GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 576
| Yesmar | Posted 9/26/2008 9:31:39 PM | message detail |
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Once again, creativename is the voice of reason. People actually
still believe in TJF? KOS-MOS isn't even human. Then again, given some
of the people that visit this board, it wouldn't surprise me that there
are people with a fetish for blue-haired robots. People think she would do better because why else would KOS-MOS still be popular? Xenosaga hasn't been relevant in years. --- "No matter how far we go, all we see are ruins. How can this be our future?"--Knuckles the Echidna |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:31:52 PM | message detail |
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Picture = more total votes = lower percentage for Frog = higher lead for Frog. --- Character Battle VII --- Score: 32/36 --- T-5 (72 way) Bracket: Ganondorf > Frog --- Vote: Frog |
| satai_delenn | Posted 9/26/2008 9:32:05 PM | message detail |
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It's not TJF, it's recognizability. Like I've said before, in a 4-way
poll, whether or not a voter immediately recognizes an entrant makes a
difference. The name "Neku Sakuraba" isn't one people will remember
very well, but they'll go "Oh, that's the Square kid from that new
game" if they can see him. KOS-MOS, a similar deal. People already know
who Frog and Ganondorf are. Not saying it's a huge factor, but I'm sure
it is one. --- Attention, all yoctograms! (It's x2) DIE! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2008 9:32:12 PM | message detail |
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cn is being both selective and biased, and it's obvious to anyone
that's seen him argue in this topic for more than a passing glance.
Anyone who earnestly tries to argue The Sword Factor for MC in a match and then tries to argue the lack of pic is hurting FROG here is arguing from a very untenable perspective. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:32:27 PM | message detail |
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Lopes, 1. So would a cult piece of crap like Xenosaga 2. She's cartoonish video game character that isn't even human 3. I agree that the picture would do nothing but increase Ganondorf's lead due to higher votes. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 9:33:00 PM | message detail |
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It was more of keeping it close until the day. That is creative's point. Throw in an extra 1000 voters, let those voters get a good luck at KOS-MOS's robo boobs, and Frog would still have a bigger lead. She wouldn't 50/50 him with a picture if she 40/60s him without one. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:33:00 PM | message detail |
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This is what happens when I get drunk. First I forget about the match, and then there's not even any pic for it! sO craZy. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:33:21 PM | message detail |
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BlAcK TuRtLe (#255) 1. So would a cult piece of crap like Xenosaga 2. She's cartoonish video game character that isn't even human 3. I agree that the picture would do nothing but increase Ganondorf's lead due to higher votes. I should've kept you blocked. You're such a ****ing hypocrite with your idiocy, it's not even funny. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:33:29 PM | message detail |
| BOLD PREDICTION: Even with a picture, KOS-MOS fails to close the lead during the day, making Biolizard and KP look like raving fanboys. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/26/2008 9:33:57 PM | message detail |
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I know people like to say that percentages don't matter. But they do
matter, at least for gauging comeback potential. These percentages are
totally unreasonable for KOS-MOS to come back from. While she might be
losing more raw votes even if the percentage were closer, there'd be
way more votes coming in and she'd be able to swing percent around
easier. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:34:12 PM | message detail |
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That is creative's point. Throw in an extra 1000 voters, let those
voters get a good luck at KOS-MOS's robo boobs, and Frog would still
have a bigger lead. She wouldn't 50/50 him with a picture if she 40/60s
him without one. I disagree with this. Frog is the perfect character to capitalize on this, KOS-MOS is a character mostly likely to be hurt by this. It might not mean much, or it could mean everything. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:36:25 PM | message detail |
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We are now 1600 votes behind the norm. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| paraboxx | Posted 9/26/2008 9:37:06 PM | message detail |
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I'd just like to point out I was the first one to mention the unreasonable-comeback-via-percentage thing: paraboxx Posted 9/26/2008 11:22:40 PM message detail You know, maybe it's just the low votals, but...the percentages aren't exactly making this look like a close match. Can Kos-Mos really still draw enough to change voting patterns that much? This makes me special and godlike in the eyes of all men. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:37:23 PM | message detail |
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It's not TJF, it's recognizability. Like I've said before, in a
4-way poll, whether or not a voter immediately recognizes an entrant
makes a difference. The name "Neku Sakuraba" isn't one people will
remember very well, but they'll go "Oh, that's the Square kid from that
new game" if they can see him. KOS-MOS, a similar deal. People already
know who Frog and Ganondorf are. Not saying it's a huge factor, but I'm
sure it is one. Xenosaga sold a total of what, 200,000 copies between the 3 games? How about Neku's game? 50,000? KOS-MOS and Neku are doing so bad because they are cult RPG characters in a contest that has done nothing but crap all over cult RPG characters. Add more votals and the more mainstream guys get an advantage. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:37:51 PM | message detail |
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35 minutes in: Frog's lead on KOS-MOS: 561 Frog's lead on Axel: 565 Frog's percentage of Frog/KOS-MOS votes: 60.45% Frog's percentage of Frog/Axel votes: 59.28% --- Character Battle VII --- Score: 32/36 --- T-5 (72 way) Bracket: Ganondorf > Frog --- Vote: Frog |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:38:19 PM | message detail |
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KOS-MOS comeback confirmed when boobies arrive --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| creativename | Posted 9/26/2008 9:38:34 PM | message detail |
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Are you insane, Creativename, or a crazy Frog fanboy? Um...wtf? I thought the logic was pretty kindergarten stuff here. And yes, I am a very proud crazy Frog fanboy :) It's fair to say that KOS-MOS would do better with a picture. That would make the percentages closer. However the vote totals are being hurt a lot, and this is Frog's best time. He's losing a ton of votes too. It's very debatable, but the most likely scenario is that this is a negative for Frog in terms of actual vote lead. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:38:57 PM | message detail |
| Though I must say, this will be an interesting way to gauge what effects, if any, the match picture has on these polls. |
| paraboxx | Posted 9/26/2008 9:39:11 PM | message detail |
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Xenosaga sold a total of what, 200,000 copies between the 3 games? How about Neku's game? 50,000? North American sales for Chrono Trigger, anyone? |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:39:32 PM | message detail |
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Only with Frog would I consider a 500+ lead after 40 minutes possible to lose. >_> (And Phoenix) --- i am false |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 9:39:49 PM | message detail |
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KOS-MOS comeback confirmed when boobies arrive Hate to be a party pooper, but KOS-MOS and Axel have pretty different night and day vote trends. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:40:09 PM | message detail |
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hey hey yoblazer shush --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:40:43 PM | message detail |
| Adding in Chronicles and amount of people who downloaded the ROM? Crono's strength is proof enough that Chrono Trigger is far more mainstream than Xenosaga. |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:41:00 PM | message detail |
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I suppose if KOS-MOS gets a vote surge once the pic is up, she could make an attempt at a comeback. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/26/2008 9:41:57 PM | message detail |
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KOS-MOS is not Axel. Frog's going to have way too big of a lead by the time the pic even goes up for anything to happen. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 9:42:45 PM | message detail |
| If nothing has happened yet, I doubt we'll be
getting a picture until daytime. Bacon's probably snoozing (or else he
would have at least posted something by now). --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Majin Lou | Posted 9/26/2008 9:43:46 PM | message detail |
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Doesn't Bacon live on the west coast, though? Like California? He
should be up, unless he's sick in bed or something. Maybe his internet
crapped out or something. --- But the scars of memory never fade away. I can't stop loving you. Stop my tears. Stop my loving. Kill my memories. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2008 9:45:39 PM | message detail |
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That's assuming that the picture won't increase KOS-MOS's overall
strength. Her trends shouldn't be affected. It shouldn't be drastic or
anything, but we've seen big pic factor proven ever since... well,
Snake/Frog, to be blunt. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 9:45:41 PM | message detail |
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Heh, the thought of Bacon frantically dialing his ISP in order to put
up the Frog vs. KOS-MOS picture as soon as possible brings a smile to
me! --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| creativename | Posted 9/26/2008 9:45:51 PM | message detail |
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cn is being both selective and biased, and it's obvious to anyone
that's seen him argue in this topic for more than a passing glance.
Anyone who earnestly tries to argue The Sword Factor for MC in a match
and then tries to argue the lack of pic is hurting FROG here is arguing
from a very untenable perspective. Wow. I'm shocked at the responses here. What's happened to stats topic posters? So much uncalled for venom. Firstly - completely dismissing the sword factor for MC in the Crono match (where the hell did you dig this thought up from anyway) is ridiculous. You can question it, but not dismiss it. And secondly, the logic is so incredibly simple I am confounded by how someone can't understand it. It is definitely NOT a clear-cut situation - we don't know for sure what Frog's lead would be right now in terms of actual votes if there was a picture. KOS-MOS would very likely benefit quite a bit from her picture, yes. Thus percentage-wise she'd likely be significantly closer. But Frog is losing a ton of votes here too. To think that he'd be getting under 50% relative to KOS-MOS in Frog's notoriously uber-dominant time - that just doesn't make too much sense. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:45:58 PM | message detail |
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| Ngamer64 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:46:37 PM | message detail |
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While I agree with you about this being Frog's best time creative, keep in mind that it's also KM's
best time... and yet she's being pounded as badly to this point as
Axel, a character with a very bad opening vote and huge ASV. Frog might
be getting hampered somewhat by there being less votes coming in, but I
don't think there's any way he's pulling in this kind of percentage
with a pic in place, so it still goes in his favor overall. The only REALLY getting owned by the lack of pic though is Neku... --- Check out the '08 Guru Site! http://thengamer.com/guru/ Other Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:46:48 PM | message detail |
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I'm never reading this topic drunk ever again. This has been quite an experience. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 9:47:33 PM | message detail |
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Mega, do you post on Survivor Sucks? Thought I saw a user name very similar to yours last night. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| DpObliVion | Posted 9/26/2008 9:47:48 PM | message detail |
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I'm never reading this topic drunk ever again. This has been quite an experience. Seriously, these topics are enough of a head-spinner when you're sober. --- NEW YORK GIANTS: SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!! Character Battle VII *PRINTABLE BRACKET* - Look in my profile for links. GO SONIC |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:48:21 PM | message detail |
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Wait, I think I messed that up. Let me try again. >_> --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| creativename | Posted 9/26/2008 9:48:53 PM | message detail |
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Seriosly, the more I think about it the less sense it makes. If people who aren't voting due to the lack of a picture would vote more than 50% for KOS-MOS during Frog's best time...well, Frog's gonna get killed in this match by her. Let's see if that happens. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:49:38 PM | message detail |
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M_e_g_a_6_4 (#283) Try doing it during an unexpected result and trying to make sense of some of the arguments that get thrown around. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2008 9:50:40 PM | message detail |
| CN, just ignore KP and Biolizard. They've done nothing but troll this topic since the contest started, and that's coming from me of all people. |
| jkmill550 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:51:00 PM | message detail |
| ^ You post on Sucks? What's your username? |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:51:21 PM | message detail |
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BT has now made 5+ posts regarding me, Bio, or ignoring me and Bio throughout this topic. Good god, man. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| creativename | Posted 9/26/2008 9:51:45 PM | message detail |
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Frog might be getting hampered somewhat by there being less votes
coming in, but I don't think there's any way he's pulling in this kind
of percentage with a pic in place, so it still goes in his favor
overall. It's extremely likely Frog's percentage would be lower with a pic, yes. But that doesn't mean this goes in his favor, because the percentage only matters in terms of appearances and perception - the net vote swing are the only thing that really matters. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:52:02 PM | message detail |
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Lost in all of this mess is that Ganon is putting up a nice 45% on this fourpack. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/26/2008 9:52:19 PM | message detail |
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I don't see how this is too big a surprise, really. Even without a pic,
I thought Ganon > Frog > KOS > Overrated was pretty obvious... --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore ~*ST*~ |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:52:38 PM | message detail |
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50 minutes in: Frog's lead on KOS-MOS: 804 Frog's lead on Axel: 750 Frog's percentage of Frog/KOS-MOS votes: 61.31% Frog's percentage of Frog/Axel votes: 59.49% This one is over, barring a major boost for KOS-MOS from pictures appearing later. --- Character Battle VII --- Score: 32/36 --- T-5 (72 way) Bracket: Ganondorf > Frog --- Vote: Frog |
| Lopen | Posted 9/26/2008 9:52:47 PM | message detail |
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To think that he'd be getting under 50% relative to KOS-MOS in
Frog's notoriously uber-dominant time - that just doesn't make too much
sense. KOS-MOS doesn't NEED to be winning outright here, she just needs to be slowing the bleeding. The key here is that Frog is ahead by 10%, and he's probably gaining a greater %age lead due to the lack of pic. The way I see it... a lot of visitors do NOT visit the site multiple times per day. These people we're losing in the early vote are permanent damage for KOS-MOS, because it's likely largely the casual vote that is going to be influenced by a pic. The fanatics that don't care about a pic being up are probably more significantly Frog. Recall that these are the same people that rally en masse and vote stuff to see their entrant win. If you don't think KOS-MOS is losing more votes than Frog from the lack of pic, even excepting the fact that she's a hot android chick, I'm either thinking you're full of bias or blind. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/26/2008 9:53:04 PM | message detail |
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I don't post on Sucks, I just lurk there from time to time. There are
some hilarious topics, but there's far too much seething anger for my
tastes (and for reasons that go beyond my understanding). --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:53:10 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, for KOS-MOS to be going even with Frog now she would need to be
getting 60% of the uncast votes every update. This is assuming 200 more
uncast votes each updates and Frog increasing his lead by 80 every
update. Not happening, but she could at least be stalling somewhat. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2008 9:54:10 PM | message detail |
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...Actually, it would need to be even higher. Like, a lot higher. *tears up math* It's too late for impromptu calculations! --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/26/2008 9:54:25 PM | message detail |
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PartOfYourWorld (#284) Yeah, I've been posting there since Vanuatu. I'm Mega64 there. Great place. BlAcK TuRtLe (#288) M_e_g_a_6_4 (#283) Try doing it during an unexpected result and trying to make sense of some of the arguments that get thrown around. The lack of match pic alone makes this match insane. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
