GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 574
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/24/2008 11:49:11 AM | message detail |
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I generally consider 2:30-3:00 PM the ASV. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| transience | Posted 9/24/2008 11:52:11 AM | message detail |
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naw, the after-school vote goes from when kids get out of school until
the evening, and the trends never really change until much later, like
10-11pm. as far as trends go, you've got: power hour (12-1) night vote (1-6) before school vote (6-9ish) during-school vote (9-2:30) afterschool vote (2:30-10 or something) "second night vote" (10-12) you can break them down further, but generally you've got the power hour, a night vote, a day vote, a night vote, a day vote, and then another night vote. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 9/24/2008 12:06:44 PM | message detail |
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Looks like Fei's not gonna hold up too well with the ASV. Knux not doing too bad, though. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| Osfan | Posted 9/24/2008 12:16:37 PM | message detail |
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Now that my personal list of Best Games Ever is done *end of shameless
promotion* I guess it is time to catch up on the old stats topic. Ok so can anyone explain to me how Fei can hold up better then Tales characters when Xenogears is as old as the day is long. Gosh I would have put him sub 10 but I am glad to see that Xenogears gets some respect, it certainly was a good half a game. Also are people still saying Sonic is going to beat out MC this year? I mean I guess its plausible but this match can't be good for confidence levels in the Sonic camp. Shadow gets embarrassed and Knux suffers the same fate. I know I know Sonic is better and gets more of the core votes bla bla bla but Sonic wasn't that good in these types of matches last year whereas MC excelled. That new Sonic game could give him the edge he needs but to be honest without that game I would give him a very good chance of going out to MC. I still give him the 50/50 though with the new game because he is Sonic and the new game factor seems more prevalent in this format. --- Nominate Rydia for this years Character Battle! |
| transience | Posted 9/24/2008 12:22:37 PM | message detail |
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Mario doing a little bit better with the afterschool vote. he's currently got 61.75% on Zelda straight-up. Mario (2005c) VS Zelda (2005c) Mario has a strength of 43.20. Zelda has a strength of 33.71. Mario wins with 60.98% of the vote! A win of 24,631 with 112,122 total votes cast. yeesh --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 9/24/2008 12:23:26 PM | message detail |
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forget it tranny, mario sucks down with nintendo --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| transience | Posted 9/24/2008 12:24:03 PM | message detail |
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oh gee there's Fei losing another 50 vote update to Knuckles --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| ExThasEx | Posted 9/24/2008 12:25:22 PM | message detail |
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So....assuming it's... Mario Zelda Luigi/Bowser Liquid Snake ....does Liquid place? Does Liquid WIN? --- i am false |
| M80TheWolf | Posted 9/24/2008 12:27:40 PM | message detail |
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If Liquid can benefit enough to win because of a Bowser/Luigi split,
I'd say yes. It's the reasoning I took behind Mudkip > Mario...
except now Liquid might go and screw things up. --- hungry like the wolf |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 12:53:43 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Zelda beating out Mega Man X might not be outside the realm of
possibility anymore. We were expecting a lot of LFF here for Mario on
her, and it looks like he's barely fazing her. In that case, Mario >
Zelda in round 3 might not be a bad pick, even with Liquid there. Just
have to wait and see what happens tomorrow with X and next round with
this match. Looks like he might get that 40% Luigi couldn't get the other day, too. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 12:55:05 PM | message detail |
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Say what you want, but Auron's round 2 performance last year was as impressive a performance by a non-Noble Niner as we've seen. And that's all he's got. Really I wouldn't be that surprised if that was some bizarre Bowser/Ryu SFF (see 2005) or Bowser/Shadow SFF (see second match of this contest) artificially inflating his numbers. Then he ran into Cloud and died. We've already seen that Cloud doesn't massacre Auron with the SFF (see 2004), so really, you shouldn't expect Auron to hold up much better against other big time groups of entries. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 12:55:31 PM | message detail |
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Since this will be my last chance to post for the day, here's my extra early analysis for tomorrow! Division 2, Match 4 Lloyd Irving The main character of Tales of Symphonia returns for his third contest! Last year, he was involved in one of the tightest threeway battles for second last year and fell just short of HK-47, to the surprise of several, including myself. Lloyd’s got a decent shot of advancing. He won’t be beating Mega Man X, and I doubt Tom Nook is going to be beating him. That just leaves…Mudkip. I think Lloyd’s chances depend a lot on what X does because I think Mudkip is going to get his 20%+ here, no matter what. If X can go low and leave more overall percentage, perhaps Lloyd can take advantage of it. Overall though, I doubt he makes it. Mudkip At first, when I saw the bracket, I picked Lloyd to advance here because I got Mudkip confused with Bidoof. When I realized my error, I promptly changed my bracket. He did really well last year, all things considered. He held up very respectably to Luigi and Ganondorf, though I think he looked better than he was because he probably wasn’t affected by the Nintendo LFF. He seems to have a pretty consistent voter base, and I think it’ll pull him through to second place here. Tom Nook Last year, Tom Nook laid the smack down on Zelos Wilder, and now he gets a crack at the main character of Tales of Symphonia himself! The only consolation he’ll get is if he can somehow beat Lloyd and avoid last place. Though I won’t put it out of the realm of possibility, I really don’t like the odds of that happening. Nook basically has no chance of advancing here, sorry. Mega Man X Ah, one of the most anticipated debuts of the contest right here! Everyone’s anxious to see how X compares to the original Blue Bomber, and in my opinion, he won’t be as strong. Sure, they look just alike with a few differences, but so do Solid Snake and young Big Boss, and there’s a big difference between the two in terms of strength. Perhaps having his name as Mega Man with simply an X added will help him out here, but I don’t see him being on the Noble Nine level. He’s safely above this fourpack here, but I think he’s a high midcard at best. Mega Man probably gets a lot of his votes as a conglomeration of the various incarnations, much like the series probably did in the Series Contest, and X being a distinct version of Mega Man nullifies that advantage. Swords On Hand Crazy Animal Hacks The Other Android Lloyd Irving – 23.22% Mudkip – 27.71% Tom Nook – 14.69% Mega Man X – 34.38% I feel like I probably undershot X by a lot, but at the same time, I feel sorta comfortable with this number. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 12:58:27 PM | message detail |
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Really I wouldn't be that surprised if that was some bizarre
Bowser/Ryu SFF (see 2005) or Bowser/Shadow SFF (see second match of
this contest) artificially inflating his numbers. Big time speculation and nothing more. Feels like a stretch to me, in fact. Then he ran into Cloud and died. We've already seen that Cloud doesn't massacre Auron with the SFF (see 2004), so really, you shouldn't expect Auron to hold up much better against other big time groups of entries. Are you saying Cloud doesn't slaughter Auron with SFF just because Squall got it worse? Of COURSE Squall is going to get it worse. And you can look at the difference between how badly Auron beat Ryu and how close the match was anyway to get an idea that yes, the SFF was significant. Saying that this match somehow proves Auron can't hang in there with the big boys is pretty ridiculous because it's not like Bowser and Ryu are small fries. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/24/2008 1:01:49 PM | message detail |
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X is still safe against Zelda. Any weakness he gets from not having
MM's all-encompassing nature is negated by the fact that he's much more
charismatic, and to put it simply, cool. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/24/2008 1:03:04 PM | message detail |
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Also, can someone explain to me how Shadow can apparently stunt Link's day vote while Mario does better than Knuckles? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 1:03:15 PM | message detail |
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Are you saying Cloud doesn't slaughter Auron with SFF just because
Squall got it worse? Of COURSE Squall is going to get it worse No, I'm saying it because Auron's 2004 X-Stat value is 29.37%... or 27.34%... which one is "base" Link I always forget. Anyway, there's just not that much room to go up there, is what I'm saying. I won't say there wasn't SFF... but there wasn't a huge amount. Auron wouldn't have won by much without any SFF factor, and look at what happened to Ryu in the following round when he started playin with the big boys. Doubt Auron holds up much better. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/24/2008 1:06:50 PM | message detail |
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Mario has a better day vote than Link, perhaps? Really, Link's day vote
is only seen as the best because he is so strong at everything. Last
time Link faced Cloud 1v1, Cloud actually ended at a higher percentage
than he had at 8AM, which was about when he reached his first peak
before Link started gaining with the morning vote. --- Character Battle VII --- Score: 20/24 --- T-73 (356 way) Bracket: Mario > Zelda --- Vote: Zelda |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/24/2008 1:08:07 PM | message detail |
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Isn't Auron's 2004 x-stat value based on his match with Sephiroth? If
so, that just shows how much more SFF Cloud got on him than Seph, not
how much SFF he got in total. --- Character Battle VII --- Score: 20/24 --- T-73 (356 way) Bracket: Mario > Zelda --- Vote: Zelda |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 1:10:29 PM | message detail |
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Oh. I for some reason was thinking Auron fought Cloud in 2004. In any case, Auron's 2003 value is 28.73%, same argument applies. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2008 1:33:07 PM | message detail |
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And that's all he's got. Really I wouldn't be that surprised if that
was some bizarre Bowser/Ryu SFF (see 2005) or Bowser/Shadow SFF (see
second match of this contest) artificially inflating his numbers. okay, what. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 1:39:13 PM | message detail |
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okay, what. The evidence is there of Bowser/Ryu being a fishy situation. Shadow/Nintendo too. Whether you wanna buy it is another thing entirely but it's not entirely illogical either. Ryu/Bowser are SNES icons and I know a ton of people in this topic were calling for Link/Shadow SFF. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2008 1:42:24 PM | message detail |
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and when you compare it to Luigi/Ganondorf, it's no contest, man! your argument needs to be that Master Chief is stronger against top competition (unproven, but possible), not this. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/24/2008 1:44:19 PM | message detail |
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so tomorrow how much will mudkip beat lloyd by GO GO GO --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/24/2008 1:49:16 PM | message detail |
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Let's go Lloyd: 18 Tom: 14 Mudkip: 23 X: 45 So Kip > Lloyd by 5% --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 1:55:48 PM | message detail |
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#1. That IS my main argument for Chief being strong. However against freaking Auron he doesn't even need that. Luigi/Ganondorf/Yuna is a stronger four pack anyway. Luigi/Ganondorf couldn't have been weakened that
much by each other as they still both beat Yuna quite handily. The
weakening ability of Nintendo SFF is overrated. As I've said in the
past... it's not exactly a small fanbase you're splitting. In a four way match I have my doubts as to how much it really matters. #2. And yeah, it's possible that there's not a fishy thing at all there... I thought Auron did a lot better on that four pack than he did. Looking back at it again, his performance there is within the range of a normal result and probably was normal (though don't act like I'm the only one to bring up Shadow/Nintendo... and to me Ryu/Bowser is more logical than that overlap) --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Malakuko | Posted 9/24/2008 2:48:42 PM | message detail |
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let's get going kiddies --- http://img.imgcake.com//christ2.gif http://img.imgcake.com//dannynoriegaanimated.gif MerNOICE! |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/24/2008 2:55:22 PM | message detail |
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I haven't read any of this stats topic and haven't really been around
all day. My first thoughts from some of the things last night was
"taking Knuckles was actually the majority
around here"? I already stated my reasoning for taking Knuckles and
felt that it was indeed a gamble, but after Knuckles > Magus, I
vowed never to again be on the **** end of one of my favorite
characters winning a match! I figured that Mario SFFing Zelda enough
for Knux to get through was a long shot, but couldn't resist and
figured it was only a point anyways. I thought that was the same reason
a lot of other people here took Knux. Yeah, you can actually
legitimately argue Mario possibly SFFing Zelda, but deep down, it's
because we're all Knux fans, I know it! :P But anyways, after actually seeing this thing play out... I don't see too much out of the ordinary. Zelda stood up just fine from Mario, and really, I'm not surprised. Sure Link SFF'd the hell out of her, but he did the same thing to Ganon too. Would we be thinking Mario does the same tihing to Ganon? Knux isn't doing too badly right now, so he certainly isn't being SFF'd by Mario himself either. And really, as for Zelda, I think she might actually have some fans of her own. I see people clamoring over her much more than, say, Peach. I was surprised to all hell when she stood up to Snake in 2k5 and beat the hell out of VIvi, both fan faves in their own right. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2008 3:02:10 PM | message detail |
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I can't think of too many examples where the character from the more
popular series got SFF'd. the closest we've got is Luigi/Ganondorf, I
think, and that's as much picture as anything. there's
Squall/Aeris/Sora too, but Aeris didn't look SFF'd there either, she
just wasn't as strong. this is why Zidane has virtually no chance against Zack. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 3:10:18 PM | message detail |
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where the character from the more popular series got SFF'd Tidus/Squall is a great example. Pretty sure FFX is more popular here. Squall/Vincent is a great example of the less popular game entry resisting SFF. Can't think of any more right now but I'm sure they're out there. Zidane might beat Zack if Zack just won through pure apathy last round. Still don't like the idea that a PSP game makes him that strong. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2008 3:12:44 PM | message detail |
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eh, I see Tidus/Squall as being FF8 and KH vs. FF10, but point taken. resisting SFF is one thing, but I'm talking about someone from a more popular series getting the short end of the stick. the only thing that comes to mind is, uh, Luigi/Tingle. yeah. well, and Samus/Midna, but Midna's hardly the mainstay that Samus is. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/24/2008 3:13:22 PM | message detail |
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Still don't like the idea that a PSP game makes him that strong. If it fleshes him out amongst that large FFVII fanbase, yes. Final Fantasy VII might have caused a lot of people to know who Zack is. Crisis Core causes a lot of those people to care more about him. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 3:17:37 PM | message detail |
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Hey Tidus has KH also...! ... what? But on Zack... again: PSP game. I'm sure it does enough for people that have played it to stand tall by Zack, but how many have played it on this site? It has the sales to make an impact but the PSP ownership on this site is still pitifully low. The FFVII vote, what I consider the majority of his votes, I'm skeptical of how loyal they'll be in the face of Zidane, and more importantly, Link. Apathy is no longer a concern this coming round, so Zack might just collapse. We'll see. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/24/2008 3:26:43 PM | message detail |
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Uh, 38% of the site isn't exactly pitifully low. And again, we' re
talking about the fanbase of the biggest game on this site. You don't
even have to have played the game to be interested
in it. Just the game's existence is enough for a good portion of the
fanbase to start caring about Zack. Even if you're a FFVII fan who just
slightly knows who Zack is, the fact that there is now a FFVII game
specifically starring him would at least draw your attention to him. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/24/2008 3:40:44 PM | message detail |
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Bleh, I want a new match pic already. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 3:43:46 PM | message detail |
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When Zack's vote total exceeded the vote total for PSP ownership, you
have to believe a lot of his voting base doesn't come from Crisis Core.
38% isn't terrible playership... but then you've got to consider that
probably 75% of that at best (shooting high because this GameFAQs) cared to acquire Crisis Core. When only 29% at best (to be more realistic, I'd say its ownership is probably closer to 60%, even here) of the site has played your main source of strength, you're in big trouble when you come up against someone like Link who will suck the ambivalent votes dry. And that's assuming that everyone who played Crisis Core enjoyed the game and gave a damn about Zack... a bold assumption considering how mixed the reviews for the game were. That's another limiter on how well he can do based on the PSP factor. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/24/2008 3:52:01 PM | message detail |
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Did you miss what I said about Crisis Core's mere existence giving
FFVII fans a reason to care about Zack more than they did in FFVII?
They don't have to have played the game to care more about him. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2008 3:53:49 PM | message detail |
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Round 1 Division 2- Match 4 Lloyd Irving Fails character #3 up to bat Mudkip so i herd u lik mudkipz Tom Nook The greatest villain in video game history, can he continue his Tales killing spree? Mega Man X It took 6 years, but we finally got X into a contest, now the only question is, just how strong will he be? Analysis: A very boring and very obvious match, the only 2 things of interest here will be finally seeing X in action, and seeing if Tom Nook can go 2-0 against Fails characters. Not much you can say here in terms of percentage, given just how much of a wildcard X will be, but Mudkip is pretty much guarenteed at least 25%. If you look at last year, Luigi managed 45% against Mudkip, Pit and Tingle, so X should have no trouble outdoing that here if he really is as strong as Mega Man TuRtLe's Prediction: Mega Man X 47%, Mudkip 25%, Lloyd 15%, Tom Nook 13% TuRtLe's Bracket: X > Mudkip TuRtLe's Vote: X |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 3:54:42 PM | message detail |
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Did you miss what I said about Crisis Core's mere existence giving
FFVII fans a reason to care about Zack more than they did in FFVII? Yeah, I noticed, I just thought the notion was silly. "Hey Zack has a new game! OMIGOSH! He must be awesome now!" *votes Zack* Sorry, not seeing it. Maybe you're right, but it comes off to me as Zack propaganda --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/24/2008 3:54:46 PM | message detail |
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Fun fact: I have a pet cricket named Frank. >_> --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2008 3:55:50 PM | message detail |
| Also, do you think Mega Man 9 will have an effect on Zero and X? |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/24/2008 3:57:09 PM | message detail |
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I think it goes more like this: If the poll happened a couple years ago: Zack? Who's Zack? *Votes for another character.* Now: Zack? He's the star of Crisis Core, even though I haven't played it, but I remember him in FFVII! *Votes Zack.* --- Character Battle VII --- Score: 20/24 --- T-73 (356 way) Bracket: Mario > Zelda --- Vote: Zelda |
| Malakuko | Posted 9/24/2008 3:57:39 PM | message detail |
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yay Knux is gaining percentage --- http://img.imgcake.com//christ2.gif http://img.imgcake.com//dannynoriegaanimated.gif MerNOICE! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 3:59:21 PM | message detail |
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Zack? He's the star of Crisis Core, even though I haven't played it, but I remember him in FFVII! That's fine. And what I'm saying is it goes like that in the first round because his competition sucked ass, but now it goes: Zack? He's the star of Crisis Core, even though I haven't played it, but I remember him in FFVII. Link's better. *votes Link* --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| transience | Posted 9/24/2008 4:01:07 PM | message detail |
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Zack doesn't have to be a powerhouse to beat Zidane. this isn't a
strong character we're dealing with, this is a guy that lost handily to
Ness. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Malakuko | Posted 9/24/2008 4:03:12 PM | message detail |
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wait are we actually debating Zack and Zidane --- http://img.imgcake.com//christ2.gif http://img.imgcake.com//dannynoriegaanimated.gif MerNOICE! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2008 4:04:59 PM | message detail |
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1/3 of Zack's voters have to stay loyal to him with Link there taking
the ambivalent vote for him to beat Zidane. Probably about 1/3 of who
have played FF7 on this site have played Crisis Core, so that's about
right. He's certainly the favorite but I don't think it's at all a
given, even with how weak Zidane has been in the past. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Malakuko | Posted 9/24/2008 4:06:49 PM | message detail |
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you seem to think Zidane is incapable of losing any of the people who have voted for him before --- http://img.imgcake.com//christ2.gif http://img.imgcake.com//dannynoriegaanimated.gif MerNOICE! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/24/2008 4:07:17 PM | message detail |
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Zack doesn't have to be a powerhouse to beat Zidane. this isn't a
strong character we're dealing with, this is a guy that lost handily to
Ness. And put up 18% with Link and Shadow in the poll. Really, you're acting like this is the same Zidane. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| transience | Posted 9/24/2008 4:07:58 PM | message detail |
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um, why wouldn't it be? --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/24/2008 4:08:12 PM | message detail |
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you seem to think Zidane is incapable of losing any of the people who have voted for him before Zidane has gotten 22k-24k votes in every single match he's been in. he's not static or anything, but he's certainly got a very dedicated fanbase. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
