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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 1:24:33 AM | message detail
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Niko's last hope.


~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 1:30:05 AM | message detail
Today Duke, tomorrow Guybrush!

VOTE FOR GUYBRUSH OR YOU FIGHT LIKE A COW!
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/20/2008 1:30:45 AM | message detail
time for Leonhart to re-make this topic IMO

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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 1:34:27 AM | message detail
XD yeah just thinking that. ^_~
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/20/2008 1:36:15 AM | message detail
was that the last time you tried to make one of these? =P

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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 1:38:05 AM | message detail
Yeah, I suffered a major CS&D confidence blow after that. Took me this long to try again. ^_~

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/20/2008 1:39:01 AM | message detail
well I mean that was really harsh. I still think that was pretty low of Leon to do that. tbqh it was your day, Sonic your favorite character overcoming the odds. it's like "let him make the topic ffs"

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 1:40:26 AM | message detail
I remember that. Twas two years ago from now.

Well, let's hurry and make this the official topic then!
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 1:41:51 AM | message detail
Yeah well now you know why I have such a low opinion of him. -_-
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 2:22:13 AM | message detail
Well, that's two updates now where Marth seems to be slowing Duke's gains.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 2:23:02 AM | message detail
What a strange 500 post..
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 2:23:54 AM | message detail
376 now, seems likely that Duke will take the lead at some point. Meanwhile Kefka pads his lead on Niko to over 800. Just hope he keeps it up. -_-

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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 2:28:24 AM | message detail
Kefka's deficit with respect to Marth hasn't really been increasing. Duke > Kefka today for the total nonsense result who's with me.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 2:29:11 AM | message detail
So much for Marth's recovery. He's got about two more hours until the weekend morning vote hits, right?
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/20/2008 2:29:42 AM | message detail
Duke>Marth to heal my bracket imo
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/20/2008 2:34:07 AM | message detail
If Duke averages a 20 vote cut per update he'll still need an hour and a half to take the lead...

The day vote will have to really suck for Marth, else Duke's doomed to second.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 2:34:17 AM | message detail
Duke could end up making this match boring. He's making the lead between him and Niko nearly unsurpassable and Marth is likely going to own him in a few hours.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/20/2008 2:35:31 AM | message detail
Well, today's match is definitely something. *sigh* Makes me wonder about what would have happened without Naked Kefka.

Why do my favourite characters always spite me...?

I swear, Isaac BETTER pull an upset tomorrow. Screw my bracket, I want him through.

As for the actual match, Duke has really been all over the place. He's now a near lock for second, if not a lock. But he's not consistent enough to take first and hold it. Marth has been typical lesser nintendo character fare. Kefka's been very consistent, and he's lucky that it's a weekend. But his pic stops him from getting through. I mean seriously, WTF?

But man, Niko is sucking it up here.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 2:37:45 AM | message detail

Lightning Strikes (#018)
Makes me wonder about what would have happened without Naked Kefka.



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Take your pick. You would think that with all the ports and remakes for FF6 that someone would draw a decent Kefka art.
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Djungelurban | Posted 9/20/2008 2:39:06 AM | message detail
If they only had released the Dissidia art for Kefka by now things would be different I'm sure...
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 2:45:06 AM | message detail
The one thing that surprised me is that no one tried this. It might have worked and it would be recognizable.

http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy6/Bosses/09%20-%20Kefka.gif
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 3:18:46 AM | message detail
Duke could end up making this match boring.

How can he make the match booring when he's pretty much the main reason its completely screwy right now?
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SupremeArticle | Posted 9/20/2008 3:22:23 AM | message detail
i picked marth in first duke in second
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Starion | Posted 9/20/2008 3:24:16 AM | message detail
I'm looking at the % per update graph at the poll updater site and those Duke spikes are ridiculous. Is this just an effect of the dead hour voting hours where the lower votes per update exaggerates the effect?
greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 3:24:34 AM | message detail
I just pretty much explained why, but I might as well explain further.

He's making a run at Marth, but we can be certain that Marth will own the day, so this is pretty meaningless.

Kefka ain't doing crap, and it's likely that Kefka takes fourth place during the day.

Niko could make a run at Duke during the day if the casual voters turn out for him, but the more distance Duke puts between Niko, the less likely Niko can take the lead.
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 3:28:58 AM | message detail
what the

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 3:30:19 AM | message detail
How would it have been any different if it was a High/Uber Carder or Fodderific Fodder?

Probably wouldve been Boring and predictable thoughout the whole thing.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 3:32:25 AM | message detail
Under a 100 votes now. Duke should have the lead about half an hour.

About time Marth stalls the guy.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 3:32:56 AM | message detail
Just like how Shadow would own the morning on Zidane, right? I got Marth > Duke and all that but considering how fast Marth is dropping right now I don't think he's a lock to win this poll.

The only boring thing about this match is that Duke almost got a +2000 lead on Niko, and Kefka was doomed from the beginning. So it's safe to say that Marth and Duke will advance, now it's just the order that is not certain.
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satai_delenn | Posted 9/20/2008 3:41:03 AM | message detail
Whoa. I come back from playing Crisis Core and Marth is about to lose his lead to Duke Nukem.

What in the world.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 3:42:21 AM | message detail
To think, last year, Duke beat pre-Brawl Ike by 1827 votes with Gordon and Guybrush in the poll and he's close to post-Brawl Marth right now with Kefka and Niko in the poll.

I know the day hasn't showed up yet, but... Ike or Marth? >_>
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 3:47:38 AM | message detail
23 votes left...
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 3:48:27 AM | message detail
Man, Duke Nukem.

who knew

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 3:52:34 AM | message detail
12 votes....

Duke takin' the lead next update?
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kfleong2000 | Posted 9/20/2008 3:53:17 AM | message detail
Is this on course to be the closest 4-way battle ever?
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 3:53:36 AM | message detail
Niko's 2000 down already, he's not having a run at anything.
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rob29 | Posted 9/20/2008 3:53:45 AM | message detail
4chan.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 3:54:48 AM | message detail
Marth > Ike, at least 2007 Ike >_>

Damn I just saw that I had Marth > Duke in the next round as well.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 3:57:13 AM | message detail
Duke with a 7 vote lead!
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/20/2008 3:57:14 AM | message detail
Let's see how much cushion Duke can make before the day cuts in Martha's favor...
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/20/2008 3:58:38 AM | message detail
Could this be a sign of what's to come? We know the Duke haven't got a game in 11 years, and with DNF floating around, I would imagine that most of his votes would be joke votes (and bracket votes).

oh wait what, Duke Nukem 3D for 360 is coming out in US in 4 days? what is that?
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 4:00:41 AM | message detail
There's Duke Nukem Trilogy hype floating around too. A lot of people were very impressed from the E3 video this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K00DCK1l98

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/20/2008 4:00:42 AM | message detail
Cmon people, did you really think Duke would still be fodder after they finally put out the Forever Teaser?
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 4:03:57 AM | message detail
Looks like he'll build a lead of ~200 before the day shows up.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 4:10:10 AM | message detail
He's almost at 100 already and showing signs of any slowdown, he'll be several hundred ahead at least before Marth has any say in things.
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Kratos_42 | Posted 9/20/2008 4:13:21 AM | message detail
Dammit, I had Link/Niko winning their freakin' division!
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 4:14:29 AM | message detail
Looks like I may have underestimated a little.

But there's a slowdown!

And doesn't the day vote being in an hour? It was around that time that Ness started pulling mid-upper twenties again.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 4:17:59 AM | message detail
Yep, Duke's definitely slowing down. Update went Niko > Marth > Kefka > Duke
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 4:18:09 AM | message detail
hmmm Niko won that update.
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jonthomson | Posted 9/20/2008 4:21:12 AM | message detail
omg dukefaqs
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