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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 568

LeonhartFour | Posted 9/19/2008 6:55:01 PM | message detail
The "SquareFAQs is back!" edition!

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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Big Bob | Posted 9/19/2008 6:57:04 PM | message detail
More like FireEmblemFAQs.
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/19/2008 6:57:24 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOTp02U-d5o

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Shaggy_Heru | Posted 9/19/2008 7:18:06 PM | message detail
could one of you link me to that poll graph that NGamer posted which shows the trends?

dunno if you want to add another link to the first post, but that could be a cool link during the contest season.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/19/2008 7:18:47 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3245&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

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trannyscience | Posted 9/19/2008 7:19:12 PM | message detail
poll graph?

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3245&type=2&seconds=60&max=0 -- this?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/19/2008 7:19:35 PM | message detail
Not fast enough!

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Shaggy_Heru | Posted 9/19/2008 7:19:52 PM | message detail
that was it, thanks guys
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 8:13:48 PM | message detail
Round 1

Division 1- Match 3

Duke Nukem


Last year he beat Gordon Freeman, only to get killed by Gordon Freeman in the second round... Wait, what?

Kefka

Ah, good old Kefka. It wouldn't be a Kefka match without uncertainty, and all of the uncertainty resulting from the fact that he should have no trouble with these jobbers, but has proven himself as a jobber many times in the past.

Marth

Coming off a respectable showing last year, Marth is back and doesn't have a Nintendo icon holding him back this time around. Probably the safe bet to win this fourpack.

Niko Bellic

The star of the critically acclaimed Grand Theft Auto 4, will he be a Vercetti, or a CJ?

Analysis

There isn't much you can definitively say in this match, and it is quite the crapshoot. Just like last year's debated round 1 fourpack, we do have a clearly weaker character in Duke. He just completely fell apart against decent competition last year, and not only that, but Marth is unquestionably stronger than Ike, which rules Nukem out.

That leaves our other 3 characters in what should be a nice 3 horse race. Personally, I feel Marth's impressive debut last year, coupled with the fact that he is the sole Nintendo character here should mean he has little trouble here. That leaves Kefka and Niko.

Niko is a bit of a wildcard. I think he'll be much more impressive than CJ, based solely on the fact that the mobster type of gangster is much more appealing to FAQers than the "gangsta" type of gangster. He should be at least close to where Vercetti was in his prime, comfortably above Kefka.

Then again, Niko could very well fall flat on his ass here giving Kefka the bye. This is a match with very little solid evidence, so you have to go with gut feelings here, and my gut says Marth > Niko. Though I can definitely see Kefka taking the lead overnight and Niko needing to rely on a day vote to pull it off.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Marth 29%, Niko 27%, Kefka 25%, Duke 19%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Marth > Niko
TuRtLe's Vote: Kefka
Gaddswell | Posted 9/19/2008 8:17:45 PM | message detail
Too bad it's a weekend match. Would've been interesting to see the massive trend swing between Kefka and the others.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:51:32 PM | message detail
I can totally see Duke taking this. This match will either be good all day or over in 10 minutes.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 2/4 Today's Match: Link > Shadow
Kegger9 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:51:54 PM | message detail
almost time for the ****show match


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what ever i always new bruce wayne was batman anyway - ertyu
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/19/2008 8:53:45 PM | message detail
...You know who Zidane is reminding me of? Phoenix Wright.

Strong board vote (considering he was fighting brackets), great night, dies off during the day and never really recovers.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/19/2008 8:54:05 PM | message detail
http://media.putfile.com/Final-Fantasy-VI---Dancing-Mad-Once-Again-Remix

Ahem... there's NIKO BELLIC under my boots!
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2008 8:54:25 PM | message detail
alright marf if you blow this i swear i'll never play you again
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Moltar Status: augh
Link/Luke/Shadow/Zidane - Bracket: Link > Shadow - Vote: Shadow (2/4)
ZFS | Posted 9/19/2008 8:54:43 PM | message detail
come on SquareFAQs

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let's mosey
triviaman | Posted 9/19/2008 8:55:28 PM | message detail

Be glad you didn't make the Kefka pic!


geez, you're not kidding. c'mon Kefka - prove them wrong! use your nakedness to absorb the votes!


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Kegger9 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:55:50 PM | message detail
SquareFAQs ftw


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what ever i always new bruce wayne was batman anyway - ertyu
transience | Posted 9/19/2008 8:56:06 PM | message detail
expecting people to go nuts with Kefka in a few minutes until they realize he's going to choke it all away
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:56:15 PM | message detail
Let's go Niko!
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Character Battle 2008: Points 2/4 Today's Match: Link > Shadow
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/19/2008 8:56:36 PM | message detail
As much as I love Nintendo, they've been dominating for three years now. A little mix-up is good.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/19/2008 8:57:01 PM | message detail
I can't trust Duke to do anything other than take last place.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/19/2008 8:57:54 PM | message detail
Yeah, I hope Square dominates and then Link wins in the end. Fair's fair (Zack Fair, that is!).
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/19/2008 8:57:58 PM | message detail
Cmon Duke ;_;
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/19/2008 8:58:11 PM | message detail
I can't wait on this match.



Come on, Marth > Niko > Kefka > Duke (prediction)!
Come on, Duke > Kefka > Marth > Niko (favorites)!
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Kegger9 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:59:14 PM | message detail
Kefka > Duke

For the salvation of my bracket!!..... >_>

well on the bright side, if it happens ill probably be on the leaderboard


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what ever i always new bruce wayne was batman anyway - ertyu
RPGuy96 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:59:20 PM | message detail
Come on, Prince Marth and Kefka!
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Mustache...and green...
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 8:59:21 PM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld
Posted 9/19/2008 11:57:54 PM
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#023 Yeah, I hope Square dominates and then Link wins in the end. Fair's fair (Zack Fair, that is!).


And then you people have the nerve to make fun of MY lame puns
Gaddswell | Posted 9/19/2008 8:59:34 PM | message detail
I wanna see Kefka actually get a sprite and watch him beat Zack in round 3.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/19/2008 8:59:34 PM | message detail
Let's go
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:14 PM | message detail
Duke Nukem 22.73%

5
Kefka 40.91%

9
Marth 27.27%

6
Niko Bellic 9.09%

2
TOTAL VOTES 22

hmmmm
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Link/Luke/Shadow/Zidane - Bracket: Link > Shadow - Vote: Shadow (2/4)
XIII_rocks | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:21 PM | message detail
Duke Nukem 28.17% 20
Kefka 30.99% 22
Marth 23.94% 17
Niko Bellic 16.9% 12
TOTAL VOTES 71

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:23 PM | message detail
Duke Nukem 27.94%

19
Kefka 32.35%

22
Marth 25%

17
Niko Bellic 14.71%

10
TOTAL VOTES 68

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Tediz247 | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:23 PM | message detail
Duke Nukem 24%

6
Kefka 36%

9
Marth 28%

7
Niko Bellic 12%

3
TOTAL VOTES 25
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:29 PM | message detail
LEADS CHANGING OH GOD

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:33 PM | message detail
43 votes when I voted and Duke was in the lead.

Go Duke!
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:43 PM | message detail
Duke Nukem 28.57% 14
Kefka 32.65% 16
Marth 26.53% 13
Niko Bellic 12.24% 6
TOTAL VOTES 49
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transience | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:45 PM | message detail
Kefka loses woo

fear my 30 second prediction
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:55 PM | message detail
Cmon Marth > Niko > Kefka > Duke
or
Kefka > Marth > Duke > Niko
XIII_rocks | Posted 9/19/2008 9:00:56 PM | message detail
niko

wtf
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/19/2008 9:01:03 PM | message detail
Damn this is close.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 9/19/2008 9:01:19 PM | message detail
Marth wins!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/19/2008 9:01:26 PM | message detail
Marth wins. Second place heated!
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/19/2008 9:01:44 PM | message detail
There's Kefka with 2nd!
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Kegger9 | Posted 9/19/2008 9:01:54 PM | message detail
It's only downhill from here for Marth


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what ever i always new bruce wayne was batman anyway - ertyu
RPGuy96 | Posted 9/19/2008 9:01:56 PM | message detail
Aw yeah Marth.

Kefka better hope Niko's getting bracket votes!
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/19/2008 9:02:12 PM | message detail
I wouldn't call a winner yet. Its 1 minute in -.-
CP724 | Posted 9/19/2008 9:02:45 PM | message detail
Lol Niko
MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/19/2008 9:02:49 PM | message detail
Niko's below Duke now. Was that all bracket votes?!
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/19/2008 9:02:49 PM | message detail
kefka needs a very HUGE lead
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