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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 1:27:51 AM | message detail
Tidus and DK are disasters waiting to happen, in their heavy desire to lose they might just be able to suck enough for Tails to get a say. And who knows where that Cube will land.

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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 1:31:43 AM | message detail
I think the safe prediction is Donkey > Tidus, and then have MM > Tidus the next round. That way everyone chokes.
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Djungelurban | Posted 9/20/2008 1:34:47 AM | message detail
Please, neither Tails or Cube will have a chance. As much as I would want Tails to go through (I mean, I'll be voting for him), he never delivers. And the cube, that's from Portal right? I know many of you love that game but to be honest in the general gaming population that game is rather fringe. And a joke character. And that's not a good combo... Neither will most likely hit 20%.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 1:36:59 AM | message detail
DK and Tidus succeeding is never a "safe" prediction. >_>
They both have ridiculous records of jobbing at every possible turn. Cube > Tails wouldn't shock me, I'm that edgey about putting faith in those two.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 1:37:34 AM | message detail
The Duke finally started to kickass and chew gum..
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2008 1:38:09 AM | message detail
Tails ain't doing anything.

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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 1:39:11 AM | message detail
Tails is too damn weak to even compete with DK and Teedus. The Cube kinda worries me though.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 1:39:34 AM | message detail
Woah hell, big update for Duke. o_0
Bad update for Kefka, looks like he's bringing on the suck already.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 1:41:20 AM | message detail
Even if I Zidane is 1000 times a better main character than Tidus, Tidus is easily more popular than Zidane, and even if Tails is 1000 times a better character than Shadow, Shadow is easily more popular than Tails.

In other words Tails is chanceless, but of course he got my vote even if I took Cube > Tidus.


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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 1:41:34 AM | message detail
Duke's been having those random spikes every like 5 or 6 updates.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/20/2008 1:42:44 AM | message detail
hey remember when we all thought tails was gonna job to Viewtiful Joe

how'd that turn out

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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 1:45:04 AM | message detail
Niko needs to not suck on the updates Duke does well on.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 1:45:31 AM | message detail
Having faith in Henshin a go go Baby over a character everyone has heard about was stupid from day 1, I never understood why the board thought that VJ was a lock.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 1:46:26 AM | message detail
I actually liked both Zidane and Tidus more than Cloud and Squall, I felt they had more character, better defined backstories than clones and orphanages and they actually had a sense of humour. Zidane especially though as I think he combined the entertainment of Tidus with the courage of Squall and Leadership of Cloud. He just seems like the most well rounded hero in FF and it's always confused me why he's never had the popularity here to back that up.

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Djungelurban | Posted 9/20/2008 1:47:07 AM | message detail
Shadow is easily more popular than Tails
I wouldn't be so sure though, atleast I think there are more people that really like Tails than there are people really liking Shadow. Tails has in a way a bigger hardcore fanbase.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 1:47:20 AM | message detail
Wow, everyone but Duke sucked on that update.
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/20/2008 1:48:05 AM | message detail
Duke makin that trend cut
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/20/2008 1:49:18 AM | message detail
Well my Lucario > Marth pick is pretty much shot right here. Duke's going to the division finals.... man I had faith in the Duke... should've had more.

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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 1:49:36 AM | message detail
Woah, Duke just cut 100 off Marth's lead in 15 minutes. o_0

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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 1:52:05 AM | message detail
Gotta hand it to Duke. He's making the most out of the dead hour, though it's inevitable that Marth takes off in a few hours.
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/20/2008 1:55:39 AM | message detail
I wonder if we'll see a lead switch in the coming hour or so? It'd make the match my favorite in a while if the entire thing stayed so neck and neck all day tomorrow. I have a feeling Marth is just gonna vacuum the entire day vote and stay above danger, though. The others will be more interesting.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 1:55:47 AM | message detail
Hey guys lets all make fun of Lopen for saying that having Duke over Kefka was stupid, and he had Duke > Gordon last year
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Djungelurban | Posted 9/20/2008 1:57:14 AM | message detail
Ehhhh... What's going on? Is this like the Europe vote in effect or something?
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 1:57:36 AM | message detail
This match makes NO SENSE. Why is Duke even in this match? And why is Kefka losing the night vote? (Well, actually, it's more the case that Duke is winning it and everyone else is going even at this point)
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 1:59:29 AM | message detail
I still say having Duke Nukem was a dumb pick. He's never done anything remotely impressive in these contests. I entirely blame bath towel Kefka for this.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 1:59:32 AM | message detail
I think Duke is SFFing Kefka some how. Maybe the night voters that normally support Kefka also like Duke. It might be an old-school thing.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 2:01:54 AM | message detail
I still say having Duke Nukem was a dumb pick. He's never done anything remotely impressive in these contests.

He won his 4-pack last year involving a brawl announced Ike and an Orange Box Gordon. >_>

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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 2:02:37 AM | message detail
wtf Duke just cut 50 on Marth and doubled the other 2 in that update. o_0

It's 10 so I guess this is Europe waking up.
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 2:02:39 AM | message detail
That's it, man. This match makes absolutely no sense and so Kefka's got the day vote, watch for it.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 2:03:37 AM | message detail
It would be the greatest thing ever if Kefka got the morning vote. Logic be damned.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 2:04:32 AM | message detail
Wasn't that match pre-Orange Box?

Think it might end up kinda similar to that Alucard/Liquid/Ness/Zidane fourpack? We all kept waiting for that day vote, but the weekend made it look less potent.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 2:04:47 AM | message detail
WTF does Europe have to do with anything? The only person that should be affected by that is Naked Guy, unless GTA and Brawl are really unpopular over there.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 2:05:06 AM | message detail
I'm not surprised that the Duke is doing great with the "Europe" vote. Over here it has always been: It's the freaking Duke!

And no Having Duke above Kefka was not dumb, Kefka has been in what 6 contests now and in everyone of them he have failed. (Barely winning over Pac-man, lossing big to Knuckles and Diablo, only were close to Vercetti thanks to a cheater, lossing to Marcus Fenix in two rounds, and might lose to Niko this year.)

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/20/2008 2:05:38 AM | message detail
*Duke's first match with Ike/Gordon for the first statement, this match for the second statement.
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 2:06:45 AM | message detail
Actually round 1 was pre Orange Box if I recall correctly.

And basically, if Duke holds in this match it's a case of a blind squirrel finding nuts sometimes, really. I just don't see the logic in picking Duke here, and I don't think I've seen a single coherent argument for it that didn't involve something dumb like saying GFNW was worth like 25% on BL like 2006 stats give you.

I'm still skeptical if he holds though with this absurd dead hours vote.
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 2:07:53 AM | message detail
And say what you will about Kefka sucking... Duke has historically sucked that much more. That's just fact, here.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 2:08:38 AM | message detail
I thought Duke only won because his opponents were scrubs (which they were). However, I don't think Duke loses his recognizably quite that easily. It may take some characters with actual strength before Duke starts collapsing like he did in Round 2 last year.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 2:09:37 AM | message detail
The Duke sucked? When? When did the Duke do a really bad match?
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 2:11:35 AM | message detail
Name an impressive Duke Nukem match before 2007. Aside from that Cloud match, there are none.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 2:11:40 AM | message detail
Duke's never been weak so I don't know where your undervaluing of him comes from. He pulled 20% off Cloud at his peak and showed last year that he eats up this format. Or if you don't want to believe Duke strength then just believe that Niko, Kefka and Marth suck ass which is also quite easy to accept.
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Djungelurban | Posted 9/20/2008 2:13:38 AM | message detail
WTF does Europe have to do with anything?
Well, Brawl is not never as popular in Europe as it is in the US. I mean, people like it, but I do think that Mario Kart might actually be a more significant boost for characters than Smash Bros. And Fire Emblem is like a non factor. Wouldn't be surprised if more people have play a Tales game than a Fire Emblem game in Europe.
Concerning Kefka, we didn't even get FF6 until the PS1 port and anything pre-VII has always been fairly fringe. Also, RPG's in general have never really been doing impressive numbers ever, the genre has a sizable chunk of genre fans but outside of that few really cares.
And when it comes to Niko, people in Europe are notoriously slow on the uptake. And GTA4 has only been out 6 months.

Duke however is a cult character. That's the one people remember from their childhood as THE badass character. As much as I hate him personally, Europe is prolly Duke's stronghold.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 2:14:19 AM | message detail
Name an impressive Duke Nukem match before 2007. Aside from that Cloud match, there are none

Then we're talking 5 and 6 years ago. >_>

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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2008 2:15:06 AM | message detail
Duke's record involves getting 65-35ed by midcarders and beating Iori Yagami. Not exactly anything impressive, I'm afraid. Granted, he's never choked away any close matches like Kefka, but he's never had any. Either he beats a scrub or gets his ass kicked.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 2:15:35 AM | message detail
Yeah for a time in the playstation era Duke and Lara were regarded as the figureheads of gaming here.

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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2008 2:18:20 AM | message detail

__Smurf__ (#494)
Yeah for a time in the playstation era Duke and Lara were regarded as the figureheads of gaming here.



That wasn't just a Europe thing. They just died a lot quicker here it seems.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 2:19:56 AM | message detail
Yeah but I think the difference is that the Duke Nukem series stopped, while Tomb Raider went on and on and on. I doubt that Lara Croft would be able to take a second in this poll.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 2:20:19 AM | message detail
They died quick here too but people are nostalgic.
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MichaelWClark | Posted 9/20/2008 2:20:54 AM | message detail
Niko, fails

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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/20/2008 2:21:08 AM | message detail
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/20/2008 2:21:19 AM | message detail
So I think we can end this topic with that us Europeans are still waiting for Duke Nukem Forever, while Americans have moved on with their lives.
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