. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:19:30 PM | message detail |
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I don't know why people are giving Pikachu an automatic pass here He burned nearly everyone's brackets last year (Shut up, BT. I don't need you to remind me you called it), and they're afraid to get burned again. And the main reason I took Ike over Pikachu because I was still suspect on the idea of Pikachu being a favored character. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:20:37 PM | message detail |
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just because Ike ONLY draws from Smash. Whoa there. Fire Emblem's starting to make a good little niche here on GameFAQs, and that's almost solely because of games that Ike is in. Remember that Metal Gear couldn't even double it in the Series Contest. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/30/2008 5:20:37 PM | message detail |
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it wasn't just Pikachu though, we put Lucario to round 3 en masse. it's
like people think Pokemon is suddenly some really strong force as
opposed to being midcarders. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| Spark Mandrill | Posted 9/30/2008 5:20:38 PM | message detail |
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Turtle, I'd bet this account that Ike will win. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:21:26 PM | message detail |
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For some reason, I thought people thought of Lucario as a Mewtwo. Shows how much I know about the Pokemon fanbase! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Spark Mandrill | Posted 9/30/2008 5:22:25 PM | message detail |
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LeonhartFour (#166) just because Ike ONLY draws from Smash. He did pretty well with only Fire Emblem to draw from last year. He's a casual favorite in Brawl. He will take all the Brawl votes because anyone who's voting Pikachu is doing so for Pokemon. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:22:58 PM | message detail |
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Whoa, why did I get quoted for saying that? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2008 5:26:16 PM | message detail |
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Sorry. THat's not even what I meant considering I admitted he was 4REAL last year. Still, his fanbase isn't very broad compared to the "Nintendo vote"... and Pikachu is a casual favorite in Brawl too. PIKAAA!!! *boom* PIKAAA!!! *boom* PIKAAA!!! *boom* PIKAAA!!! *boom* PIKAAA!!! *boom* PIKAAA!!! *boom* PIKAAA!!! *boom* *repeat ad nauseam* I still think Ike wins but only because things lean towards him not being fodder last year. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:28:12 PM | message detail |
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But people who don't play as Pikachu in Smash Bros. will vote for Ike
because they hate those stinkin' Pikachu players who spam Down-B over
and over and over and over and over and over and over again! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2008 5:30:41 PM | message detail |
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Oh come on it's endearing. Although Ike's *KAPHORSSSHHHHHH!* sound every time he smacks someone with that truck he's swinging around is pretty endearing too. It's a push. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/30/2008 5:31:06 PM | message detail |
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I have to say that people that don't use Pika in Smash are likely to vote for Ike on account of hating Thunder spammers. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2008 5:32:12 PM | message detail |
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Ike is easily the most endearing guy to Smash casuals. Every time he hits someone it sounds like a building collapsed. >_> Also, first time in a while where the match pic has almost mirrored our mock pic (1 off darn). Also also, I go Blocky hooray now die in a fire Tetris piece, --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2008 5:33:52 PM | message detail |
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And you just made an argument for Ike doing well with Marth resisting LFF against DK! You obviously weren't listening. Sure Marth held up relatively well to DK, but Kratos beat the both of them far too much for there to not be SFF there. And why would I bet my 6 year old 1300 karma account against a 2 year old alt with 50 karma? |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/30/2008 5:34:40 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, both the Duke and Gordon exceeded our expectations by a fair
amount, and even Guybrush won entire hours against Lucario and Isaac.
As a bonus, Ike now has Brawl, and we've seen Marth and Falco, two
Brawl fan favourites, do quite well for themselves. As a further bonus,
Ike's also got a new Fire Emblem game since last year, for whatever
that is worth. --- Mustache...and green... |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/30/2008 5:35:10 PM | message detail |
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Pretty sure Ike wasn't all Fire Emblem last year. I doubt he would have even gotten in if he hadn't been announced for Brawl. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2008 5:36:10 PM | message detail |
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Ike probably had a little boost from the site update last year, but not much. It was almost all FE. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2008 5:36:59 PM | message detail |
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Hype does no doubt help. I don't buy for a second Pit is as good as he
looked last year with only Kid Icarus after Little Mac got owned so
bad. But I'm sure he was at least mostly Fire Emblem. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| hailEC | Posted 9/30/2008 5:37:27 PM | message detail |
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that's because the wii sucks not because its a good game burn --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:37:38 PM | message detail |
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Ike got in the contest almost solely off of the site announcement, but
I doubt it was a large chunk of his strength. Even if it was, his
popularity in Brawl will give him reason to go up some more. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2008 5:37:56 PM | message detail |
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The difference between Pit and Ike was that Pit was announced on a
widely played trailer that had everyone going nuts. Ike was an update
on a website. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2008 5:38:56 PM | message detail |
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Oh yeah. I always forget Ike wasn't actually in the trailer heh. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:39:04 PM | message detail |
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And yeah, while Pit was as strong as he was almost entirely due to hype
off of the Brawl trailer, I would practically guarantee the trailer
does more than a site announcement. Pretty sure a lot more people saw
the trailer, and live action beats still images. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2008 5:42:56 PM | message detail |
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I know this is anecdotal evidence, but here's some reactions from my very casual friend: *when Ike was announced* Me: Aw yeah, I love Ike, so happy. Friend: Who? What game is he from? I guess having a new character is okay. *when Brawl came out* Me: I'm maining Ike! Friend: Yeah, me too! He's awesome! Me: what Everyone Else: We're all maining Ike! Me: ...I liked him before he was cool... Of course, Ike's number of mainers have died down, but practically everyone likes him to an extent. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| hailEC | Posted 9/30/2008 5:43:32 PM | message detail |
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Holy nice pic... I'm suddenly feeling a Ryu > Meta or Ryu > Dog
result. If you're intent is to vote for a joke, The Dog does a nice job
of grabbing the attention now, and he's pretty universally known. I
won't be surprised if L finishes last or 2nd at this point. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2008 5:43:45 PM | message detail |
| Marth impressed? He looked pretty crappy to me, and Falco is the much loved badass of the Star Fox series and a fan favourite in Melee, he did better than expectations, but he was a complete unknown quality. We've seen Ike completely bomb already. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2008 5:44:11 PM | message detail |
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Marth is stronger than Ike/DK weaker than Pikachu. Debatable and debatable. I think we've agreed that Marth/Ike is super-close until further notice and DK/Pika probably aren't too far apart. DK did beat down Marth and Pika lost to Luigi by nearly 5%, so I doubt they're miles apart or anything. I do think the SFF between Pika/Ike will be largely different from how DK/Marth ended due to the way their fanbases work, but strength-wise they're very similar. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:44:45 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'll be voting for Ike based on Brawl (and indifference toward
the rest), but I do like him now due to it. Ike in Free for Alls is fun. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/30/2008 5:45:40 PM | message detail |
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I'm just saying, don't act like Brawl had nothing to do with Ike last
year. It pretty much got him in the contest, and I'm pretty sure it
gained him some votes in the process amongst the likes of Duke Nukem,
Gordon Freeman, and Guybrush Threepwood. The site may not have the hype
of the trailer, but that doesn't mean it didn't do anything for his
popularity... --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:45:52 PM | message detail |
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I'm starting to think that BT doesn't actually pay attention to these contests. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2008 5:46:54 PM | message detail |
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I would say Ike's announcement had 2/5 the effect that the trailer had on Pit. Completely random guess, but it's what it feels like to me. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:47:41 PM | message detail |
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I admit Ike wouldn't have come as close as he did if he hadn't been
announced in Brawl, but he probably would be high fodder at least
without it. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2008 5:47:57 PM | message detail |
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Ike got in due to SSB and got the majority of his strength from FE. hes like ness but backwards oh god --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:48:44 PM | message detail |
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Kept wondering how long it'd take for HaRR to make the Ness comparison for Ike! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2008 5:49:40 PM | message detail |
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Well they do both fight for their friends, MIRITE OLOLOLOL So how bout that Block? Is anyone certain about anything with him? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2008 5:50:01 PM | message detail |
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The SSBB site definitely helped Ike vote-wise -- the vote-spike for him
when the Dojo updated that night says enough for me. That said, can't
can't can't see it helping much last year. He still lost to Duke/Gordon
when they were fighting each other, and the format helped his kind of
fanbase. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 5:50:10 PM | message detail |
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I'm certain I want it to lose, but other than that, nope! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
