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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 570

smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:24:45 PM | message detail

_Hogger_ (#090)
I remember people were telling me that Altair was Prince of Persia 2.0, and I said I felt Altair would be around Kratos strength. Just something of note.



I'd say he's somewhere in between at this point.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:24:51 PM | message detail
He slowly decreased in last year's match, but considering Pikachu was there and SFFing him somewhat he got off pretty well.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 9:24:51 PM | message detail
honestly it doesnt matter what he was arguing for. i know what i talked about and it was mainly Altair flopping.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 9:24:51 PM | message detail
Eh, Niko didnt really Upset, he acctually surprised IMO.
Or was that just Kefka sucking it up?

Who knows.
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 9:25:08 PM | message detail
How about that Brawl boost

(Come on Cloud this is the year)

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satai_delenn | Posted 9/20/2008 9:25:36 PM | message detail
So I wonder what this all means for Pikachu and Ike.

I think I'm going to hold off making any judgments about Brawl and its characters until I see what Ike and Meta Knight do. Those are the two characters I would have expected to get the most boost out of Brawl. Though uh...Lucario, what is wrong with you. v_v
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smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:25:38 PM | message detail

M80TheWolf (#100)
Definitely wasn't me. I don't think I've made a post since the bracket was released where I have even mentioned the name "Guybrush."



Whose alt are you then? You people love confusing me with your crazy alts.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 9:25:53 PM | message detail
This makes L-Block look very good to get out of Round 1, and whenever L-Block has gotten out of Round 1 in the past, he has gone on to win the contest.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 9:26:11 PM | message detail
actually with Lucario doing this bad i'm glad i took L-block the last minute.
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Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8)
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 9/20/2008 9:26:22 PM | message detail
I think most of us would have done better in this division by random picks <_<

I used the random.org random number generator to generate an integer between 1 and 4 inclusive. If it chose the same character for 2nd place as first, I skipped to the next number.

4 - Zack - 2 points
3 - Wario - 2 points

3 - Shadow - 0 points
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3
4 - Zidane - 2 points

3 - Marth - 2 points
1 - Duke - 2 points

3 - Issac - 0 points (1 if Altair > Isaac)
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1 - Altair - 1 point (2 if Lucario > Altair)

That's 11 or 12 points. How many people here can beat that? <_<
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/20/2008 9:26:42 PM | message detail
Cloud > Snake in the final woo
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Tohoya | Posted 9/20/2008 9:26:49 PM | message detail
Man, knowing my luck, the one upset I've actually got in my bracket up to this point (Luigi > Roxas) isn't going to come true >.<
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 9:27:00 PM | message detail
no guys this is just lucario and isaac splitting the brawl vote because both were in it

(god this is bad)
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Altair/Guybrush/Isaac/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Altair - Vote: Lucario (6/12)
M80TheWolf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:27:10 PM | message detail
Its EC... wouldn't really call it an alt. I have 3 5 Karma accounts.

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 9:27:21 PM | message detail
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transience | Posted 9/20/2008 9:27:33 PM | message detail
okay, did some research. looks like Isaac's best time is the early vote, then he's bad with the night vote, then he's pretty good with the day vote. I expect Lucario to be a day vote stud because Pokemon always is.
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satai_delenn | Posted 9/20/2008 9:28:03 PM | message detail
Mario > Fei

How hard would this rock. Come on, 2k8, you can do it!
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smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:28:04 PM | message detail
That's 11 or 12 points. How many people here can beat that? <_<

I'll end up with about the same <_<
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TheRye | Posted 9/20/2008 9:28:34 PM | message detail
Less than 50% of brackets had Marth advancing PERIOD. Wow...
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Applekidjosh | Posted 9/20/2008 9:29:16 PM | message detail
the idea of Altair being impressive while Niko bombs blows my mind. And my bracket.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:29:29 PM | message detail
okay, did some research. looks like Isaac's best time is the early vote, then he's bad with the night vote, then he's pretty good with the day vote. I expect Lucario to be a day vote stud because Pokemon always is.

That match how Pikachu and two other RPG characters in it.

Does anyone have any updates from his Samus match in 2k3? >_>

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 9:29:30 PM | message detail
I have a crackpot theory:

Nintendo Contest Power went down after brawl.

When Brawl was being hyped, Nintendo praise was at an all time high.
Then people PLAYED Brawl, realised it sucked, and turned agianst Nintendo.

I'd say kinda athing goes for Snake and MGS4.....


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transience | Posted 9/20/2008 9:30:23 PM | message detail
his trends should be the same. Shadow was supposedly SFFed but still was way better come daytime.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 9:30:45 PM | message detail
Let's seriously discuss this though.

Let's say that this is all a result of massive public backlash to Nintendo's idiodicy this year, how does that affect the rest of the contest? Will we see Liquid go with Luigi or Bowser to the divisional finals? Is X spared from an SFF beatdown?
hochimnih157 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:31:01 PM | message detail
I have Altair winning this match, the next match and then beating Zack in Round 3 for second to Link. I bet you're all jealous of my bracket, huh?
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Starion | Posted 9/20/2008 9:31:23 PM | message detail
Heh, watch as Nana advancing destroys that theory of yours Shoenin Kakashi.
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:31:40 PM | message detail
I'm not seeing Nintendo decreasing after what Marth did yesterday.

This is just

A. Brawl not helping characters that don't matter
B. Lucario being a less popular Pokemon than we thought

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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 9:31:40 PM | message detail
then beating Zack in Round 3 for second to Link. I bet you're all jealous of my bracket, huh?

Sounds like trouble!

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smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:31:58 PM | message detail
Trying to extrapolate a Nintendo decline from these insane matches is stretching it. Let's at least see the (more normal...I think) 2nd division first.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 9:32:22 PM | message detail
All this just makes Alucard > Kratos look much better.

Tales gonna get to round 2 this contest!
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 9:32:23 PM | message detail
I am. I think you have it right, Hochi. Let's go Altair country!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 9:32:32 PM | message detail
Nintendo Contest Power went down after brawl.

When Brawl was being hyped, Nintendo praise was at an all time high.
Then people PLAYED Brawl, realised it sucked, and turned agianst Nintendo.

I'd say kinda athing goes for Snake and MGS4.....


The first part of your theory sounds pretty good, but I don't agree with the latter. Didn't people love MGS4? Sure, it didn't have a GameRankings average of 106% like Bribed Theft Auto, but I got the feeling that the fanbase reacted overwhelmingly positively. Heck, it seemed to make a few new MGS fans here on Board 8.
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M80TheWolf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:33:04 PM | message detail
Hype's always more powerful than the actual release, IMO. Games almost never live up to the expectations put on it, especially if it's a huge name title. It's why I really don't think Sunshine being released on the day of the match mattered for Mario > Cloud in 2K2. It could have happened a week earlier, and I think the same result would have happened.

Look at the wave MC rode last contest, there's no way Halo 3 lived up to that massive hype train, and neither did Brawl. Obviously MC still benefits massively from the format, and I'm still banking on him to go relatively far this year, but I don't think he'll be as strong as last years incarnation. If Snake didn't have MGS4, I'd make the argument that he'd suffer the same backlash as well.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 9:33:09 PM | message detail
I'm definitely glad I switched from Ryu > MK to Ryu > L though. And went against my gut that was telling me to take Falco over Scorpion.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 9:35:00 PM | message detail
I think it has to do with Nintendo basically abandoning their fans for soccer moms and old people, but that's just my 2 cents.
Applekidjosh | Posted 9/20/2008 9:35:21 PM | message detail
man I wish I was as awesome as Hochi
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:35:43 PM | message detail
Isaac needs to stop stalling and start cutting.

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 9:36:06 PM | message detail
Wii Fit Factor

WFF (There's a new acronym for ya!)
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M80TheWolf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:36:12 PM | message detail
Ryu > Meta didn't make sense to me from day 1... and still doesn't. I'm not saying it can't happen, but it just has always struck me as pretty damn unfounded. I had L-Block winning the contest up until about 5 days before lockdown, when I switched to Crono > Ryu to knock him out... and I'm uneasy as hell about that. I basically went with what I'm hoping to happen to break my indecision. Ryu > Meta just seems silly as hell to me though. Who knows...

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Just Some Person | Posted 9/20/2008 9:36:33 PM | message detail
Lucario trying to pull away, but Isaac is like an anchor.

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 9:37:59 PM | message detail
In honor of Duke's Slight Victory, This is now a Critic Quote Thread.



Rosebud...
Yes, Rosebud frozen peas. Full of country goodness and green peaness.







Wait, that's terrible. I quit.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 9:38:00 PM | message detail
I think we need some extrapolation based on Guybrush. Where does Altair stand?
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 9:38:12 PM | message detail
If Nintendo knew how this new casual-centric attitude of theirs would affect their GameFAQs Character Battle performances, do you guys think they would have still released games like Wii Sports, Wii Play, and Wii Fit?

Man, the more I try to analyze this, the more questions I have!
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 9:38:52 PM | message detail
Well...let's say Lucario advances. Do you still take him over Marth next round? Wil either Nintendo character advance next round?
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:39:16 PM | message detail
Both Lucario and Isaac fell off heavily last update, with Guybrush gaining.
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Yesmar | Posted 9/20/2008 9:39:54 PM | message detail
As someone who has Ryu > L, this doesn't really change my opinion. I had it because I thought that The Dog would leech votes almost entirely from L-Block, and if Meta Knight hasn't changed at all, everything still works out fine for him advancing in that scenario.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 9:40:14 PM | message detail
Well...let's say Lucario advances. Do you still take him over Marth next round? Wil either Nintendo character advance next round?

No, I think Marth would finish ahead. Whether that means Marth would end up in second or third, I'm not sure. Altair seems like the type that would hurt Duke's casual support, but Marth would have some classic Nintendo SFF to deal with.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:40:23 PM | message detail
Well...let's say Lucario advances.

Has this sentence ever been said?


Do you still take him over Marth next round?

No.


Wil either Nintendo character advance next round?

Look at Altair. No.

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 9:40:26 PM | message detail
Just reach in there an pull him out! That's how I met 'the Fonz'!
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 9:40:54 PM | message detail
There's another cut!

Go Isaac!
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