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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 580

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/30/2008 2:04:08 PM | message detail
Not really sure what I want out of that match. I have Pikachu > Arthas and obviously wouldn't be disappointed if I got that result, but I might be willing to sacrifice two points to see Ike move on. I have Alucard > Pikachu in Round 2 (must not have thought that one through very much, or maybe I just really hate Pikachu even on a subconscious level), and a Pikachu/Ike/Diddy split would guarantee Alucard first place there.

I have more confidence in Arthas every day, though. I'm starting to really doubt that he'll lose to two Nintendo characters.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2008 2:06:34 PM | message detail
After Marth/Duke/Gordon/KOS-MOS's performances, I don't see how you could have MORE confidence in Arthas than you had before the contest started.

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Xuxon | Posted 9/30/2008 2:07:15 PM | message detail
funny, seeing kos-mos against frog has only lowered my faith in arthas, and seeing gordon and duke has increased my faith in ike.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/30/2008 2:09:58 PM | message detail
hmm, Frog didn't completely die in the day either. CT looks a bit more balanced this year.

Crono's going to stay above 48%.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 2:10:47 PM | message detail
I've got Pikachu > Arthas for round 2, but I'm seriously starting to think it'll be Alucard > Arthas. Alucard and Arthas will have no SFF at all, but Pikachu will likely need to deal with Diddy leeching.
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__hiei__ | Posted 9/30/2008 2:12:08 PM | message detail
Crono's looking to finish above 49% actually...he'll probably get better in the last few hours.
Xuxon | Posted 9/30/2008 2:13:12 PM | message detail
frog's match was on a weekend, though. i don't think crono stays above 49.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/30/2008 2:35:03 PM | message detail
looks like he's holding. even if he dips below 49, it's still a good performance, or at least a decent one.

come onnn match picture
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 2:40:30 PM | message detail
I hope we get 3 match pics at once. I can't wait to see the match pic for friday... to see if Arthas gets some lame pic, or the Wotlk pic. If its Wotlk pic, Ike is done. If not... I'm worried.
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 9/30/2008 2:43:47 PM | message detail
WotLK pic won't do anything. At ALL.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 2:46:05 PM | message detail
Mm hmm. Whatever you say. Not like alot of people who play WoW knows who Arthas is outside of "The Wotlk guy".
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 2:50:53 PM | message detail
And I have first hand experience of this. I know people who play WoW who are going to vote for Arthas cuz I showed them he's the guy in the expac, and had no idea who he was previous to that. You realize only about 20% of the WoW fanbase played previous Warcraft games, right? So to maximize Arthas' strength, they need to show him in the format WoW players know him as.
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 9/30/2008 2:51:35 PM | message detail
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/30/2008 2:52:13 PM | message detail
WotLK pic won't do anything. At ALL.

Of course it will. That picture has been plastered everywhere, and it makes Arthas look unbelievably badass, to boot.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2008 2:54:37 PM | message detail
I still don't understand where this Ike support is coming from.

First of all, KOS-MOS did exactly as expected. No better, no worse. Just because some of you guys were looking for an upset where there wasn't one doesn't mean she crapped out.

Secondly, Duke can be explained by having Duke Nukem 3D come out right around that match, and the fact that we actually have DNF screens.

Thirdly, Gordon didn't really impress so much as Scorpion completely failing, which is fodder for MY upset of Axel > Midna, not Ike > Arthas.

Lastly, even if you feel Ike beats Arthas 1v1 (I still say that there is no clear favourite for that one), the yellow rat being there is going to suck Ike dry. If there is one result that is being debated that I am 100% sure on, it is this one.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/30/2008 2:56:08 PM | message detail
Can't believe that if Axel actually does pull off that upset, I'll be celebrating with you, BT. >.>
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/30/2008 3:00:05 PM | message detail
Six hours.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2008 3:00:14 PM | message detail
Another thing I don't quite get is the faith that people have in Midna. If she could barely beat out Agent 47 and a Fails character less than a year after TP, how will she be able to beat a character from probably the most popular franchise going at the moment (with GH4 coming out in 3 weeks to boot)? People are saying Axel will be weak, but he doesn't have to be strong at all to kick the crap out of that loser Midna. Does anybody seriously talk about Twilight Princess anymore? Not saying it's a bad game, but it's become painfully irrelevant around here.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/30/2008 3:01:55 PM | message detail
Agent 47 would kick Axel Steel's ass.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/30/2008 3:03:42 PM | message detail
And just stop with this ridiculous notion of "most popular franchise in gaming" when it means nothing on GameFAQs. Twenty different series would own the hell out of Guitar Hero. Today. Tomorrow. Three weeks from now.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2008 3:03:46 PM | message detail
Midna - 180 (84.51%)
Axel Steel - 19 (8.92%)
Miles Edgeworth - 14 (6.57%)

Wow, I had no clue she was such a heavy favourite there. All the sweeter it will be when the upset happens.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/30/2008 3:04:14 PM | message detail
BT's Axel > Midna thing is starting to sound a lot like Lopen's Kaim > Ammy upset !!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2008 3:05:33 PM | message detail
probably the most popular franchise going at the moment

Yay reading comprehension. Are you still up for the sig bet yo?
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/30/2008 3:06:19 PM | message detail
Yes man I'm up I'm down I'm happy all around for that sig bet hope you like Ariel quotes
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 3:07:11 PM | message detail
Kaim is from a jrpg. Axel is from a billion dollar making series. A big difference.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/30/2008 3:07:28 PM | message detail
I don't even think Guitar Hero's the most popular music-based game series anymore.

I think it's just as likely for Axel Steel to be on Kaim's level as it is for him to beat Midna.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 3:11:34 PM | message detail
I don't even think Guitar Hero's the most popular music-based game series anymore.

By reviews and critical acclaim, it isn't. But by sales? Guitar Hero was the biggest selling game series of the last two years. GH3 on Wii is only bested by SSBB, Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Mario Kart in sales. And thats the worst selling version of it.
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 9/30/2008 3:17:57 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe (#115)
Secondly, Duke can be explained by having Duke Nukem 3D come out right around that match, and the fact that we actually have DNF screens.

Nothing can possibly boost Duke at this point. He's got his fanbase/casuals all locked up, and he had them last year.

Thirdly, Gordon didn't really impress so much as Scorpion completely failing, which is fodder for MY upset of Axel > Midna, not Ike > Arthas.

Honestly, you're only insisting that Gordon's so weak because if he COULD compete with scorpion, Ike > Arthas would be a no brainer.

Lastly, even if you feel Ike beats Arthas 1v1 (I still say that there is no clear favourite for that one), the yellow rat being there is going to suck Ike dry.

Ike and Pikachu have two distinctly different fanbases. Nobody would vote Pikachu because of Brawl. Plenty of people would vote for Ike solely for Brawl, however. Ike gets full FE fanbase support, which is all he had last time. Get over this whole "SAME COMPANY SFF LOL" bull ****.

If there is one result that is being debated that I am 100% sure on, it is this one.

Like I said a while back, I just believe that Ike can win. You're setting yourself up if you're wrong, and I will not hesitate to throw it in your ****ing face if it doesn't come to pass.
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Xuxon | Posted 9/30/2008 3:22:40 PM | message detail
the match isn't guitar hero vs cloud vs midna vs edgeworth though. it's a cartoon that isn't even as much an avatar as it is a pointless image on the screen that you don't even get a chance to look at because you're looking at the notes, and even then the game's own fanbase is split between the different toons. i have midna because i don't even expect him to beat edgeworth.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 3:25:50 PM | message detail
Oh, he'll beat Edgeworth. Anyone from a popular game, no matter how insignicant they are, can beat out fodder of Edges level.
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 9/30/2008 3:28:22 PM | message detail
Albion, I'm curious, was EVERY character that didn't make it past round 2 fodder to you?
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/30/2008 3:32:07 PM | message detail
The Wii version of GH3 kicked the pulp out of the PS3 version and outsold the 360 version. It maybe or may not have out sold the PS2 version.


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wavedash101 | Posted 9/30/2008 3:33:21 PM | message detail
And Galaxy, MP8, and TP outsold GH3 Wii
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 3:38:43 PM | message detail
Ah, I mixed up 2008 sales and total Wii sales. In 2008, those 4 games outsold GH3 Wii, but not total. And I'm pretty sure GH3 for 360 outsold it.. I remember first week at least, 360 version killed the Wii and PS3 versions.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/30/2008 4:03:58 PM | message detail
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L-Block's picture doesn't really matter. Kirby's is fair. Ryu's is... good or bad? I dunno. The Dog got his best pic, which, in fairness, is one of his only pics.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 4:05:32 PM | message detail
I like Ryus. its from Street Fighter 4 incase anybody dosen't know where its from. I'm wondering if SF4 will boost Ryu much... Cuz this is the first time during contests that we've had any game coming out that might actually boost Ryu.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/30/2008 4:06:48 PM | message detail
Not expecting it. IIRC, Street Fighter 4 has been murdered in every single poll it's been in.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/30/2008 4:08:33 PM | message detail
Well the Wii version came back. GH Wii charted on the NPDs for more months than any other version. First month sales mean less for a Wii release, since Wii games have legs.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/30/2008 4:12:27 PM | message detail
Meta Knights pic is about bland as can be, and doesn't stand out at all due to the dull background. Hopefully it doesn't hurt him.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/30/2008 4:19:08 PM | message detail
sprite dog joke lff confirmed gamefaqs is saved

Eh, I'm not a fan of the SF4 art for Ryu, and I guess MK is okay.
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Electroplankton | Posted 9/30/2008 4:22:02 PM | message detail
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That would have been much better.

Ryu and Meta Knight are like "holy **** somebody kill that damn dog"
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2008 4:23:23 PM | message detail
To be fair to GH3's Wii-sales, it's the first GH on the system -- they've also got to sell the guitars with the system. How did GH3-Wii's sales compare to GH2-360's sales?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 4:24:36 PM | message detail
L-Block's and Meta Knight's pictures are pretty lame because there's too much open space. I guess it can't be helped since they're small but still, doesn't look good. Ryu's is good, but The Dog has the pic advantage. Seriously, that is a universally recognizable image, and I think the fact that it has the pic advantage and L-Block's pic is just bleh might make a difference.

(I know I'm probably reaching with my logic, but who cares? I believe in Joke LFF! Come on, one of these factors has to matter!)
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Electroplankton | Posted 9/30/2008 4:25:44 PM | message detail
Of course the pic would have been perfect if Ryu didn't look like an ogre.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2008 4:26:28 PM | message detail
Just for kicks, let me ask about the ultimate upset: ASSUMING Dog pulled the upset on L-Block and the match ended with Ryu > Dog, do you take Dog any further?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 4:26:30 PM | message detail
Also, I'm starting to feel better about Ike by the day. Marth, Duke, and Gordon have all impressed, and Ike has plenty of reason to be stronger than last year.

Who takes Duke or Gordon over Ike this year? Would you take Ike over Scorpion? Would you take Arthas over Scorpion?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 4:27:44 PM | message detail
If The Dog can beat Meta Knight AND L-Block, I don't know why it wouldn't have a great shot at advancing farther. Seriously, if The Dog gets widespread joke support over L-Block to the point it takes second, watch out.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 9/30/2008 4:29:00 PM | message detail
Would you take Ike over Pikachu?

Because only one is getting out of that four-pack, so pick wisely.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/30/2008 4:29:46 PM | message detail

LeonhartFour (#143)
L-Block's and Meta Knight's pictures are pretty lame because there's too much open space.



I tried making a Meta-Knight picture, but that guy's too damn wide to do much with this format. It ended up looking like a Round 2 portrait shot.

That's also why I kept the bushes for the Dog pic. There would be a ton of open space without them.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2008 4:29:52 PM | message detail
I've got Ike > Pikachu, so yes. I don't really think much of Arthas, and I don't think much of the potential fanbase split. I don't think LFF is guaranteed.
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