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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:37:31 PM | message detail

_Hogger_ (#448)
I've never understood Crono's strength. Other well known RPG icons from SNES era do crap. Hell, second tier Crono Trigger characters like Frog and Magus far outdo Kefka and Cecil. What exactly is it about Chrono Trigger that makes Crono be at noble 9 level when other SNES rpg characters are low midcard or fodder?


They look like Goku.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/29/2008 9:38:27 PM | message detail
well it took 2 years but crono is finally doing something impressive

meaning he gets wrecked once the sun comes up and bleeds percentage and ends up looking bad so we can go "that's our crono!"
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Amaterasu/Crono/Frank/Kaim - Bracket: Crono > Ammy - Vote: Ammy (38/48)
redrocket | Posted 9/29/2008 9:38:32 PM | message detail
Toriyama VS Amano

really now...

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:39:05 PM | message detail
Dammit Frank double Kaim already so I can go to bed.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/29/2008 9:39:53 PM | message detail
Frank West not only covers wars. He enjoys doubling obscure jrpg characters.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:40:53 PM | message detail
Sweet, Frank's doubling Kaim by a comfortable margin.

That's it for me. Here's hoping Frank can stretch this into a tripling!
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:40:55 PM | message detail
....that's better Crono..

....poor Kaim, another sub 7% update >_>
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/29/2008 9:41:12 PM | message detail
I've noticed whenever Crono takes a huge chunk of percentage, it's always at Kaim's expense. Is he actually SFFing the loser?
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trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 9:41:15 PM | message detail
gogo Crono. I'm thinking he falls back to about 48, but if he can soar for the next few hours maybe he can do something.

hey Leon, if you read this can you post Frog's updates? I missed those.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/29/2008 9:41:17 PM | message detail
Ladies and gents, Kaim Argonar. A character whose only claim to fame will be being doubled by Frank West.

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red sox 777 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:41:18 PM | message detail
Ah, that's much better Crono! Get more updates like that.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 42/48 --- T-20 (104 way)
Bracket: Crono > Amaterasu --- Vote: Crono
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/29/2008 9:41:39 PM | message detail
I've never understood Crono's strength. Other well known RPG icons from SNES era do crap. Hell, second tier Crono Trigger characters like Frog and Magus far outdo Kefka and Cecil. What exactly is it about Chrono Trigger that makes Crono be at noble 9 level when other SNES rpg characters are low midcard or fodder?


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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2008 9:44:57 PM | message detail
Chrono Trigger is a very easily accessible and awesome RPG with great visuals and character design.

I'm not surprised he does better than FF4/6 characters, but I am surprised as to how much those guys suck. The fact that Marle would probably beat Terra/Celes in a fight is greatly disturbing to me.
_Hogger_ | Posted 9/29/2008 9:45:08 PM | message detail
Is he actually SFFing the loser?

Why wouldn't he? they are both jrpg characters.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:46:05 PM | message detail
Why wouldn't he? they are both jrpg characters.

Because SFF implies a character has a fanbase.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2008 9:47:07 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-rDuve72I&feature=related
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/29/2008 9:47:59 PM | message detail
Well, I nominated Kaim, and Chrono Trigger is my favorite game.

Plus the fact that Hironobu Sakaguchi made both games shows that there will be some overlapping fanbase.
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:49:14 PM | message detail
I highly doubt there's any significant degree of SFF between Crono and Kaim.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:49:28 PM | message detail
I nominated Tingle and Secret of Mana is my favorite game.



fun fact
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:50:18 PM | message detail
Sword SFF.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/29/2008 9:50:29 PM | message detail
I highly doubt there's any significant degree of SFF between Crono and Kaim.

I would have voted for Kaim if Crono wasn't in the poll. I know thats only one person, but for a JRPG fan who played both games (Lost Odyssey is the best selling jrpg of this generation, so its got fans), most would go for Crono I'd assume.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2008 9:52:20 PM | message detail
I highly doubt there's any significant degree of SFF between Crono and Kaim.

Well... Albion likes Chrono Trigger and Lost Odyssey... I like Chrono Trigger and Lost Odyssey.... transience likes Chrono Trigger and Lost Odyssey....

*looks at Kaim's vote totals*

I mean, seriously. How many fans do you think he has? If us three also like Crono, there's some serious ****ing SFF going on there.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:52:36 PM | message detail
(Lost Odyssey is the best selling jrpg of this generation, so its got fans

but that's like saying... "Wario Land is the best selling Virtual Boy game, so its got fans"

there just aren't popular JRPGs yet this gen.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 9:53:00 PM | message detail
I'll vote for Crono over Kaim, too. but I don't think it's a very significant amount or anything that do that - I noted this last week and a few people were like WHAT THAT'S DUMB and I can see why they'd react that way, but LO is meant to be a throwback RPG from the guy who saved Square. I can see why there'd be some overlap, but it's pretty small most likely. it's not like Kaim would be competing with Frank West with Mega Man in the poll instead.
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Lopen | Posted 9/29/2008 9:53:19 PM | message detail
I would have voted Crono if Kaim wasn't in the poll, amazing thing.

I haven't even played Lost Odyssey and it's getting rSFF. Kaim's hurting Crono obviously.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2008 9:54:02 PM | message detail
Chrono Trigger is my favourite RPG

Lost Odyssey is probably my least favourite.

yes, it was worse than Final Fantasy 9
HaRRicH | Posted 9/29/2008 9:54:24 PM | message detail
Whether there's SFF or not, there's not even a point to discuss it. Even with considering SFF, only extreme cases will make a character seem less than half as strong as it should...double Kaim right now and he's still losing to Frank West. If people are still sketchy on the idea of Crono SFF'ing Zidane even a little years ago, people need to chill out about whether or not Crono is SFF'ing Kaim.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2008 9:55:28 PM | message detail
What the hell Harrich, way to come in and sober up my fun. Jeeze thanks.

*goes to bed*
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:55:33 PM | message detail
it's not like Kaim would be competing with Frank West with Mega Man in the poll instead.

Kaim would get second with Mega Man in the poll

that darn crazy Capcom SFF


for sure
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/29/2008 9:55:58 PM | message detail
Looking through some other sources, yeah, you're right. There probably is some SFF going between these guys.

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/29/2008 9:58:46 PM | message detail
Haha...I'm sorry. Here's a pity vote for Kaim to make up for it mnm!
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__hiei__ | Posted 9/29/2008 10:06:29 PM | message detail
56% update for Crono
red sox 777 | Posted 9/29/2008 10:07:12 PM | message detail
Power Hour over, and Crono gets a 56% update!
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 42/48 --- T-20 (104 way)
Bracket: Crono > Amaterasu --- Vote: Crono
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2008 10:07:55 PM | message detail
And once again, Crono/Vincent looks to be a very interesting match.

Shame Ryu beats out both of them.
Keno316 | Posted 9/29/2008 10:12:20 PM | message detail
Shame Ryu beats out both of them.


Surely you meant L-BLOCK beats out both of them.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/29/2008 10:19:11 PM | message detail
how about that 5.34% update

go go Kaim
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/29/2008 10:36:20 PM | message detail
Crono is going crazy. 51.53% now..
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__hiei__ | Posted 9/29/2008 10:37:40 PM | message detail
Well, Crono's pretty much the god of night vote
RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/29/2008 10:38:28 PM | message detail
Slowest. Stats topic at beginning of match AND end of topic. Ever.

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wavedash101 | Posted 9/29/2008 10:40:34 PM | message detail
LO is a popular JRPG unless your definition is FF level sales. The game is one of only a handful of JRPG not named Pokemon, DQ, FF, KH, or Mario that will sell one million copies, and its one of the few with a majority of the sales coming from the west

Of course this doesnt excuse Kaim being crap


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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2008 10:47:02 PM | message detail
Even if you liked the game, Kaim is one of the blankest, most useless main characters ever.

The silent protagonist Crono has more emotion than Kaim.
_Hogger_ | Posted 9/29/2008 10:48:12 PM | message detail
I really wish Jansen got into this instead. He woulda did just as badly, but at least he was a GOOD character.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2008 10:50:26 PM | message detail
Jansen? You mean the dude with the incredibly forced and unfunny sense of humour?

The game didn't stop throwing "YOU SHOULD BE LAUGHING AT THIS IDIOT" in your face the entire time, and it was painfully awkward.
Tohoya | Posted 9/29/2008 10:50:29 PM | message detail
Kaim is Altair 2.0

you just watch


lololol
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/29/2008 10:52:15 PM | message detail
Kaim is Jade 2.0

you just watch


FIX'D
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/29/2008 10:52:38 PM | message detail
If we get another Altair, aka new character who does great without many expectations, I think it would be Nero if anything. Not enough people are giving him support to do well, imho.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2008 11:00:34 PM | message detail
Nero can't really do much damage. IIRC, Olimar is the favourite in that match, but that's it.
_Hogger_ | Posted 9/29/2008 11:01:11 PM | message detail
I would be absolutely SHOCKED if Nero doesn't beat freaking OLIMAR.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/29/2008 11:01:21 PM | message detail
Crono > Vincent
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/29/2008 11:01:33 PM | message detail
tbqh
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