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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 580

UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/29/2008 9:53:10 PM | message detail
America is so screwed.

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/29/2008 10:26:35 PM | message detail
What a ****ty introduction.

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A surveillance camera!?
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Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 11:04:38 PM | message detail
That introduction could be about the economy, or it could be about Russia sending its block to taint our contest again.

Meta-Knight: American made.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
Master Moltar | Posted 9/29/2008 11:05:59 PM | message detail
save_us.MTK
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Moltar Status: augh
Amaterasu/Crono/Frank/Kaim - Bracket: Crono > Ammy - Vote: Ammy (38/48)
MichaelWClark | Posted 9/29/2008 11:07:35 PM | message detail
Ryu>Metaknight. Book it.
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Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton
RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/29/2008 11:13:11 PM | message detail
Meta-Knight with 30% of the vote book it.

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A surveillance camera!?
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Admiral Nobody88 | Posted 9/29/2008 11:14:17 PM | message detail
Just realized i have L-block>Ryu, so i guess I won't be on the top 50 for much longer.
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transience | Posted 9/29/2008 11:14:44 PM | message detail
L's got a chance at coming in first, don't give up yet.
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xyzzy
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/29/2008 11:15:16 PM | message detail
Guys, if L-Block is beating Ryu tomorrow night, will I even be allowed to post here? I'm thinking anything I say will be responded with venom of some digital sorts.
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Tohoya | Posted 9/29/2008 11:16:00 PM | message detail
gogogogo Ammy!

Static fanbase to allow her into round 3 L-Block > Ammy believe
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MichaelWClark | Posted 9/29/2008 11:16:15 PM | message detail

RPGGamer0 (#006)
Meta-Knight with 30% of the vote book it.




Ryu 40, Meta 28 L block 25, the Dog 7
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Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton
transience | Posted 9/29/2008 11:16:46 PM | message detail
static fanbase more like got killed in round 3

or is this Last Place Factor oh god kill me
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xyzzy
"Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai
HaRRicH | Posted 9/29/2008 11:17:00 PM | message detail
Guess that means you better say whatever you could say today then!
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
Remember these games!
Admiral Nobody88 | Posted 9/29/2008 11:17:06 PM | message detail
I know that, but then for some weird reason I have Crono>Ryu in round 2.
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transience | Posted 9/29/2008 11:17:55 PM | message detail
okay, yeah, those two things won't/can't happen.
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xyzzy
"Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai
Malakuko | Posted 9/29/2008 11:19:03 PM | message detail
Ryu > L-Block
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bospsychopaat | Posted 9/29/2008 11:21:10 PM | message detail
Oh look, what a cute fluffy wolf!

>.>

Amaterasu gets the kiddie vote? I think it's plausible and it explains why she died in the third round (Pikachu). Although I haven't looked at a single update chart for her.
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Xuxon | Posted 9/29/2008 11:36:25 PM | message detail
the more i think about it, the more it's hard for me to see crono > ryu happen if l-block is in round 2. the dog not only does a bad job of hurting ryu and meta-knight because it's (probably) so weak, but it could hurt l-block. and weak as ammy is, i don't see it getting much worse than the dog in terms of percentage. the closer l-block gets to 30, the closer crono and ryu need to be to both be above it, so it'd basically require l-block to behave more like a normal character and actually drop in % between rounds.
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Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 11:37:37 PM | message detail
I really don't like the L-Block's chances of being stopped in R2 with this apparently boosted Ammy, let me tell ya.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/29/2008 11:39:07 PM | message detail
I've been saying that if Ryu doesn't have a monster day tomorrow (say, in first place by a good 8-10%), you may as well stamp L-Block's ticket to the semifinals.
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Admiral Nobody88 | Posted 9/29/2008 11:46:21 PM | message detail
I actually be fine with L-block losing tomorrow just so I have one less rogue joke character to worry about, forget about the points I would lose.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/29/2008 11:51:35 PM | message detail
It's much more significant than a rogue joke character, really. If L-Block does well tomorrow, 90% of the Gurus may as well burn their brackets. It's arguably the biggest match of the tournament (when the hell have we said that about a first round match before?).
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transience | Posted 9/29/2008 11:55:42 PM | message detail
yeah, I just wrote that in my analysis for tomorrow. can't wait for this thing.

I wanna see the picture of The Dog.
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xyzzy
"Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai
wavedash101 | Posted 9/29/2008 11:56:37 PM | message detail
He better be laughing
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transience | Posted 9/30/2008 12:14:16 AM | message detail
Crono comin' back to earth here.
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xyzzy
"Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai
transience | Posted 9/30/2008 12:15:12 AM | message detail
AND KAIM WITH A DOUBLE DIGIT PERCENTAGE UPDATE KAIMFAQS LIVES
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xyzzy
"Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai
__hiei__ | Posted 9/30/2008 12:16:03 AM | message detail
Kaim performance of the year
transience | Posted 9/30/2008 12:17:51 AM | message detail
TWO IN A ROW

DON'T CALL IT A COMEBACK I BEEN HERE FOR YEARS
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xyzzy
"Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai
satai_delenn | Posted 9/30/2008 1:05:21 AM | message detail
...huh. So I come back from finishing Crisis Core to discover that Kaim is...terrible.

Okay, Crono, let's do this thing right.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/30/2008 2:15:36 AM | message detail
I don't see why people are gasping at Ammy doing so well here. Kaim and Frank suck so bad that someone has to pick up the excess percentage, and Crono already has %50, so Ammy just looks good because she's facing bad fodder.
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Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/30/2008 2:35:37 AM | message detail
We've never had a returning champ whose strength was so...disputed before. We always knew that Link, Cloud and all their NN chums would be fairly strong no matter what. L-Block's a whole different animal, and I do hope next summer we see him in a "regular" contest, one v one matchups.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/30/2008 3:04:37 AM | message detail
I would bet L-Block bombs one on one, especially if there is any truth to the whole 28% theory.
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Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest.
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Xuxon | Posted 9/30/2008 3:06:19 AM | message detail
i would have preferred seeing l-block 1v1 this year instead. after this year, it won't be as unpredictable how l-block would fare 1v1.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/30/2008 3:16:29 AM | message detail
YESSS KAIM CUT!
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transience | Posted 9/30/2008 4:01:09 AM | message detail
nice morning vote by Amaterasu. given how much Crono will fall in the afternoon, I wonder how high she can get.

Frank West probably does the best then, though.
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xyzzy
"Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai
greatone10 | Posted 9/30/2008 5:01:49 AM | message detail
I could be wrong here, but I don't think Crono's going to fall too much here. Yay, CT sucks during the day, but his competition sucks for the entire 24 hours, so I doubt Crono's going to do too bad here.
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Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/30/2008 5:10:23 AM | message detail
Crono's not doing as well as I'd hoped- he's not much further ahead of Ammy than Vincent beat Falco by, and he's still going to lose percentage probably before we're done.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 42/48 --- T-20 (104 way)
Bracket: Crono > Amaterasu --- Vote: Crono
TestIcicles | Posted 9/30/2008 5:37:17 AM | message detail
If Crono can't keep it above 50% in this here match... damn that's ugly.

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charmander6000 | Posted 9/30/2008 5:43:18 AM | message detail
I'm surprised that Crono is still fighting to be around 50%.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls
Character Battle 2008: Points 36/48 Today's Match: Crono > Amaterasu
ffmasterjose | Posted 9/30/2008 5:45:28 AM | message detail
Awww yeah Vincent > Crono to happen again
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38/48 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Crono > Amaterasu
TheCatWhoSwims | Posted 9/30/2008 5:54:26 AM | message detail
Vincent > Crono looking good.

My biggest gambit up tomorrow -- I have Ryu > Meta Knight.

Against my better judgment, but estimating that thing from match to match is impossible for me so I just hope really hard he goes out first round.

Either L-Block was an inflated joke that gained momentum (unlikely) or he's strong partly because of the wide exposure of Tetris and carries an amplified version of the Pikachu-effect -- wide casual appeal to surface when other options are polarized (Square-Nintendo-Third Part) and it can mooch off every single one of those fanbases and take full advantage of close matches.

Still doesn't explain how it got first over Link, though.
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TestIcicles | Posted 9/30/2008 5:55:40 AM | message detail
Rallying across the interweb? It's pretty obvious that's what happened.

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TheCatWhoSwims | Posted 9/30/2008 5:57:39 AM | message detail
Takes a heckload of rallying to carry it over Link. There's like 200k votes in that poll.
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TestIcicles | Posted 9/30/2008 5:58:50 AM | message detail
Exactly.

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2008 6:24:48 AM | message detail
Crono's not doing as well as I expected (just fell under 50%? This soon? Hmmm), but it's not going to convince me Vincent has it in the bag for their rematch down the road yet.
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
Remember these games!
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/30/2008 6:30:51 AM | message detail
Here's hoping that rallying factors in for this match!

Or better yet, it won't need to!
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/30/2008 6:31:35 AM | message detail

PartOfYourWorld (#009)
Guys, if L-Block is beating Ryu tomorrow night, will I even be allowed to post here? I'm thinking anything I say will be responded with venom of some digital sorts.


You can bet I'll be posting here, and I can promise you ahead of time it will be ugly.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/30/2008 6:33:31 AM | message detail
L-Block > The Dog

Believe.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 36/48 Today's Match: Crono > Amaterasu
Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/30/2008 6:37:34 AM | message detail
We should rally for Ryu.
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Justin's CB Points: 42 | Points After this Round: 46
Today: Crono > Amaterasu | Tomorrow: Ryu > L Block
hochimnih157 | Posted 9/30/2008 6:38:52 AM | message detail
I told you guys Crono would be under 50% by morning. This is very bad for him. Vincent won't even struggle to win this time around
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