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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/21/2008 9:56:49 PM | message detail
Oh well, when Cloud beats Link all the points I didn't get in the prior rounds will become irrelevant, and HM, hochi and I shall claim our prize money awww yea

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/21/2008 9:57:19 PM | message detail

Karma Hunter (#400)
The Brawl update was three hours after the polls opened.

And...?


L-Block will be a two-time contest champ?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 9:57:36 PM | message detail
Remember what we once said about the stats topic and the board having diverging consensus every once in awhile?

The Guru took Luigi too, twice as many picked him as Bowser. Any Bowser>Luigi person I saw didn't seem very confident in their picks. I've just never seen anyone so sure of it. >_>

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ZFS | Posted 9/21/2008 9:57:46 PM | message detail
ExTha knows

Come on Cloud biggest blowout in a fourway here we come

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/21/2008 9:58:51 PM | message detail

ExThaNemesis (#401)
Oh well, when Cloud beats Link all the points I didn't get in the prior rounds will become irrelevant, and HM, hochi and I shall claim our prize money awww yea


Your half-points may get you on the leaderboard after L-Block repeats his championship victory if you're lucky!
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/21/2008 10:00:55 PM | message detail
Wow Luigi, keep it up!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 10:01:46 PM | message detail
Wow, he's holding up pretty well.

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/21/2008 10:01:55 PM | message detail
I have Snake > Link at the end. I honestly think this is feasible.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/21/2008 10:02:02 PM | message detail
So final %... who will be higher?

Sho or Luke?
MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/21/2008 10:02:32 PM | message detail
Yeah, Liquid isn't doing jack. Shame, that he teased us at the beginning.
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Lopen | Posted 9/21/2008 10:02:45 PM | message detail
Hey, don't forget me, dammit. I'm on the Cloud train!
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ZFS | Posted 9/21/2008 10:03:19 PM | message detail
Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud

are we !

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 10:03:24 PM | message detail
I am now officially starting the X>Luigi train.

What? All the cool kids are starting trains.

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smitelf | Posted 9/21/2008 10:03:45 PM | message detail
Liquid won't beat Luigi this round, but his performance here bodes extremely well for the next round, unless Bowser pulls out all the stops tomorrow to prove us wrong.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/21/2008 10:05:35 PM | message detail

smitelf (#414)
Liquid won't beat Luigi this round, but his performance here bodes extremely well for the next round, unless Bowser pulls out all the stops tomorrow to prove us wrong.


Go Phoenix > Bowser!
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Majin Lou | Posted 9/21/2008 10:06:41 PM | message detail
Come on Liquid, start cutting Luigi during the night to look even better for next round's match!

<_<
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/21/2008 10:06:50 PM | message detail
Loving Luigi's goofy updates. It's like Luigi or L Snake have short-term cyclical vote spikes.
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Lopen | Posted 9/21/2008 10:07:04 PM | message detail
Hey, Cloud will rally back to defeat Link in the next round after Sephiroth is gone!

Sephiroth, wrapping his arms around Cloud... holding his sword firmly... he tenderly whispers to Cloud... "believe" and Cloud is then defeated as Master Chief shoots him in the head.

The point is Cloud beats Link!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/21/2008 10:08:26 PM | message detail
Hell, I'd love for Cheif to beat Cloud.
Imagine the LULZ to be had.


To bad its not happening.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2008 10:09:00 PM | message detail
Oh man, this is so awesome for Liquid.

But the morning and day vote is going to wreck him so hard.

(unless mgs4 gives its characters non-day vote sucking powers let's hope)
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2008 10:14:29 PM | message detail
Does anyone really think this is ALL MGS4, though? As much as I'd like to believe that, I can't - based on where he is right now Liquid is projected to get around 46% on Luigi. Obviously that will fall hard, but even just setting him equal to Alucard means that's about a one jillion point boost in strength. The only other thing I've heard bandied about is SFF with Roxas, but that would be, uh, HURTING him I think...
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/21/2008 10:18:21 PM | message detail
MGS4, combined with a possible slight shift in site demographics.

Or major, whatever
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2008 10:38:19 PM | message detail
Site demographic shift wouldn't explain it unless it were intrinsically tied to MGS4 - yeah, I've harped on Nintendo losing a step, but Luigi's still looking good here, especially for the end. Liquid's just impressed like hell.

Now to wait for the inevitable cut...

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Okay whatever holding Luigi to a 2 vote update is just as good as an actual cut night everyone
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voltch | Posted 9/21/2008 10:42:33 PM | message detail
pic wise sho looked pretty damn good,i should try out his game.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 9/21/2008 10:43:10 PM | message detail
Jesus, Liquid is now literally doubling Roxas. Looks like I'm getting full points today for sure :)

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/21/2008 10:51:05 PM | message detail
Raiden > Master Chief train who wants some of this.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/21/2008 10:52:01 PM | message detail
For as badly wrecked as my bracket is, my Bowser > Liquid Snake pick actually is looking good now.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/21/2008 11:04:11 PM | message detail
Oh look,

Liquid CUT
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/21/2008 11:04:40 PM | message detail
Luigi is going to own up the day vote, however.
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transience | Posted 9/21/2008 11:05:04 PM | message detail
Liquid's not just going to cut, he's going to win entire hours.
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creativename | Posted 9/21/2008 11:06:26 PM | message detail
I have Bowser>Luigi next round. Although I didn't spend much time on my bracket and didn't know that Luigi was heavily favored there.

I suppose Luigi being favored makes sense, but why is Bowser such a huge dog? I think it's feasible that Bowser can win there. Bowser held off SFF against Mario back in the day against better than I think Luigi would, at least. And I just think he's intrinsically stronger by a bit (though I could be wrong on that).
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creativename | Posted 9/21/2008 11:09:52 PM | message detail
I think Luigi goes down some overnight, then goes up some during the day, and doesn't finish too far from where he is now; while Liquid increases overnight but bleeds % to Roxas during the day. Not because of SFF, just because of opposite patterns.

Liquid beating either Bowser or Luigi does seem to have a good shot, with the possibility of him winning the match outright there as well.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/21/2008 11:10:46 PM | message detail
:|

I have Luigi > Bowser even though I knew some SFFing was going to happen. I should've followed the SFF instinct on that one.
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transience | Posted 9/21/2008 11:16:53 PM | message detail
Luigi > Bowser is pretty simple -

Luigi equalling Bowser's performance on Kirby;
Luigi beating Ganondorf last year (pic's a factor here of course, but he did);
Luigi performing better in those Mario character polls

this is not to say that Luigi's going to win, but there's been a clear trend towards Luigi lately and Bowser's been disappointing all over the place ever since 2005. Luigi/Bowser's a 50/50 pick that people have just gravitated to one side on.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/21/2008 11:17:35 PM | message detail
And Luigi has Luigi's Mansion as a slight cushion.
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smitelf | Posted 9/21/2008 11:20:14 PM | message detail

creativename (#431)
I have Bowser>Luigi next round. Although I didn't spend much time on my bracket and didn't know that Luigi was heavily favored there.

I suppose Luigi being favored makes sense, but why is Bowser such a huge dog? I think it's feasible that Bowser can win there. Bowser held off SFF against Mario back in the day against better than I think Luigi would, at least. And I just think he's intrinsically stronger by a bit (though I could be wrong on that).



I'm honestly not too sure where they both stand against each other, but I'm betting on Luigi being better than Bowser in this format. Last year showed that Bowser is pretty weak to LFF, and Luigi held up well against Ganondorf. However, the weirdness with Shadow/Link this year makes me wonder if there was Bowser/Shadow weirdness last year, i.e. perhaps Bowser is indeed still as strong as ever in this format and will beat Luigi. Before last year, I would have been confident in Bowser > Luigi, but now I'm not sure where either is relative to the other.
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Lopen | Posted 9/21/2008 11:32:43 PM | message detail
Shadow/Link this year makes me wonder if there was Bowser/Shadow weirdness last year, i.e. perhaps Bowser is indeed still as strong as ever in this format and will beat Luigi

Even if there was, it was enough to cause Bowser to lose fairly soundly in a match where most had him as a victor, whereas in Luigi's case he handled Ganondorf (someone he was favored to lose to... and someone who I'd think would be potentially more damaging than Shadow) pretty well. Bowser might not suck in the format in general, but he only needs to be worse with SFF than Luigi, which we have a lot of evidence of right now.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/22/2008 12:26:06 AM | message detail
I thought that Bowser would beat Luigi. Sure it was 5 years ago but Bowser easily won over Yoshi in 2003, and then Yoshi won over Luigi in 2004.

And if Luigi wins over Bowser in round 2 then we got Bowser > Yoshi > Luigi > Bowser. Damn this format!
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/22/2008 12:31:07 AM | message detail
Bowser > Yoshi > Luigi > Bowser

More proof for them being all equal then! >_>
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/22/2008 12:33:30 AM | message detail
I've got Bowser > Luigi. I think Bowser > Yoshi and Yoshi > Luigi are enough for me. Luigi/Bowser VS Kirby hows me they were indirectly close like we expected before anyway, plus the difference is nothing that can't be made up through B> Y and Y > L. I think the match can easily go either way and Liquid's now making me think he could make an upset really happen next round, but I'm bigger on comparing SMB-characters against a SMB-character than a Kirby character for this match.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/22/2008 1:02:37 AM | message detail
I'm not too concerned about the round 2 match with Bowser and Luigi. Right now, I'm more concerned about how Geno will perform tomorrow.

First, I think Geno might suck tomorrow since Bowser could possibly SFF him to hell. Then there's also a possible chance that Geno will take little damage from SFF, being a lesser known character from a Nintendo game. Finally, the release of Super Mario RPG on the VC could possibly give a small boost to Geno:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/wii/data/946619.html

The Super Mario RPG board for the Wii is actually way more active than the one for the SNES version.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/22/2008 1:20:39 AM | message detail
My Bowser > Liquid pick is looking pretty good, though I may regret changing from Liquid > Bowser by the time this is said and done. But overestimating Bowser against a guy named Snake is one of the things that I usually do.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/22/2008 1:21:59 AM | message detail
Bowser has historically overperformed to hell and back against guys named Snake.

But that was also due to the picture. Hopefully you can get a Liquid **** picture, greatone, heheh

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transience | Posted 9/22/2008 1:25:56 AM | message detail
this is the hugest stall I've ever seen.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/22/2008 1:31:48 AM | message detail

ExThaNemesis (#443)
But that was also due to the picture.



Hey, Snake made his best performance against L-Block with the Solid Sprite! Maybe Snake overperformed!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/22/2008 2:20:27 AM | message detail
Any Bowser>Luigi person I saw didn't seem very confident in their picks. I've just never seen anyone so sure of it. >_>

I'm sure of it. I see no reason why Bowser > Yoshi > Luigi won't hold true.
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Lopen | Posted 9/22/2008 2:36:56 AM | message detail
I see no reason why Bowser > Yoshi > Luigi won't hold true.

My reasoning is that it's four way format. A lot of the people voting for Bowser over Yoshi come from outside the core Mario fanbase, and those people will be more likely to abandon him for Liquid/Phoenix/Deckard Cain (still not callin that a lock) than those from the "core" which will favor Luigi.
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Calintares | Posted 9/22/2008 2:46:45 AM | message detail
hochiminih157 went down to gamefaqs, he was looking for a sig to steal.
He was in a bind 'cos he was not behind: he was willin' to make a deal.
When he came across this young guy lurking in the stat topic and lurking'it real hot.
And hochiminih157 jumped up in the stat topic and said: "Guy let me tell you what:
"I bet you didn't know it, but I'm a bracket maker too.
"And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
"Now you play a nice little bracket, man, but give hochiminih154 his due:
"I bet a my sig against your sig, 'cos I think I'm better than you."
The guy said: "My name's Calintares and it might be a sin,
"But I'll take your bet, your gonna regret, 'cos I'm the best that's ever been."
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M80TheWolf | Posted 9/22/2008 2:52:21 AM | message detail
Jesus tap dancing christ.

....how in the **** is this happening right now? Man this is absolutely crazy, and essentially ruins my bracket. I don't see any way that both Luigi and Bowser advance next round now, and seeing as I have Mudkip > Mario, it's pretty heavily reliant on all three of the Mario crew being there.

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Seginustemple | Posted 9/22/2008 2:59:50 AM | message detail
hochiminih157 went down to gamefaqs, he was looking for a sig to steal.
He was in a bind 'cos he was not behind: he was willin' to make a deal.
When he came across this young guy lurking in the stat topic and lurking'it real hot.
And hochiminih157 jumped up in the stat topic and said: "Guy let me tell you what:
"I bet you didn't know it, but I'm a bracket maker too.
"And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
"Now you play a nice little bracket, man, but give hochiminih154 his due:
"I bet a my sig against your sig, 'cos I think I'm better than you."
The guy said: "My name's Calintares and it might be a sin,
"But I'll take your bet, your gonna regret, 'cos I'm the best that's ever been."



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