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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 573 (ASCII)

LeonhartFour | Posted 9/23/2008 6:21:34 PM | message detail
Tidus/Serge LFF! That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 6:23:04 PM | message detail
Chrono Cross has never shown any signs of popularity here, though, aside from doing well on the top 10 FAQs/boards. Even on GotY polls and stuff I don't think it broke 10%. Xenogears, of course, beat Pokemon GSC, and does even better with FAQ/board ranking.

Fei > Knuckles (not on his own strength but through massive SFF/Sonic team flopping) tomorrow, watch for it...!
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 6:24:21 PM | message detail
And Aya Brea also went even with Donkey Kong

2002 is ENTIRELY a different beast than 2004. It's dated, but most things that happened in 2004 are at least feasible by today's standards.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
SuperJanitor | Posted 9/23/2008 6:24:30 PM | message detail
~*ST*~ or some ****


wate


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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/23/2008 6:30:10 PM | message detail
You know, I was thinking that Liquid might not only get past the second round. He might make it out of the division. I think he can give X a run for his money. I guess we'll have to wait and see how X does in a few days. Only 8 Gurus have Liquid getting out of the division, for what it's worth.
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/23/2008 6:30:53 PM | message detail
aww yeah Leonhart believes
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i am false
ZFS | Posted 9/23/2008 6:31:01 PM | message detail
Not bad for Bowser. Managed to get over 45%.

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let's mosey
SonicRaptor | Posted 9/23/2008 6:34:38 PM | message detail
2002 is ENTIRELY a different beast than 2004. It's dated, but most things that happened in 2004 are at least feasible by today's standards.

Indeed, the CNet sale I think really shook things up around here and brought in a flood of new voters. Even then, 2002 was a really strange year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/23/2008 6:36:31 PM | message detail
Preliminary stats for this match:

Bowser – 50.00%
Phoenix Wright – 34.71%
Geno – 26.56%
Deckard Cain – 24.27%
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi
red sox 777 | Posted 9/23/2008 6:37:55 PM | message detail
For what it's worth (almost nothing since this was from 2000), Xenogears doubled Chrono Cross in this poll.

What's the best Squaresoft game of all time?
Chrono Cross 5.03% 441
Chrono Trigger 21.53% 1886
Final Fantasy VI (III) 15.5% 1358
Final Fantasy VII 21.48% 1882
Final Fantasy IX 8.57% 751
Final Fantasy Tactics 8.31% 728
Xenogears 11.27% 987
Other 8.3% 727
TOTAL VOTES 8760
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Character Battle VII --- Score: 16/20 --- T-204 (716 way)
Bracket: Bowser > Phoenix --- Vote: Bowser
M80TheWolf | Posted 9/23/2008 6:39:27 PM | message detail
Not almost nothing, exactly nothing. 8000 votes + 8 years ago = mega lulz

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hungry like the wolf
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 6:39:38 PM | message detail
More importantly, Xenogears outdid Final Fantasy Tact--

Total votes = what?
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
transients | Posted 9/23/2008 6:40:52 PM | message detail
I like how we just pretended FF8 never happened
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zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat
zfs: come on mgs4
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/23/2008 6:41:03 PM | message detail
Considering Cross was competing with Trigger and Xenogears was competing with...well, nothing. Of course it did better.
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/23/2008 6:41:26 PM | message detail
FF what now?

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/23/2008 6:41:45 PM | message detail
I like how we just pretended FF8 never happened

Well, it won Game of the 20th Century, so that's enough for me!
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi
ZFS | Posted 9/23/2008 6:41:47 PM | message detail
Chrono Trigger 21.53% 1886
Final Fantasy VII 21.48% 1882


whoa there

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2008 6:41:48 PM | message detail
i can see fei getting 987 votes
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Bowser/Deckard/Geno/Phoenix - Bracket: Bowser > Phoenix - Vote: Bowser (12/20)
Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/23/2008 6:43:35 PM | message detail
I don't think Fei's vote count will be quite so low, but he won't break 10%
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Justin's CB Points: 16 | Points After this Round: 20
Today: Bowser > Phoenix | Tomorrow: Mario > Knuckles
GodOfGaming | Posted 9/23/2008 6:46:37 PM | message detail
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2008 7:06:40 PM | message detail
M80TheWolf
Posted 9/23/2008 9:39:27 PM
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#211 Not almost nothing, exactly nothing. 8000 votes + 8 years ago = mega lulz


That was back when this site was way more "hardc0r3". Re-run that poll today and Chrono Cross fails to break 3%

Noone likes that abortion of a game that crapped all and killed a great series.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2008 7:07:49 PM | message detail
I can't see Fei doing that bad. Xenogears did beat Pokemon in 2004, plus he's got major SFF between the other 3 characters. I can see him breaking 15%.
Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/23/2008 7:11:12 PM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#222)
I can't see Fei doing that bad. Xenogears did beat Pokemon in 2004, plus he's got major SFF between the other 3 characters. I can see him breaking 15%.


In 2004 >.>

But I didn't realize that. Luckily, there are no Pokemon in his match.
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Justin's CB Points: 16 | Points After this Round: 20
Today: Bowser > Phoenix | Tomorrow: Mario > Knuckles
UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/23/2008 7:25:33 PM | message detail
Nice to see there was just limited ASCII use and little whining this time around.

And dammit, Ex. You finally got me back for that RKO at Swift's place. Hook line and sinker, I won't deny it :D

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/23/2008 7:26:14 PM | message detail
Noone likes that abortion of a game that crapped all and killed a great series.

Not to be nitpicky or anything, but Chrono Trigger was only one game. Unless you count Radical Dreamers, which kinda invalidates your point anyway because it sucked.
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CB7 Score: 12/20 - Finally got one right.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/23/2008 7:27:31 PM | message detail
I picked Phoenix because of the Bomberman/Geno comparison. They're basically even going by their performances against Squall, but given how long ago those matches were Geno was bound to trend down a lot. It was just a guess, but it was a good guess.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2008 7:30:06 PM | message detail
Fair enough, but it ruined a potentially good series.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2008 7:30:41 PM | message detail
And am I the only one here who would take Geno > Phoenix in a heartbeat 1v1? As well as Bomberman?
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 7:31:03 PM | message detail
By the way, guys, might as well use this ASCII for some contest talk here.

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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 7:33:25 PM | message detail
And am I the only one here who would take Geno > Phoenix in a heartbeat 1v1? As well as Bomberman?

And yeah, I would. I'd take Geno > Bomberman, Geno > Phoenix, and Bomberman > Phoenix, in 1v1 situations. Stats say Geno is below Bomberman and Phoenix but I don't buy it.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
M80TheWolf | Posted 9/23/2008 7:35:53 PM | message detail
Bomberman > Phoenix for sure for me... I really don't know where I'd fit Geno into the equation. I'm pretty sure I'd take Bomberman over him, but for Phoenix/Geno I'd have a really damn tough time making a decision.

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Malakuko | Posted 9/23/2008 7:37:49 PM | message detail
I'd take Phoenix over Geno 1v1 any day >_>
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/23/2008 7:42:36 PM | message detail
Pic is up. Dunno if no one cares or no one noticed or whatever.

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charmander6000 | Posted 9/23/2008 7:44:26 PM | message detail
Match VII: Fei Fong Wong vs. Knuckles the Echidna vs. Mario vs. Zelda

Information:

Name: Fei Fong Wong
Game/Series From: Xenogears
2007 Results: Did not enter

After nominating my favourites I tend to throw some support to characters that never made it before. Sadly with the 128 character bracket last year most of my supported characters got nominated. Fei moved up the list and made it to my nomination list. Now all we need to do is get Seifer in and my list from 2004 will be completed.

Name: Knuckles the Echidna
Game/Series From: Sonic series
2007 Results: 2nd in round 1, 3rd in round 2

The Sonic characters don’t seem to perform well in this format. Last year Knuckles almost lost to Rikku and if it weren’t for Vaan she may have beat him. This year Knuckles is the underdog going into the match and will require some help from another red man to win.

Name: Mario
Game/Series From: Mario series
2007 Results: 1st in round 1, 1st in round 2, 2nd in round 3, 3rd in round 4

Mario had a decent showing last year and with Super Mario Galaxy being released Mario is looking forward to a productive contest. The only thing slowing him down is Nintendo and Nintendo-like characters in every match he’s in.

Name: Zelda
Game/Series From: The Legend of Zelda series
2007 Results: 2nd in round 1, 4th in round 2

After being beaten worse than expected by Vincent Zelda is forced to go up against Link, the end result is her looking worse than Bidoof in the match. Zelda is now going up against another Nintendo character. Zelda characters have never been SFF by another Nintendo character outside of the series, but there will be LFF present.

Analysis:

Poor Fei, he finally gets in only to be up against three strong opponents. Unless something terrible happens to Zelda there isn’t any other option for Fei other than to come in last. Xenogears may have beaten Pokemon G/S/C back in 2004 though that was a time when Pokemon was hated. The game did perform decently against Final Fantasy despite getting SFF by it so Fei won’t be total fodder in this match.

Mario should have no problem getting in first in this match though it will be interesting to see how much Super Mario Galaxy has improved his strength. Mario may be an icon and be known to all, but being in a LFF match in every round a recent game like Galaxy will be good to help swing undecided fans towards him.

The real debate begins with Knuckles and Zelda. Whether you believe that Sonic characters are affected by Nintendo characters Zelda probably shares a bigger fanbase with Mario than Knuckles. The question become of whether or not Mario has the ability to SFF Zelda instead of just LFF. The only Stronger Nintendo vs. Zelda matches we’ve seen in contest history were Samus vs. Ganondorf in 2005 and Samus vs. Zelda in 2006 and by looking at the vote totals both characters were LFF each other, but Samus didn’t SFF Ganondorf and is she did it was unnoticeable. Of course a week later we all witnessed Mario SFF Samus into the ground so he may have what it takes to deal some damage to the Zelda characters.

Knuckles is hoping that Zelda will get SFF enough to let him squeeze by. Zelda’s performance wasn’t that impressive though we were comparing her to her performance in the 2006 females’ bracket so our opinion may be a little bit biased. I think we the recent release of Super Mario Galaxy that Mario will be able to SFF Zelda and cause Knuckles to win by the skin of his teeth.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Mario > Knuckles

charmander6000’s Prediction: Mario – 45.26%, Knuckles – 23.63%, Zelda – 21.26%, Fei – 9.85%

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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls
Character Battle 2008: Points 12/20 Today's Match: Bowser > Phoenix
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 7:44:32 PM | message detail
the 50 is for your age

get it because it's old

on a random note am I the only one tired of the Mario "hat tipper" pose?
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
Xuxon | Posted 9/23/2008 7:45:16 PM | message detail
i never liked that shot in the first place
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DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/23/2008 7:46:30 PM | message detail
Looks like this will be the first match to fail to break 130k
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls
Character Battle 2008: Points 12/20 Today's Match: Bowser > Phoenix
ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/23/2008 7:46:56 PM | message detail

And dammit, Ex. You finally got me back for that RKO at Swift's place. Hook line and sinker, I won't deny it :D


=P woot, at least it worked to some effect!

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Arsenal FC 4-0-1 Pts: 12 Pos: Top of the league, where we belong.
character battle vii ; final fantasy vii do you believe
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 7:49:33 PM | message detail
Man, Char, I dunno how you can give Fei so many props in the write-up yet still have him at 9.85%. Granted, I guess KOS-MOS only got ~14% against Mega/Knux/Yoshi.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
smitelf | Posted 9/23/2008 7:49:59 PM | message detail
Who keeps making backgrounds the same color as the character?
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Official Queen ***** of the Universe!
Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08!
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 7:53:20 PM | message detail
Thank you, Smitelf, I was like "wow maybe I'm just an ass because I'm the only one complaining about this." Friggin terrible. Contrast is our friend!
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/23/2008 7:54:55 PM | message detail
Contrast only works if the color compliments the character. <_<
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CB7 Score: 12/20 - Finally got one right.
English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 7:58:14 PM | message detail
Give me red on other color over red on red any day. Compliments character or not. You'd think Knuckles was Epsio with that background if you catch my drift.

... not to be overly harsh to Zen or anything. <_< >_>
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/23/2008 7:58:45 PM | message detail
Compliments are for praising, complements are for completing
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turnturnturn your brain in
turnturnturn your brain in
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/23/2008 7:58:59 PM | message detail
Unless it's light blue. One thing I have learned from making pics; try not to overuse light blue backgrounds, as it goes well with god damn near everything. >_>

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/23/2008 7:59:25 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter -Remove-
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CB7 Score: 12/20 - Finally got one right.
English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_
smitelf | Posted 9/23/2008 7:59:36 PM | message detail

KleenexTissue50 (#242)
Contrast only works if the color compliments the character. <_<



Knuckles would look better with a bubblegum pink background than a red background that is the same shade he is. He's like a big red blob.
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Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08!
ZFS | Posted 9/23/2008 7:59:49 PM | message detail
Gotta love the gray.

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let's mosey
Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/23/2008 8:00:03 PM | message detail

KamikazePotato (#245)
Unless it's light blue. One thing I have learned from making pics; try not to overuse light blue backgrounds, as it goes well with god damn near everything. >_>


That's too true. I try to use colors that are similar to what they're wearing and/or what color they actually are.
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Justin's CB Points: 16 | Points After this Round: 20
Today: Bowser > Phoenix | Tomorrow: Mario > Knuckles
Lopen | Posted 9/23/2008 8:00:29 PM | message detail
I knew that, dammit. I blame Kleenex.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe
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