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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 579
| SupremeArticle | Posted 9/29/2008 5:25:13 PM | message detail |
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4 points today :D --- if you see me make a mistake i will give you a cookie |
| hailEC | Posted 9/29/2008 5:25:39 PM | message detail |
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my nuts just dropped off --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 5:26:00 PM | message detail |
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Vercetti didn't drop off, Kefka spiked while Vercetti stayed mostly consistent. You're making it out like Gordon gets random 50 vote increases out of nowhere, when he isn't. Both him and Scorpion fluctuated wildly throughout the entire day. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Dark_Spiral | Posted 9/29/2008 5:26:52 PM | message detail |
| What he's saying is that the pattern is still there, and it's consistent regardless. And it's happened before in a previous match. He's not accusing anyone of anything, he's saying it's unusual and I agree |
| hailEC | Posted 9/29/2008 5:27:26 PM | message detail |
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gordons a cheater he should be banned from all future contests --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 5:28:08 PM | message detail |
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Pattern of WHAT? A close match? You people are just reaching for something to excuse Scorpion bombing. Well, he bombed. Look at his position in relation to Balthier. If Gordon cheated that would put him at a lower value than last year, after the Orange Box. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Dark_Spiral | Posted 9/29/2008 5:30:11 PM | message detail |
| Excuses for bombing? Regardless he's winning and it's been close. I wouldn't see a win as bombing. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/29/2008 5:30:15 PM | message detail |
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Match XIII: Amaterasu vs. Crono vs. Frank West vs. Kaim Argonar Information: Name: Amaterasu Game/Series From: Okami 2007 Results: 2nd in round 1, 2nd in round 2, 4th in round 3 With a lucky bracket placement and being stronger than what many people thought Amaterasu found herself in round 3 of last year’s contest and that was before the Wii version of Okami was released. As a reward she gets placed where she has the ability to come out of this division. Name: Crono Game/Series From: Chrono Trigger 2007 Results: 1st in round 1, 1st in round 2, 3rd in round 3 Crono started off really well, but by round three he found himself behind Vincent in a not so outstanding upset. If all goes as plan Crono will be meeting with Vincent in round 4 and with Crono not losing by that much this could end up being another nail biter. Name: Frank West Game/Series From: Dead Rising 2007 Results: 3rd in round 1 After losing decisively to Ada and Balthier Frank returns for another shot in the Character Battle. Nothing is new for Frank, but was his four-pack underrated last year? Jade says no, but Balthier says yes. Name: Kaim Argonar Game/Series From: Lost Odyssey 2007 Results: Did not enter Another newly created character since last year. Kaim comes from a RPG on the Xbox360 something you don’t see every day. Will his uniqueness give him strength or destroy him? Analysis: This is the second of seven matches in the first round to not include a Nintendo character and the second one in a row. This is an interesting match we have Crono, the juggernaut up against three characters who will be fighting over the remains of what Crono does not take. Crono the giant will obviously take first here. The question is by how much? Crono is dealing with three more or less fodder characters if he wants to look good for his rematch against Vincent he’ll have to at least outdo him and will probably be pushing for 50%. Crono was one of two noble nines who failed to break 50% last year so hopefully he’ll be able to do it. Since last year Amaterasu had Okami released for the Wii and while I don’t see her gaining leaps and bounds from this remake it will at least keep her constant and to come in second that’s all that she really needs. There is a chance that she may lose and this is mostly being caused by what’s happening today. I never gave much thought of Frank having a chance until I saw Balthier doing better than what he was suppose to. Last year we all remembered the weirdness of Dante/Leon which let Pikachu get first with no trouble well I’m starting to believe that the same may have happened in round 2 in Dante/Ada. Leon and Ada were both from the same games so I see no reason for something weird to happen to one character and not the other. Also Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition was released so one would think that Ada would have gained rather than stay the same or even drop. Using Ada Frank is expected to get 33.17% on Amaterasu. So while taking a double take on Frank I don’t think whatever happened in Dante/Ada would bring Frank above Amaterasu, especially with Okami for the Wii being released. He will perform much better than what some people will give credit for though. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/29/2008 5:30:29 PM | message detail |
| I don’t like talking about characters that I don’t
know much about though in many cases that character is weak so I can
assume he’ll get last. With Frank going to do much better compare to
last year I don’t Kaim doing well here. RPGs for the Xbox360 aren’t the
norm and many fans of the system tend to not be huge fans of the genre
unless it’s something like Final Fantasy. Unless I underestimate him
Kaim will be getting last tomorrow. Crono is going to absorb percent at the start of the match before losing a lot of it during the day. Hopefully for his sake he stays above 50% or he may not make this an interesting match against Vincent in round 4. Amaterasu will take second with a lucky bracket placement though any underestimations from the other two characters could prove fatal. charmander6000’s Bracket: Crono > Amaterasu charmander6000’s Prediction: Crono – 52.48%, Amaterasu – 19.36%, Frank West – 15.38%, Kaim – 12.78% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 32/44 Today's Match: Scorpion > Gordon |
| Dark_Spiral | Posted 9/29/2008 5:33:06 PM | message detail |
| I have to agree. I didn't think much of Ama, actually but it seems plausible it could go Crono > Ama. Though I have Crono > Kaim. I don't see Frank West doing well at all, so it'll be a toss up |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 5:33:32 PM | message detail |
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No, seriously, it really was Vercetti dropping off several times go look at the updates. I'm not saying Kefka never spiked but yeah, I'm not making things up. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Link The Hylian | Posted 9/29/2008 5:34:19 PM | message detail |
| I'd be happier about Gordon doing well if it was
more than just some stupid Half Life console port. I find the whole
site preferring console games to PC in general pretty sad. There are also way better PC game characters than Gordon who would never see the light of day in these contests. Gordon Freeman is pretty much just "the Half Life guy". What character or personality does he have? --- "The PS2 had 12,000,000 pre orders. To give you an idea of how many people that is that's over half of the world population." - DifferentialEquation |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 5:34:48 PM | message detail |
| I did. Vercetti dropped off a little at some
points, but nothing compared to Kefka's random 50 vote surges. Gordon
had nothing close to anything like this in his entire match (even that
80+ vote increase in the beginning was because Scorpion completely
dropped off). --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Dark_Spiral | Posted 9/29/2008 5:36:37 PM | message detail |
| Not a big fan of Gordon or Master Chief at all. To each their own though. Chief imo doesn't deserve to be in the contest. He has the personality of a brick and the only redeeming quality of Halo was the multiplayer. Even that seemed lackluster in the second and third versions. The first, however, was revolutionary to the multiplayer fps |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/29/2008 5:39:38 PM | message detail |
| Color me surprised by Gordon Freeman. Granted,
some sort of over-performance was to be expected after what Duke Nukem
did, but I never thought it would be to this extent. I can't wait for Ike's match now. --- "Men that are trapped by chains of 'maybe' can never reach their dreams!" Explicit Content > me in the Guru |
| Malakuko | Posted 9/29/2008 5:40:20 PM | message detail |
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Kaim is Altair 2.0 you just watch --- http://img.imgcake.com//christ2.gif http://img.imgcake.com//dannynoriegaanimated.gif Mer NOICE! |
| Dark_Spiral | Posted 9/29/2008 5:41:19 PM | message detail |
| I'd like to see Kaim just come out of nowhere, that would rock. It's one of my riskier picks, but they can't all be about brackets. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 5:41:21 PM | message detail |
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Don't even get me started on what this means for Ike. (essentially, not much, the Gordon that faced Ike was pre-Orange Box, not that this doesn't help) --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/29/2008 5:42:14 PM | message detail |
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Gordon over-performing due to the Orange Box, sure, but it still doesn't explain Duke Nukem. --- "Men that are trapped by chains of 'maybe' can never reach their dreams!" Explicit Content > me in the Guru |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/29/2008 5:43:57 PM | message detail |
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Not to mention that the Ike Gordon faced was pre-Brawl Ike. And both Falco and Prince Marth have acquitted themselves quite well, so I have high hopes for Ike. --- Mustache...and green... |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 5:44:34 PM | message detail |
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"Okay" The drop offs were "nothing" despite that being the friggin stats topic motto that day to talk against Kefka cheating. I'm not saying Gordon cheated beyond a shadow of a doubt but to say today was not at all suspicious is being blind. Not to mention you're kinda just making things up anyway. These are all Gordon votals where everyone else remained constant for groups of five minute updates in the match during the afternoon. 149 143 180 157 151 147 181 151 166 I'm sure I could find more but yeah they're not hard to see from time to time in the afternoon. A few of those random lead cuts definitely were all Gordon. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 5:46:17 PM | message detail |
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Yes, congrats, you managed to find some updates where Gordon
overperformed. Because that has never happened before in any match ever. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 5:48:25 PM | message detail |
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They are scattered throughout the afternoon, dude. I'm just saying that
your propaganda about it always being Scorpion is wrong. The point is
what doesn't happen every match ever. Lead extend lead extend - RANDOM STOP - lead extend lead extend - RANDOM STOP. Gordon did this for hours. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 5:50:21 PM | message detail |
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Actually, you know what? I think Scorpion was the one who was stuffing. 126 100 157 116 132 124 140 113 119 149 159 147 106 137 136 146 180 148 149 127 125 159 Obviously when people saw he was losing, they stuffed for him to protect their brackets. Because we know character never fluctuate like this. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/29/2008 5:51:42 PM | message detail |
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Gordon's still doing the random stops now, Scorpion's just gaining way too much the other updates. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 5:53:28 PM | message detail |
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Random stops? from 19:44 to 20:39 it's nothing but a string of 100-120 vote updates. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 5:54:29 PM | message detail |
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Yes, KP, there was fluctuation on both sides. Good job in helping drive
my point home that it doesn't matter who technically "spiked" more or
not, you have to look at the big picture. The point is the overall fluctuation looked more suspicious on Gordon's side. You know, the net change to the lead over the hours and how it was resisting such change? Most matches, even close ones, do not go gain gain gain - HUGE LOSS stall - gain gain gain - HUGE LOSS stall. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 5:55:24 PM | message detail |
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I mean, look at this graph. http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3255&type=1&seconds=60&max=0 Does Scorpion look consistent to you? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2008 5:56:33 PM | message detail |
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Lopen and KP. Two people that will argue until the collapse of civilization. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 5:57:37 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'm looking at the poll updates, and I don't see these HUGE
LOSSES you're talking about. Gordon has his ups and downs, but they're
pretty gradual. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 5:58:07 PM | message detail |
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Are you willingly missing my point here? The only other close match that has followed this voting pattern
of gain gain gain LOSS stall gain gain to the letter was
Kefka/Vercetti. Of course they're not consistent only boring ass
matches involving Samus and Nightmare are consistent. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Electroplankton | Posted 9/29/2008 5:58:42 PM | message detail |
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| Random_Guy_42 | Posted 9/29/2008 5:59:32 PM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#178) Holy Crap best contest graph ever. --- Vote for Jinjo in the 2k8 Character Battle |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 6:00:04 PM | message detail |
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In that case, Scorpion is stuffing. Prove me wrong. Who's more likely to stuff (or rather which group vastly outnumbers the other), people with Scorpion in first, or Gordon in first? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Dark_Spiral | Posted 9/29/2008 6:01:49 PM | message detail |
| Someone who knew the majority, picked Gordon with the intention of jumping up in numbers while most fell. That's who'd be more likely to stuff. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/29/2008 6:05:44 PM | message detail |
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I'd hop into this argument, but Bacon has proven more than once he won't take measures to stop a simple voting script. --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore ~*ST*~ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 6:06:01 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, because Kefka was sure the underdog in prediction percentages. ...We should probably stop this before we hit 500. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/29/2008 6:06:51 PM | message detail |
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what on earth are you talking about? bracket support doesnt prove who's actually stuffing. --- *is Dranze* Falco/GlaDOS/Vincent/Wander - Bracket: Vincent > Falco - Vote: Falco (32/40) |
| Dark_Spiral | Posted 9/29/2008 6:08:48 PM | message detail |
| Actually Kefka initially was. He hasn't performed well in nearly any of the contests, and was often considered an after thought. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/29/2008 6:09:09 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, because Crono was the favorite over Mario in 2002. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/29/2008 6:09:46 PM | message detail |
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And StarCraft was the favorite to win Division 128. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 6:11:45 PM | message detail |
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Tommy had 37% of the brackets backing him. And Leon, I'm just trying to show him flimsy the comparison is. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 6:13:00 PM | message detail |
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Although Mario WAS the favorite against Crono in 2k3...>_> --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/29/2008 6:14:56 PM | message detail |
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And I'm just saying that particular point holds NO water whatsoever. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 6:16:07 PM | message detail |
| Which is the point I'm trying to make. Any
argument we can possibly make for this debate is doomed to failure and
circular logic. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/29/2008 6:17:26 PM | message detail |
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UltimaterializerX (#186) I'd hop into this argument, but Bacon has proven more than once he won't take measures to stop a simple voting script. I think we get the point already. --- CB7 Score: 36/44 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 6:29:40 PM | message detail |
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Better idea, KP Do we assume Scorpion was stuffing to win 3/4ths of the updates in the afternoon or Gordon was stuffing to win 1/4th of them, seeing as the routine "spike" is the only thing suspicious. Stop being silly. Scorpion having the ability to stuff doesn't mean that Gordon's lead manipulation isn't the whole reason we're having this conversation right now. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/29/2008 6:31:12 PM | message detail |
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Gordon Freeman, Master Lead Manipulator. I like the sound of that. --- CB7 Score: 36/44 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 6:31:45 PM | message detail |
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...Lopen, just let the argument die. There's a reason I didn't say anything for 12 minutes. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/29/2008 6:33:44 PM | message detail |
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Looks like Gordon's doing some lead manipulation right now, actually. --- CB7 Score: 36/44 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
