GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 569
| XxSoulxX | Posted 9/20/2008 6:08:24 PM | message detail |
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Gordon getting Orange Box would be a huge boost. Like, bigger then
anyone else's boost when they get a new game. Gordon was a PC character
and his entire fanbase was from the PC. With the Orange Box, he not
only expanded his PC fanbase, but added a fanbase from the PS3 and the
Xbox 360. And since it was such a well received game, both by critics
and by fans alike, his fanbase should have grown even further then that
year. It will probably be comparable to Snake this year with MGS4 and SSBB. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 6:09:18 PM | message detail |
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I think people expecting the bulk of the cube's strength to come from "hehe, it's an inanimate object! *votes*" are mistaken. *burns bracket* --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 6:26:47 PM | message detail |
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Gordon's not in Portal and the Orange Box is barely bigger than
Bioshock according to the GotY polls...which is still good, but to
compare what that is doing for Gordon to what MGS4 and SSBB do for
Solid sounds ludicrous. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 6:27:49 PM | message detail |
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Haha...plus, Soul, I like ya and all...but I remember you taking Alyx over Lara too! --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 6:29:57 PM | message detail |
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As for Duke, why don't we just say he's similar to Pac Man. He'll do
good against low midcarders but suffers greatly against icons. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 9/20/2008 6:30:25 PM | message detail |
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hey guys. ff1 is better then ff7 without nostalgia lol thats as dumb sounding as saying HL1 is better then HL2 without nostalgia |
| smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 6:32:23 PM | message detail |
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hey guys. ff1 is better then ff7 without nostalgia lol thats as dumb sounding as saying HL1 is better then HL2 without nostalgia The Black Mage does have more personality than Cloud, though. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 9/20/2008 6:32:34 PM | message detail |
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Haha...plus, Soul, I like ya and all...but I remember you taking Alyx over Lara too! Looking back at that... it was a really stupid pick. It's too bad I didn't save the Analysis Crew writeup for that match. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 6:38:33 PM | message detail |
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Guest’s Analysis - XxSoulxX The match that everyone has been waiting for. I hope everyone is prepared for the biggest upset of the contest. Bigger then Knux > Magus! Bigger then Hand > Thong-boy! Bigger then Mario > Cloud > Link! Since 2002 and 2003 don't matter anymore (increase in votals and a new shift in voting preference), let's skip all the way to 2004. This year is significant because this was Lara's last year in the contest. She managed to grab a 15 seed, and ran straight into Samus in the first round. Before I get into that match, look at her seed in that contest compared to her other ones. In 2002, she was given a 1 seed because of her "iconic" status. She got her ass kicked. She let Chop Chop Master Onion (You can search for this guy all you want, you still won't know who he is) get over 30% on her! She followed up with allowing Ryo Hazuki to get over 40% on her, then by getting less then 30% against Crono. Ok, she finished not to bad, but she still stunk it up for two rounds. This tells me that she does not deserve any sort of high seed in these contests. 2003 came along, and the site was focused on Square and everything related to that company. Lara only received enough nominations to get a 7 seed. In 2004, she got a 15 seed. She was snubbed in 2005. See a pattern here? Her "fan base" basically fell off the face of this earth. So, how exactly did she get a 2 seed in this contest? Blame it on the crappy nomination system. I bet that many people were scratching their heads, trying to come up with the 7 female characters. Any would do. Hell, I nominated a freaking porn star that appears in one picture on one of the most obscure games ever! Of course, most people would nominate who they remember. Therefore, Lara would get a lot of nominations that way. Yes, she's higher then Alyx Vance, but like someone on Board 8 said: "Who the **** is Alyx Vance and how did she end up in this contest?!". She got in on strength alone, baby! I'll tell you that people didn't have to think long before nominating her. The point I'm trying to make is that the seeding means nothing. Lara is as weak as Crash Bandicoot. She deserves a very low seed to match her strength. One needs to look no further then her 2004 match against Samus to prove how weak Lara really is. 17.61%. Lara Croft only got 17.61% against Samus. She couldn't even break 20%! And you can't deny that's her real strength, because Samus lost to Cloud, who lost to Link. There was nothing fishy in those stats. We all know Lara is weak as ****. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been here very long. Many people predict that even though Lara is weak as hell, it would be enough to beat Alyx Vance. They believe that Alyx is as weak as Tanner. Well, this is to be expected. It's Board 8! When someone asks for 5 PC games, most would have to search the site for names. They basically have no clue who Alyx is. Frankly, I don't feel the need to educate you on her personality or anything like that. All that you have to know is that she isn't hated, and there's no reason to dislike her. She's the semi-star of Half-Life 2 (with Gordon Freeman) and the main character in Half-Life 2: Episode 1. Sure, she's not playable, but she's recognizable to everyone who has played HL2. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 6:38:48 PM | message detail |
| How weak is Alyx? Weak. I'll be the first to admit
it. She's probably fodder. But, she'll be strong enough to beat Lara
Croft. Sure, Lara has Legend that was somewhat popular. If people are
expecting her to boost to her 2003 levels, they're in for a huge
surprise. She was falling in 2004, and she continued to fall throughout
2005, I believe. Her new game stopped her from falling, and probably
boosted her up to around her 2004 level again. But really, as good as
Legend was, people have forgotten completely about it. Ask anyone
that's not named XIII is cool, and you'll see. Hardly anyone has played
it here. I don't believe that there has been 1 topic talking about that
game before this contest. It was that unknown! The board right now is
pretty much dead. Came and went in a blink of an eye!
I'm being pretty generous with boosting her up to her 2004 level. I
could see her being even weaker. Also, it doesn't help that her picture
is of her before Legend. Alyx will be stronger. Why? Because Gordon Freeman is a hell of a lot stronger then her (67% before Episode 1). I'm predicting Gordon gets around 70% on Lara Croft. Alyx is like the Luigi to Gordon Freeman. She's his partner that kicks ass! The difference between Mario and Luigi is the same difference between Gordon and Alyx. Difference is though that Alyx appears on Gordon's most popular game, while Luigi doesn't in Mario's most popular game. I could see her falling between that 70%. In fact, I don't see how she couldn't fall within that 70%. She's definitely weaker then Gordon, but she can't be that much weaker. To compare, this would be like Link and random green haired elf in Kokiri forest. There is no way a main character will be that much weaker then Gordon Freeman. Of course, can't forget the Lara Croft anti-votes! And really, that's the way I see it. I've been ridiculed for the past few days, but in a few hours, I believe I'll have my revenge on all of you doubters! And if I'm wrong, then so be it. My prediction: Alyx Vance wins with 50.01%. I need 6 more words for 1000! lolz |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 9/20/2008 6:42:22 PM | message detail |
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<3 Moltar! Oh god that was horrible. What the hell was I thinking? Hell, I nominated a freaking porn star that appears in one picture on one of the most obscure games ever! SOPHIE! Hahaha! I almost nominated her again this year. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 6:49:38 PM | message detail |
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I'd say "lol delusional HL fanboy in action" but I've made some pretty
grasping write-ups of my own over the years (Sheena > Jill, DMC >
Sonic, etc etc) so I'll just laugh and say good show. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| FFDragon | Posted 9/20/2008 6:52:06 PM | message detail |
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Dude, I nominated Sophie too. >_> --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com//wesker.gif |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/20/2008 6:52:21 PM | message detail |
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With the Orange Box, he not only expanded his PC fanbase, but added a fanbase from the PS3 and the Xbox 360 Weren't Half Life/Half Life 2 already released on the PS2 and/or Xbox? --- "The builders never understand how their creations truly feel."--Shadow the Hedgehog |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/20/2008 6:53:36 PM | message detail |
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The true sign of a hilariously bad pick is if the guy who made the pick laughs at it. --- ...I'm still War13104! "and seriously, white flags, god damnit. v.v" - ExThaNemesis, 11:44 PM EST, 1/28/07 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/20/2008 7:46:24 PM | message detail |
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Match IV: Altair vs. Guybrush Threepwood vs. Isaac vs. Lucario Information Name: Altair Game/Series From: Assassin’s Creed 2007 Results: Did not enter Our guru pick not only made it into the contest, but is put into a very favourable position. I don’t know much about the guy though unlike some of our other nominated characters I see him having some kind of strength, though I’ve been very wrong in this division, already losing two characters that were suppose to make it to round 3. Name: Guybrush Threepwood Game/Series From: Monkey Island series 2007 Results: 4th in round 1 Why is he still here? All he did last year was gain a few percent points while Duke/Freeman/Ike battled it out. With many characters missing the cut, Guybrush’s small, but dedicated fanbase was able to bring him into the contest for another beating. Name: Isaac Game/Series From: Golden Sun 2007 Results: 3rd in round 1 Golden Sun hasn’t been relevant in years, but that didn’t stop him from putting respectable numbers on Serge, though it may have been from Serge’s weakness than anything. Isaac is an assist trophy in Brawl though any support coming from that way may be spoiled from the Brawl character in this match. Name: Lucario Game/Series From: Pokemon series 2007 Results: Did not enter Pokemon number 448 though with the movie release he’s become the poster boy of the fourth generation. With his popularity in the Pokemon fanbase he’s been put in Brawl ahead of Mewtwo. Pokemon did really well in this format last year, can they repeat their success? Analysis: With me dropping the ball three times in the first three matches I’m becoming more cautious in my picks. Hopefully it’s just this division of death. Anyways to finish this division we could have our first match that the majority of users picked right or we’re in for another crazy upset. One thing for certain is that Guybrush is getting last in this match. When your contest history has Ryo Hazuki getting over 70% on you, even if it was in 2002 you know something is wrong. Getting only 12% in a weak-ish match is terrible and while the other characters aren’t really pillars of strength they have what it takes to defeat Guybrush, which isn’t a whole lot. With Pokemon’s performance last year and the release of Brawl Lucario is the favourite to take first. While the Brawl boost is being questioned a bit pre-maturely never being in a Smash game before helps and if worst comes to worst he still has his Pokemon fanbase to fall upon. The worst Lucario could do here is take second. Last year Isaac was in the same match as Pikachu and while Lucario may or may not be as strong as Pikachu he did win by enough to give Lucario a lot of breathing room to work with. Guybrush is a joke so the only character that has a chance at upsetting Lucario is fellow newcomer Altair. I’m not too familiar with Altair and the only reason I nominated him was because I had to, but I did recognized his game. From the research I’ve done the game was released on both the Xbox360 and PS3, the game sold decently and Altair is a more of a love/hate type of character. Looking at that I conclude that he would’ve done pretty well if he was in the last match though I think he would ultimately do worse than Niko so while he does have a chance to upset Lucario if he bombs there is a chance where Isaac could upset him. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/20/2008 7:46:41 PM | message detail |
| Isaac is not a strong character and the only way
he’ll be coming out of this match alive will be because of Altair’s
weakness. Though I must say being a supporter of Serge last year he did
catch me off guard beating the guy. The only new thing going for Isaac
is that people may recognize him as an assist trophy in Brawl though
with Lucario in the poll that will turn into little to no votes going
his way. So in conclusion Lucario > Isaac > Guybrush is more or less a lock and the only problem is the placing of Altair. The safe bet would be between Lucario and Isaac though if anything this contest is to go against the safe bet. Personally I think there’s a better chance at Altair failing than living and surpassing to his hype, many characters tend to rely on their franchise to do well in these contests and while there have been exceptions, such as Marcus Fenix from last year I don’t think Altair has the right formula of pulling off the needed votes for the upset. charmander6000’s Bracket: Lucario > Altair charmander6000’s Prediction: Lucario – 39.27%, Altair – 30.62%, Isaac – 19.52%, Guybrush – 10.59% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 4/8 Today's Match: Marth > Niko |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 7:49:02 PM | message detail |
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Just came back from work. Aww Well.GJ Duke, you showed all who's boss at least. Though you still kinda uderpreformed for me <_< I can still tell people are STILL going to overate Kefka and GTA(though Niko still isnt as weak as it seems), And are still going to underate Warcraft. --- Warning, there is a bear right behind you. Ride Him. |
| RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/20/2008 7:51:42 PM | message detail |
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Dante > Hogger for the upset! --- A surveillance camera!? http://img.imgcake.com//lastcalvin&hobbes.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 7:51:48 PM | message detail |
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More like I'm going to stop underrating THE DUKE, actually. And Charmander about lines up with the Crew, predictionwise. I can't help but feel this next match is going to surprise again. Altair beating Lucario is what I'm thinking more than Isaac over Altair but we'll see. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/20/2008 7:53:42 PM | message detail |
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The Black Mage does have more personality than Cloud, though. no --- Arsenal FC 4-0-1 Pts: 12 Pos: Top of the league, where we belong. character battle vii ; final fantasy vii. do you believe |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/20/2008 7:53:43 PM | message detail |
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This match will now become the closest match between 1st and 4th. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 4/8 Today's Match: Marth > Niko |
| Tohoya | Posted 9/20/2008 7:56:39 PM | message detail |
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Weren't Half Life/Half Life 2 already released on the PS2 and/or Xbox? They were, but they didn't sell very well. Orange Box did over a million on consoles. --- "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --Ezekiel 23:20 |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 8:16:15 PM | message detail |
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After reading where I left off, Few things: Lucario is an unknown Pokémon Lucario's the most popular Pokemon from the new gen, which is the whole reason he's in brawl in the 1st place.Hell, he got a movie to announce him >_> Plus having that much Furry porn is disturbing 0_o Zack impressed. we underestimated him. Said underestimation shouldnt have happened in the 1st place. He's basically a prominent FF7 character now. What did you people think was going to happen? http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9125/r21stmatch3rq5.png If this is the acctual pic, people are going to Overate Zack and Cloud SOOOOO much after this <_< And honestly it's just the most ugly pic he's received, and that's saying something. No. He's always been pretty weak. Arthas Duke Nukem Ike Revolver Ocelot ...Arthas > Ike rather reluctantly. Arthas probably saps PC votes from Duke, and well, While I feel Arthas is stupidly strong(for a PC only character), we dont acctually know how strong he is. I'll go with BRAWLFEAR for Ike. Everyone seems to like Ike in brawl. Ocelot is weak 1v1, but could also pull it off in this format. Thus the reluctance. Duke is screwed thanks to Arthas :/ Speaking of which, would anyone take Duke > Marth in this poll if Niko were removed? hmm, depends on who was in instead. btw, Gordon Was in consoles before the box folks <_< --- Warning, there is a bear right behind you. Ride Him. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 8:17:33 PM | message detail |
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Round 1 Division 1- Match 4 Altair The main character from the critically mediocre Assassin's Creed makes his debut. Will he be able to beat out fodder to advance? Who the hell knows. Guybrush Threepwood One of the weakest pieces of crap in contest history returns yet again. goddamn you board 8 Isaac Isaac impressed last year by beating Serge decisively, but that's like saying Vyse beating Laharl was impressive. Lucario Barring something strange, the Pokemon/Smash character should have little trouble here. Then again, that's what we said about Shadow. Analysis Another match that we don't have too much to go on. Guybrush takes last as he's one of the weakest pieces of fodder we've had in these things. But Lucario and Altair are complete unknowns. They could both be solid midcarders, or they could both be fodder. Common sense says to go with the Pokemon here, but Altair could be a dark horse here. Personally, Lucario > Altair seems the most likely result here given Isaac's fodder tendencies, but Isaac is high end fodder, which may be enough to beat Altair. I've given up trying to say anything with certainty this year since I am now 0-3 TuRtLe's Prediction:Lucario 37%, Altair 28%, Isaac 25%, Guybrush 10% TuRtLe's Bracket: Lucario > Altair TuRtLe's Vote: *abstain* |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 9/20/2008 8:25:24 PM | message detail |
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btw, Gordon Was in consoles before the box folks <_< Nobody cared about Half-Life on the PS2 (PS1?). HL2 was released at the end of the Xbox's life, and wasn't advertised at all. It sold nothing. Orange Box is the first significant Half-Life related game on consoles. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/20/2008 8:26:35 PM | message detail |
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So what's with people going "Tommy Vercetti was so weak he almost lost
to Kefka!" and then saying that's why Niko would lose and then say
Kefka would get second? Because that makes no sense at all. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 8:28:27 PM | message detail |
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Hey, I said Tommy beat Kefka 3 years after Vice City, so Niko should have no trouble. I would have been totally correct if not for Duke Bracketwreckem |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 8:30:31 PM | message detail |
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Wont argue that. just thought I'd point that out. Still wonder what happened to the DC version. It was done, so...wtf? --- Warning, there is a bear right behind you. Ride Him. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 8:36:15 PM | message detail |
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Division 1: Round 1 - Match 4 – Altair vs. Guybrush Threepwood vs. Isaac vs. Lucario Moltar’s Analysis Altair Game/Series Known From: Assassin’s Creed 2007 Results: N/A The Guru Winner’s Pick makes his first contest appearance (darn you ec) Guybrush Game/Series Known From: Monkey Island 2007 Results: 4th Place in Round 1 vs. Duke, Gordon and Ike People, just stop nominating him. He’s suffered enough. Isaac Game/Series Known From: Golden Sun 2007 Results: 3rd Place in Round 1 vs. Pikachu, Tidus and Serge Another 3rd Place Round 1 exit for Isaac? Lucario Game/Series Known From: Pokemon 2007 Results: N/A Brawl Character #4, Did somebody say Pokemon? Oh boy… And the sad, sad division of Round 1 comes to an end. Brackets are weeping, users are crying, and everything is just ugly. Plus, aside from Link, this division is just one big pile of bleh and low-midcarders. This group is no exception, as we have 4th place Guybrush here to be the period at the end of this statement. We saw how Pokemon did last year, and pretty much all of them did great. Mewtwo looked good in his match. Pikachu, who I thought was still cool to hate, got to Round 4. Even jokes like Mudkip and Bidoof got to Round 2. Now we have Lucario, who is not only one of the most popular new-gen Pokemon, but also is a character in Brawl. Those two things alone should propel him over this pitiful bunch. Then there’s Altair, and really, who cares about him? Assassin’s Creed didn’t get the best reception on the site, and I see no reason to think Altair will be strong at all. His biggest challenge is Isaac of Golden Sun. At this point, I wouldn’t count out the upset, but I’m not expecting it. Even if you think Pikachu made Isaac look bad last year, Lucario being here won’t do him any favors. Altair is going to be weak, but fortunately for him, his competition is also poop, so he should be able to get to Round 2. (Lucario > Isaac confirmed) Moltar’s Bracket Says: Lucario > Altair Moltar’s Prediction is: Lucario: 38% - Altair: 30% - Isaac: 20% - Guybrush: 12% Heroic Mario’s Analysis Worst match in the bracket? Maybe. Check out the contestants here - fodder, super fodder, super fodder, damn you brawl kids stop doing this The two winners are pretty obvious in this one - Altair and Lucario. But deciding the order is where things get tricky. Lucario's here entirely on the back of Brawl, which I'm pretty unfamiliar with but he's supposedly like Mewtwo in the "cool" factor (protip: Google Image Searching "Lucario" is baaaad news holy damn what is wrong with the internet). The thing is, Altair's from a game that probably doesn't hit the GameFAQs demographic all that well. Still, Assassin's Creed was a huge seller - 6 million worldwide - was multiplatform, and reviewed well enough. Add to that Altair has a cool look and he's got the potential. The only problem with Altair is that we've seen the Prince in action before to less than spectacular results, so he's probably not the best choice. It'll be a close match either way, but on principle (goddamn you deviantart) I'm sticking with Altair. If I had a case of BRAWLFEAR, I might go with Lucario, who's no doubt the safer choice, but...nah. As for Isaac and Guybrush, there's not much to say there. Both should warrant a big "who" from most voters. Isaac probably less so, but he was bad enough last year with Pikachu in the poll. Lucario should ensure he doesn't make much noise. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 8:36:32 PM | message detail |
| p.s. - did i mention that altair's outfit is an
unlockable in mgs4 you know what that means boost woo woo all aboard
the metal gear hype train who's with me Prediction: Altair - 37% ; Lucario - 35% ; Isaac - 15% ; Guybrush - 13% Bracket: Altair > Lucario Vote: http://content.ytmnd.com/content/c/a/0/ca0f4036818569c44c33be9ad46e112f.gif Yoblazer’s Analysis Three matches, three surprising results. This bracket is already earning its pre-contest title of Toughest ****ing Thing Ever, and we're still days away from the joke characters! Luckily for us, and because too much chaos in too short a time can be a bad thing, I think we're in for a fairly predictable match today. I say this, however, with all the trepidation of a wide-eyed soldier who thinks he's crossed the mine field. But a match between two relatively obscure RPG characters, a popular BRAWL-E-MON, and a cool looking piece of casual bait can't be THAT hard, can it? Let's tackle this thing in a way the current contest hero and the guy who kicked my bracket in the nuts, Duke Nukem, would be proud. Our standout for the day is clearly Lucario, the popular new-age Pokemon and Brawl competitor. Lucario has been dealt all the cards. He's the only Nintendo option (not counting Isaac lalalalala I am not listening), he, like Marth, is a likable Nintendo option, and he has solid Pokemon cred to back up his Smash appeal. These factors should make him stronger than Marth himself, and he's up against competition that will be significantly weaker than the guys Marth is beating as we speak. This implies that Lucario will rock face tonight, and yeah, I'd be dumbfounded if he didn't cruise to an easy victory. His opponents are Altair from last year's Assassin's Creed, Isaac from the Golden Sun series, and Monkey Island's main dude, Guybrush Threepwood (love typing that name). Guybrush, that lovable rapscallion, is arguably the weakest regularly returning entrant in contest history. He has never avoided a blowout loss, and today will be no different. Keep fighting the good fight, Guybrush! Up until the last day or so, Altair finishing in the runner-up spot was an unchallenged fact. Amidst the craziest non-joke division in the bracket, this match was the lone certainty. However, the last few upsets have caused some people to wonder. Could Isaac, the handheld RPG star who has never amounted to anything in a previous contest, topple Altair, an unknown newcomer? My short answer is "no." I'm not expecting Altair to be anything special, but I am expecting him to be relatively comparable to Niko Bellic, which should be enough to clean up second place here. Assassin's Creed, while not as critically acclaimed as many would have hoped, was still one of the most hyped, most advertised, best selling games of 2007, and Altair had his image plastered all over it. While the game's less-than-stellar reception may hurt the hooded assassin, his wicked cool design and photogenic look (seriously, I just said "hooded assassin") will help him. Isaac's Golden Sun fanbase simply won't allow him to threaten here. Lucario - 37% Altair - 30% Isaac - 21% Guybrush Threepwood - 12% Lopen’s Analysis Alright, I'm not going to waste your time here by talking about the other two. Screw em. I wish it was Jade Curtiss and Jade Curtiss there... at least that'd be funny. Well, to be fair, Isaac is garden variety fodder, whereas Guybrush... you'd think Guybrush fans would stop nominating him as a form of mercy killing at this point. It's one thing to be fodder, it's another to be Guybrush. For instance... I love Zelos, but man, I didn't even bother nominating him this year after that sad sad showing last year. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 8:37:19 PM | message detail |
| Anyway, rant aside... Pokemanz and Brawl vs some
jackass assassin with a creed that says repetitive missions and overly
cliffhangery endings are good! Good pick on this one, EC... well at
least he's not Wario. In fact, I kinda like the guy, I was just being
mean. I don't really think he has a chance, because Assassin's Creed
got a really lukewarm reception. But hey, he looks really cool. He's
got my vote, at least. ... but Lucario should wreck him, I think. Why hasn't Nariko made it into this contest yet? She'd be a better current gen character than Altair or the Nathan brothers dammit. ... I'm talking about the Heavenly Sword chick. ... what? BOLD PREDICTION: All characters defeated by Altair this year remain gone forever! Do your damn job, Assassin. Guybrush wanted some coin. I heard him. Lopen's prediction: Lucario - 37.04% Altair - 30.95% Isaac - 20.02% Jade Curtiss >> You - 11.99% Transience’s Analysis I'm scared at picking anything at this point since it's clearly going to lose. but I march on for your amusement! this match seems completely obvious as far as who's going to advance. Guybrush, as much as I love the guy, is no good. he's going to get the 10% that he always gets, get the awesome picture that he always gets, and then leave us without a Threepwood for another year. Isaac just isn't very strong unless you buy that Pikachu hurt him last year, and even if he did, Lucario's there to pick up the tab this year. this leaves us with the overwhelming favourites to advance, Lucario and Altair. Lucario is the favourite because he's new and exciting - he's basically the new Mewtwo, and he's in Brawl, which means he's guaranteed to be over the fodder line. it's Altair that's the question mark - his game wasn't universally praised, but it also didn't bomb - the sales numbers for the thing are crazy. 1.16m on the PS3, 2.56m on the 360 - that's more than Brawl is at right now. I haven't played AC, but Altair seems pretty liked with a likable design. it was good enough for Kojima, apparently, as they dressed Snake up like Altair for a trailer. Assassin's Creed was highly anticipated by GameFAQs, too, so you can throw the "oh, GameFAQs doesn't care about this game" argument: Poll 2929 (11/08/07) Which scheduled November console release are you most looking forward to? 30741 28.66% Assassin's Creed 1784 1.66% Kane & Lynch: Dead Men 13316 12.41% Mass Effect 10285 9.59% Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles 8245 7.69% Rock Band 36840 34.35% Super Mario Galaxy 1399 1.3% TimeShift 4654 4.34% WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2008 TOTAL VOTES: 107264 if you spend enough time swimming through the numbers, you can convince yourself that Altair's gonna be pretty good. I'm pretty skeptical given the lukewarm reception the game got and how it seemed to die off after it came out (what's up Niko), but I wouldn't be amazed if he pulled off first here. I get this odd feeling that he's like a weaker version of the Prince of Persia, and POP would go about even with a random Brawl character. Lucario is a random Brawl character, but he's also got that Pokemon thing goin' on, meaning he's worth more. I've got a lot of reservations about the dude, but I trust Brawl more than I trust Assassin's Creed, that's for sure. Pokemon, do bad? not in a four-way contest Altair gets second transience's prediction: Lucario with 36.48%, Altair with 31.55%, Isaac with 21.98%, Guybrush with 9.99% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 8:37:51 PM | message detail |
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Ngamer’s Analysis Haha! Well after that 0/2 start I was pretty much sure we'd be moving to 0/3, given how nutzo that last 4 pack was. And for the first time all Contest I was right! The good news is, now we're moving on to one of the 11 R1 matches that I did go ahead and call a lock in my initial bracket analysis. Does that really mean anything though, with how badly these results have been making us all (I mean Guru, Oracle, BOP, AND Crew) look like fools? Let's take a closer look, see if we can get any answers! Last Known Values Lucario - new Altair - new Isaac - 14.20% (2007) Guybrush - 9.12% (2007) First of all, congrats to the Gurus for banding together and earning Altair such a winnable bracket positioning. That being said... I have almost 0 faith in the guy's actual popularity. Sure, he looks cool in the match pic, but people moved on from AC so quickly after those strong initial sales that I can't see any character having much of a lasting impact. I gave some serious thought to the Isaac upset here, but then I thought that maybe Pikachu hurt him with the Nintendo RPG handheld vote in '07, and if so, Lucario ought to be able to hold him back in a similar way here. Speaking of Lucario, boy, what an unknown. I hear some people saying he's like the face of the new Pokemon generation, but then others say he can't compare to Mewtwo in terms of being the "ultimate Pokemon" or whatever. And in any case I didn't hear people going too wild when he was announced for Brawl- the only reaction I remember was people upset that Mewtwo had been booted. But look, we're talking GameFAQs 4-ways, where even Bidoof is somehow worth 21% on BL- unless I'm 100% off about Altair, Luc's not going to need to be worth much of anything to run away with this. Isaac was worth 14 last season, but as I mentioned that might be unfair... the poor guy was on the bottom of a 4-way RPG totem pole, plus Pikachu potentially hurt him by being a Nintendo handheld draw. He's probably a good bit closer to the fodder line than that performance indicated. As for Guybrush, well, it seems pretty certain that he really IS that weak, and the only question is why 200 people continue to nominate a guy who's proven himself to be 10% on BL three times now. Seriously, we can do better! In summary I still feel this one is a lock, but only because I have an enormous lack of respect for Altair, and just barely enough respect for Lucario's Nintendo presence to keep Isaac out of the running. So if we assign Luc a midrange Pokemon value and Altair something a bit under Marcus from last year, we can stir the pot and find... Lucario - 36.41% Altair - 27.90% Isaac - 24.00% Guybrush Threepwood - 11.69% Hm... seems just about right. Ngamer Says: Lucario > Altair Guest’s Analysis - NotTerrafire Those of you staggering into this match after taking three consecutive beatings; those of you who knew even FFVII fans don't support characters seen solely in flashbacks; those who like your Compilation of FFVII out of sight and out of mind; those who knew Final Fantasy IX was a relatively poorly-selling end-of-shelf-life game; those who were sure that if the old-school gamers would rally round any standard, it would be Kefka's: fear not. This is how you will lose your next four points. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 8:38:31 PM | message detail |
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Altair vs Isaac vs Guybrush vs Lucario In all likelihood, you won't be losing your points. The sensible pick is also the overwhelming favourite. Firstly, we can discount Guybrush, much as it pains me. Whether GameFAQers appreciate his particular brand of daring and humour is a moot point; they haven't had a chance to experience it for years. From the occasion when he was thrashed by Ryo Hazuki (subsequently beaten by the 'mighty' Lara Croft) to the first round of last year when he might as well have stayed at home, it's a cliché nobody bothers saying: Guybrush Threepwood Never Wins. Let's look at Golden Sun hero Isaac next. An Assist trophy in Brawl, Isaac might have been able to count on a portion of that substantial fanbase. However, there's a large Pokemon shaped obstacle in the way there. There is another Brawl character in this round, this one actually playable, so we can, for all intents and purposes, discount Brawlfear here. Now anyone thinking Golden Sun will carry Isaac through here is optimistic at best, maybe misguided, maybe short of a few. Isaac stays here. A new challenger appears !! I'm quite prepared to believe the theory that in this video gaming generation there is a divide of sorts between those who have Nintendo hardware, be it Wii or DS, and those who go for Microsoft and Sony. We have a couple of choices in this round for those of the big N persuasion, but it's a fact that there are many gamers who neither have a Nintendo console nor like their aesthetic. Essentially, Assassin's Creed, and by extension Altair, has their vote. I'm not suggesting Altair is a particularly well-liked character - I'm not expecting him to go further than Round 2 - but the lopsided nature of this match means he wins second place. Explicit Content, see what thou hast wrought. Which brings us to the victor, Lucario. Two fanbases that anyone should be wary of come together here: Smash Bros. and Pokémon. Lucario could conceivably draw anti-votes for replacing good old Mewtwo, but those diehards will be an insignificant factor. This will be a walk in the park; a statement of intent; an indication of what to expect. Lucario onwards and upwards. Which probably brings you to the conclusion that you have wasted minutes of your life seeing the obvious being spelt out. Correct. Take four points for your trouble. Lucario > Altair ( > Isaac > Guybrush) Lucario 43% Altair 28% Isaac 19% Guybrush 10% Crew Consensus: Isaac > Guybrush confirmed with our luck. C'mon Lucario and Altair! |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 8:39:05 PM | message detail |
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Go Isaac! --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/20/2008 8:43:34 PM | message detail |
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Go Guybrush! --- Mustache...and green... |
| Malakuko | Posted 9/20/2008 8:44:03 PM | message detail |
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Go Lucario! haha mine's not hopeless --- http://img.imgcake.com//christ2.gif http://img.imgcake.com//dannynoriegaanimated.gif Mer NOICE |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 8:52:46 PM | message detail |
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Go Isaac indeed. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| transience | Posted 9/20/2008 8:52:54 PM | message detail |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-9my0tsutw --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 9:00:14 PM | message detail |
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Altair 6.45% 2 Guybrush Threepwood 19.35% 6 Isaac 16.13% 5 Lucario 58.06% 18 TOTAL VOTES 31 let's go --- Moltar Status: augh Altair/Guybrush/Isaac/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Altair - Vote: Lucario (6/12) |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 9:00:16 PM | message detail |
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Altair 8% 2 Guybrush Threepwood 20% 5 Isaac 20% 5 Lucario 52% 13 TOTAL VOTES 25 --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 9:00:21 PM | message detail |
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Altair 10% 5 Guybrush Threepwood 18% 9 Isaac 14% 7 Lucario 58% 29 TOTAL VOTES 50 FEEL THE AURA --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:00:53 PM | message detail |
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FEEL THE ALTAIR! --- ...I'm still War13104! "and seriously, white flags, god damnit. v.v" - ExThaNemesis, 11:44 PM EST, 1/28/07 |
| transience | Posted 9/20/2008 9:00:56 PM | message detail |
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whoaaaa let's do this 0 for 4 --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 9:01:01 PM | message detail |
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what --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 9:01:07 PM | message detail |
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ahahaha --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 9:01:08 PM | message detail |
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Altair, baby --- let's mosey |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 9/20/2008 9:01:08 PM | message detail |
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Altair winning with the board vote ...what |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 9:01:21 PM | message detail |
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Altair is... that's it i quit this contest --- Moltar Status: augh Altair/Guybrush/Isaac/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Altair - Vote: Lucario (6/12) |
| The_Ocelot2 | Posted 9/20/2008 9:01:35 PM | message detail |
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hellz yeah Altair --- Go Ducks Go! This fox is still one step ahead of the hounds |
