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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 571

MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/20/2008 11:15:47 PM | message detail
This may be the first Contest Stats and Discussion Gopic ever.

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 11:16:18 PM | message detail
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/20/2008 11:17:29 PM | message detail
sage

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/21/2008 1:40:38 AM | message detail
Guybrush
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/21/2008 1:41:11 AM | message detail
A gopic cs&d, eh?
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/21/2008 1:41:33 AM | message detail
Gentlemen.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/21/2008 1:42:00 AM | message detail
Looks like Lucario's cutting Isaac now.
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ZFS | Posted 9/21/2008 1:42:52 AM | message detail
come on lucario gotta get me full points today

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kaptainkirby | Posted 9/21/2008 1:43:17 AM | message detail
guybrush ftmfw
transience | Posted 9/21/2008 1:43:41 AM | message detail
this is the worst close match I've ever seen. it's up there with Thrall/Vergil.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/21/2008 1:44:43 AM | message detail
So with Lucario not being so great... and Wario not being so great...


how horrible will Lucas be since he's a guy who is going to get almost literally 100% of his votes from Brawl? Marth did well, but he has Melee on his side too and stuff...
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vcharon | Posted 9/21/2008 1:44:49 AM | message detail
First exciting battle on the horizon perhaps... but I can see Lucario pulling away when the kiddies wake up. I have Altair > Lucario, but I sort of want Isaac to win anyway. Marth already totally screwed my bracket up anyhow.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/21/2008 1:45:54 AM | message detail
Dunno why people say Wario was terrible.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/21/2008 1:46:29 AM | message detail
I said not so great, not terrible.

And he wasn't so great.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/21/2008 1:47:51 AM | message detail
He did about as much as I thought he was going to do :/

Knew Zack was going to be pretty buff, didnt think he'd Soulrape the crap out of Cecil like that though.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/21/2008 1:48:24 AM | message detail
Cecil's soulraping was sad.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/21/2008 1:49:35 AM | message detail
I must say, this isn't looking good for Ike. The Smash characters that have all bombed are Brawl exclusives. Marth, on the other hand, looked impressive yesterday. However, it's still a bit early to say anything for sure.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/21/2008 1:50:25 AM | message detail
Indeed MK :(
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/21/2008 1:51:17 AM | message detail
Well, we've at least got some read on Ike from last year... and he was okish.... so he should be okish + 1 or something

But I never expect Ike to progress. That's Pikachu > Arthas.
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transience | Posted 9/21/2008 1:51:53 AM | message detail
looks like a comeback, if you can even call it that.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/21/2008 1:58:22 AM | message detail

Shoenin_Kakashi (#018)
Indeed MK :(



Well, Meta did beat Peach last year, so maybe he's hiding some decent strength from being in two Nintendo SFF fests anyway.
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voltch | Posted 9/21/2008 2:03:10 AM | message detail
Altair is dominating....we suck at predicting.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/21/2008 2:32:48 AM | message detail
Wrong MK <_<

I was refering to the strapping young fellow that made the topic.

Not Dark Kirby <_<
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greatone10 | Posted 9/21/2008 2:40:01 AM | message detail
Oh...

Although it did make sense in context.
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voltch | Posted 9/21/2008 2:41:17 AM | message detail
damnit,i have niko/lucario progressing through the next round and it looks like both wo't even be there.
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kaptainkirby | Posted 9/21/2008 2:42:25 AM | message detail
At the current rate Guybrush will be like 30-50 updates off coming 2nd/3rd...
EpicBigKevinm84 | Posted 9/21/2008 2:52:18 AM | message detail
Omglol Isaac passed Lucario.

This is my first post in probably around 100 stat/discussion topics. Lol
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Djungelurban | Posted 9/21/2008 2:55:48 AM | message detail
That would be the highlight of the day, Guybrush reaching round 2. It would be awesome and totally deserving. Don't care that it would even further hurt my bracket, seeing Altair's performance today makes me believe that he very well could pull through to the final 16 even without the help of Kefka, so this 1 point isn't gonna make my bracket rise or fall.
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kaptainkirby | Posted 9/21/2008 3:03:46 AM | message detail
Guybrush still slowly gaining... those early updates hurt him. =(
voltch | Posted 9/21/2008 3:05:15 AM | message detail
Altair vs Wario vs Zack vs Zidane
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/21/2008 3:08:45 AM | message detail
Dissapointing Issac isn't putting Lucario away here.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/21/2008 3:10:49 AM | message detail
I know.

Well, let's hope it stays this close even during the day.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/21/2008 3:15:50 AM | message detail
To use Isaac v Pikachu last year as a guideline, Isaac lost about 0.10% between now and the end of the poll which is very marginal, Pikachu gained 1%.
That might look ominous for Isaac and predict a 0.5% win for Lucario but lets remember that Lucario is nowhere near the mainstream draw that Pikachu is, can a character like him even cause a stir during the day vote?

Regardless I think this one could be very close, I'd be surprised if either won by more than 500 votes.

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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/21/2008 3:35:25 AM | message detail
It's our fault for giving into BRAWLFEAR.
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jonthomson | Posted 9/21/2008 4:19:40 AM | message detail
wow altair. always thought a mewtwo clone would be somewhat overrated, but this? jesus
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/21/2008 4:28:22 AM | message detail
Yeah Lucario's gonna take this during the day pretty easily I think. I don't think he'll be quite what Marth was, but he should have enough in him to beat friggin' Isaac.

That said, Altair is going to own faces during the day. He reeks of X-Box day vote beastliness, and this has me worried, not just for my next pick, but because for Zack too =(

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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/21/2008 4:31:47 AM | message detail
I actually think Altair is going to get his ass handed to him next round, today is all Lucario's suck and not about Altair's ownage.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/21/2008 4:36:17 AM | message detail
Altair is just going to stabilize or even going down a bit during the day imho just like most if not all MGS family. All the day votes are going to Lucario... and maybe also Isaac tbqh, creating the most uninteresting close match! Guybrush should go down as well once the sun is up.
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Lopen | Posted 9/21/2008 4:47:23 AM | message detail
Okay, Guybrush doing this well really suggests that this is more Lucario being a joke than Altair being beastly. That being said, I still like Altair to walk out of this division.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/21/2008 4:49:03 AM | message detail
Isaac's not building any sort of significant lead here. He's going to need to take the day vote from a cult pokemon character for him to win this. Possible, but I doubt it.

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/21/2008 4:50:48 AM | message detail
Isaac is very consistent throughout the day.
Lucario, we don't really know about. He's nowhere near as popular with the kiddies and the pokémon fanbase as Pikachu, but BRAWLFEAR... Then again, didn't help Wario.
Altair should boost a little with the day vote.

Not much I can say here. Aside from GO ISAAC GO!!!
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kaptainkirby | Posted 9/21/2008 4:50:51 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3247&type=2&seconds=5000&max=0

Someone explain why Guybrush is on equal ground now each update but was so low earlier?
NClark128 | Posted 9/21/2008 5:20:05 AM | message detail
Well, after a long stalemate, Lucario seems to finally be closing the gap.

Looks like he'll advance after all... but he's still a major disappointment.
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/21/2008 5:22:04 AM | message detail
I'm glad I didn't really get serious with my bracket this year, as it seems to be more fun when I'm not caring too much. This whole division has been great so far. Altair>Isaac>Lucario is like a dream upset for me.

Because I ******* HATE Lucario.
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ZFS | Posted 9/21/2008 5:23:46 AM | message detail
Ha. These guys are still losin' updates to Guybrush. Kinda says it all right there.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2008 5:27:35 AM | message detail
Is Guybrush getting the day vote over Nintendo
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/21/2008 5:33:31 AM | message detail
And Lucario's back in 2nd
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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/21/2008 5:34:09 AM | message detail
I think people are mistaking Guybrush for a joke character.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/21/2008 5:35:16 AM | message detail
NClark128 (#043)
Well, after a long stalemate, Lucario seems to finally be closing the gap.

Looks like he'll advance after all... but he's still a major disappointment.


Not Lucario's fault that we overrated him. There was absolutely no indication that he would do THAT well.
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ZFS | Posted 9/21/2008 5:36:16 AM | message detail
i mean seriously guybrush is still winning updates

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