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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 574
| Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:07:14 PM | message detail |
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Power Hour is over. Looks like Mario will struggle to even get to 40 before the morning. Zelda and Knuxs might go pretty even, and Fei should gain overnight. Depending no how much of a lead Zelda builds overnight, and how strong Knux's day vote is...could be interesting. --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims Kiddy Grade's Eclair & C.C.* |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/23/2008 10:07:25 PM | message detail |
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yeah so L-Block, Sandbag, Companion Cube, and The Dog are all goin to the finals you heard it here first people --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 9/23/2008 10:08:06 PM | message detail |
| Its Fei's time to dominate now! |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2008 10:08:24 PM | message detail |
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we saw it when he was 2% away from solid snake. L-Block, man. I don't put much into that. I think Auron could have done what the Chief did there. Auron beat Ryu and Bowser down just as well as the Chief beat Luigi and Ganondorf down and there was very little overlap there. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/23/2008 10:08:39 PM | message detail |
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Mario will slowly gain votes, though. Just as Bowser and Luigi did.
It's just that while we're so early in, the percentage shifts while his
lead grows by at least a hundred votes every 5 minutes so we think he's
doing worse than he really is. --- Justin's CB Points: 20 | Points After this Round: 22 Today: Mario > Knuckles | Tomorrow: Megaman X > Mudkip |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:09:18 PM | message detail |
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I'm gonna laugh once that match starts and Sandbag ends up with 10%. And I say this as someone who has L-Block winning and the Cube lasting two matches. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/23/2008 10:10:41 PM | message detail |
| Hey, at least Knuckles has never lost to a Square character in the first round. |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2008 10:11:02 PM | message detail |
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he's gonna lose some updates tonight FeiFAQs believe --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:11:20 PM | message detail |
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Fei is absorbing Zelda's votes. Damn, son. Fei is just taking off. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/23/2008 10:11:38 PM | message detail |
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Argh defiance of historical trends. Fine, that does it, time to reassert contest predictability with the power of my WILL ALONE BOLD PREDICTION: If Zelda can't get to a lead of 1500 overnight, Knuckles beats her outright. Night y'all! --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 10:12:12 PM | message detail |
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because he won out on a Nintendo split twice over. that's still unproven Irrelevant. Look at how he blew out Yuna, Alucard, and Liquid and tell me he's not a beast in this format. And Luigi didn't exactly get wrecked by Dante (hint: Dante would probably beat Luigi 1v1), nor did Yuna come at all close to defeating Ganondorf or Luigi... the weakening ability of raw nintendo SFF matches is overrated It's quite a large fanbase to split, and I don't think enough people realize that. And although people are happy to discard L-Block results for the sake of being L-Block results, he did come without a few thousand votes of Solid Snake in the semis last year. If you're going to seriously argue Auron over Master Chief you might as well humor Auron over Solid Snake while you're at it. Master Chief is simply out of the league of near elites in this format. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Xuxon | Posted 9/23/2008 10:13:04 PM | message detail |
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L-Block, man. I don't put much into that. it was the only match where he was facing stronger characters. i see that as something very dangerous to ignore, even if it is L-block. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:13:17 PM | message detail |
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Fei is almost closer to Knuckles than Knuckles is to Zelda. Let's do this. --- CB7 Score: 16/24 - Two in a row. English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2008 10:13:22 PM | message detail |
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"Don't call me son cuz you sure ain't my pops." believe --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| ZFS | Posted 9/23/2008 10:13:57 PM | message detail |
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fei stats and discussion --- let's mosey |
| Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 10:14:25 PM | message detail |
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He was for an update a while back, before Knux started his Zelda stalling shenanigans. Bold Prediction: Fei takes 2nd place in a few updates tonight! --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2008 10:15:27 PM | message detail |
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And although people are happy to discard L-Block results for the
sake of being L-Block results, he did come without a few thousand votes
of Solid Snake in the semis last year. If you're going to seriously
argue Auron over Master Chief you might as well humor Auron over Solid
Snake while you're at it. Master Chief is simply out of the league of
near elites in this format. but.. I wouldn't humor Master Chief over Solid Snake, so this is irrelevant. you're the only one talking Chief up to these levels. it was the only match where he was facing stronger characters. i see that as something very dangerous to ignore, even if it is L-block. this is a decent point, but that match is when the Block took off and put the internet on its back. I really can't trust that, in the same way that I can't say Link definitely beats Cloud last year: who the hell knows with that thing sucking up 50,000 votes. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| NotTerrafire | Posted 9/23/2008 10:16:31 PM | message detail |
| yeah! that's more like it, girl. zelda shoots off to take down mario. |
| chaosarcher07 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:16:53 PM | message detail |
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Those random spikes make it hard for me to believe that Knuckles has any chance of coming back. --- http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=29 CBVII Current Score: 18/24 |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2008 10:18:45 PM | message detail |
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Knuckles is toast here. if you go down 700 votes in one hour, you
better have a damn good reason to expect a comeback. Knuckles has no
reason to come back. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2008 10:19:46 PM | message detail |
| He might look better with the morning vote, but Zelda is no slouch in the day. Knuckles was done when he was down 100 votes before the freeze. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:19:49 PM | message detail |
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Sir are you implying that Fei can not come back from this vote deficit. --- CB7 Score: 16/24 - Two in a row. English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:20:24 PM | message detail |
| Knuckles is long gone- Crono only led Sonic by 900
or so after an hour, and Zelda had over 700 at that point, in a 4-way
where Zelda/Knux are combining for well under 50% of the votes. --- Character Battle VII --- Score: 20/24 --- T-73 (356 way) Bracket: Mario > Zelda --- Vote: Zelda |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:20:33 PM | message detail |
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also mario sucks --- CB7 Score: 16/24 - Two in a row. English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:21:01 PM | message detail |
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Mario is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....Free Faaaaaaaaaaalling!!! --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims Kiddy Grade's Eclair & C.C.* |
| Xuxon | Posted 9/23/2008 10:22:02 PM | message detail |
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not to mention zelda's day vote is not really comparable to crono's --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2008 10:25:43 PM | message detail |
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STALL SUCK IT KNUCKLES --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:26:09 PM | message detail |
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It begins --- CB7 Score: 16/24 - Two in a row. English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/23/2008 10:27:15 PM | message detail |
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Where's the joke? I'm not saying he's doomed to leave in Round 2,
but if Sandbag makes it alongside him, how is Sonic not a clear
underdog against Auron? Sandbag, however legit he ends up being, is
made entirely from Joke and Nintendo. These last two years have shown
us that Sonic Team is now a part of that entirely Nintendo group. Sonic
is sharing the poll with another Nintendo character and a guy who is
not only beastly in this format, but is chomping at Sonic's heels in
terms of intrinsic strength, anyway. How does Sonic win this? The post I quoted presumes that last year wasn't a massive anomaly in terms of joke success, for one thing (and there's no evidence at all to the contrary yet). It also presumes that Sandbag - who doesn't have a fad behind him either, as opposed to the likes of Bidoof, Mudkip - would touch Sonic. I take umbridge more with the fact that you think Sonic will struggle to make it past Sandbag tbh. The joke here is that you compare an untested, fad-less character in Sandbag with an L-Block who had unbelievable momentum, unbelievable fad power and the fact that he participated in the year of teh lulz when it comes to joke characters, who were having considerably more success across the board. And then there's a whole bunch of other stuff that just screams "WRONG, WRONG, OBVIOUS JOKE, WRONG". Like the fact that Sonic might not even be (and probably isn't) totally Nintendo at this point, or the fact that 'only' SSB players will get the sandbag joke and they'll hardly be inspired to vote for him over Sonic, an actual player in the game (I don't care how bad he is, even though I personally like him). And, of course, I have to point to Samus/Mario 05 except this is about a million times more obvious. This is ****ing Sonic vs. Sandbag we're debating here. **** off. That's why I thought that was a joke post - because there's so much wrong with saying "Sonic lost handily to a joke character last year and he's up against another this year" when you actually compare the circumstances. --- How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? "You're...the ****!" - Otacon to Snake, MGS4 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 10:34:17 PM | message detail |
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Yesss! Stall! Stall! but.. I wouldn't humor Master Chief over Solid Snake, so this is irrelevant. you're the only one talking Chief up to these levels. Well, that's the mistake of the stats "gurus" then for being closed minded with their conceptions of 1v1 stats, resistant to change. I don't know what to say. When a character gets within 3% of another, you'd better at least humor the result swapping around if you held the match again. Especially with L-Block around. It might've screwed the match up in favor of Master Chief... but really, it just might've screwed the match up in Snake's favor. You can't be sure. The raw match results of last year's contest support that MC > Snake is a hell of a lot more feasible upset than Sonic > Master Chief at this point, and that's the unbiased (yes I know it's difficult to consider me unbiased with the Chief, but just look at the %s) truth, if you're not wearing 1v1 X-Stat blinders or assuming L-Block favored Chief in favor of not rocking the boat. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2008 10:38:28 PM | message detail |
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Chief had Halo 3 last year. Nobody plays Halo 3 since CoD4 came out, along with the 20 other 360 hits in the last year. Snake had MGS4 3 months ago and already had a huge strength advantage. You could argue Chief > Sonic, but Chief > Snake isn't happening any time soon. |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2008 10:38:37 PM | message detail |
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well, I question Master Chief having the same kind of momentum that he had last year. that was the perfect storm. I know, you'll come back with "no one drops after a release", but seeing how disappointed people ended up being with Halo 3 as compared to COD4, I have to expect that to impact him in some way. I have already said that I considered MC > Sonic for the entire month, and won't be surprised at all if it happens. all I'm saying is that it's not set in stone like this topic would have you believe. I saw someone suggest Sonic losing to Kirby earlier.. I mean, come on. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2008 10:41:14 PM | message detail |
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I know, you'll come back with "no one drops after a release", but seeing how disappointed people ended up being with Halo 3 as compared to COD4, I have to expect that to impact him in some way. Exactly. Halo 3 came out smack in the middle of the contest last year, there's no way Chief will ever have that kind of advantage. Just like Mario will never have another Mario/Cloud. I can see Chief tangling with guys like Dante now, even in 1v1, but outright beating Sonic is questionable, and Snake is completely out of the question. |
| paraboxx | Posted 9/23/2008 10:44:49 PM | message detail |
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Okay...we're considering a post-Halo 3 drop, but not a post-Brawl drop? Just getting the facts straight, here |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:45:44 PM | message detail |
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Okay...we're considering a post-Halo 3 drop, but not a post-Brawl drop? Brawl just came out.. so this wouldn't be a comparable situation yet. That would be next year... --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2008 10:48:39 PM | message detail |
| it's not really a Halo 3 "drop", more like the
spike that it produced mid-contest will have dissipated by now. I
expect Mega Man to go through the same thing thanks to MM9, though
obviously on a much smaller level. I expect him to be weaker next year. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| voltch | Posted 9/23/2008 10:49:15 PM | message detail |
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if brawl's been flopping how the hell does Halo 3 keep MC strong? especially after the reception it got from those who played it. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/23/2008 10:49:41 PM | message detail |
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Okay...we're considering a post-Halo 3 drop, but not a post-Brawl drop? As H3 came out mid-contest, thus (theoretically) bloating MCs levels meaning he'll (theoretically) drop this year and Brawl was released out of season, yes. Think of 07 Chief as MC on adrenaline. Short, sharp boost. (theoretically) --- How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? "You're...the ****!" - Otacon to Snake, MGS4 |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/23/2008 10:51:04 PM | message detail |
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Aw yeah Knuckles, stalling to Fei is always a good sign. Any kind of comeback right now seems impossible. Seriously Mario you were supposed to hold Zelda back >_> --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. The 2008 Guru contest winner > Me |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2008 10:52:16 PM | message detail |
| Chief had his boost last year. He'll only weaken over that year with all the big releases that came out on his system and in his genre. Just like Super Mario Sunshine was enough to put Mario over Cloud but did nothing for him the following year. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 10:55:28 PM | message detail |
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I'm not saying you're not humoring MC > Sonic at all. I'm saying that based on what we've seen, MC > Snake is a more likely
upset than Sonic > MC, and you're confident enough to take one, yet
not humor the other. To me the whole situation just reeks of X-Stat
blinders, that's all I'm saying. "Snake is in the top half of the noble
nine now, he can't possibly...!" Amd yeah, say all you want about MC dropping, but I will throw out exactly the fact you expected me to of "when does a release cause someone to drop." Especially considering X-Box 360's growing momentum on this site. MC dropping because of Halo 3 just sounds like wishful thinking for people betting against him, to be honest. At worst I'd think it makes him break even, which is more than enough to make him a threat to Snake. I'll give a Halo 3 drop a chance, because we're seeing a potential Nintendo drop as we speak. Even if it is a Brawl backlash... considering this is GameFAQs, I'd expect all signs of a Halo 3 backlash to be amplified and all signs of Brawl backlash to be muffled with respect to the silent voterbase of the Internet. But really, I wouldn't even chalk that up to Brawl as much as the ridiculous Wii fanboyism on the site going down. And really, if that is the case, where does that Wii fanbase have to go? The PS3 and the 360... Master Chief could drop, but he could be even stronger this year, too. We really can't know until we see him in a few matches, I guess. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2008 10:57:15 PM | message detail |
| Not really. MC has nothing going for him this year whereas Sonic had Brawl and has that DS Bioware RPG coming out. Not only that, but Sonic is already stronger than MC to begin with. I will be very surprised if Chief beats Sonic. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/23/2008 10:57:58 PM | message detail |
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Chief's gonna have his hands full with Raiden, forget about Sonic and Snake. --- CB7 Score: 16/24 - Two in a row. English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| transience | Posted 9/23/2008 10:58:08 PM | message detail |
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oh man, are you calling me on x-stat blinders? because, according to stats, Chief > Sonic is the logical pick, and the popular one in here! yeah, don't think this is a Brawl drop. not at all. it's more like a Wii drop since that system is empty. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/23/2008 11:01:07 PM | message detail |
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And here it is, the first cut! Wait it was by Fei :( --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. The 2008 Guru contest winner > Me |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2008 11:01:14 PM | message detail |
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Finally! A Fei Cut! --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims Kiddy Grade's Eclair & C.C.* |
| Link The Hylian | Posted 9/23/2008 11:04:03 PM | message detail |
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Man I'd love to see MC fall from last year just to see Lopen put his foot in his mouth... --- "The PS2 had 12,000,000 pre orders. To give you an idea of how many people that is that's over half of the world population." - DifferentialEquation |
| Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 11:05:12 PM | message detail |
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but Sonic is already stronger than MC to begin with Based on what? Your 2006 1v1 X-Stats that have no bearing on Master Chief in this format? Halo 3 was primarily hype last year... recall it wasn't released until the last quarter of the contest. If Sonic stands to gain from Brawl, so does Master Chief stand to gain from Halo 3, even post release. Less, sure, but there's still gain potential. Not EVERYONE got Halo 3 RIGHT when it came out. Chief's primary argument for a boost though is a shift in demographic towards the 360, which should be more significant than any release, even Brawl, can give you. oh man, are you calling me on x-stat blinders? Yes, I'm saying you're wearing the X-Stat blinders... because you don't exactly need to see the so called stats of 2007 (I treat them with a grain of salt) to see that Master Chief did a lot better than Sonic last year. You're just wearing 2002-2006 flavored X-Stat Blinders, that's all. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 11:08:24 PM | message detail |
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And damn, man, that wasn't your father's 1-2 vote cut... that was a 15 voter. Let's go Fei! *next update* Don't rush yourself, Fei! --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/23/2008 11:11:08 PM | message detail |
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To be fair, you can't base Sonic's performance on Knuckles and Shadow,
they weren't in Brawl. But yeah MC > Sonic is looking good right now. Unlike my bracket, I would've finally see my account in the top 50 if Knux could comeback, and I don't only got Sonic in the finals but also this plumber who is falling like a rock right now. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. The 2008 Guru contest winner > Me |
