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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 577

KamikazePotato | Posted 9/28/2008 7:52:02 AM | message detail
I would sooner trust the 2k7 stats than the female bracket.

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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/28/2008 7:54:04 AM | message detail
red sox 777 (#349)
Zero Suit Samus.....no one really believes Tifa > Snake, right?

Nobody really believes that so many people can't connect a name to a face, right?
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 9/28/2008 7:54:05 AM | message detail
Zelda 4th strongest character. Yep.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2008 7:54:55 AM | message detail
Falco making a killing with the morning vote. Figures Portal would have the "strong beginning and then bleed percentage during the rest of the match" trend.

Vincent is holding up though. He hasn't fallen far from his peak point, so it looks like once this Falco morning vote is over, he'll get back in gear, which would be nice.
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Moltar Status: augh
Falco/GlaDOS/Vincent/Wander - Bracket: Vincent > Falco - Vote: GlaDOS (30/40)
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/28/2008 7:55:19 AM | message detail
Nobody really believes that so many people can't connect a name to a face, right?

Snaaaaake

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/28/2008 7:56:35 AM | message detail
And really, it isn't even about name recognition. A lot of Samus' votes come from her being perceived as stronger than the competition, and just the 'cool' factor of the Power Suit. Take that away and she's much weaker.

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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 9/28/2008 7:59:17 AM | message detail
I wonder how ZSS would do as a separate entity. I don't really want to take 2k6 on face value, but right around there with Tifa then? Obviously we don't know where X lies yet but maybe it'd be a bit like MM and X, assuming they aren't equal.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/28/2008 8:10:51 AM | message detail
Alright, since we all seem to be wondering whether Nintendo has decreased or Square increased or whatever, how do you think each Ninty/Square character has done compared to your expectations of them?


Really Impressed
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Zidane
Zack
Falco


Impressed
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Isaac
Zelda
Mudkip
Frog


About What I Expected
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Kefka
Marth
Luigi
Bowser
Sho
Neku
Samus
Ganondorf
Vincent


A Little Disappointing
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Link
Cecil
Mario
Tom Nook


Flop
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Wario
Lucario

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Bracket:
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chaosarcher07 | Posted 9/28/2008 8:15:03 AM | message detail
Generally I agree with that, but I wasn't really expecting a lot out of Wario myself so I wouldn't say he flopped.

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red sox 777 | Posted 9/28/2008 8:17:21 AM | message detail
Really Impressed
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Zidane

Impressed
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Zack
Falco
Isaac
Zelda
Mudkip

About What I Expected
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Wario
Marth
Luigi
Bowser
Sho
Mario
Samus
Ganondorf
Frog
Neku
Vincent

A Little Disappointing
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Link
Cecil
Kefka
Mario
Tom Nook

Flop
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Lucario
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 36/40 --- T-3 (45 way)
Bracket: Vincent > Falco --- Vote: Falco
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/28/2008 8:19:05 AM | message detail

KamikazePotato (#351)
I would sooner trust the 2k7 stats than the female bracket.


i personally think that's ridiculous. the female bracket is out of wonk in some areas but not all of them.

2k7 is just a crapshoot really.
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Falco/GlaDOS/Vincent/Wander - Bracket: Vincent > Falco - Vote: Falco (32/40)
charmander6000 | Posted 9/28/2008 8:30:41 AM | message detail
Lucario is the only that's really flopped IMO. Even Wario was able to destroy Cecil.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/28/2008 9:01:16 AM | message detail
Zack is the only character that really impressed me, and Lucario is the only true flop in my eyes.

Everyone else either slightly impressed/disappointed or did "just as planned".
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Moltar Status: augh
Falco/GlaDOS/Vincent/Wander - Bracket: Vincent > Falco - Vote: GlaDOS (30/40)
Yesmar | Posted 9/28/2008 9:09:41 AM | message detail

Nobody really believes that so many people can't connect a name to a face, right?


Well, then what's your explanation for Samus Vs. Tifa?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/28/2008 9:23:44 AM | message detail
You know what would've made the end of this division a lot more interesting? Switch Gordon and GlaDOS.

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Tohoya | Posted 9/28/2008 9:32:23 AM | message detail
I think this augurs well for portal, as GlaDOS is never actually referred to by name within the game, and the picture of her is borderline unrecognizable, and in any case, is only present for those who got to the end of the game, and even then, only for a few minutes. I imagine if she was called "That crazy computer **** from Portal" she'd be going even with Falco right now.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/28/2008 9:42:41 AM | message detail
Arthas > Pikachu IMHO
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ffmasterjose | Posted 9/28/2008 10:16:43 AM | message detail
Yeah, Lucario dropped the biggest Nintendo bomb yet this year. I was expecting Pikachu Very Lite, pfft.
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30/40 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Vincent Valentine > Falco Lombardi
Janus5000 | Posted 9/28/2008 10:25:48 AM | message detail
Ouch, Falco didn't have a very good night vote... which I guess is to be expected. Beating an FFVII character with the day vote is pretty impressive, though.

On a side note, I have 2000 karma. Wow.
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OneLessBracket | Posted 9/28/2008 10:27:23 AM | message detail
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smitelf | Posted 9/28/2008 10:39:43 AM | message detail
Really Impressed
Zack
Zidane
Mudkip

Impressed

Expected
Wario
Kefka
Marth
Isaac
Luigi
Roxas
Sho
Bowser
Geno
Zelda
Lloyd
Tom Nook
Samus
Ganondorf
Frog
Neku

Disappointing
Link
Mario

Flop
Cecil
Lucario
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/28/2008 10:41:26 AM | message detail
This is still so much better than I was expecting from GlaDOS. I'm feeling very good about the Cube's chances now. Very, very good.
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BesaidGuy | Posted 9/28/2008 10:43:30 AM | message detail
yeah

the fact that GlaDos is getting 20% in a poll with Falco and Vincent aint bad.

Don't get me wrong, Falco isn't anything beyond mid tier

and Vincent isn't really dominating like the rest of the upper echelon of FF7 characters do

but for a joke character who a lot of people didn't even know was involved in the game

20% is pretty good

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XxSoulxX | Posted 9/28/2008 10:46:01 AM | message detail
This is much better then I was expecting as well. I hope Falco wins next round just to bring GlaDOS higher.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/28/2008 10:46:04 AM | message detail
I'm starting to wonder if all these Tim ads for the TV show is gonna boost Tim.
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smitelf | Posted 9/28/2008 10:46:39 AM | message detail
Forgot to include characters from this match:

Very Impressed
Falco
GlaDOS

Flop
Vincent
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/28/2008 10:59:14 AM | message detail
the fact that GlaDos is getting 20% in a poll with Falco and Vincent aint bad.

Definitely. The fact that GlaDOS can muster 20% with her awful picture and this level of competition all but guarantees that WCC will easily eclipse that. Same core fanbase, much better picture, and clearly weaker competition (two of whom will share a bit of a fanbase split) - things are looking good for our angular friend.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/28/2008 11:00:29 AM | message detail

PartOfYourWorld (#377)
the fact that GlaDos is getting 20% in a poll with Falco and Vincent aint bad.

Definitely. The fact that GlaDOS can muster 20% with her awful picture and this level of competition all but guarantees that WCC will easily eclipse that. Same core fanbase, much better picture, and clearly weaker competition (two of whom will share a bit of a fanbase split) - things are looking good for our angular friend.


It's not that her picture is awful, it's that there's practically no way to get a GlaDOS picture.
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Today: Vincent > Falco | Tomorrow: Scorpion > Gordon Freeman
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/28/2008 11:01:25 AM | message detail
I understand that, but it's still a bad pic. WCC will look more appealing.
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hailEC | Posted 9/28/2008 11:01:53 AM | message detail
The next time I see someone refer to Glados with "bad pic" I'm going to rip a kittens head off with my teeth.

That's what Glados looks like. It's inherent strength takes into account her pic thats always going to be "what the hell is that thing."

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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/28/2008 11:03:18 AM | message detail
http://pds7.egloos.com/pds/200803/26/94/d0003794_47e921ec8f37c.jpg

GlaDOS woulda done better with this pic, though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/28/2008 11:03:25 AM | message detail
Yes. But it's still a bad pic (meaning there's no way she's getting picture support in the same way that a KOS-MOS or a... WEIGHTED COMPANION CUBE (!!!) would).
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hailEC | Posted 9/28/2008 11:05:04 AM | message detail
well falco sucks so nyuh
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/28/2008 11:06:58 AM | message detail
http://demiotakuism.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/glados.jpg

If glados got this pic, she'd be beating Falco easily.
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ZFS | Posted 9/28/2008 11:07:46 AM | message detail
uhh

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hailEC | Posted 9/28/2008 11:10:19 AM | message detail
cloud would beat link if he got this pic

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/LoveBasket2/kissme.jpg

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/28/2008 11:13:51 AM | message detail
Snake would beat everyone if he got this gif.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/Kusagari/snake-nothing.gif
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Tohoya | Posted 9/28/2008 11:24:49 AM | message detail
but for a joke character

You keep using this term. I do not think it means what you think it means
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2008 1:00:11 PM | message detail
Chart from yesterday's match:

Time | Frog | Ganondorf | KOS-MOS | Neku
PHV | 28.25% | 44.99% | 18.03% | 8.73% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 25.58% | 39.83% | 21.17% | 13.42% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 23.05% | 43.68% | 19.71% | 13.56% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 23.09% | 46.31% | 18.30% | 12.30% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 23.96% | 44.10% | 19.68% | 12.26% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 23.95% | 42.46% | 20.73% | 12.86% | (22:00-24:00)

The legendary Frog board vote strikes again! Though it's hard to say how much of that was due to the (lack of a) picture. Neku obviously suffered from it. I wonder he could've gotten close to 13% had there been a pic from the start. Pic seemed to help KOS-MOS, and Ganondorf plummeted once everyone remembered just how ugly he is. Seriously though, Nintendo's bad night vote strikes again! And it struck again for Falco, in case you're wondering! Impressive that Frog didn't lose any demographic to KOS-MOS. He wasn't even hurt that much by the day vote. As much as I hate to say it, it was a good showing by Ganondorf.

Yesterday's stats:

Ganondorf – 50.00%
Frog – 35.59%
KOS-MOS – 30.78%
Neku Sakuraba – 22.05%

For today's match, Falco and GlaDOS are doing much better than I figured, so I'll give Vincent a little benefit of the doubt. 45% is still pretty good, nevertheless. Poor Wander.

Vincent currently has 62.47% on Falco, 68.83% on GlaDOS, and 85.53% on Wander.

Falco has 57.02% on GlaDOS and 78.03% on Wander.

GlaDOS has 72.80% on Wander.

Fun Facts: Mario got 86.56% on Wander last year.

Vincent got 71.27% on Tails last year, which would imply GlaDOS > Tails. What does that mean for the Cube, who's in the same match with Tails this year?
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/28/2008 1:02:42 PM | message detail
I would say Tidus > DK right now considering how everything's been going. Joke characters and weak characters aren't doing very well and if you've heard of WCC you've heard of GlaDOS.
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Today: Vincent > Falco | Tomorrow: Scorpion > Gordon Freeman
hailEC | Posted 9/28/2008 1:03:39 PM | message detail
if youve heard of mario you've heard of luigi

mario = luigi imo

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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/28/2008 1:09:39 PM | message detail
More people are willing to vote for WCC, but given that its match looks quite a bit like this one, I'm doubting it has the strength it will need to advance. If it does, it's be a squeaker.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2008 1:15:02 PM | message detail
And while I'm at it (since I don't get to spend a lot of time here on Sundays), some early analysis!

Balthier Bunansa

I will preface this match by saying that it’s a total crapshoot in terms of guessing percentages. I really struggled with this one. Okay, so Balthier is the leading man of Final Fantasy XII, the latest of the main series. He came in with pretty high expectations, but fell on his face against Ada Wong not once, but twice. He got beat by Amaterasu of Okami fame as well, and Dante owned him big time. I’ll give him an outside shot at second place just because he’s facing Gordon Freeman, but Balthier could even get fourth place depending on what our newcomer does. Third is most likely though.

Big Daddy

Big Daddy has a stinkin’ awesome picture. I’ll go ahead and say that now. It’ll probably net him some votes. BioShock has a few polls on GameFAQs, and it’s done fairly well in all of them. It came in 4th place for Multi-platform Game of the Year behind Call of Duty 4, Guitar Hero III, and the Orange Box, and it wasn’t that far behind the last three. I doubt he has much of a chance of winning, but he could surprise. I wonder if he’ll leech off of Gordon Freeman any. It’s something to think about, I guess. I don’t know much about BioShock, honestly. Big Daddy could do well or flop, and neither would surprise me.

Gordon Freeman

Gordon Freeman with a two year winning streak? What is this world coming to? Seriously though, Gordon made it out of one of the most debated first round fourpacks last year, losing to Duke but beating out Ike. He returned the favor by trashing Mr. Nukem in round 2 and doing respectably well overall. He will probably get second place, and though I’ve heard some people say he’s got a good shot at first place, but I don’t buy it. More on that in a minute.

Scorpion

Scorpion either does really well in these contests or he gets owned. It’s only one or the other for him here. This year, he’s got another shot at doing really well. He’s understandably the favorite for first place here. Scorpion owned Midna in round 1, and he beat Frog pretty handily in round 2. He also did decently in round 3 against two Noble Niners and Yoshi. I don’t think Gordon’s got much of a chance at beating him here, and I’ll tell you why. Remember round two last year for Mr. Freeman? Remember who else was in that fourpack with him besides Sonic and Duke Nukem? That’s right: Sub-Zero. While Gordon didn’t get rocked, he still lost pretty handily. While Scorpion may be weaker than Sub-Zero, it’s not by enough for Gordon to win. Simple as that.

Scorpion Overthrows Harpoon,
Catches A Huge
Trap Of Ackbar

Balthier Bunansa – 23.47%
Big Daddy – 17.62%
Gordon Freeman – 26.57%
Scorpion – 31.34%
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/28/2008 1:15:47 PM | message detail
I think WCC will be aided by the DK/Tails semi-split. However, his biggest advantage is the fact that neither of the two fanbases (Final Fantasy or Nintendo) seem to care very much about their respective representatives in this match. Such relatively fickle support is one of the best things a joke character can hope for, and the Cube has lucked out bigtime in this regard.

Of course, if WCC makes it out of Round 1, he/it is all but guaranteed a spot in the division finals with a Mega Man / Zero fanbase split to help him out. It's make or break in the first round, cubey.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/28/2008 1:24:25 PM | message detail
Not only does Scorpion have a good shot at this, but he also has an amazing match picture. Whoever made that must be intelligent, suave, and handsome to boot.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2008 1:33:08 PM | message detail
Everyone in the match has a great picture, I think. Especially Scorpion though!

And I'm amazed Division 3 has caused such little discussion in these topics. What a bore.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/28/2008 1:36:19 PM | message detail
Honestly, I think Balthier takes 4th tomorrow. He let a seecond tier RE character school him last year (Not even in the main character level of Leon/Jill), and Bioshock is a FPS that is actually very well respected on Gamefaqs due to it being more then just a generic FPS. And Big Daddy is the face of Bioshock, so all Bioshock fans will more then likely vote for him. Also, I don't see much SFF between Big Daddy and Gordon because Bioshock is mainly a 360 game and Gordon is mainly known for PC gaming. I think it'll be Scorpy > Gordon > Big Daddy > Balthier, with Big Daddy and Balthier being quite close.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2008 1:37:11 PM | message detail
Like I said, I don't know very much of anything about BioShock, so I'm just venturing a guess about Big Daddy all the way!
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Big Bob | Posted 9/28/2008 1:37:48 PM | message detail
I easily took Gordon over Scorpion, and I would still do so in a 1-on-1 match.

I forgot about Big Daddy. I didn't even considering the possibility of Gordon getting leeched. -_-
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