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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 578

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2008 7:17:35 PM | message detail
Gordon Freeman Occasionally Wins?

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
therealmnm | Posted 9/28/2008 7:29:18 PM | message detail
whoops for people that have you ignored I guess?
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Applekidjosh | Posted 9/28/2008 7:29:54 PM | message detail
XD mnm that's an interesting point
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Lopen | Posted 9/28/2008 7:32:42 PM | message detail
Eh, let em figure it out... a bunch of people ignoring BT because they can't handle his occasional idiocy doesn't mean he can't make topics.
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/28/2008 7:33:33 PM | message detail
XD @ people that ignored you is right.

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therealmnm | Posted 9/28/2008 7:34:08 PM | message detail
Which is why I say whoops! Really, the only person I have on ignore is SDR, and that's because I literally can't stand seeing his topics.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/28/2008 7:35:12 PM | message detail
It will be interesting to see who doesn't show up and who shows up late.

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Lopen | Posted 9/28/2008 7:35:36 PM | message detail
Yeap, same here mnm.

BT has the worst tastes of anything ever and makes some annoying statements often but he has some valid points in that mess of nonsense too from time to time.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
Lopen | Posted 9/28/2008 7:36:24 PM | message detail
Also, seeing as Ulti is one of the people who have him ignored (and he loves stating this fact oh so much) I sense impending drama, woo hoo.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/28/2008 7:37:27 PM | message detail
Har har I don't have you ignored.

Woo.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/28/2008 7:38:23 PM | message detail
Well, at any rate this topic shall simply be about Zero if nobody else shows up.

ZERO KICKS ASS!
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Lopen | Posted 9/28/2008 7:39:04 PM | message detail
Hayabusa > Zero in R1 believe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2008 7:40:31 PM | message detail
Get that terrible pick out of my topic
smitelf | Posted 9/28/2008 7:41:39 PM | message detail
I don't get why people have BT on ignore anyway. He's not that bad at all.
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NotTerrafire | Posted 9/28/2008 7:41:56 PM | message detail
would you prefer dedededededede > pit?
red sox 777 | Posted 9/28/2008 7:42:12 PM | message detail
Gordon will return to his tradition of losing this year......by losing to Big Daddy!
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Yesmar | Posted 9/28/2008 7:42:13 PM | message detail
I don't have *anyone* on ignore! Now I can see all the topics!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/28/2008 7:42:32 PM | message detail
BT is bad but not bad enough to ignore.
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Falco/GlaDOS/Vincent/Wander - Bracket: Vincent > Falco - Vote: Falco (32/40)
XxSoulxX | Posted 9/28/2008 7:43:14 PM | message detail
I'm boycotting this topic until it closes.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2008 7:43:29 PM | message detail
So is anybody else feeling Zero > Snake?

Because I sure am!
Ed Bellis | Posted 9/28/2008 7:43:32 PM | message detail
Tagging this so it shows up in my AMP.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/28/2008 7:43:57 PM | message detail
This is gonna end in tears, across the board
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2008 7:47:18 PM | message detail
I still don't understand why people would want to ignore me. Sure I can be a little obnoxious when I'm right about something people called me an idiot for thinking, but I can admit when I'm wrong.
Lopen | Posted 9/28/2008 7:47:35 PM | message detail
I don't get why people have BT on ignore anyway. He's not that bad at all.

Yeah. I feel the same... when I said "idiotic stuff" it was mostly to do with him hammering the same damn upset down my throat about 47000 times. And his absurd statements of bad taste like "The Boss is a worthless character" (I don't even like her and I know this is wrong) and "GlaDOS is Navi" (I haven't even played the game and I know this is wrong)

But other than that the guy makes good points and I don't really see the reason to ignore him. Plenty of people on this board have atrocious tastes.

I've got Snake > Zero how bout that suck it down Zero fanboys your king is here.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2008 7:48:48 PM | message detail
Remember that I wouldn't be hammering that upset down your throat if not for all the "How stupid do you have to be to think that?" I got in the weeks leading up to it.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/28/2008 7:49:28 PM | message detail
Yes you would.
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Lopen | Posted 9/28/2008 7:50:49 PM | message detail
No one called Kratos over Kirby stupid.
No one called Master Chief to where you had him stupid, just somewhat unlikely.
No one called Ryu to the finals stupid, just somewhat unlikely.

Try again.
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Lopen | Posted 9/28/2008 7:51:46 PM | message detail
Er... quarterfinals last year, that is.

Your pick of Ryu to the finals this year is stupid but I support you 100%.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2008 7:51:49 PM | message detail
Pikachu?
Lopen | Posted 9/28/2008 7:53:25 PM | message detail
They called Pikachu stupid. You win that round.

I'm saying that's 1/5 things hammered down our throat.

Oh and no one called Marcus Fenix stupid either, just banking on an unknown.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/28/2008 7:53:50 PM | message detail
psst i'm making the next topic because bt has me ignored psst
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2008 7:54:57 PM | message detail
Pikachu is the only one I really shove down throats since all of my other dark horses had some people behind them.

But I digress.

Something I just noticed, there are 5 Orange Box characters in the contest this year. What's up with that?
Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2008 7:55:58 PM | message detail
Division 3: Round 1 - Match 12 – Balthier Bunansa vs. Big Daddy vs. Gordon Freeman vs. Scorpion

Moltar’s Analysis

Balthier
Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy XII
2007 Results: 2nd Place in Round 1 vs. Ada, Frank and Jade
4th Place in Round 2 vs. Dante, Amaterasu and Ada

Flopthier, how do you lose to ADA WONG goddam

Big Daddy
Game/Series Known From: Bioshock
2007 Results: N/A

The scary daddy from one of the best games of 2007 makes his contest debut

Gordon
Game/Series Known From: Half-Life
2007 Results: 2nd Place in Round 1 vs. Duke, Ike and Guybrush
3rd Place in Round 2 vs. Sonic, Sub-Zero and Duke

The lovable loser is turning into a lovable winner!

Scorpion
Game/Series Known From: Mortal Kombat
2007 Results: 1st Place in Round 1 vs. Midna, Kratos A. and Agent 47
2nd Place in Round 2 vs. Samus, Frog and Midna
4th Place in Round 3 vs. Samus, Mega Man and Yoshi

Get over here!

Well this is an…interesting match. For one, it’s one of the few matches with no Nintendo characters.

Scorpion looks good for first. We saw him walk all over his Round 1 fourpack of Midna (speaking of flops…), Kratos Aurion and Agent 47. This fourpack should turn out to be stronger, but nothing Scorpion should have a problem with.

Big Daddy is a nice upset pick for second. I mean, his opponents are Gordon Freeman (Never Wins) and the biggest flop of last year, Balthier. Bioshock, as I said before, was one of the best games of 2007, and GameFAQs received the game fairly well. I wouldn’t be shocked if he pulled off the upset, but I don’t expect it.

I’m done putting any stock in Balthier after he ruined me last year. Combine that with Gordon looking a lot better contest wise since Half-Life 2 came out, and he’s almost guaranteed to take second. Gordon Freeman wins again, can’t believe this horrible trend is continuing!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Scorpion > Gordon

Moltar’s Prediction is: Scorpion: 33% - Gordon: 28% - Balthier: 20% - Big Daddy: 19%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

The only guarantee in this one is that Scorpion is going to advance. Who knows what happens between Balthier, Big Daddy, and Gordon Freeman. My first instinct was that Balthier is a clear second, but thinking about it how badly he did last year (losing to Ada Wong is pretty inexcusable for a FF character), Freeman didn't sound too bad.

The question mark in this one is Big Daddy. Bioshock was a big hit here and abroad, doing well in that Game of the Year poll and sales, and Big Daddy no doubt has an 'iconic' look to him. He's distinctive - it's hard to confuse him with anything else. But, the problem is that he's not so much a character as he is a 'random' enemy. These things are big, menacing, almost like bosses if you choose to encounter them), and certainly memorable, but how many people care about them? Probably not too many.

This more than likely comes down to Balthier and Gordon. As bad as it is to trust in Freeman winning a match, Balthier hasn't given a whole lot of reason to support him either. I think The Orange Box came out this past year, too, which has been something of a hit, so Freeman could maybe get a boost from more exposure there. Throw in the fact that he a more impressive showing last year and Gordon's the way to go.

Prediction: Scorpion - 34% ; Gordon Freeman - 28% ; Balthier - 23% ; Big Daddy - 15%
Bracket: Scorpion > Freeman
Vote: Balthier



Yoblazer’s Analysis

Scorpion. Gordon Freeman. Big Daddy. Balthier "It's a Bonanza!" Bunansa.
Lopen | Posted 9/28/2008 7:56:13 PM | message detail
Speak for your own throat I'm still choking up bits of Blades of Chaos and Hadoukens.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2008 7:56:15 PM | message detail
...I don't trust these guys. Seriously, there's just something "off" here. Judging by any recent stats and a bit of common sense, the two winners seem clear as day, but I can't shake the feeling that something weird's going on behind the scenes. Ah well, it's probably nothing. Let's take a look at this rather ordinary trio+1 of
competitors.

Scorpion, our longtime undead ninja friend and shouter of phrases awesome, is the comfy favorite. After some time off, he promptly returned last year and proved he didn't miss a step. Scorpion crushed the Board 8 favorite, Midna, in the first round, before easily disposing both Midna and Frog in his next match. He's back this year, and he's up against very beatable competition (that won't challenge him for the all-important casual vote), so he'll be on his way to another easy win, assuredly.

The only guy with a shot of finishing anywhere near Scorpion's mark is Gordon Freeman, and boy, what a long way he's come. The Half-Life star is no longer cursed by his status as these contests' most lovable loser. Yes, by virtue of wins and respectable performances over the past few years, Gordy has improved his reputation by leaps and bounds, and the immensely popular Orange Box (released late last year), should help him maintain his newfound midcard status for a while.

One potential disadvantage for Mr. Freeman is the possibility of a fanbase split with Big Daddy, one of the defining enemies from last year's Bioshock. Personally, I'm expecting very little from Big Daddy. Bioshock, while very critically acclaimed, didn't make much waves on GameFAQs, posting uninspiring numbers during the Game of the Year voting. In addition, the Daddy is... well... just an ordinary enemy. I get the feeling ordinary enemies wouldn't do well in these things unless they're instantly recognizable or are clearly intended as joke entries, and Big Daddy is neither. If there is a fanbase split with Gordon, it should be negligible at best.

And then there is Balthier. It's a Bonanza with Balthier, alright! If I were to describe this match as a poll between Scorpion, Gordon Freeman, an enemy from a somewhat niche FPS, and the fan favorite from a multi-million selling PS2 Final Fantasy game, who would you take? You'd take Balthier, and you'd burn your bracket a week later. Trust me. We all did it. At first glance, Balthier has all the tools of someone who should excel in these contests. He's from a Final Fantasy game. It's on the PS2. It has sold millions. It was the first real Final Fantasy game in five years. He is clearly the fan favorite from this game. Dude, this sounds like Auron. He'll, at the very least, it's Vivi. Unfortunately, Balthier crashed through the bottom level everyone gave him and proceeded to dig underground for a few miles (you know, for good measure). He lost to Ada Wong last year. Twice. In the process, he proved that absolutely no one gives two flying craps about FFXII or anyone from it.

I tried to convince myself that Balthier might do better because he's the only RPG character in the poll and because of that tiny Gordon/Daddy split. But he won't. He'll suck dingleberries yet again. I've been perpetually lowering my prediction percentage for this guy all day, and it still seems too high! Why, this is a... it's a... IT'S A BONANZA!!!

Balthier Bunansa - 21%
Big Daddy - 16%
Gordon Freeman - 28%
Scorpion - 35%
gotspork | Posted 9/28/2008 7:56:55 PM | message detail
yeah, I did his once and it got modded. I think it was an unfair moderation
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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/28/2008 7:57:02 PM | message detail
Honestly, I still don't get how Balthier was as bad as he was.

I mean, I hate FFXII and all, but it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2008 7:57:03 PM | message detail
Lopen’s Analysis

This is the kind of match that looks tough on paper, until you read the page where Balthier lost to Ada Wong in a rout last year. I'm thinking there might be some sorta... crazy... Big Daddy/GFNW overlap, but even with that, I'm thinking Gordon has this well under control. Only, however, because Scorpion is strong enough to waylay this pack... otherwise I'd take Balthier to have a decent chance, yes you heard me, a decent chance at beating Gordon Freeman, last year's performances and X-Stats be damned. I also vaguely considered Big Daddy... but I've gotta figure the face of Half Life destroys the face of Bioshock around here, and, of course, Scorpion pushing %s down for GFNW to do well. Big Daddy, man, that may be the best name for an entrant ever-- but I'm going on a tangent again.

This match will help in proving one thing: The myth of Gordon Freeman. Gordon ain't even remotely strong, he just overperforms against the big boys. Is it any coincidence his x-stat value keeps getting higher with every stronger opponent he loses to? Think of him like Master Chief but with a lower starting point and a lower vote ceiling that prevents him from beating things that aren't fodder.

So that means, in 1v1 competition, the biggest game he'll be hunting is the likes of Phoenix Wright... but here? Here he's good to get second place over more worthy opponents with ease. People say his R1-R2 performances (losing to Duke vs beating him by a good 6-8%) last year was because of the Orange Box? Yeah, may be part of it... but I have a feeling that it's mostly him rising to the occasion when the opposition gets strong.

Now, you wonder... how will this match prove it? Simple: If Gordon really is as strong as the stats say he is, he'll be able to hang at least somewhat close to Scorpion. If he isn't, Scorpion will kick his ass by a good 8-10%. Are we agreed? Try not to forget this match, XxSoulxX. I will say that "the myth of Gordon Freeman" makes him a bit of a threat next round, but that's next round. Not now.

Lopen's prediction:
Scorpion – 36.15%
Gordon Freeman – 26.55%
Balthier – 23.45%
Big Daddy – 13.85%



Transience’s Analysis

I *hate* this match, and it's not even because of the Freeman fad. I just.. feel every choice is wrong.

Scorpion almost definitely has first here. he rocked Midna last year en route to burying Frog -- well, comparatively anyway. he even did all right against three heavyweights in Mega Man, Samus and Yoshi.

but second... blah. the consensus pick is Freeman because he's the least worst choice -- Balthier bombed last year and uh Big Daddy woo yay. I think Freeman is a pretty good pick here because The Orange Box has had a chance to introduce him to a whole new group of fans -- I would argue that this is actually more important than Snake was to Brawl because you're talking about two entire different breeds of gamers as opposed to crossing over into a Nintendo game. obviously it won't matter as much as Snake's did, but between being a console game now and the huge effect Portal has had on the gaming community (take a look at how a disembodied voice is doing today), Freeman should see a pretty nice boost. he already saw one last year in round 2, coming pretty close to Sub-Zero, and Portal hadn't really had a chance to permeate the gaming community yet.

but Balthier, man, he sticks out like a sore thumb. two FPS characters and one of the ultimate casual draws in MK vs. a Final Fantasy character. Balthier's also kinda like Zidane - he can't actually be as weak as he seems! Square's looked pretty decent this year too. seriously, you expect me to trust anything involving a Gordon Freeman victory?

well.. I don't. but I'm sticking with it because you don't lose to friggin' Ada Wong twice and expect me to pick you again. at least Zidane lost respectably.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/28/2008 7:57:04 PM | message detail
the point is you shouldnt shove **** down anybody's throats period. it's ****ing stupid and doesnt make you any less of an idiot.
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Falco/GlaDOS/Vincent/Wander - Bracket: Vincent > Falco - Vote: Falco (32/40)
Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2008 7:57:24 PM | message detail
BALTHIER YOU SUCK BAD
GORDON FREEMAN, THREE STRAIGHT WINS
UNIVERSE BOOM SMASH

whoa what a haiku can you tell I've been driving for 20 hours over the last 48

transience's prediction: Scorpion with 39.51%, Gordon Freeman with 25.44%, Balthier with 22.11%, Big Daddy with 12.94%



Ngamer’s Analysis

...holy smokes! Maybe it's unfair to call this a true "bombing" for Vincent, since even though I expected 50% from him some of that can be explained by GlaDOS eating up more percentage than we thought. But there's no way to discount what a great showing Falco is having here- I always thought he and Fox would have some serious power if they could stop drawing Nintendo opponents. Bring on Sora v Fox!

Today we should be in for another good one. Three characters that are at least somewhat comparable in strength plus a newcomer who should have a pretty wide range. Let's jump right into it!


Last Known Values
Scorpion - 26.73% (2007)
Gordon - 19.89% (2007)
Balthier - 17.09% (2007)
Big Daddy - new

I'd never bought into Mortal Kombat too much in these Contests, but between that upset of Master Chief and how good both Subby and Scorp looked last season, they've made a believer. Actually pretty much everything connected with fighting games had solid showings in '07, and I don't see any reason for that to change this time around, so even though I don't think he's going to run away with this group as easily as some are predicting, I still can't see him being challenged for the win.

Big Daddy is one of our more exciting entrants IMO. Between the critical acclaim, Game of the Year awards, and the very positive reviews I've heard from most gamers, I'd have to imagine that Bioshock is going to have a strong core of support backing it all the way, much like GlaDOS did. Unlike GlaDOS, though, the big poppa ought to have considerable promise as a "joke character" on top of that. By joke I mean, his name is funny enough in itself, and then you look and its a giant mech kind of thing, whoa! Should have some decent casual appeal for those voters who don't feel strongly about any of the other choices (and considering Balthier and Gordon's past history, that could be quite a few!). I'm not going to do anything crazy and pick him for second outright, but heck, we've seen stranger things happen already this Contest.

Balthier was a flop in '07, I don't think anyone really denies that. He was supposed to be the next Auron, and instead looked like the next... uh, Cecil or something. And that was when FF12 was at its peak! Even so, I think he's going to have something of a chance here. Zack and Zidane have already impressed, and also, couldn't Daddy and Freeman share something of a fanbase? Moody, atmospheric, really good FPSes that are available on both the PC and the 360... I wouldn't call a huge overlap likely, but again, we've seen weirder things happen, and Gordon certainly has a history of allowing the slightest bumps in the road to throw him off course. Overall though, between the success of Portal and TF2 and the Orange Box helping HL2 reach something of a new audience, GF ought to have enough in the tank to pull this one out. So why can't I get rid of this nagging doubt?

Alright, but what happens when you translate those thoughts into numbers? With a little potting and stirring, THIS happens!

Scorpion - 35.32%
Gordon Freeman - 26.15%
Balthier Bunansa - 22.04%
Big Daddy - 16.49%

Gosh, do I ever feel nervous about those numbers though...

Ngamer Says: Scorpion > Gordon



Guest’s Analysis - Midget_Fetish

I wanna get one thing straight before you get into the meat of the writeup here - the result will be Scorpion > Gordon Freeman.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2008 7:58:19 PM | message detail
This is not the same Gordon Freeman that lost to such illustrious characters as Tina Armstrong and Max Payne - this guy took Ike and scored 38% on KHII Sora. He's legit.

And Scorpion? Scorpion, Subby, and Ryu are all main characters in fighting games. For whatever reason, these three have kicked it up a notch in 4 ways. Ryu beat Bowser handily twice last year, and Subby hung with Sora in his last match. Scorpion stayed within range of Yoshi in his last match as well - these guys are simply boosted.

Balthier sucks. He lost comfortably to Ada Wong, who got 20% on Samus. He's probably worth 13% on BL or something like that. He sucks. Don't worry about him.

So then you must be thinking, "Creepy guy with a midget fetish, why did you even bother giving a writeup if this match is so obvious?" The answer is simple, this match's token newcomer.

The Big Daddy.

People have been quick to completely ignore the Big Daddy as a competitor. Why? I'm not really sure. Maybe it's the name, maybe it's the fact he's a generic enemy. But for whatever reason, everyone has ignored the Big Daddy. They will be surprised.

The Big Daddy is the face of Bioshock. He's on the box art. He was in the commercial. You see him in the first five minutes of the game and he appears constantly throughout the game, and how you fight(or not fight) the Big Daddies are a big part of whether you'll beat the game or not.

But still, it's no big deal right? Bioshock's just another 360 shooter that nobody on GameFAQs will care about, right?

Well, I don't know. I don't have the drive to check and see if there's a poll suggesting this is correct or otherwise, but I do know this.

The main character of another generic 360 shooter(said with much tongue in cheek, by the way) happened to beat Kefka and Revolver Ocelot last year - the one and only Marcus Fenix.

He totally took my name, by the way.

But there's not much in saying all this. Scorpion still beats Freeman, who then beats Balthier and the Big Daddy. It's a pity Big Daddy didn't get put into a winnable bracket spot so I could bank on this upset. Oh well.

Percentages(which I am terrible at why did I enter the Oracle contest)
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Scorpion: 35%
Gordon Freeman: 29%
Big Daddy: 22%
Balthier Bunasa: 14%



Crew Consensus: Scorpion > Gordon because Balthier lost to ADA FREAKIN' WONG
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/28/2008 7:59:38 PM | message detail
GlaDOS is hanging on to 20% for dear life. CAN SHE DO IT?????!!!!!!!

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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/28/2008 8:00:18 PM | message detail
And Turtle put me on ignore for suggesting that Guybrush benefited from joke votes.

It wasn't even a topic of discussion, I just threw it out there.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2008 8:07:13 PM | message detail
BALTHIER YOU SUCK BAD
GORDON FREEMAN, THREE STRAIGHT WINS
UNIVERSE BOOM SMASH


But he lost in the second round last year!
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2008 8:19:28 PM | message detail
In gameplay, possibly. Too bad it's still 100% Japanese style though.

But gameplay is the important part, and after 15 years of playing the same kind of RPG, I welcome this change in direction. Probably why I hated Lost Odyssey so much.
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/28/2008 8:19:59 PM | message detail
I wish this contest would stop being boring already.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/28/2008 8:21:02 PM | message detail
I agree, we really need a super close match that we keep up with all day. We still haven't had one of those. Meta Knight/L Block and Arthas/Ike might fill that bill in D4, though.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/28/2008 8:23:24 PM | message detail

_Hogger_ (#047)
I agree, we really need a super close match that we keep up with all day. We still haven't had one of those. Meta Knight/L Block and Arthas/Ike might fill that bill in D4, though.


Or at least an unexpected upset we can all cheer for. But two divisions full of expected results? Christ, bring on the Female Villains Contest already.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/28/2008 8:23:32 PM | message detail
Marcus Fenix
Gordon Freeman
Duke Nukem
Commander Shepard

Who ya got?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 9/28/2008 8:23:43 PM | message detail
hooray getting the 500th post! First time I got it.
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