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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 569
| Yesmar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:58:52 AM | message detail |
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OK, my post was in response to smitelf. I guess more posts came in then I thought would. --- "The builders never understand how their creations truly feel."--Shadow the Hedgehog |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 10:58:53 AM | message detail |
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what reality check is that? what do any of those matches have to do with Isaac? We've just seen three upsets in three days. Counting out any semi-reasonable upset is foolish at this point. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 10:59:04 AM | message detail |
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He's just saying you can't count anything out of the realm of possibility after these first three matches. Except for Guybrush sucking horribly. That's a lock. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:59:32 AM | message detail |
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If Arthas surprises us, there's a good chance he beats Pikachu outright. Most of the SSB support is *not* going to Pika. as if Arthas would ever come close to Alucard. i'd expect Pikachu to split more with Luigi than Ike. Arthas can get second, but first is extremely slim based on what i've seen of him against Luigi. --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 10:59:36 AM | message detail |
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Psh, stop talking like Zack > Wario was an upset! It's an upset in statistical value only! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:59:43 AM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb7/cb7-04.jpg I admit that Altair looks badass, but Isaac looks even better. I think he stands a good chance to advance tomorrow. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/20/2008 11:00:49 AM | message detail |
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In all fairness, Isaac only did 5% worse on Samus than Frog did. We
should probably keep that in mind somewhat. That being said, Pikachu
might have SFFd him a tad last year, in which case Lucario should
probably do the same. --- "The builders never understand how their creations truly feel."--Shadow the Hedgehog |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 11:00:59 AM | message detail |
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Counting out any semi-reasonable upset is foolish at this point. those upsets had more possibilities. there's still little reason to believe Isaac will do anything especially with Lucario also in the poll. i could care less how shocked you are about Shadow being a leecher. --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
| smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 11:01:39 AM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#242) It's within the realm of possibilities in this universe, but out of all the matches in this wacky division, tomorrow's is easily the least likely upset. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 11:02:05 AM | message detail |
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those upsets had more possibilities. there's still little reason to believe Isaac will do anything especially with Lucario also in the poll. i could care less how shocked you are about Shadow being a leecher. It doesn't. Matter. Altair could flop, or Isaac could overperform, or something. It's not likely at all, but are you seriously saying there's a 0% chance it happens? --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 11:02:34 AM | message detail |
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It's within the realm of possibilities in this universe, but out of
all the matches in this wacky division, tomorrow's is easily the least
likely upset. Yes, that's what I was getting at. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 11:03:17 AM | message detail |
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In all fairness, Isaac only did 5% worse on Samus than Frog did. We should probably keep that in mind somewhat. Frog was probably facing a stronger Samus, for what it's worth. Hard to say though. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 11:04:31 AM | message detail |
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Also, why are we debating Isaac instead of Felix anyway? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 11:05:09 AM | message detail |
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Because Felix isn't in the contest? --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 11:07:10 AM | message detail |
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It doesn't. Matter. Altair could flop, or Isaac could overperform Isaac could overperform with Lucario also there? i cant see it. Altair could flop but i have a tough time seeing Altair being an Ammy or something. but are you seriously saying there's a 0% chance it happens? no; not 0%. just so slim that it shouldnt even be discussed. --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/20/2008 11:08:01 AM | message detail |
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Isaac probably always was more popular than Felix anyway. As someone
who's played both Golden Sun games, Isaac is more prominent in them as
a whole and the main character in the more popular one. Felix is kind
of more of a bad ass, but there's nothing annoying or lame about Isaac,
so I doubt it matters that much in this situation. Keep in mind that
the game Felix starred in came out only three months before his match
in 2003. --- "The builders never understand how their creations truly feel."--Shadow the Hedgehog |
| Kaxon | Posted 9/20/2008 11:13:11 AM | message detail |
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I still don't understand why Duke Nukem appears to be more popular
now than he ever has been in these contests. Very odd. I doubt that
people are joke voting him due to DNF; I doubt that a lot of new gamers
even get the joke, and he's doing even better than Duke Milkem did, at
least in my opinion. I seriously think the joke is actually getting bigger and more well known. When we had Duke Milkem, Duke really hadn't been seen for years. Now we've had new trailers the last two years, and this year's e3 trailer was hilarious. When that trailer came out, people were talking about it where I work. --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 11:17:45 AM | message detail |
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I think you're overanalyzing this just a tad. Ike doesn't have to be from a more popular series to be a more popular character. Agreed there, but the details still speak differently to me (perhaps because of "overanalyzing" if you insist). I know we fundamentally disagree on how SSB-fans feel about Smash characters once they join the series, but I still don't think Ike this year could have matched Pikachu on anything he did last year. Pikachu should at least disrupt Ike's standard strength, wherever it's at right now, due to them being enjoyed by similar kinds of players in SSBB. It's fair to assume Pokemon fans have been/will be more hardcore in this format than FE and that are/were more Pokemon fans than FE fans... ...to overanalyze the fanbases some more, it could be a case of LFF in SSBB (whether SSB-longivity matters or not; I don't think Pika or Ike win big here either way) and SFF in Pokemon/FE between the two (which favors Pikachu). It doesn't look good for Ike like that, especially since I wouldn't take him to beat Diablo in either format and we saw Arthas beat Diablo last year. I feel like if Ike advances, he's got to beat Pikachu...and given what Pokemon did last year and my stance on SSB-longivity, I can't do that. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 11:21:30 AM | message detail |
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I'm just skeptical of Pikachu in general. I know he did fine against
Luigi and all last year. I just have a hard time seeing him as a
FAVORED character. Sure, the Pokemon hate in general has died down
considerably, but Pikachu still has this stigma in my eyes. If he can
beat Ike here (and maybe Diddy next round if he's there), that'll prove
a lot to me. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 11:30:38 AM | message detail |
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Duke and Niko seem to be stabilizing, percentage-wise. Marth's still going up and Kefka's still going down though. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 12:19:15 PM | message detail |
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Here's a question that ought to get HaRR fired up: How well do you think Ness would be doing right now? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 12:21:37 PM | message detail |
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As in replacing Marth? He gets second, with Duke in 1st by a little bit. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 12:28:15 PM | message detail |
| I'm actually really worried about tomorrow. Isaac is weak, yes, but Altair could very well be weaker, and we already saw Niko job, why not another new mainstream character? |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 12:30:08 PM | message detail |
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Niko didn't really job though. He beat Kefka as expected...what we didn't expect was Duke to be so strong. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| Tohoya | Posted 9/20/2008 12:30:33 PM | message detail |
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It's within the realm of possibilities in this universe, but out of
all the matches in this wacky division, tomorrow's is easily the least
likely upset. I dunno, I'd put Zidane > Shadow as a less likely upset than Isaac > Altair. We've never seen Altair before; I think it's entirely possible that, as popular as his game is, no one really cares about his character. We'll see. --- "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --Ezekiel 23:20 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 12:34:17 PM | message detail |
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Duke being stronger than we realize isnt Niko jobbing. i think he did fine honestly. it just depends on how you interpret Isaac/Kefka in relations to Altair/Niko. --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 12:35:04 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Shadow was supposed to be a lock yesterday. Tomorrow is up in the air with the way things have been going. It'll be nice to put this lame division behind us and start off on the right foot next round with Zack. |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/20/2008 12:36:53 PM | message detail |
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BT's got the right idea. hail black haired cloud --- Arsenal FC 4-0-1 Pts: 12 Pos: Top of the league, where we belong. character battle vii ; final fantasy vii. do you believe |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 12:41:46 PM | message detail |
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i dont see why everybody's making a big deal out of the first three matches. the first division just happened to be hard. Zack impressed. we underestimated him. he was a new character. Shadow was a leecher. what a surprise; we expected him to be. today... was pretty much normal. most of our first guesses were Duke in second. why are we saying tomorrow is up in the air just because most of us are screwed by at least one of these matches? --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 12:46:47 PM | message detail |
| I'd go as far as saying that tomorrow's results
have a teeny bit more doubt cast upon them, but that's about it. We
know Guybrush is finishing last, we know Lucario is finishing first,
and we know Isaac only managed 17.6% against opponents who are not too
different from these. Altair has to be a bigger bust than Shadow to
fail tomorrow. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 12:48:18 PM | message detail |
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Lucario finishing first should not be taken with 100% certainty. I
mean, I have it, but it wouldn't be the most unexpected thing to me at
least in this division if Altair beat him out. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| WishFulfillment | Posted 9/20/2008 12:49:11 PM | message detail |
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I'm saying it's up in the air because I've been screwed by all 3. I was
pretty confident in the first two matches, even though it was obvious
they had upset potential (or just going against my bracket potential).
Today everyone knew was a cluster****. Attempting to say that tomorrow
isn't up in the air is just foolish though. The majority of us are
banking on a character we've never seen in the contests to come in 2nd,
and another to come in 1st. That alone should make it up in the air. We
have no idea where these characters really fall in the grand scheme of
character strengths. Anyone who thinks it's a lock at this point is
just asking to be made to look like a fool. --- wish fulfillment every day |
| Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 12:49:32 PM | message detail |
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most of our first guesses were Duke in second. Only 21 gurus had that, don't make things up. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 12:50:15 PM | message detail |
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we know Lucario is finishing first Don't jinx it! And yeah, I wouldn't call Niko a bust. He's basically shown himself to be Vercetti's equal, which is a low midcarder. It's just that the Duke turned out to be better than we expected. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 12:50:53 PM | message detail |
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Only 21 gurus had that, don't make things up. I think he means that many people had Duke in their brackets at one point but changed it. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 9/20/2008 12:50:54 PM | message detail |
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Altair won't beat him. He's less popular then Niko, easily. Despite
GTA4 being a love/hate game, Assassin's Creed is much, much more so.
And Altair is more of a douche compared to Niko. Altair is only finishing second place because Isaac/Guybrush are that weak. In fact, I won't be surprised at all if Isaac beats Altair. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| paraboxx | Posted 9/20/2008 12:51:14 PM | message detail |
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Three thoughts, after seeing this result. 1) I hate Niko. 2) I hate Duke. 3) I wish I had Sonic > Sandbag in my bracket. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 12:54:02 PM | message detail |
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I really don't think that this necessarily means Niko = Tommy by the
way. Kefka seems to be pretty picture dependent and this is the worst picture he's gotten. I think Lettuce or the clown abomination would be making it close with Duke right now. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| WishFulfillment | Posted 9/20/2008 12:54:16 PM | message detail |
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more like Auron > Sandbag. I'm so pissed I couldn't pull the trigger on that one. --- wish fulfillment every day |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 12:56:31 PM | message detail |
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I think Lettuce or the clown abomination would be making it close with Duke right now. I doubt he'd be doing significantly better. He wouldn't be in this match. People are always quick to put the blame on Kefka's pic instead of just admitting he's weak. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 12:59:16 PM | message detail |
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more like Auron > Sandbag. I'm so pissed I couldn't pull the trigger on that one. Same. The fact I like both those guys more than Sonic only DEEPENS THE WOUND. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 12:59:54 PM | message detail |
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Don't listen to him, Kefka. Next year. Next year... --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 1:00:28 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, old Square still seems to be on the decline. Makes me wonder how Frog will do. Also, Crono is doomed. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 1:01:07 PM | message detail |
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OFFICIAL Mock Match pic for the 1st match of R2: http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9125/r21stmatch3rq5.png These will be updated when necessary. For this one, I redid Link and Zidane's pics and switched Zack and Wario. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 1:02:35 PM | message detail |
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Frog should be safe against KOS-MOS; he'll get rallied to a win if it's
anything near close. However, I can't believe I briefly had him over Ganondorf in Round 2! Man, that one's worth cracking a beer open and laughing about. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Kegger9 | Posted 9/20/2008 1:03:57 PM | message detail |
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Crono and Frog will be fine, don't be silly. It's the old FFs that have always had weak and unmemorable characters. --- what ever i always new bruce wayne was batman anyway - ertyu |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 1:04:01 PM | message detail |
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Update at the 16:00 mark: Marth gets 52.36% on Duke, 56.22% on Niko, and 57.09% on Kefka. Duke gets 53.89% on Niko and 54.77% on Kefka. Niko gets 50.88% on Kefka. Match has broken 100,000 votes, too! Huzzah! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| WishFulfillment | Posted 9/20/2008 1:04:22 PM | message detail |
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disembodied zidane head ftw --- wish fulfillment every day |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 1:06:18 PM | message detail |
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Crono and Frog weren't fine last year! There were like a dozen Board
8ers working our butts off just to get him out of the first round. It
was great fun, but not what I'd call legit strength. And then he went
and got killed by Scorpion. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 1:07:01 PM | message detail |
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People are always quick to put the blame on Kefka's pic instead of just admitting he's weak. It's not exactly unfounded. The one time he had a good pic he put up around a Zero level performance. If he had a decline that's even a fraction of the increase Angel Kefka gave him then Niko wouldn't have a chance. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
