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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 579
| trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 1:40:25 PM | message detail |
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Well "core fighting fanbase" or whatever you want to call it, I'm
just pointing out that Scorpion seems to be like a less popular Ryu
more than any other character as far as consistency goes. So if
Scorpion is "casual bait", you might as well call Ryu "casual bait".
And the reason KP even brought up casual bait is that he was claiming
that Scorpion would fold in the presence of a much stronger character,
even though he cleanly beat Frog (and Midna) with Samus in the poll.
Wasn't Frog the favorite around here? I was really just arguing the
notion that Scorpion would fold easily because he's casual and voters
would abandon him. I see nothing pointing to the sort. was responding to Albion, not you. I agree with you. that fourpack is a three-way tossup. as I said last night, let's wait for Fox and Sub-Zero before declaring anything there. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 1:40:30 PM | message detail |
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Don't really think Gordon will have it in him to mount a night comeback. The difference between Scorpion and the Duke is that the Duke was taking off with the during school vote and then Gordon stalled him with the ASV whereas Scorpion is taking off during the ASV. Second night vote is heavily influenced by the ASV so it becomes that much harder to swing last minute comebacks against people who rip things apart at this time. Gordon's random stalls are cute, though. He really wants it. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/29/2008 1:42:38 PM | message detail |
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I'd be hesitant to say that Gordon has no chance here. It's probably
unlikely, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility. Scorpion isn't
exactly blowing Gordon away with the ASV. --- CB7 Score: 36/44 English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 1:44:07 PM | message detail |
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Gordon coming back would really, really shock me. you can pretty much
stop paying attention to this one, as there's just no reason for
Freeman to make it close. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 1:45:30 PM | message detail |
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though Gordon's doing much better than I expected in the daytime.. but
then, Scorpion did much better at night against Gordon than expected,
so who knows. I still don't see a comeback here. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/29/2008 1:46:41 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Scorpion should have this, but I wouldn't be stunned if Gordon made a move. Especially if there is cheating going on. --- CB7 Score: 36/44 English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 1:47:34 PM | message detail |
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Gordon's random stall spikes don't really make any sense to me at all
and that's why I said Extha might be right, but really it just looks
like he's fighting the inevitable here regardless of what's going on. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 1:52:26 PM | message detail |
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there's some stalls there, but there's still a general upward trend for
Scorpion. Gordon will have to make some considerable cuts - like, 100
votes or something - in order for me to consider a comeback. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/29/2008 1:56:25 PM | message detail |
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Gordon's stalls might look suspicious, but are they due to him spiking or is Scorpion just dropping off occasionally? Remember that Gordon's crazy update fifteen minutes into the poll or so was entirely Scorpion collapsing rather than any spike on Gordon's part. --- "Frerleorleolreolreorleolo!"--Crash Bandicoot |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/29/2008 1:58:22 PM | message detail |
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Big Daddy's mounting a comeback! --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 2:03:57 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3255&type=1&seconds=60&max=0 Gordon doesn't look too weird to me. it looks like a normal close match. I think people are just calling cheating because the match is closer than they expect and that it's Freeman. if anything, Scorpion is the one spiking. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| ZFS | Posted 9/29/2008 2:04:13 PM | message detail |
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Scorpion not doing as well as I thought he would with the after school vote, but good enough. --- Kept you waiting, huh? |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 9/29/2008 2:05:20 PM | message detail |
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What we've learned: - Gordon has come a VERY long way over the years. - Scorpion has an excellent ASV - Balthier is not as trash as we thought he was --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 2:06:38 PM | message detail |
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I think another big surprise here is Big Daddy. I can't see that dude
much above the fodder line. Scorpion looks to really be tanking this
one. gotta see Sub. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| neonreaper | Posted 9/29/2008 2:06:49 PM | message detail |
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-2 normal hots dogs are a better choice than a single foot long --- If it ain't broke, break it |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 9/29/2008 2:08:20 PM | message detail |
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I think another big surprise here is Big Daddy. I can't see that
dude much above the fodder line. Scorpion looks to really be tanking
this one. gotta see Sub. I'm starting to reconsider Sub advancing past round 1... --- Bacon, please just give me purgatory already. MyWorldisCrono has already been suspended for 7 days, the length of purg. |
| ZFS | Posted 9/29/2008 2:09:30 PM | message detail |
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Sub-Zero ain't losing to Marcus Fenix. --- Kept you waiting, huh? |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 2:09:48 PM | message detail |
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Scorpion up 85 votes in 15 minutes. not expecting a comeback here! --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 2:10:01 PM | message detail |
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Spiking and dropping off are irrelevant. People said it 9000 times in
the Kefka/Vercetti. "Vercetti dropped off Kefka looked constant" Just
look at the percentage here. Gordon drops 0.01% four times in a row,
spikes and chops a little off the lead, stalls. It's just not
realistic. It really doesn't matter because I don't like his chances of winning at all but eh. The signs are there... it's not like every unexpected close match has people saying this. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 2:10:39 PM | message detail |
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hey now, Fenix beat Ocelot who was equal to Pac-Man who Scorpion crushed in 2002 and oh god what am I doing --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/29/2008 2:10:50 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, this is starting to look less likely. Less likely that Gordon's cheating and more likely that Scorpion is! --- CB7 Score: 36/44 English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| Electroplankton | Posted 9/29/2008 2:12:11 PM | message detail |
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http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/edgeworth_blue.png http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/edgeworth_yellow.png http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/edgeworth_pink.png http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/edgeworth_orange.png awww yeah --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 2:26:35 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2896&num=4 http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2911&num=4 http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2894&num=4 http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2910&num=4 Scorpion won't die off with stronger competition in the poll, but it's not going to do him any favors. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 2:31:27 PM | message detail |
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Hack hack - spike - hack hack - spike. I was going to call for it next update but Gordon jumped the gun. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/29/2008 2:32:45 PM | message detail |
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What exactly are you trying to prove there? A poll with Mega Man, Samus, and Yoshi won't do anyone
any favors. Scorpion is weaker than all three of those characters and
he still managed 17%. How was that exactly a bad showing? If all
characters were the same strength, you'd expect 25%. 17% against 3
stronger characters (2 much stronger) is actually pretty good. And I like how you omitted Sub-Zero's third match when he too was the weakest character in the poll and still performed respectably. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 2:33:45 PM | message detail |
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Just saying, MK characters are not the type to have a dedicated fanbase
to support them. Scorpion isn't going to do better next round. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 2:34:17 PM | message detail |
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I was actually really impressed with Scorpion in that Samus match. 17%
is no joke against stiff competition like that, SFF or not. He almost beat Yoshi. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 2:35:07 PM | message detail |
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Who has suffering from 3-way Nintendo SFF/LFF. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/29/2008 2:37:35 PM | message detail |
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But you haven't exactly shown anything showing that they lost more
percentage than any other character would with stronger characters
entering the poll. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 2:38:04 PM | message detail |
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And really, you guys are over thinking Big Daddy. If he's casual bait and is hurting Scorpion, Falco and Vincent are going to hurt him even more next round. If he isn't casual bait, then he's LFFing Gordon a bit, and Scorpion still loses next round. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 2:39:45 PM | message detail |
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But you haven't exactly shown anything showing that they lost more
percentage than any other character would with stronger characters
entering the poll. Pretty sure Scorpion's X-stat based on that match is much lower than his X-stat based on his previous matches. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/29/2008 2:41:13 PM | message detail |
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Samus and Mega Man are wayyy stronger than Scorpion. Yet he still got 17%. He's only supposed to get around 30% against Samus alone. Anyways, this isn't even worth arguing anymore. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 2:41:19 PM | message detail |
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Falco and Vincent are not "X-Box day vote" casual. I think Scorpion
holds up better against them than Big Daddy. That being said I like
Gordon next round for now. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 2:46:07 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/48?input_values=LFFed+Samus+%3D+39%0D%0ALFFed+Mega+Man+%3D+37%0D%0ALFFed+Yoshi+%3D+29%0D%0AScorpion+%3D+27 http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/48?input_values=Samus+%3D+41%0D%0AFrog+%3D+23%0D%0ASFFed+Midna+%3D+19%0D%0AScorpion+%3D+27 About lines up with what I'd expect for their values and the two polls in question. Scorpion didn't change. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Electroplankton | Posted 9/29/2008 2:50:26 PM | message detail |
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KP YOU ARENT ON AIM GET ON AIM --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 2:50:57 PM | message detail |
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Drop drop - SPIKE - Drop drop - SPIKE I swear it's like clockwork now. Obv stuffing on Gordon's end imhhho. The pattern makes no sense yet it's still a pattern. Scumtell. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 2:52:06 PM | message detail |
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wait, are you using the Mega Man match to argue against Scorpion? that makes no sense. it was his best match, arguably, getting that close to Yoshi. I think Nintendo/Nintendo/pseudo-Nintendo/Scorpion probably helped him out a bit there, though. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/29/2008 2:55:29 PM | message detail |
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And really, you guys are over thinking Big Daddy. If he's casual bait and is hurting Scorpion, Falco and Vincent are going to hurt him even more next round. If he isn't casual bait, then he's LFFing Gordon a bit, and Scorpion still loses next round. Or Big Daddy is doing nothing to either one, and Scorpion still beats Gordon. That's on the table, isn't it? Also, I don't know why Scorpion's 3rd round match last year was bad. I was actually rather impressed. All three of those characters are another step or two above him, and he still got 17%. And while I'm kinda wishing I had Falco in my bracket now, it's more about what he did yesterday than what Scorpion and/or Gordon aren't doing right now. Balthier's performance makes no sense, unless you throw in that good ol' NewSquareFAQs boost, and then we're all good! And look at that Big Daddy Day Vote! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 2:57:16 PM | message detail |
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I really think Nintendo LFF is overrated though. I'm confident in
saying at least 95% of the site has played a game with Yoshi, Samus, or
Mega Man in it. For smaller fanbases like FF7 it'll have a big effect,
but the company Nintendo? They don't hurt each other significantly...
and I think Scorpion still managing to lose to Yoshi there helps
support that idea more than anything. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Midget_Fetish | Posted 9/29/2008 2:57:49 PM | message detail |
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I think the site's opinion of FFXII in general may have shifted - FFX
was really popular in 2002 and 2003, right? well now Tidus is losing to
Vivi. I mean, I dunno, but maybe FFXII was disappointing at first and now people have realized it was actually pretty decent or something. --- SensiShadeSlaye Hey, you. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/29/2008 3:00:02 PM | message detail |
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Last Place Factor probably hurt Scorpion as much as Nintendo LFF helped
him. Look at KOS-MOS: she didn't gain relative to Megaman when
Diablo/Arthas were replaced by Yoshi/Knuckles. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 40/44 --- T-3 (30 way) Bracket: Scorpion > Balthier --- Vote: Balthier |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 3:02:16 PM | message detail |
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Look at KOS-MOS: she didn't gain relative to Megaman when Diablo/Arthas were replaced by Yoshi/Knuckles. Or maybe that's another thing supporting that Nintendo is too big to substantially LFF --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 3:08:38 PM | message detail |
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Sense a Gordon spike next update n_n --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 3:11:57 PM | message detail |
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Oh, sure... go against me the time I actually remember to call for it.
Screw you, Gordon! (it'll happen next update I was off one!) --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Panthera | Posted 9/29/2008 3:13:43 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3255&type=1&seconds=60&max=0 I like that one completely random update Balthier won around 3am. It's as if, for one update only, he decided he would be the guy everyone expected him to be going into last year. --- A season of our stolen youth shall teach old hearts to break ~Primordial-The Coffin Ships |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/29/2008 3:13:59 PM | message detail |
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Gordon not cheating confirmed. --- CB7 Score: 36/44 English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/29/2008 3:14:15 PM | message detail |
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Chart from yesterday's match: Time | Falco | GlaDOS | Vincent | Wander PHV | 27.96% | 23.43% | 40.77% | 7.84% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 24.45% | 21.46% | 45.92% | 8.17% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 25.08% | 19.42% | 47.52% | 7.98% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 28.95% | 19.24% | 44.66% | 7.15% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 26.79% | 19.00% | 46.98% | 7.24% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 24.94% | 19.61% | 48.13% | 7.32% | (22:00-24:00) GlaDOS and Falco have quite the Power Hour, and Vincent sure doesn't. That late night/early morning vote is Vincent time though, while Falco has a great day vote and a bad first night vote. GlaDOS doesn't have the patterns of a joke character. She's pretty consistent all around, though a little weaker during the day. Wander's bad, no matter what time it is. Yesterday's stats: Vincent Valentine – 50.00% Falco Lombardi – 37.00% GlaDOS – 30.46% Wander – 14.12% --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/29/2008 3:20:21 PM | message detail |
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And I gotta say: We got wayyyyy too many factors being thrown around.
Hardcore fighting game fan factor? Casual bait factor? I doubt hardly
any of these account for anything too significant. We'd never consider
anything like these things in a one-on-one match, I doubt. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| transience | Posted 9/29/2008 3:21:55 PM | message detail |
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yeah, I think we're overanalyzing. last place factor? I mean, come on.
without Last Place Factor Big Daddy would be in first here! --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/29/2008 3:23:15 PM | message detail |
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CWBHF strikes again. --- CB7 Score: 36/44 English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
