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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 569
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:14:47 AM | message detail |
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if you have Arthas > Ike i feel bad for you. --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 10:16:26 AM | message detail |
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I can't see that going anything but Pikachu > Arthas Though there is a chance Ike hurts Pikachu enough that Arthas might grab the win.... scary. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 10:16:43 AM | message detail |
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http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/7/7b/Arthas_Artwork.jpg IT IS I WHO FEELS UNGOOD FOR YOU --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 10:17:00 AM | message detail |
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...how do people expect Ike to hardly be different from last year?
Seriously. I'm still going with Pika > Arthas, but Marth is doing
well today and Ike hardly had ANYTHING last year. He had two FE games
and was announced on a website...now he's one of the top guys in SSBB. I'm one of the people most against giving Ike any credit last year, but he's NOT the Ike he was last year either. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| Swnage_Otranger | Posted 9/20/2008 10:17:01 AM | message detail |
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Part 569 --- GT: KrisTheAwsome |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 10:19:40 AM | message detail |
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Oh, I'm expecting a stronger Ike, sure. What I don't understand,
however, is the sense of overconfidence this match is instilling in his
supporters. How is Marth warranting such a reaction? He's not
overperforming or anything. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:25:51 AM | message detail |
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Damn, I should have stuck to my original prediction in Oracle instead
of letting the Niko hype get to me. At least my bracket is getting a
boost today from my Marth > Duke prediction after Shadow carved a
hole in it yesterday. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 10:26:31 AM | message detail |
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I agree there...I hate that match just because it feels like ignorance
is coming from both ways about Ike, whether it's going by strictly how
he did last year or strictly his user-rate in SSBB. It's made all the
worse that we don't really know what SHOULD happen with him. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 10:28:05 AM | message detail |
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It's more Duke than Marth. People kept using losing to Duke as an
example for why Ike was so weak...and just look at this poll. Marth
doing great is a bonus. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/20/2008 10:29:16 AM | message detail |
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People are really overestimating Pikachu, seeing as how the rat got
creamed by Leon in round 2 and needed an FF fanbase split to (barely)
advance. Ike/Arthas will expose him and Alucard will take care of him
in round 2. --- "Men that are trapped by chains of 'maybe' can never reach their dreams!" Explicit Content > me in the Guru |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 10:31:18 AM | message detail |
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Since Marth's brought up Ike, let's ask this: if Arthas was in Kefka's
place, how would the match be looking? We've seen Arthas beat Diablo
last year and nearly outdo KOS-MOS despite Diablo, we know Diablo beat
Kefka in 2k5, and many expect the new WoW expansion to do something for him. Does Arthas compete with Marth in Kefka's place, or do people not trust Arthas in this situation? --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| Malakuko | Posted 9/20/2008 10:32:03 AM | message detail |
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dammit Niko come on --- http://img.imgcake.com//christ2.gif http://img.imgcake.com//dannynoriegaanimated.gif Mer We rockin' stilettos, ho! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:33:31 AM | message detail |
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Pikachu's path was all kinds of weird last year. People tend to
overlook his Round 2 match because of what he did in his other three
matches. You can justify having Pikachu win or lose based on at least one of his matches last year. --- Moltar Status: augh Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Marth (4/8) |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 10:33:36 AM | message detail |
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I'd love to see Duke perforn in this kind of environment with one Top
20 character in this. I have a feeling that Duke does better against
midcarders, jobbers, and those without much casual support (as in more
than just being in SSB). If that's the case, he got some damn lucky
bracket placement as no one challenges him until Round 3. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/20/2008 10:34:05 AM | message detail |
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I have no clue. I'm seeing Pikachu/Arthas/Ike as being really close. --- "Men that are trapped by chains of 'maybe' can never reach their dreams!" Explicit Content > me in the Guru |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 10:34:29 AM | message detail |
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Considering how Duke did in R2 last year, if he gets to R3 Link is going to just murder him. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 10:35:23 AM | message detail |
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People are really overestimating Pikachu, seeing as how the rat got
creamed by Leon in round 2 and needed an FF fanbase split to (barely)
advance. Ike/Arthas will expose him and Alucard will take care of him
in round 2. Ike and Arthas would have lost as badly there in R2, if not worse. Alucard's no Leon, either; he's closer to Tidus than anything, who Pikachu beat twice last year. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 10:36:27 AM | message detail |
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Of course, if R2 was a fluke last year, I'd like to see Duke challenge Zack for the Quarterfinals. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:38:09 AM | message detail |
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Alucard's plan is that Diddy kills Pikachu in round 2. I hope, but no one except Alucard knows what his plan is.... --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 10:38:45 AM | message detail |
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I agree there...I hate that match just because it feels like
ignorance is coming from both ways about Ike, whether it's going by
strictly how he did last year or strictly his user-rate in SSBB. It's
made all the worse that we don't really know what SHOULD happen with
him. The best part is, no matter where you think Ike is, it doesn't matter, because there's no way he's beating Pikachu, and Pikachu's presence is basically giving Arthas a bye to the second round. |
| smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:39:34 AM | message detail |
| I'm not sure why people are so surprised that Duke
is doing well. If you start from a base of "lol x-stats", factor in a
boost for Marth from Brawl and assume Niko ~= Vercetti, you get pretty
close to what's actually happening here. (Though this model wouldn't
predict Kefka doing so badly - I blame his worst pic EVER for that.) --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 10:40:50 AM | message detail |
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BT, with offense, you're a problem I have with Ike's match. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:40:55 AM | message detail |
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If you start from a base of "lol x-stats", factor in a boost for
Marth from Brawl and assume Niko ~= Vercetti, you get pretty close to
what's actually happening here. If you use the "lol xstats" Duke is high end fodder based on his performance on Guybrush. --- "The builders never understand how their creations truly feel."--Shadow the Hedgehog |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 10:41:20 AM | message detail |
| The issue is what happened in the second round with Duke last year. It's very easy to make sense of the first round. Gordon/Duke PC SFF let Ike look like he was worth something, but the next round slams Duke back down way below the fodder line. Unless the Orange Box made an even SFF split into an absolute beatdown. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/20/2008 10:41:42 AM | message detail |
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Ike and Arthas would have lost as badly there in R2, if not worse.
Alucard's no Leon, either; he's closer to Tidus than anything, who
Pikachu beat twice last year. Pikachu only beat him twice because of a fanbase split. No way Pikachu beats Tidus without Vivi or two other RPG characters (one also being from Square) in the poll. --- "Men that are trapped by chains of 'maybe' can never reach their dreams!" Explicit Content > me in the Guru |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:42:32 AM | message detail |
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i think Pikachu and Tidus would have just had a close match at best. Tidus wouldnt really blow out Pikachu or anything. --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2008 10:42:49 AM | message detail |
| Out of curiosity, who was splitting with Tidus in the first round? |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/20/2008 10:43:29 AM | message detail |
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Pikachu only beat him twice because of a fanbase split. No way
Pikachu beats Tidus without Vivi or two other RPG characters (one also
being from Square) in the poll. I'll give you R2, but you can't talk about Tidus being split in R1 by having another Square RPG character yet not mention Isaac is another Nintendo RPG character. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:45:10 AM | message detail |
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honestly Isaac would share at least just as much of a fanbase with Pikachu than he would with a PS2 star. sheesh. --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:45:24 AM | message detail |
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Guess what guys Pikachu is the most wellknown RPG character of all time.... OMG Massive SFF! --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:46:05 AM | message detail |
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If you use the "lol xstats" Duke is high end fodder based on his performance on Guybrush. If you use lol x-stats, Kefka and Vercetti are fodder too. In fact, Duke outperforms both in the x-stats. Duke - 20.87% Kefka - 19.07% Vercetti - 16.25% So again, explain to me how Duke's performance is unexpected? --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 10:46:09 AM | message detail |
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Eh, Isaac seems to be too far removed from the Nintendo guys that are
actually affected by company SFF. I think he's one of those "Nintendo
in name only" guys. Unfortunately, tomorrow's match won't give us much
of an insight into that, as Lucario himself is unknown. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:48:35 AM | message detail |
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but the next round slams Duke back down way below the fodder line. It's easy enough to explain: Duke's fanbase isn't very loyal to him. But they don't need to be - there are no equivalents to Sonic or Sub-Zero in this match. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:49:44 AM | message detail |
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You know, I think that both Guybrush and Isaac can surprise us tomorrow. Guybrush will surprise us by getting above 15% and Isaac will advance. Assasin's Creed was pretty much a game that came and went and Lucario is an unknown Pokémon (aka a PKMN not in Red/Blue or Silver/Gold) that just got in because of Brawl and not a lame Internet fad. Damn I shouldn't have picked Lucario > Altair tomorrow. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 10:52:12 AM | message detail |
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I think I was a very stupid man for changing my Marth > Duke pick. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| smitelf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:52:55 AM | message detail |
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I'm pretty sure that 90% of this board picked Lucario > Altair
tomorrow, so if we end up being wrong, we'll all be screwed together.
But I think there is a good reason for the pick to be as popular as it
is - Guybrush sucks, and Isaac's no powerhouse either. Altair doesn't
need much strength aside from looking cool to beat those two. This is
the only clear-cut match in this division, IMO. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 10:52:55 AM | message detail |
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Ike's main source is being challenged, his secondary source will be
decimated, and Pokemon's fanbase is likely going to be the most
hardcore of the three fanbases mentioned. I think you're overanalyzing this just a tad. Ike doesn't have to be from a more popular series to be a more popular character. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 10:53:11 AM | message detail |
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I love how all the cookie cutter choices are being wrecked. Of course, my bracket is mostly cookie, but better contest>my bracket. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| Malakuko | Posted 9/20/2008 10:53:25 AM | message detail |
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according to the guru contest, the highest amount of perfect brackets we could possibly have after this match is 1 that's pretty crazy after 3 damn matches --- http://img.imgcake.com//christ2.gif http://img.imgcake.com//dannynoriegaanimated.gif Mer We rockin' stilettos, ho! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:53:43 AM | message detail |
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i dont see why Isaac would beat Altair still. --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
| voltch | Posted 9/20/2008 10:54:49 AM | message detail |
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though Pika>Arthas is the concensus is it possible for that score to be reversed through brawl LFF? --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 10:55:32 AM | message detail |
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Anyone who counts Isaac out completely after just seeing Zidane beat
Shadow and Duke come sort of close to Marth needs to get a reality
check. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2008 10:55:39 AM | message detail |
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For the record, only 21 Gurus out of 212 had Marth > Duke, so people
won't be hurt TOO badly by this match alone. Just depends on what you
had going on with Marth, Duke, Kefka, and Niko after this. Only 21 Gurus tomorrow have someone other than Lucario and Altair advancing. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 10:56:06 AM | message detail |
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Isaac will advance. Assasin's Creed was pretty much a game that came and went But it was hyped and sold extremely well along the way. Most people don't realize this, but between the 360 and PS3 versions, Assassin's Creed has sold ~3.75 million in the US alone. That's more than Gears of War. Yes, the game wasn't received as well as most people were anticipating, but it was still one of 2007's bigger releases. Couple that with Altair's amazing picture (rivaled only by Zack's so far), and you have a guy that should at least get through Isaac pretty easily. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2008 10:56:14 AM | message detail |
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If Arthas surprises us, there's a good chance he beats Pikachu outright. Most of the SSB support is *not* going to Pika. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 10:56:17 AM | message detail |
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Yeah we spend 9 months a year to talk about these contest, 1 month to
predict a bracket, and only one of us is perfect after three matches
>_> --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 10:57:10 AM | message detail |
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By the way, we're down to one perfect Guru after three matches. I think that's a record or something. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:57:28 AM | message detail |
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Duke got the equivalent of 72.43% on Guybrush if they faced off one on
one. The 2004 X-Stats put Guybrush at 10.54 on BL, giving Duke a BL
ranking of 19.11. OK. That is higher than I thought he was, touche, but
still only roughly equal to where I'd put Kefka, and quite a bit weaker
then where I'd put a non-SFF'd Marth, who in retrospect was probably
not SFF'd last year. --- "The builders never understand how their creations truly feel."--Shadow the Hedgehog |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/20/2008 10:57:47 AM | message detail |
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Oh great now I look old too --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/20/2008 10:58:04 AM | message detail |
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Anyone who counts Isaac out completely after just seeing Zidane beat
Shadow and Duke come sort of close to Marth needs to get a reality
check. what reality check is that? what do any of those matches have to do with Isaac? --- *is Dranze* Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko - Bracket: Marth > Niko - Vote: Kefka (4/8) |
