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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 574
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2008 4:47:41 AM | message detail |
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Link beats Ganondorf 1 on 1, but we've never seen the 2 in a 4-way situation. Guys, this is a tough call =( |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/24/2008 4:50:07 AM | message detail |
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that doesn't help your case at all. the only way to compare fourway
match strength is to actually use the format. 1vs1 isnt reliable enough. about MC dropping: yeah, i actually expect him to be weaker since last year but i still thought he was stronger than Sonic even before Halo 3 came out. then look at how 360 is growing and i honestly wouldn't be surprised if he beat Snake. --- *is Dranze* Bowser/Cain/Geno/Phoenix - Bracket: Bowser > Phoenix - Vote: Geno (12/20) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2008 4:51:26 AM | message detail |
| When, aside from obvious SFF situations, has a typically weaker character beaten a stronger character according to reliable stats (eg 2005 stats) |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/24/2008 4:56:14 AM | message detail |
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just look at MC himself. --- *is Dranze* Bowser/Cain/Geno/Phoenix - Bracket: Bowser > Phoenix - Vote: Geno (12/20) |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 9/24/2008 5:00:27 AM | message detail |
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man you sandbag/auron/mc > sonic guys are going to look like jokes sonic chronicles: the dark brotherhood is coming out soon so he'll be getting a boost from people coming to the site for faqs. |
| smitelf | Posted 9/24/2008 5:18:28 AM | message detail |
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Hmm, the situation hasn't changed much at all since I left last night. This is probably the first match in which I can say that. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 5:34:54 AM | message detail |
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Stats from yesterday: Bowser – 50.00% Phoenix Wright – 34.64% Geno – 26.81% Deckard Cain – 24.27% Fei looked pretty good overnight, but man, he's stinkin' it up right now. I don't know if he'll stay above 14% at this rate. In any event, he looks like he might be equal to KOS-MOS, which would be a pretty significant accomplishment. And I'll just go ahead and say it: I know Lopen's going to freak out when I say this, but Auron beating the Chief in this format is NOT a stretch. You can say that the Chief benefits greatly from this format, but there's absolutely no doubt in my mind it benefits Auron greatly as well. Say what you want, but Auron's round 2 performance last year was as impressive a performance by a non-Noble Niner as we've seen. And Auron > Sonic in round 2 is lookin' mighty good at this point. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 5:37:17 AM | message detail |
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And I'm taking Mario's performance in this match so far with a grain of salt for two reasons: 1. Bowser was doing horribly at this point yesterday and managed to end up looking pretty good. 2. This is an LFF match. And tomorrow's match should be interesting just for the sake of seeing where X falls. And to see if Pokefear is dead. Go Lloyd! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| smitelf | Posted 9/24/2008 5:47:54 AM | message detail |
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1. Bowser was doing horribly at this point yesterday and managed to end up looking pretty good. Bowser's competition was hopeless with the day vote. Mario shouldn't gain nearly as much as Bowser did. 2. This is an LFF match. All of Mario's matches this year will be LFF matches, though. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/24/2008 5:50:19 AM | message detail |
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Zelda will definitely be his greatest leecher. but i still dont see how that'd make many X fans vote him over Mario. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them”- Vivi0198 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/24/2008 5:52:13 AM | message detail |
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Mario peobabaly will only get above 40% and may touch 41%. Right now Mario is just getting over 60% on Zelda. Last year Vincent got 56.5% on Zelda --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 16/24 Today's Match: Mario > Knuckles |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/24/2008 5:58:23 AM | message detail |
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*probably dam typing in the dark. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 16/24 Today's Match: Mario > Knuckles |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/24/2008 6:00:19 AM | message detail |
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so this means that Zelda fans will vote anything Zelda even in the name of an icon. god dammit. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them”- Vivi0198 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 6:02:43 AM | message detail |
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Fei with the random spike update victory over Zelda! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 6:03:45 AM | message detail |
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All of Mario's matches this year will be LFF matches, though. Then all the more reason not to worry about it. He won't have to worry about getting eliminated until Link comes calling anyway. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| ZFS | Posted 9/24/2008 6:14:47 AM | message detail |
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Still under 40%, huh? Probably only rises a couple of more points from
here. Pretty disappointing performance from Mario if so. Maybe he'll do
better than I'm expecting later. We'll see. --- let's mosey |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 6:17:43 AM | message detail |
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Again, can't take TOO much away from an LFF match. His performance is
almost certainly getting hindered by Zelda here. Maybe even by Knux,
too? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 6:20:44 AM | message detail |
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And now Fei beats Knux on an update! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2008 6:26:39 AM | message detail |
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argh another failure King of the Day Vote my ass let's all go worship Master Chief now --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 9/24/2008 6:33:47 AM | message detail |
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oh, that's nice, my prediction looks way better right now than it looked yesterday night --- Today's prediction: Murphy 41.75% - Zelda 22.60% - Kunckels 22.10% - Fong Long Wrong 13.55% Status: OK |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/24/2008 6:58:56 AM | message detail |
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Knuckles's day vote is good, but not really all that great. I think he
earned his "king of the day vote" reputation from this: out of his
first 7 matches, 3 were against pre-Brawl announcement Snake, 1 was
against Magus, and 1 was against Kefka. --- Character Battle VII --- Score: 20/24 --- T-73 (356 way) Bracket: Mario > Zelda --- Vote: Zelda |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/24/2008 7:03:59 AM | message detail |
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| H__RR____H | Posted 9/24/2008 7:06:55 AM | message detail |
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I hate the arguments about SFF/LFF. Here's my take of it: You barely notice LFF in one-on-one matches because that's not the important factor in that format. In this format, Link/Zelda in R2 is a clear example of SFF; she got 43.58% against Vincent in R1, but she only got 21.9% on him with Link in the poll during R2. Meanwhile, comparing Samus/Mega Man in R3 to Samus/Mega Man in R4 is a clear example of LFF thanks to Yoshi; replacing Yoshi with Cloud and Scorpion with Ryu changed Samus from beating Mega Man with 52.1% to 60.98% (and she only dropped 4.3% despite Cloud/Ryu >> Yoshi/Scorp). Typical SFF (as in with only two characters sharing a fanbase) hurts one character in this format, which is always the weaker of the two barring rSFF...and LFF hurts two (or three) characters, regardless of where they stand in their fanbase. It's all about the relationship between those in that shared fanbase. Wait until we see Zack/Wario/Link/Zidane. There will likely be a clear example of SFF and a clear example of LFF there...and you know what's weird? People will probably argue there isn't much of either factor at play because Zack/Zidane should bring each other down closer to SFF'd-Wario. It'll look like Link's just so dominant since Wario may not look much worse against Zack than he did in R1. Still, ultimately, there's a difference worth noting. SFF implies somebody was abandoned by their fanbase, LFF implies there's not enough fanbase to go around. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/24/2008 7:09:56 AM | message detail |
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I predict Liquid Snake > Luigi ...in Round 3. X bombs and Luigi finally gets the better of his brother in the weirdest LFF/SFF/XDFF the contest has ever seen! --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/24/2008 7:19:28 AM | message detail |
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Wouldn't that just make for a lot of fun... ...unfortunately for Liquid though, he's going to be SFF'd and LFF'd hardcore before then. He's going to lose his MGS:TTS support to both Luigi AND Bowser, and Phoenix's arm is just as prominent if not moreso in any of his games than Liquid's in even MGS2. Haha. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2008 7:42:46 AM | message detail |
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Man, everytime I check the results on this match it hurts. It had all
the parallels to MM/Yoshi/Knux/KOS-MOS and I ignored them. I just
should have used the same logic for when I picked MM > Yoshi. I mean Zelda isn't a fan-favorite like Yoshi, and Mario is better at SFF than MM, but still, this should have been an easy 4 points for me. still, i would have expected better from mario --- Moltar Status: augh Fei/Knuckles/Mario/Zelda - Bracket: Mario > Knuckles - Vote: Knuckles (16/24) |
| JcastEyo | Posted 9/24/2008 7:47:20 AM | message detail |
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and everyone was right, Knuckles isn't as popular as he used to be I mean if Peach was in here, how would she do? Zelda seems to be doing a good job of representing Damsels-in-distress --- "Who knew that Cloud's carbon copy (who he is a carbon copy of) would screw up my bracket... that's the real Cloud's job!" |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 9/24/2008 7:48:52 AM | message detail |
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Peach would be closer to Fei than to Knuckles. Probably even under Fei --- Today's prediction: Murphy 41.75% - Zelda 22.60% - Kunckels 22.10% - Fong Long Wrong 13.55% Status: OK |
| JcastEyo | Posted 9/24/2008 7:51:31 AM | message detail |
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i think a lot of nintendo fanboys would actually jump on the chance to
have Peach rush through the brackets, but then again, who knows Fei is doing horribly though, i guess they might not put another Xenogears character... sucks b/c i love xenogears (not xenosaga) --- "Who knew that Cloud's carbon copy (who he is a carbon copy of) would screw up my bracket... that's the real Cloud's job!" |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 9/24/2008 7:52:18 AM | message detail |
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what the what? Fei doing horribly? Most people thouyght he'd be around 10-11% --- Today's prediction: Murphy 41.75% - Zelda 22.60% - Kunckels 22.10% - Fong Long Wrong 13.55% Status: OK |
| JcastEyo | Posted 9/24/2008 7:54:05 AM | message detail |
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eh... you'd think a cult following would do him justice but the night vote could swing things a bit, crazy prediction... --- "Who knew that Cloud's carbon copy (who he is a carbon copy of) would screw up my bracket... that's the real Cloud's job!" |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/24/2008 8:34:30 AM | message detail |
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if Peach was in here, how would she do? Peach would likely be losing to Fei right now. Not only is Peach no Zelda in strength (Zelda gets 66% on her one-on-one before SFF), but Mario would have a much easier time SFF'ing her than he is with Zelda since she's much weaker and from Mario's series. We've also seen Peach flop in this format when pre-SSBB MK beat her in R1 last year (the match insinuates pre-SSBB MK would get 54.25% on Peach one-on-one). All of this can reasonably have Peach be doing 10+% less than Zelda right now...and Zelda's beating Fei by 10.51% at this time. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/24/2008 8:36:07 AM | message detail |
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Man, everytime I check the results on this match it hurts. It had
all the parallels to MM/Yoshi/Knux/KOS-MOS and I ignored them. I just
should have used the same logic for when I picked MM > Yoshi. Haha, Mega > Yoshi burnt me last year and I used that match to guide me for this one. The contest gets us all in some way or another..... --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 9/24/2008 9:04:30 AM | message detail |
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Looks like Fei kinda tanked, but he's holding up pretty well here in
the late morning. He'll probably crash once the afternoon hits, though. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| KrahenProphet | Posted 9/24/2008 9:55:27 AM | message detail |
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Wow, I knew I shouldn't have second guessed myself on Zelda. --- Official 4th place winner of Summer Contest 2k4 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 9:56:44 AM | message detail |
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let's all go worship Master Chief now There's always Sora! I just realized that Dante and Riku may meet in this contest. That'd be a good opportunity to gauge KH's day vote vs. the Chief's. Riku's is generally very good, from what I remember. For the record, Mario is currently getting 73.00% on Fei, 66.66% on Knuckles, and 61.27% on Zelda. Zelda is getting 63.10% on Fei and 55.84% on Knuckles. Knuckles is getting 57.48% on Fei. Fun facts: Mega Man got 73.29% on KOS-MOS last year (close to what Mario's got on Fei now), and Knux was getting 59.58% on her, which is more than he's got on Fei right now. Fei is probably going to drop big time when the ASV hits, but he's certainly done well with his contest shot. Vincent got 56.42% on Zelda last year, which ought to give you a pretty good idea as to the LFF in this match. It almost seems like Zelda's hurting Mario more than Mario's hurting her. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2008 10:53:00 AM | message detail |
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Master Moltar Posted 9/24/2008 10:42:46 AM message detail Man, everytime I check the results on this match it hurts. It had all the parallels to MM/Yoshi/Knux/KOS-MOS and I ignored them. I just should have used the same logic for when I picked MM > Yoshi. I mean Zelda isn't a fan-favorite like Yoshi, and Mario is better at SFF than MM, but still, this should have been an easy 4 points for me. still, i would have expected better from mario I'm in the same boat. I had Zelda for the longest time then switched for no apparent reason, only realizing I made a mistake after the brackets closed. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/24/2008 10:59:13 AM | message detail |
| Good stuff from Mr. Fong Wong. While we're not
sure just how much he's aided from going up against a Nintendo
overload, I think we can all agree this is pretty impressive. He's not
as much a "keeper" as Zack or Altair, but I wouldn't object to bringing
him back next year. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2008 11:00:27 AM | message detail |
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I object Your fodder character got into the contest and sucked, no need to nominate him ever again. We don't need another Guybrush, or set of Fails characters. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/24/2008 11:02:19 AM | message detail |
| would you object if we got a best fictional
character contest and i started a mega rally for Ariel and her sisters
and maybe sebastien --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 9/24/2008 11:14:32 AM | message detail |
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Hmm, Knuckles is trying to do something here. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/24/2008 11:20:02 AM | message detail |
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Fei > Tales and Guybrush --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 9/24/2008 11:30:48 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, putting Fei with Guybrush, Jade and Luke isn't really fair. You
can't deny that Fei's worth something here, he had a pretty nice night
vote and he hasn't been falling apart this afternoon. Given the right
match up, he could definitely capitalize. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 11:33:33 AM | message detail |
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Fei's doing fine with the afternoon vote. No one's really doing
anything with it though, good or bad. Nothing wrong with having Fong
Wong in the contest. There are times you have to go "LOL BT" and go on. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Xuxon | Posted 9/24/2008 11:34:24 AM | message detail |
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afternoon vote hasn't QUITE started yet... --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 11:37:35 AM | message detail |
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It's 2:30 in the afternoon. When does the afternoon vote start? I don't mean the ASV. I mean the time between the morning vote and the after school vote. It's sort of a mini-night vote. Well, not really. Just characters who are bad during the day aren't quite as bad at that time. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| transience | Posted 9/24/2008 11:40:27 AM | message detail |
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generally, it's from 9am to 2pm. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2008 11:42:37 AM | message detail |
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The ASV doesn't start 'til around 3 or 3:30, doesn't it? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| transience | Posted 9/24/2008 11:43:12 AM | message detail |
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about 3, but sometimes it seems to start at like 2:30. see yesterday's match. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/24/2008 11:47:54 AM | message detail |
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With all the talk we do about after-school votes, morning votes, night
votes, the Nintendo Power Hour, and probably more while we give hourly
updates pretty often...why don't we have some breakdowns that group
those specific hours together? While every hour is nice, I think it
could be cleaner and more practical to demonstrate who is better or
worse with such time periods. I'm sure problems to this include weekend matches and determining the best time to shift into another time period, but if there was something we can generally agree to, I think it'd be cool and simple to use. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
