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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 570

UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/20/2008 9:06:28 PM | message detail
LucariOWNED

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:06:47 PM | message detail
This contest is awesome.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 9/20/2008 9:06:53 PM | message detail
So, Pikachu/Ike/Arthas/Spy.

Who is the favorite now?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:07:25 PM | message detail
FEEL THE ALTAIR!

Of all the days not to have AIM access...I wanna rub this in the face of Dealer so badly.


...and for some reason, I'm starting to feel better about having Marth getting 2nd next round <_<
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Sir Basch | Posted 9/20/2008 9:07:31 PM | message detail
spy

its ****ing spy.

my bracket is burning and I am laughing insanely, jesus christ
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:07:40 PM | message detail
Altair>Isaac

BOOK IT

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
Malakuko | Posted 9/20/2008 9:07:45 PM | message detail
this contest is so awesome
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Big Bob | Posted 9/20/2008 9:08:02 PM | message detail
Lucario's taking a ton of damage here.

Comeback confirmed
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:08:44 PM | message detail
Pikachu still, my logic for Marth (and Altair) beating Lucario is that Lucario has minimal pull with the older audience who may have played Pokemon. The guy may as well be a pure Brawl character <_<
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 9:08:48 PM | message detail
Screw ZackFAQs this is Altair country!
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/20/2008 9:08:51 PM | message detail
Ike > Arthas looks good now tbqh
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Link The Hylian | Posted 9/20/2008 9:08:51 PM | message detail
Man I'm so glad I didn't bother making a bracket for this contest.

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charmander6000 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:08:55 PM | message detail
And I had Lucario leaving this division with Link.

>_<
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Character Battle 2008: Points 6/12 Today's Match: Lucario > Altair
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 9:08:59 PM | message detail
So much for people LOVING brawl.
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:09:10 PM | message detail
Gogo Altair > Isaac!
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 9:09:15 PM | message detail
Link / Zack / Altair / Duke

Who's goin' to round 4?
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M80TheWolf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:09:23 PM | message detail
This is so ridiculous. I'm going to have less than half the possible points after the first division... and I don't even feel bad about it.

At least I have Altair in 1st next round too! Too bad Kefka's in second.

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jrdebo | Posted 9/20/2008 9:09:24 PM | message detail
I really want Spy to win but I doubt he will :(

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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 9/20/2008 9:09:34 PM | message detail
ZackFAQs >>>>>>> Altair Country by leagues!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:05 PM | message detail
So much for people LOVING brawl.

More like so much for Pokemon Factor.

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:11 PM | message detail
Melee > Brawl easily

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Awaiting Final Fantasy XIII
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:13 PM | message detail
I've lost all fear of L-Block failing in Round 1 now. REST OF THE FIELD, BEWARE.
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:25 PM | message detail
ZackFAQs -- now and forever

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Keno316 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:30 PM | message detail
People complained about this contest, but the unpredictability so far has been some of the most interesting stuff I've seen in one in a long time.
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smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:34 PM | message detail
Link / Zack / Altair / Duke

According to my bracket, Shadow.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:38 PM | message detail
Oh god Altair > Isaac might just happen.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:38 PM | message detail
I really want Spy to win but I doubt he will :(

*CONTEST SPOILERS*































Link, Cloud, Mario, and Snake are All secretly Spy disguised.






/END SPOILERS
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transience | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:38 PM | message detail
okay, with Lucario having a truckload of brackets behind him, I think Isaac has a real chance here.
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satai_delenn | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:38 PM | message detail
Screw ZackFAQs this is Altair country!

Zack would rule Altair country with a fair and just hand.

...god that pun wasn't even intentional, augh.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:39 PM | message detail
Aww yeah, Isaac's stalling Lucario!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:10:50 PM | message detail
So uh isn't this supposed to be Lucario's A-time?

GO ISAAC

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
charmander6000 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:11:04 PM | message detail
Well it looks like the match is between Lucario and Isaac
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Character Battle 2008: Points 6/12 Today's Match: Lucario > Altair
ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 9/20/2008 9:11:06 PM | message detail
L-Block to repeat the throne??? Not with ZackFAQs

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Awaiting Final Fantasy XIII
UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/20/2008 9:11:12 PM | message detail
Keno316 | Posted 9/21/2008 12:10:30 AM (#024)

People complained about this contest, but the unpredictability so far has been some of the most interesting stuff I've seen in one in a long time.



Fourways are still ass. These upsets would be much more awesome 1v1
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 9:11:32 PM | message detail
One thing tranny is probably right about is that this is a case of Lucario being really overrated. Isaac should overtake him during the night, and Isaac doesn't overtake respectable competitors, dammit.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 9:11:51 PM | message detail
Altair > Isaac?!?!!?!

seriously there are no words
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Altair/Guybrush/Isaac/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Altair - Vote: Lucario (6/12)
Keno316 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:12:07 PM | message detail
Fourways are still ass. These upsets would be much more awesome 1v1


Most likely true. But at the same time a lot of them probably wouldn't happen 1 on 1.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 9:12:50 PM | message detail
Zidane doing a headbutt on Shadow,
Duke Parking a brick on everyone's bracket,
Now Lucario too busy Yiffing himself.


This contest rocks.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:12:52 PM | message detail
Assist Trophy boost aw yeah.

Y'know, Isaac had a fairly solid day vote in his match last year. It wasn't as good as the rat's but it got the job done. If Lucario's lead was built on bracket votes, this could end poorly for him.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/20/2008 9:13:11 PM | message detail
of course the match I was the most sure of is the one I get the most wrong.

ROFL

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smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:13:13 PM | message detail
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:13:30 PM | message detail
Yeah, Isaac has never had a bad day vote. It won't be better than Pokemon, but...watch out, Lucario.

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M80TheWolf | Posted 9/20/2008 9:13:37 PM | message detail
People complained about this contest, but the unpredictability so far has been some of the most interesting stuff I've seen in one in a long time.

I'd much rather have interesting stuff and awesome bracket set-ups in a 1v1 style. Granted we probably wouldn't be seeing upsets going down like crazy like this, but I'd still prefer it. Once you get 128 characters into the mix, it's kinda hard to predict who's better than who among fodder and random new entrants.

A good 1v1 bracket would be better than this still. For having to deal with 4-ways though, I guess this is good.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 9:13:42 PM | message detail
If it's Isaac, I'm thinking Altair > Marth is the most likely scenario for the next round. Altair seems like the type of guy who would ravage Duke's casual support.
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 9:13:43 PM | message detail
I am lovin this. I voted Altair just because he looks cool and because people scream Assassin!! at him clearly that's where the votes are coming from.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/20/2008 9:13:45 PM | message detail
nobody expects jinjo at the top of the leaderboard!
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:13:47 PM | message detail
All the 0 brackets seem to have died in three matches.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 6/12 Today's Match: Lucario > Altair
ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 9:13:50 PM | message detail
time for isaac to get outta here

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:14:04 PM | message detail

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Keno316 | Posted 9/21/2008 12:10:30 AM (#024)

People complained about this contest, but the unpredictability so far has been some of the most interesting stuff I've seen in one in a long time.



Fourways are still ass. These upsets would be much more awesome 1v1


These upsets wouldn't exist 1v1, and we'd have yet more stale lifeless matches.

I love 1v1s as much as the next guy, but fourways have proven to be interesting and hell and are the closest we'll ever get to 2002-levels of unpredictability and excitement.
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satai_delenn | Posted 9/20/2008 9:14:14 PM | message detail
We should all just...stop ever saying anything is a lock. Or even close to a lock. Ever again.
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