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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 9:55:28 PM | message detail
Lost in all of this mess is that Ganon is putting up a nice 45% on this fourpack.

Yes, and actually, I think the biggest singular piece of evidence that this is really hurting KOS is the fact that Ganon is kicking this much ass. Nintendo has been generally dormant so far (even Samus dropped the ball a bit yesterday imo), and Ganondorf is the one who puts up their first superstar performance? Ganondorf?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:55:44 PM | message detail
KOS-MOS even having a chance in this match was a complete fabrication of the stats topic.

Question, what is Frog looking like if you assume constant Ganondorf
Ngamer64 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:56:02 PM | message detail
Okay, actually I take that back.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2864&type=2&seconds=400

The early vote isn't her best time, BUT, she's supposed to be peaking in a few hours here and making up ground during the dead of night slash Euro morning vote. As we've seen many times now, CT always starts to crash and burn once the Europeans wake up, since the game was never released over there. But with no pic, and as time goes on it seems less likely we'll get one until SB wakes up in 8 hours or so, that's going to put a huge dent in her comeback potential.

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/26/2008 9:56:33 PM | message detail
How about a constant KOS? Where are Frog and Ganondorf looking to be at?
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greatone10 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:56:35 PM | message detail
I would think the loss of casuals would affect the strongest character in the 4 pack, and that obviously would be Ganon.
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ZhangJunyi | Posted 9/26/2008 9:56:45 PM | message detail
I really don't see how people can be saying that KOS-MOS is being hurt by no picture, then go and say that it's helping Frog. A guy with only the name Frog. It's really a no brainer. Some people won't put together "Oh, that frog from Chrono Trigger!" while others won't put together "Oh, KOS-MOS has massive boobs!"

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/26/2008 9:57:29 PM | message detail
Nintendo has been generally dormant so far (even Samus dropped the ball a bit yesterday imo), and Ganondorf is the one who puts up their first superstar performance? Ganondorf?

Why does this surprise you? Ganondorf's only the best character ever. This is child's play for him!
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Frog/Ganondorf/KOS-MOS/Neku - Bracket: Ganondorf > Frog - Vote: Ganondorf (26/36)
red sox 777 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:58:02 PM | message detail
Pics up!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:58:06 PM | message detail
Don't use a constant KOS-MOS. She's dropped a great deal since 2005/2006, and her results last year can be thrown out due to the SFF in the second round overrating here a good deal.
paraboxx | Posted 9/26/2008 9:58:13 PM | message detail
I really don't see how people can be saying that KOS-MOS is being hurt by no picture, then go and say that it's helping Frog. A guy with only the name Frog. It's really a no brainer.

I've been wondering this all match, but didn't know how to say it.
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:58:24 PM | message detail
It's pretty clear that Frog is getting bonus votes from people who'd vote for Frogger.

I told you guys we should've nominated Frogger!
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Lopen | Posted 9/26/2008 9:58:41 PM | message detail
I just explained why.

We're losing the casual vote. The casual vote is the one voting for oh my gawd BOOBS in the first place, for the most part, I'd like to think. And guess what that casual vote isn't going to visit the site 19 times a day like all the fanatics do.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/26/2008 9:58:50 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb7/cb7-10.jpg

Alright, let's see if this does anything.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:58:50 PM | message detail
Alright. The pic won't affect this update too much, but the next update should be telling.

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paraboxx | Posted 9/26/2008 9:58:58 PM | message detail
Ooh, pic's up. Here we go....
Yesmar | Posted 9/26/2008 9:59:16 PM | message detail
I really don't see how people can be saying that KOS-MOS is being hurt by no picture, then go and say that it's helping Frog. A guy with only the name Frog. It's really a no brainer. Some people won't put together "Oh, that frog from Chrono Trigger!" while others won't put together "Oh, KOS-MOS has massive boobs!"

The lack of picture helps Frog in the sense that the voters are more hardcore and hardcore voters are more likely to vote for Frog. It doesn't have anything to do with his picture per se.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:59:26 PM | message detail
Great, pics up. Now we watch as nothing changes, and KP/Bio start whining about KOS' picture is unfair or some ****.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/26/2008 9:59:39 PM | message detail
look at those breasts

comeback train a rollin woo woo
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Frog/Ganondorf/KOS-MOS/Neku - Bracket: Ganondorf > Frog - Vote: Ganondorf (26/36)
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:59:39 PM | message detail
You can't really see KOSBY's knockers.

She's boned.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2008 9:59:41 PM | message detail
I really don't see how people can be saying that KOS-MOS is being hurt by no picture, then go and say that it's helping Frog. A guy with only the name Frog. It's really a no brainer. Some people won't put together "Oh, that frog from Chrono Trigger!" while others won't put together "Oh, KOS-MOS has massive boobs!"

Solid Snake has pretty much 100% name recognizability. The sprite round still ends up hurting him massively every year. Recognizability is not the issue here. It's the image.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 10:00:11 PM | message detail
Wait wait wait..... Chrono Trigger is more hardcore than Xenosaga????

I think I'm going to sleep now, you people aren't making any sense any more.
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2008 10:01:07 PM | message detail
Actually, to put this another way - how well do you people think Altair does on his pack without pictures there? Remember - his name is Altair.
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creativename | Posted 9/26/2008 10:01:16 PM | message detail
The fanatics that don't care about a pic being up are probably more significantly Frog.

You seem to be making the assumption that Frog's votes are votes he'd get anyway. But this is wrong. He proportion of "votes he'd get anyway" relative to other characters is almost certainly higher.

However the night has always been Frog's best time. And he's losing votes here, no question. And we have no clue how much of a factor the "votes he'd get anyway" proportion is - that's just pure speculation.

If you don't think KOS-MOS is losing more votes than Frog from the lack of pic, even excepting the fact that she's a hot android chick, I'm either thinking you're full of bias or blind.

I really don't want to offend, and I regret if this does so, but statements like this make me wonder if it's worth talking to you. To say that we *definitively* know that KOS-MOS's vote gap (not % gap) would be lower if there was a picture is just unfathomable in terms of logic.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/26/2008 10:01:20 PM | message detail
Votals up that update, Frog still gains 61. Neku gains the most in percentage.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/26/2008 10:01:23 PM | message detail
Nice increase in votals already.
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Yesmar | Posted 9/26/2008 10:01:46 PM | message detail
Wait wait wait..... Chrono Trigger is more hardcore than Xenosaga???

Did KOS-MOS boost in 2004/2005 when the voter base was more hardcore.

Chrono Trigger characters did.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 10:01:47 PM | message detail
Altair would be bombing, because he's pure casual bait with an ambiguous name.
_Hogger_ | Posted 9/26/2008 10:01:47 PM | message detail
Hey guys, remember when we had an arguement over who would in a 1v1 match... Neku or Altair?

Good times, good times.
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Lopen | Posted 9/26/2008 10:01:53 PM | message detail
Frog: -0.13%
KOS-MOS: +0.05%

With fractional update with a pic. THIS BATTLE IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 10:01:58 PM | message detail
Hmm, not exactly the greatest update for KOS-MOS, but the pic was only up for 2 minutes. This update is important.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 10:02:33 PM | message detail
Heh, looks like some people just remembered what Ganondorf looked like.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 10:02:51 PM | message detail
Crap, Frog has a sword. That almost cancels out TJF.

I wish i was joking.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/26/2008 10:02:58 PM | message detail
Pics matter.

2003'S TOON LINK AND ZERO SUIT SAMUS WERE SO SCREWED OVER
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 10:03:25 PM | message detail
And now that the Frog Power Hour is over, people are going to attribute the Frog Drop to the picture.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 10:04:41 PM | message detail
omg frog got killed over a full precent
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 10:05:32 PM | message detail
Hey, I was half right!
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/26/2008 10:05:39 PM | message detail
Holy crap KOS with a stall!
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/26/2008 10:05:43 PM | message detail
Now we're talking!

Frog only gained 12 that time!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 10:05:43 PM | message detail
Frog increases by 10.

PIC FACTOR CONFIRMED.

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/26/2008 10:05:47 PM | message detail
kos jump

TJF confirmed
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/26/2008 10:05:51 PM | message detail
And now the fun starts.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2008 10:05:59 PM | message detail
Oh hey

look at that

can I start hitting some of you now

HARD
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/26/2008 10:06:03 PM | message detail
Frog.....argh......don't lose this one.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/26/2008 10:06:10 PM | message detail
LMAO Frog just got hit in the balls.

That's it, when I win Guru, screw my plans for Master Hand and Toon Link. Frogger for CB 09!
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Lopen | Posted 9/26/2008 10:06:13 PM | message detail
To say that we *definitively* know that KOS-MOS's vote gap (not % gap) would be lower if there was a picture is just unfathomable in terms of logic.

We don't, but considering the kind of fanbases you're comparing here:

One: Driven by a great pic
Two: Votes in droves with the early vote and cheats/rallies to see their guy win.

It's kinda hard to think Frog isn't helped by this. People who hawk over the poll when it starts are going to be deterred by a lack of picture?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 10:06:21 PM | message detail
Ariel would double Link with pictures confirmed.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/26/2008 10:06:27 PM | message detail

Karma Hunter (#334)
Oh hey

look at that

can I start hitting some of you now

HARD



Don't blame me, I believed in the pic pulling in votes factor!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 10:06:42 PM | message detail
Frog Power Hour is over, expect back and forth over night until the poll ends.
charmander6000 | Posted 9/26/2008 10:06:47 PM | message detail
KOS-MOS seems to be recovering after the first hour.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/26/2008 10:06:53 PM | message detail
Holy crap KOS with a stall!

Aww yeah, the pic might have played a slight factor in that.
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