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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 572

Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2008 4:05:10 PM | message detail
Liquid's holding up better than I thought in a match with a Nintendo, KH and KH-lite character. Luigi isn't even doing much of anything.

THROUGH THIS ARM
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Liquid/Luigi/Roxas/Sho - Bracket: Luigi > Liquid - Vote: Liquid (8/16)
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/22/2008 4:13:18 PM | message detail
Hmm. I'd say that Division 1 alone was better than the suckfest that was the Summer 2004 Contest.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/22/2008 4:21:42 PM | message detail
Frog's matches were better than Division 1.
HaRRicH | Posted 9/22/2008 4:28:42 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong's matches are better than the 2004-summer contest.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/22/2008 4:29:48 PM | message detail
Like the moon over
the day, my genius and brawn
are lost on these fools
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/22/2008 4:52:28 PM | message detail
With a quote like that who thinks Bowser won't SFF Geno?
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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:02:56 PM | message detail
Pic's up.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:04:17 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb7/cb7-06.jpg

About what we expected.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/22/2008 5:05:47 PM | message detail
Damn, Phoenix looks suave.
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:06:35 PM | message detail
Psh!

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2986/phoenixwrightdx8.png

Sure he's looking in the wrong direction, but he knows he's going to win, so why not be smug?

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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/22/2008 5:07:37 PM | message detail
Deckard looks ready to deliver an ass kicking in that pic.
swirIdude | Posted 9/22/2008 5:07:40 PM | message detail
No one really stands out in that picture.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/22/2008 5:10:55 PM | message detail
dec picture, everyone looks fine i guess
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Liquid/Luigi/Roxas/Sho - Bracket: Luigi > Liquid - Vote: Liquid (8/16)
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:14:22 PM | message detail
Geno's got his only picture
Bowser's got a meh picture
Deckard's got... I don't know if he's got anything better, but i'ts not very good
Phoenix's got a standard badass lawyer pose
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/22/2008 5:14:28 PM | message detail
Phoenix has already gotten that picture twice before. Still like the one he got last year against Magus/Bomberman/Crash. No one really has an advantage here. Well balanced pic.

For there being three PS1-stars and one Nintendo character

I don't buy this Same Console LFF, and I don't know why people keep bringing it up. It's just a stretch, and it doesn't show up nine times out of ten. This is just overjustifying Liquid's performance. If he's as strong as this performance implies last year, he should've been stronger than the Yuna that owned him.

And Alucard didn't look that great compared to Yuna either.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/22/2008 5:16:14 PM | message detail
I missed out on posting my Altair/Lucario/Isaac/Guybrush match analysis, but I think I was better off not doing it!

Division 2, Match 2

Bowser

He’s lightning in a bottle! He’s earthquake in a can! He’s the Koopa King, Bowser! After majorly disappointing in the last contest, he’s out to show he’s still got what it takes. Fortunately for Bowser, he doesn’t have much to worry about from the first round fourpack. He’s far above anyone here. He’s going to win this fourpack, and hopefully, he’ll look good doing it. He certainly hasn’t looked that good the last two years.

Deckard Cain

Deckard Cain was one of the few characters I had no idea who he was upon first glancing at the bracket. Apparently, he’s from Diablo. The history of PC characters hasn’t been very strong in these contests. Probably the strongest is…Diablo himself, maybe Arthas. Either way, from what I’ve heard of Deckard, he’s probably more along the lines of a Kerrigan than he is an Arthas. He probably finishes fourth, barring some massive LFF beatdown for…

Geno

…This guy! Why does he keep getting in instead of the far superior Mallow? Well, I guess he does have a cool look and cool moves about him, but still. Geno can’t catch a break in these contests, and for as weak as he is, he needs one. He’s been stuck with Squall in both of his contest appearances before this one, and if people thought he was being SFF’d those times, it’ll be worse for him here. Don’t forget that Bowser was in Super Mario RPG as well, so that’ll hurt Geno big time. He doesn’t have much chance of advancing here. He’ll have to hope that somehow his fanbase is independent of Bowser, which I seriously doubt.

Phoenix Wright

This is my first contest as a Phoenix Wright fan! Huzzah for me! This time, I’ll get to enjoy thoroughly Nick’s chances of advancing to the second round. Last year, he had a thrilling battle with Bomberman and led Magus for the first thirty minutes of the match, resulting in one of the more feel-good stories of the contest. This time, Phoenix is the favorite to take second place, and I feel he shouldn’t have any problem doing so. Deckard isn’t a threat, in my opinion, and Geno’s getting nerfed by Bowser. We shouldn’t have to worry too much about Wrighto losing this one. The possibility that he’s prone to Nintendo SFF concerns me, but Geno will be feeling the pain worse than he is anyway.

Shouting Objections Helps
Carry Attorney Here
To Outstanding Achievements

Bowser – 47.45%
Deckard Cain – 8.76%
Geno – 16.54%
Phoenix Wright – 27.25%
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:17:49 PM | message detail
What % would Bowser have to put up for you to feel safe in him overcoming Liquid next round?

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:19:48 PM | message detail
I'm calling it before the Analysis Crew screws up...again.

Phoenix > Bowser
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SFF_potential | Posted 9/22/2008 5:21:55 PM | message detail
with how the contest has gone so far, i'm calling Deckard>Bowser for this next match
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/22/2008 5:23:35 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2waH5ONRiA
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therealmnm | Posted 9/22/2008 5:26:08 PM | message detail
I don't buy this Same Console LFF, and I don't know why people keep bringing it up.

Just because you don't buy it, people shouldn't bring it up?
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Ngamer64 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:28:18 PM | message detail
Zack: 23.58
Wario: 19.68
Cecil: 11.25
Jade: 4.42

Link: 53.38
Zidane: 22.76
Shadow: 20.25
Luke: 8.61

Marth: 24.15
Duke Nukem: 22.3
Niko: 19.87
Kefka: 19.07

Altair: 22.35
Lucario: 14.18
Isaac: 13.51
Guybrush: 9.47


Hey hey, nice work on these stats! I did something similar last season, but the numbers I was getting back didn't look nearly so nice as this, probably because I was using all 1v1 stats to try to calc 4way values on everyone.

I pretty much buy all of those values... this would indicate that Zidane/Zack could be a barnburner, but of course what the x-stats can't take into effect was how badly Zack was probably held back by Cecil, so I'm still not liking Zidane's chances. But wow, the second matchup of R2 could really be insane... Lucario should be a non-factor in terms of advancing of course, but he could easily weaken Marth to the point where Altair/Duke/Marth becomes the most evenly matched fatal three-way we've ever seen. That would be so fun to watch.

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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/22/2008 5:29:33 PM | message detail
why do people keep on saying theres no chance of upsets when every match except for todays was an upset
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:30:15 PM | message detail
because that was division 1

This is division 2.


Deckard is going to be horrible.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:33:54 PM | message detail
Thanks, NGamer. And yeah, Cecil's terrible performance indicates SFF/LFF with Zack, which also points to Zack being a little stronger than those stats show, but I didn't know how much it was so it's left up to your discretion.

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Lopen | Posted 9/22/2008 5:35:07 PM | message detail
Deckard Cain has a good chance, I think the Diablo 2 fanbase will get the joke. I, at least, being a D2 fan think Deckard is the funniest joke entry in the bracket.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:36:34 PM | message detail
Deckard Cain has absolutely no chance.

I'm the guy who's constantly annoying everyone to consider every upset. Deckard Cain has no chance.

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Lopen | Posted 9/22/2008 5:38:45 PM | message detail
And yes, Abilion, I just called Deckard Cain a joke character again. As someone who actually knew that Deckard Cain was not an item salesman I think my outlook on the D2 fanbase is a bit better than yours.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/22/2008 5:39:06 PM | message detail

_Hogger_ (#123)
why do people keep on saying theres no chance of upsets when every match except for todays was an upset


because it is a fallacy.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:40:30 PM | message detail
why do people keep saying Link is going to win every match when every match except the second didn't have link winning
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:42:00 PM | message detail
The word "fallacy" gets thrown around so often that it's lost all meaning
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 5:43:31 PM | message detail
I'm the guy who's constantly annoying everyone to consider every upset. Deckard Cain has no chance.

oh man this is going to be fun tomorrow.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:45:30 PM | message detail
It will be fun watching Phoenix lead on Bowser for 10 seconds before going on the Ulti-blowout the competition!

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 5:46:17 PM | message detail
Phoenix will go from leading Bowser for 10 seconds to losing to Deckard Cain. Phoenix needs a hammer IMHO

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/22/2008 5:46:44 PM | message detail
The funny thing, I'm thinking Bowser is going to be the first Brawl character to exceed his expectations rather than disappoint. hooray irony
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:46:51 PM | message detail
Phoenix doesn't need a hammer, because he found the murderer of JACK HAMMER!
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ZFS | Posted 9/22/2008 5:47:35 PM | message detail
Deckard Cain in last place here we come

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:47:47 PM | message detail
The funny thing, I'm thinking Bowser is going to be the first Brawl character to exceed his expectations rather than disappoint. hooray irony

Which reminds me, I will repeat my question of what % you think Bowser needs to be safe against Liquid.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 5:48:59 PM | message detail
Bowser would need to get 65% or so to make me think he was safe against Liquid. Seriously, he and Luigi are going to murder each other next round and Liquid NOT taking first place would be an absolute SHOCK to this GameFAQs forum member.

And man I don't usually gloat about getting things right but you guys are making this awful tough on me should Deckard win.

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transients | Posted 9/22/2008 5:49:14 PM | message detail
today's match isn't going to say much at all Bowser/Luigi/Liquid unless Bowser just bombs. Bowser's going against a SFF'd Mario RPG character, a PC NPC and a lawyer sim handheld character. Bowser could blow past 50% and it wouldn't really phase me.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:51:47 PM | message detail
...Well, probably, yeah.

Fun fact: Twice as many Gurus picked Deckard Cain to advance then Geno, for a grand total of 22 people that didn't put faith in Wrighto.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 5:52:16 PM | message detail
Seriously I don't know why you guys think Deckard has zero chance. Anyone that's played D2 knows who he is(and if you know who he is, chances are you've chuckled at him or at least like him a little bit).

And D2 itself has sold about double the entire Ace Attorney series. And after what we've seen from Diablo, Arthas, and Blizzard as a whole in these contests, saying Deckard has no chance(ESPECIALLY after what we've seen so far) is just pretty dumb IMO.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:53:45 PM | message detail
almost as dumb as getting lost on expressway 271 (you need to do something stupid again, i'm running out of material)

Deckard has a slim chance, but he's far more likely to bomb than to make waves.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:53:53 PM | message detail
If you think Deckard is going to be anywhere near Diablo (you know, the guy with his name in the title) then you're crazy. Deckard is probably going to be Kerrigan-level, and I would take Phoenix over Kerrigan in a heartbeat.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/22/2008 5:54:05 PM | message detail
And after what we've seen from Diablo, Arthas, and Blizzard as a whole in these contests


We haven't seen anything really great from Diablo

and this guy is no Diablo

and you guys really all underestimate the hispanic satanist vote on Diablo's moderate success. The hispanic satanists will not be voting Deckard.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 5:55:08 PM | message detail
Another thing going for Deckard, we've already seen one character that's in a popular/hilarious youtube video exceed expectations in this contest.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/22/2008 5:55:36 PM | message detail
Okay now you're stretching it.

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ZFS | Posted 9/22/2008 5:56:04 PM | message detail
"popular hilarious youtube" -- this sounds like bad news

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 5:56:35 PM | message detail

We haven't seen anything really great from Diablo


You seriously think Phoenix is getting 34% on Ganondorf?

Seriously?

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 5:56:52 PM | message detail
and yeah before we're taking me seriously on that last one I was kidding there

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