GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 572
| transients | Posted 9/22/2008 5:57:07 PM | message detail |
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if you're relying on a youtube video to boost a PC NPC I think we're in
big trouble. like Kleenex said, it's not impossible, but Phoenix could
arguably hang with Diablo and Deckard cannot possibly be close to him. I give Geno a better chance to beat Phoenix. Deckard's biggest strength is that it's essentially three Nintendo characters in his pack. --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:57:45 PM | message detail |
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You seriously think Phoenix is getting 34% on Ganondorf? Seriously? No. I don't think Phoenix would beat Diablo but Deckard Cain will be lucky to be half a Diablo. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/22/2008 5:58:03 PM | message detail |
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MoogleKupo141 (#131) i dont see what that has to do with what i said. --- *is Dranze* Liquid/Luigi/Roxas/Sho - Bracket: Luigi > Liquid - Vote: Luigi (8/16) |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 5:58:18 PM | message detail |
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(you need to do something stupid again, i'm running out of material) I'll probably do something pretty dumb here soon. I'm moving home which means I will start hanging out with my best friend soon. He's the guy that helped me steal the shopping cart from Wal-Mart. --- Arsenal FC 4-0-1 Pts: 12 Pos: Top of the league, where we belong. character battle vii ; final fantasy |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:58:45 PM | message detail |
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Just out of curiosity, what are the Ace Attorney games' sales like these days? --- CB7 Score: 8/16 - Damn you Altair. English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:59:00 PM | message detail |
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i dont see what that has to do with what i said. You said "fallacy" then I said that thing about "fallacy" there's a pretty clear connection. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 5:59:41 PM | message detail |
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2.8mil worldwide for the entire series. They don't have single game sales where I was looking for them though. That's through 11 titles, apparently. --- Arsenal FC 4-0-1 Pts: 12 Pos: Top of the league, where we belong. character battle vii ; final fantasy |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:59:56 PM | message detail |
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According to lolvgchartz, they've all sold around 12k in America (except for T&T which sold 21k). --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| transients | Posted 9/22/2008 6:00:03 PM | message detail |
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you needed two people to steal a shopping cart? man I once had too much to carry home so I just grabbed a cart and walked home everyone that came over for the next two weeks were like "why is there a shopping cart in your driveway" --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/22/2008 6:01:07 PM | message detail |
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12k what. That can't be right. --- CB7 Score: 8/16 - Damn you Altair. English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 6:01:40 PM | message detail |
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Which is why its obligatory to add lol in front of vgchartz. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| transients | Posted 9/22/2008 6:02:24 PM | message detail |
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think I remember the original selling like 60k. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney was very hard to find in stores shortly after its North American release because of a shortage due to unexpectedly high demand.[3] Capcom shipped more units in March 2006.[4] They later issued a new shipment in June 2006, which sold out within a week. As of February 2007, Capcom has shipped 100,000 copies of Phoenix Wright.[5] --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/22/2008 6:03:55 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, that sounds a bit closer to what I was thinking. Really I was
just kinda curious about T&T and AJ in comparison to the first two,
just to see how much (if any) steam the series picked up. --- CB7 Score: 8/16 - Damn you Altair. English is my second language. And Sho made me like math. -_HarpuiaX_ |
| satai_delenn | Posted 9/22/2008 6:05:36 PM | message detail |
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you needed two people to steal a shopping cart? man I once had too much to carry home so I just grabbed a cart and walked home everyone that came over for the next two weeks were like "why is there a shopping cart in your driveway" At one point I had a friend who was using a shopping cart for a desk chair for a week or so. He wouldn't tell anyone why. --- Attention, all yoctograms! (It's x2) DIE! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/22/2008 6:19:55 PM | message detail |
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there's a pretty clear connection. but i didn't simply 'toss it around'. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them”- Vivi0198 |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/22/2008 6:24:24 PM | message detail |
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He's the guy that helped me steal the shopping cart from Wal-Mart. The cart you promised to give me a picture of way back AND NEVER DID. --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 NOMINATE KNUCKLES THE ECHIDNA! |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/22/2008 6:32:34 PM | message detail |
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Anyone else remember when Link and Cloud fought to 140,000+ votes and we were astonished? Now look what we get on a daily basis! --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 Looking for a new sig. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/22/2008 6:39:07 PM | message detail |
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The funny thing, I'm thinking Bowser is going to be the first Brawl character to exceed his expectations rather than disappoint. Well, I know Luigi didn't exactly exceed expectations, but he didn't disappoint either. He pretty much did what he was supposed to do. Liquid's the impressive one here. And at least Sho broke 10,000 votes, more than those TotA characters can say! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| smitelf | Posted 9/22/2008 6:39:23 PM | message detail |
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| RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/22/2008 6:41:15 PM | message detail |
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Anyone else remember when Link and Cloud fought to 140,000+ votes and we were astonished? Now look what we get on a daily basis! Yeah, it's crazy. According to Alexa, Gamefaqs.com used to be in the 400s in traffic rank; now it's 166. --- A surveillance camera!? http://img.imgcake.com//lastcalvin&hobbes.jpg |
| smitelf | Posted 9/22/2008 6:41:23 PM | message detail |
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I like your stats, KP. I think they've got Wario and Zack too low,
personally, but your guess on them is as good as any. Your 2nd match
stats are nonsense, IMO, but there's not much to be done about it
without factoring in LFF. For the 3rd match, I honestly think using
Duke as a base makes more sense than Kefka given Kefka's horrible pic -
it would be like using Ganon's stats as a base for a pig Ganon match,
IMO, which is why Marth is way higher than he should be. The fourth match is the hardest to figure out, X-stat wise, but I think you're on the right track with using a high Guybrush. Perhaps something closer to his '04 X-stat value would be even better (not that I think stats that old have much value, but the higher Guybrush goes, the more sense the match seems to make). Just my 2c. Your stats are a good starting point. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 6:46:08 PM | message detail |
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Thanks, smitelf, and I agree that different methods could have been
taken (and I might redo them with those Duke/Guybrush suggestions just
to see how it turns out). Div 1 ius just really hard to figure out. Today's match should be much easier to do, and be more accurate. Luigi seems pretty static from last year. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/22/2008 6:47:24 PM | message detail |
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Preliminary stats: Luigi – 50.00% Liquid Snake – 45.45% Roxas – 32.30% Sho Minamimoto – 16.84% Liquid's come back down to earth a whole lot with the day vote, and man, Sho's been consistent as it gets for the second half of this match. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| doomsdayduck9 | Posted 9/22/2008 6:55:47 PM | message detail |
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Albion wants me to tell you guys that WoW is actually gonig to be down
most of tomorrow due to patch day, so this shoudl be a big boost for
Deckard. --- WARNING: Do not let Dr. Mario touch your genitals - He's not a real doctor. |
| transients | Posted 9/22/2008 6:57:15 PM | message detail |
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aww yeah Albionfear tune in tomorrow for talk about a Xenogears fansite linking to us and boosting Fei to Vincent levels --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2008 6:57:38 PM | message detail |
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augh blizzard characters everytime with them i swear --- Moltar Status: augh Liquid/Luigi/Roxas/Sho - Bracket: Luigi > Liquid - Vote: Liquid (8/16) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/22/2008 6:58:10 PM | message detail |
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All right, Roxas at least made it to 19%! I'm surprised Luigi never reached 40% (Well, he's still got time, but at this rate, he won't make it) considering he's been flirting with it all day long. He's been over the 39.5% mark for nearly 12 hours now. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| transients | Posted 9/22/2008 7:00:02 PM | message detail |
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remember that Riku rocked Yoshi in the daytime. it was a weekend, but still. KH is where it's at when it comes to day vote. I've been very impressed by Liquid's resilience today. dude's gonna stay over 33%. --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 7:05:47 PM | message detail |
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Based on Duke 2007: Marth: 22.59 Duke Nukem: 20.87 Niko: 18.59 Kefka: 17.85 I kind of like this version better. Based on Guybrush 2004: Altair: 24.88 Lucario: 15.78 Isaac: 15.03 Guybrush: 10.54 Not sure how I feel about this one. Altair seems too high (although he did do very well). Up to you guy's discretion, I guess. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| transients | Posted 9/22/2008 7:09:03 PM | message detail |
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okay, the words "constant Guybrush" should never be used. the problem
with these stats - well, besides the fact that stats in four-ways are
highly dependent on who's in the poll - is that they're holding weak
characters constant and hoping everyone else falls in line. that's
very, very inaccurate - it may end up working, but I'd chalk it up to
luck as much as any statistical accuracy. --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 7:11:18 PM | message detail |
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You have a better idea? No one's saying these are perfect. I'm just trying to make some sense of this crazy contest. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| transients | Posted 9/22/2008 7:13:15 PM | message detail |
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this contest is nonsensical thanks to the format. combine that with
4-way x-stats being some weird thing that I don't think very many
people even understand and you're just grasping. I don't say this to mock you, it's just... do you even know how the stats are calculated? --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| Billy Blaze | Posted 9/22/2008 7:15:42 PM | message detail |
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I'm down with these stats just so I can keep hearing percentages based off guybrush. --- Redtooth |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 7:18:41 PM | message detail |
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Nope. I really don't see what you're getting at. I'm making vague stats off of vague character values. Which is as good as any other guess we've got here. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/22/2008 7:19:53 PM | message detail |
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I think the next match is the last sound prediction we'll get for the next while. --- Justin's CB Points: 12 | Points After this Round: 16 Today: Luigi > Liquid | Tomorrow: Bowser > Phoenix |
| transients | Posted 9/22/2008 7:22:03 PM | message detail |
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the idea of x-stats, in my mind, is to have accurate reflections of
strengths. these things are just wildly inaccurate and you'd be better
off assigning educated guesses to someone and going from there. sorry, go on. I won't rant any more. --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/22/2008 7:23:43 PM | message detail |
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is it me or was Luigi's best hour.. not the ASV? man have things changed. --- *is Dranze* Liquid/Luigi/Roxas/Sho - Bracket: Luigi > Liquid - Vote: Luigi (8/16) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 7:25:37 PM | message detail |
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tranny, I wouldn't touch making the real X-stats with a ten foot pole.
I tried to read how they were originally made and it made my head spin.
Heck, the mock stats I'm making now are based on a calculator someone
else made. I'm not trying to act like these are official or anything. Although I disagree with the assigning educated guesses thing. That has a high chance of being woefully inaccurate as well. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/22/2008 7:26:00 PM | message detail |
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Luigi's best time has always (or at least since cn started his updater) been in the morning. And I say we need a new term: BG = Base Guybrush. All stats shall be calculated and debated relative to BG. --- Mustache...and green... |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/22/2008 7:27:28 PM | message detail |
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i guess it being 11AM isn't weird... is it? --- *is Dranze* Liquid/Luigi/Roxas/Sho - Bracket: Luigi > Liquid - Vote: Luigi (8/16) |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/22/2008 7:31:11 PM | message detail |
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10-11 is actually kinda weird, that's a little later than the morning
vote usually lasts. But that was actually Link's strongest morning hour
(he was better in the ASV), so maybe the morning vote has extended out
a bit. --- Mustache...and green... |
| M80TheWolf | Posted 9/22/2008 7:34:00 PM | message detail |
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Although I disagree with the assigning educated guesses thing. That has a high chance of being woefully inaccurate as well. Which was exactly his point... it's just as inaccurate as taking an educated guess, so it's not really worth anything. Go ahead and continue to do them if you're having fun with it, but there's so many things wrong with it, it's essentially worthless. Also the question was posed before, what Bowser would have to get to make me sure he advances next round, and I'm going to say 58%+. Might seem insanely high, and there's no way I'm expecting him to get there, but with the competition he has, and how Luigi and Liquid just looked in today's match, anything short of complete domination isn't going to make me feel good about Bowser. --- hungry like the wolf |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/22/2008 7:34:36 PM | message detail |
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so maybe the morning vote has extended out a bit. could it be the west coast? --- *is Dranze* Liquid/Luigi/Roxas/Sho - Bracket: Luigi > Liquid - Vote: Luigi (8/16) |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 7:43:52 PM | message detail |
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tranny, I needed help stealing a shopping cart because it was 5 miles
away from my house, and we dragged it home by holding onto it on the
outside of my friend's passenger window. >.> --- Arsenal FC 4-0-1 Pts: 12 Pos: Top of the league, where we belong. character battle vii ; final fantasy |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/22/2008 7:46:55 PM | message detail |
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Jesus, if Bowser got 65% tomorrow I'd consider him a lock for the
finals. Even 58% would mean he gets out of his division without
breaking a sweat. You guys realize that the only characters to break
50% last year were Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Samus, Snake, and
Mega Man, right? 60% is just Link and Cloud and 70% is Link by a hair.
It's really hard to increase your percentage once you get up there. --- Mustache...and green... |
| smitelf | Posted 9/22/2008 7:50:56 PM | message detail |
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In order for me to be sure that Bowser advances, I'd need to see him
pulling at least 50%. In order for Bowser to at least have a shot,
he'll have to get...eh, 44%? --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| transients | Posted 9/22/2008 7:52:11 PM | message detail |
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characters aren't locked into a certain percentage though. the opponents have a lot to do with it. again, an inferior Mario RPG character, a handheld lawyer sim character and an NPC from a PC game. that's pretty down there as far as strength goes. I can't see Phoenix breaking 25%, I can't see Geno doing well with Bowser in the poll, and I can't see a PC NPC doing well. all that's left is Bowser. I agree that 60% is insane and out of reach, but I wouldn't be too surprised if Bowser blew us away here. --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 9/22/2008 7:52:31 PM | message detail |
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About the whole "Cain getting out of this division" argument: lol Having played Diablo 2 for many years (2 years straight then on and off for many more years), and having played Diablo 1 a little bit less then that, I can safely say that Cain isn't going anywhere. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| smitelf | Posted 9/22/2008 7:53:23 PM | message detail |
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Actually, I'll revise that. If Bowser manages 48% tomorrow, he'll be
looking very good next round. If he gets 44% or higher, he'll have a
shot. Any lower than that, and IMO Bowser is in trouble next round.
Maybe 44% sounds arbitrary, but when you see where Luigi is here
against better competition (~40%), 44% seems like a reasonable thing to
ask from Bowser to stay in the running. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2008 7:53:53 PM | message detail |
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Eh, Bowser has a shot at 50%. Ganon hit 49% on his and this fourpack is weaker (at least should be) and has opponents that Bowser can SFF. --- Moltar Status: augh Liquid/Luigi/Roxas/Sho - Bracket: Luigi > Liquid - Vote: Liquid (8/16) |
