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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 571
| hochimnih157 | Posted 9/21/2008 10:00:01 AM | message detail |
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You guys are trying to diminish Altair with Guybrush doing "well".
Remember Auron/Pyramid Head last year? Face it, your division is going
to continue to bleed red because you failed to comprehend that Altair
had good strength. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=55 |
| transience | Posted 9/21/2008 10:00:19 AM | message detail |
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all but the 7/10 -- who even knows who's stronger between Niko and Wario. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2008 10:02:33 AM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#089) Eh, Isaac's not doing anything that crazy. Most people had him in the high teens-low 20's range anyway. The only one doing anything impressive here is Altair (and Guybrush a little 15% goddam) Biolizard28 (#091) Pretty much. Lucario should be the strongest of the D/P Pokes and with him bombing like this...get all pokes not named pikachu or mewtwo outta here. --- Moltar Status: augh Altair/Guybrush/Isaac/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Altair - Vote: Lucario (6/12) |
| hochimnih157 | Posted 9/21/2008 10:02:34 AM | message detail |
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Niko would beat Wario. Kefka would beat Wario. M. Bison would beat
Wario. Therefore, Niko would beat Wario. Not too hard actually. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=55 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 10:02:39 AM | message detail |
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With no prior knowledge of the contest... 1) Link 9) Niko Bellic 12) Lucario 13) Isaac 6) Shadow The Hedgehog 3) Altair 7) Duke Nukem 2) Zack Fair --- 1) Link 12) Lucario 6) Shadow The Hedgehog 7) Duke Nukem --- 1) Link 6) Shadow The Hedgehog --- Link ...Ouch. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/21/2008 10:10:23 AM | message detail |
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man i cant believe we got Lucario instead of Charizard btw i wouldnt make much of saying they're fodder because of Guybrush; remember, they're splitting. i'm sure they are. --- *is Dranze* Altair/Guybrush/Isaac/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Altair - Vote: Lucario (6/12) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 10:14:03 AM | message detail |
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Isaac needs around 8.2 votes an update to overtake Lucario. Magical comeback gogogo --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 9/21/2008 10:21:31 AM | message detail |
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*Just saw the poll for the first time ever today* WHAT THE **** LUCARIO BRAWLFEAR has screwed me over yet again. --- 6/12 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII NP: Lucario > Altair |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/21/2008 10:26:29 AM | message detail |
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Time | Altair . | Guybrush | Isaac . . | Lucario 01:00 | 39.68% | 12.25% | 23.95% | 24.12% 02:00 | 42.03% | 12.05% | 22.36% | 23.56% 03:00 | 40.93% | 14.14% | 23.48% | 21.45% 04:00 | 40.97% | 16.11% | 22.61% | 20.31% 05:00 | 41.38% | 18.41% | 20.17% | 20.04% 06:00 | 40.16% | 20.68% | 19.26% | 19.89% 07:00 | 40.92% | 20.58% | 19.40% | 19.11% 08:00 | 38.61% | 19.77% | 20.36% | 21.26% 09:00 | 41.65% | 16.92% | 17.83% | 23.60% 10:00 | 41.35% | 13.53% | 21.02% | 24.10% 11:00 | 42.29% | 12.96% | 21.11% | 23.63% 12:00 | 43.21% | 12.58% | 21.26% | 22.95% 13:00 | 44.28% | 12.65% | 20.53% | 22.54% Holy crap that's awesome. --- Mustache...and green... |
| Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/21/2008 10:29:00 AM | message detail |
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It should also be noted that Guybrush is a very static character. As a result, he performs much better in four way contests. Place him in the second match instead of, say Zidane, and he'd probably advance. Also Isaac, what the hell? Stop dangling comebacks in front of us and then dropping them just like that. :( Stick with them! --- The below statement is the most false thing in the world. http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/Danielyoon10/B8sigbet.jpg?t=1221767288 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 10:30:11 AM | message detail |
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Let me point you to the last few updates. 13:02 - Lucario wins by 8 13:07 - Lucario wins by 6 13:12 - Isaac wins by 19 13:17 - Isaac wins by 34 13:22 - Lucario wins by 45 13:27 - Isaac wins by 11 Does this prove LFF, or are they just this evenly matched? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/21/2008 10:32:03 AM | message detail |
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Lightning Strikes (#110) I never thought I'd see "Guybrush" and "advance" in the same post. Even if he is static (which I kinda buy for now), it's definitely not at the level of Zidane and not enough to beat even a SFFed Shadow. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 10:35:29 AM | message detail |
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No way Guybrush advances in that match. SFFd Shadow still got 15%. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/21/2008 10:36:09 AM | message detail |
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__Smurf__ (#100) What I would have picked: 1) Link 9) Niko Bellic 12) Lucario 4) Zidane 6) Shadow the Hedgehog 3) Altair 10) Kefka 2) Zack Fair 1) Link 12) Lucario 3) Altair 2) Zack Fair 1) Link 2) Zack Fair 1) Link Of course, there's a couple that I really don't know how I would've chosen before seeing this contest (Duke/Kefka, Altair/Shadow). But that's fewer upsets in three rounds and 15 matches than there's been so far in just Round 1 and 4 matches. Granted, that's probably due to the seeding. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 10:38:21 AM | message detail |
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Don't look now, but Isaac just won 3 updates in a row. When's the last time he did that? He only needs 9 votes an update to win, too. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2008 10:41:31 AM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#111) I don't think they're hurting each other that much at all. Lucario would do a couple percent better here without Isaac and vice-versa, but Altair would still crush both of them and Guybrush would still not be that far away from them. They're evenly matched with Lucario being a tad stronger is all. --- Moltar Status: augh Altair/Guybrush/Isaac/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Altair - Vote: Lucario (6/12) |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/21/2008 10:44:07 AM | message detail |
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i think there's LFF for the simple fact that Lucario and Isaac losing updates to Guybrush is unthinkable. --- *is Dranze* Altair/Guybrush/Isaac/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Altair - Vote: Lucario (6/12) |
| smitelf | Posted 9/21/2008 10:44:43 AM | message detail |
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What is the rationale behind SFF here? The fact that both are on the
DS, or that they are both in Brawl (with Isaac playing a minor role in
Brawl anyway, so far as I understand)? --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| WishFulfillment | Posted 9/21/2008 10:46:06 AM | message detail |
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Both RPGs on Nintendo's handheld? makes sense to me. people have no problem with Link/Shadow SFF... don't see how you could deny at least some sort of overlap here. --- wish fulfillment every day |
| smitelf | Posted 9/21/2008 10:47:51 AM | message detail |
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I'm not denying that there could be SFF/LFF here, I'm just wondering
what the claimed connection is. Does Pokemon actually SFF/LFF like an
RPG under normal circumstances? I've always considered it to be kind of
its own genre. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/21/2008 10:49:45 AM | message detail |
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Place [Guybrush] in the second match instead of, say Zidane, and he'd probably advance. The match could have been Shadow/Sonic/Link/Guybrush, and I would still be wary of Guybrush advancing. Putting Guybrush on Zidane's level is even riskier! --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/21/2008 10:51:44 AM | message detail |
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1) Link 8) Wario 5) Marth 4) Zidane 6) Shadow The Hedgehog 3) Altair 10) Kefka 2) Zack Fair 1) Link 5) Marth 6) Shadow The Hedgehog 10) Kefka 1) Link 10) Kefka (yeah I know trusting in Kefka is bad news but I'd HAVE to bet against Shadow if he hit anything remotely debatable.. I didn't think Zidane was, unfortunately) 1) Link So yeah... luckily I was in the camp that Marth > Lucario. Kefka (and maybe Shadow > Altair at this point) would probably cost me a lot of points (though I think he at least beats Duke 1v1 with a normal pic) but other than that, a-okay. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/21/2008 10:52:38 AM | message detail |
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Before the match, I claimed that Isaac was "Nintendo in name only."
Golden Sun just seems too far removed from the Nintendo series that
have always been entwined in SFF. However, this match is really making
me rethink this. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/21/2008 10:53:20 AM | message detail |
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The match could have been Shadow/Sonic/Link/Guybrush, and I would still be wary of Guybrush advancing. Only wary, huh? Guybrush for potential NN breaker confirmed. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| smitelf | Posted 9/21/2008 10:55:49 AM | message detail |
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Hmm...I have to say, though, I'm not sold on LFF here yet.
Percentage-wise, Isaac is just about where I'd expect him to be without
any LFF. The big surprise is Lucario being really weak, and...well,
maybe he's just really weak. We've never seen him in action before like
Shadow (and yes, I know Shadow disappointed last year, but not so much
that he ought to be losing to Zidane under normal circumstances, IMO). The main reason the LFF argument could have value here is Guybrush's overperformance. I'll have to mull it over more before I form a decided opinion on this match. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/21/2008 10:57:11 AM | message detail |
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yeah guybrush is really the thing i'm thinking about. was he ever near Isaac? is it possibly Isaac/Samus had SF-- oh wait nevermind. --- *is Dranze* Altair/Guybrush/Isaac/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Altair - Vote: Lucario (6/12) |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/21/2008 11:02:14 AM | message detail |
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...I meant to say wary of him beating Shadow. Grrrrr, Lopen! --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| Tohoya | Posted 9/21/2008 11:03:10 AM | message detail |
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4 upsets in a row! C'mon Roxas, make it a fifth! --- "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --Ezekiel 23:20 |
| Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/21/2008 11:03:36 AM | message detail |
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Guys, is there a specific update time for the match pics? >_> --- Justin's CB Points: 8 | Points After this Round: 12 Today: Altair > Lucario | Tomorrow: Luigi > Liquid |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 11:04:44 AM | message detail |
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| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/21/2008 11:06:50 AM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb7/cb7-05.jpg awesome Luigi --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/21/2008 11:07:22 AM | message detail |
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lol wrong link --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Xuxon | Posted 9/21/2008 11:09:30 AM | message detail |
| typically, pics are only uploaded when the next
day's pic isn't up yet. the amount uploaded at that time might be only
1, it might be a whole division. i think the most uploaded at once was
around 7. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/21/2008 11:26:45 AM | message detail |
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...MULTIPLE Gurus put Guybrush in 2nd here. ...Wow --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 NOMINATE KNUCKLES THE ECHIDNA! |
| Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/21/2008 11:39:59 AM | message detail |
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So, what you're saying is that odds are we won't get more pics until tomorrow? Sounds fair. But is there a specific time or something that they release the pictures at? --- Justin's CB Points: 8 | Points After this Round: 12 Today: Altair > Lucario | Tomorrow: Luigi > Liquid |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/21/2008 11:42:35 AM | message detail |
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Go Roxas! --- [Multiple Scorgasms] Score: 8/16 Today's Pick: Luigi > Liquid Snake |
| transience | Posted 9/21/2008 11:51:17 AM | message detail |
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well, as I said last night: Isaac 17.6% 21496 Pikachu 36.62% 44717 Serge 13.93% 17009 Tidus 31.84% 38881 TOTAL VOTES 122103 Dante 30.43% 39904 Amaterasu 11.93% 15644 Leon Kennedy 23.85% 31279 Pikachu 33.79% 44304 TOTAL VOTES 131131 Pikachu's percentage certainly suggests something is up there, 'cause Dante/Leon SFF or not that first pack is WAY weaker. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/21/2008 11:53:31 AM | message detail |
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Well, what do you think it suggests? I'm intrigued, but I don't know what to make of it. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| transience | Posted 9/21/2008 11:55:07 AM | message detail |
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that Pikachu was held down in some way - Isaac/Pikachu/Serge vs.
Dante/Leon/Amaterasu? I mean, come on. Isaac probably loses to
Amaterasu, Serge definitely does and Tidus couldn't beat either Dante
or Leon. 3% difference. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| transience | Posted 9/21/2008 11:55:45 AM | message detail |
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the other explanation would be a massive picture boost, which I guess
is possible. it's also overanalyzing, but if you want to rationalize
our mistake, this would be a good way to do it. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/21/2008 11:58:40 AM | message detail |
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Honestly....I think the idea that RPG characters leech off each other
to some degree, despite different series (as seen in
Pikachu/Tidus/Vivi/Leon). I mean, Pokemon and Final Fantasy are a LOT
more similar than, say, Resident Evil 4 and Devil May Cry. --- i am false |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/21/2008 12:00:10 PM | message detail |
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Pikachu's percentage certainly suggests something is up there Yeah, he got less percent with a similar number of votes in the match that had more total votes. --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 NOMINATE KNUCKLES THE ECHIDNA! |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/21/2008 12:00:32 PM | message detail |
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It's pretty easy folks. Dante's sprite pic looked stupid. So did
Leon's. Pikachu stood out like a sore thumb and Dante/Leon split. --- [Multiple Scorgasms] Score: 8/16 Today's Pick: Luigi > Liquid Snake |
| transience | Posted 9/21/2008 12:06:41 PM | message detail |
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that's true, but Pikachu and Tidus's appeal is very, uh, different. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/21/2008 12:06:52 PM | message detail |
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Honestly....I think the idea that RPG characters leech off each
other to some degree, despite different series (as seen in
Pikachu/Tidus/Vivi/Leon). I mean, Pokemon and Final Fantasy are a LOT
more similar than, say, Resident Evil 4 and Devil May Cry. I flirted with this idea, but Pikachu and Tidus/Vivi(/Serge) have such massively different voting patterns it's difficult to justify. It certainly seems like they appeal to different demographics, which makes it awkward to say that they're splitting to any notable degree. --- Mustache...and green... |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/21/2008 12:22:50 PM | message detail |
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Someone please tell me we've developed a reasonable explanation for
this, preferably something to do with Altair's outfit being an
alternate costume in MGS4, which means Snake will be beating Cloud and
Link combined. Seriously though, out of all of the possibilities that didn't involve Guybrush advancing, this is what I wouldn't have expected. And why is Altair still owning the day vote? Over Pokemon? Maybe Isaac and Lucario are splitting votes somehow. There's really no explanation for this, but the one year I buy into POKEFEAR, argh. Well, as long as this means Ike > Arthas (or even the other way around is fine), I can live with it! Stats from yesterday: Marth – 50.00% Duke Nukem – 47.19% Niko Bellic – 43.44% Kefka – 42.18% For the record, Duke gets 55.31% on Kefka and 53.97% on Niko. Niko gets 51.45% on Kefka. As far as today goes, Altair's getting 74.65% on Guybrush, 66.25% on Isaac, and 65.13% on Lucario. For the record, Pikachu got 67.54% on Isaac last year. Pretty close, actually. Lucario is getting 61.19% on Guybrush and 51.24% on Isaac. Isaac is getting 60.01% on Guybrush. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Justin_Crossing | Posted 9/21/2008 12:27:13 PM | message detail |
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>_> Yes, but Pikachu hasn't been in a match that he dominates so clearly as Altair is dominating right now. And from what I've seen, Pikachu seems to be SFFed by Final Fantasy characters. He lost by nearly 10% to Leon when Tidus and Vivi were in the match, but then he beat Leon when it was Dante and Amaterasu, which is showing a correlation between the two. And I'm also surprised by these because you would think that due to this, Zidane would have been SFFed more than he did and allowed a closer match between him and Shadow. --- Justin's CB Points: 8 | Points After this Round: 12 Today: Altair > Lucario | Tomorrow: Luigi > Liquid |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/21/2008 12:31:24 PM | message detail |
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Duke Nukem's Peak Percentage: 27.13% Duke Nukem's Lowest Percentage: 23.28% Duke Nukem's Final Percentage: 26.35% Differential: -0.78%, +3.07% Kefka's Peak Percentage: 25.17% Kefka's Lowest Percentage: 21.47% Kefka's Final Percentage: 21.51% Differential: -3.66% ,+0.04% Marth's Peak Percentage: 30.65% Marth's Lowest Percentage: 26.77% Marth's Final Percentage: 29.49% Differential: -1.16%, +2.72% Niko Bellic's Peak Percentage: 22.68% Niko Bellic's Lowest Percentage: 21.08% Niko Bellic's Final Percentage: 22.65% Differential: -0.03%, +1.57% And I'll just go ahead and say that I'll favor Zack over Altair at this point, assuming they're both there. I'll take Wario over Lucario at this point (although I don't know who wouldn't), so I think what Zack did is more impressive. Matter of opinion though. But really, forget Assist Trophy Boosts! This is all about Alternate MGS4 Costume Boosts! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/21/2008 12:32:35 PM | message detail |
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And this contest is makin' me wish I'd pulled the trigger on Luigi >
Roxas tomorrow, but maybe everything will go back to normal tomorrow
and Division 1 is the only place where everything's wonky. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/21/2008 12:39:03 PM | message detail |
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You know, for the hell a lot of us gave SB for supposedly making a
terrible bracket, there have been four big surprises already in just
four matches...and one of the matches had Link. This division's unique
in that there's a LOT of fodder and we can't count on the rest of the
contest pulling the wool over our eyes in every match...but SB has
certainly done a good job with this division, if nothing else. We had a
lot of debate all over this division beforehand, and now that the first
round's over we're re-debating the second round which hardly looks like
what we first projected it. Well done so far, SB. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
