GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 567
| M80TheWolf | Posted 9/19/2008 10:47:58 AM | message detail |
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yes it does. the whole point of the term SFF is to indicate when two
characters are of the same fanbase, and one is vastly preferred over
the other resulting in a skewed result from what their indirect
strengths would predict. LFF is when two characters in 4-ways both suffer from each other's presence, causing a split in the fanbase weakening both of their capabilities. stop being a dick by trying to not use these terms, or arguing about them every time they're brought up. They DO mean different things. Even if you want to be a jackass and argue it's just any shared fanbase, at least see the clarity it brings to discussions. You can simply through out the term SFF or LFF to differentiate between the two aforementioned situations, instead of having to spell it out every time. Stop. Being. A. Douche. --- can you dig it? |
| BDawg | Posted 9/19/2008 10:50:29 AM | message detail |
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Ah hehe glad I sat this one out bracket wise, at least it's fun to watch though. Epic fails around every corner. --- Should I start running now? |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/19/2008 10:53:55 AM | message detail |
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Zidane is really surprising me here! I honestly thought maybe CJayC
accidentally mixed up the options, and Zidane/Shadow's percentages were
flipped... I thought Zidane would do worse than that against Link
ALONE! Albert Wesker and Pyramid Head were in the same situation last
year (i.e. Wesker was expected to get 24% against Sora alone), so this
isn't an entirely new type of puzzle we're seeing. Are we seeing another FF(9) boost? Pic factor, perhaps? Zidane looks pretty awesome today, but definitely not in the past. Hey, if one Amano character (Kefka) can apparently improve by a better picture, maybe Zidane can, too? >_> --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/19/2008 10:59:40 AM | message detail |
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I thought Zidane would do worse than that against Link ALONE! *shrugs* He probably would. Damn this format and its ability to never make sense! I only enjoy ZackFAQs so far! --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/19/2008 11:00:12 AM | message detail |
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To predict round 2: Zack owned Wario pretty badly despite being part of
3-way RPG LFF (however much it's worth), and I'm not sure if Zidane is
stronger than Wario... though this poll may suggest otherwise. I'm
banking on this being a bit of a Zidane overperformance. As for the NEXT round... I'm quite certain Zack gets the win there, as well... however, if Kefka makes it out of Round 1 (which would basically mean an instant entry to Round 3), he could certainly be a threat to Zack in the sprite round, IMO. Come on, Kefka! --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| transience | Posted 9/19/2008 11:00:14 AM | message detail |
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Link fanboy bein' brought back to earth --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Majin Lou | Posted 9/19/2008 11:06:23 AM | message detail |
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Zidane is really surprising me here! I honestly thought maybe CJayC accidentally mixed up the options, and Zidane/Shadow's percentages were flipped... wut --- But the scars of memory never fade away. I can't stop loving you. Stop my tears. Stop my loving. Kill my memories. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 11:10:28 AM | message detail |
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I thought Zidane would do worse than that against Link ALONE! Albert
Wesker and Pyramid Head were in the same situation last year (i.e.
Wesker was expected to get 24% against Sora alone), so this isn't an
entirely new type of puzzle we're seeing. That's the thing though, and probably the best indicator that Shadow is getting SFF'd here. The only weird thing about this match is the extent that Shadow is getting killed by, and how well he looked against Mario in 2003 by comparison. Then again, we saw a very similar anomaly in Mega Man/Zero and then Mario/Zero. This is why I'm really starting to worry about Knuckles/Zelda. Zelda has held up great in all her SFF matches, while Knuckles got licked by Yoshi last year. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/19/2008 11:28:22 AM | message detail |
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CJayC closed his account to better cover his tracks the next time he inevitably cheats for Mario again. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/19/2008 11:29:05 AM | message detail |
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Oh my GOD EC that is an AWESOME account. --- Arsenal FC 3-0-1 Pts: 9 Pos: 3rd character battle vii ; final fantasy vii. do you believe |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/19/2008 11:29:24 AM | message detail |
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I took Zidane. Love it. --- How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? "You're...the ****!" - Otacon to Snake, MGS4 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/19/2008 11:58:41 AM | message detail |
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for the love of god zero there was nothing strange about Zero/MM and Mario/Zero. --- *is Dranze* Bracket: Link > Shadow | Vote: Zidane | Points: 2 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/19/2008 11:58:53 AM | message detail |
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er, turtle. it's working guys! --- *is Dranze* Bracket: Link > Shadow | Vote: Zidane | Points: 2 |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 9/19/2008 12:03:24 PM | message detail |
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I reiterate: Anyone with an ounce of common sense could've seen this coming. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 12:03:36 PM | message detail |
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The strange part about MM/Zero is that there was nothing strange about
it. He did exactly what he was supposed to do. But in that same
contest, Ganondorf did worse against Link than CATS. And how was Mario/Zero not strange either? Mario overperformed by a few % --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 9/19/2008 12:05:50 PM | message detail |
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I had Shadow advancing far too.Damn I take part in these contests all
these years,and I still forget that FF characters really rule... --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 9/19/2008 12:10:06 PM | message detail |
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This isn't about Zidane being strong. It's about Shadow sucking and being SFF'd. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| transience | Posted 9/19/2008 12:11:15 PM | message detail |
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Link's all like "gimme that percentage". --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 12:13:37 PM | message detail |
| Know what, Shadow losing here is probably better
for me in the long run, since so many people had him out of this
division, which covers my ass if for some ungodly reason Zack loses in
one of the next 2 rounds. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 12:23:28 PM | message detail |
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transience Posted 9/19/2008 12:26:03 PM message detail Link couldn't even take the morning vote, though. that's weird.. new trends? I seem to remember Zelda characters having bad weekday morning votes. Though I could be wrong --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/19/2008 12:39:14 PM | message detail |
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The strange part about MM/Zero is that there was nothing strange about it. extrapolate from Vercetti. that's all you need to do. it was a normal match. accept it. you cant compare two different fanbses. Ganondorf is a leech; Zero is not And how was Mario/Zero not strange either? Mario overperformed by a few % you have no evidence of this. extrapolating from Ryu Hayabusa puts him right around what he was supposed to get. --- *is Dranze* Bracket: Link > Shadow | Vote: Zidane | Points: 2 |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/19/2008 12:56:35 PM | message detail |
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From a non-statistical standpoint, it's easy to explain why Zero can do
well against Mega Man, but then suck it up against the Mario Bros.
Within the Mega Man X series, Zero is made to be more appealing than
Mega Man from the very beginning, so it's easy for that fanbase to like
Zero better. There is no such connection between Zero and Mario. Fans
of both could simply like Mario (and Luigi) better than Mega Man and Zero, while Mega Man fans are torn between Mega Man and Zero. I never really saw "well if Mega Man couldn't SFF Zero, why should Mario?" as a completely valid argument. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/19/2008 1:03:09 PM | message detail |
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Time | Shadow Zidane 01:00 | 45.04% | 54.96% 02:00 | 42.65% | 57.35% 03:00 | 41.57% | 58.43% 04:00 | 39.91% | 60.09% 05:00 | 40.57% | 59.43% 06:00 | 38.48% | 61.52% 07:00 | 43.20% | 56.80% 08:00 | 45.40% | 54.60% 09:00 | 43.44% | 56.56% 10:00 | 44.50% | 55.50% 11:00 | 44.25% | 55.75% 12:00 | 44.63% | 55.37% 13:00 | 43.55% | 56.45% 14:00 | 44.26% | 55.74% 15:00 | 45.43% | 54.57% 16:00 | 51.41% | 48.59% --- "I'm a coward... A coward who cannot even defy orders he knows he ought not follow ..."--Cecil Harvey, FFIV |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 9/19/2008 1:04:31 PM | message detail |
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Not happening. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/19/2008 1:13:32 PM | message detail |
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Oh wow, Shadow finally won an hour. I guess FFIX isn't after school
vote friendly. And Link's FINALLY starting to take off, but still not
doing it quite as strongly as I'd expected. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 9/19/2008 1:14:45 PM | message detail |
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Looks like Playtime is finally over. --- Smurf. The cream of Sonic Fanboyism you're like some devious internet fiend- Majin |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/19/2008 1:15:24 PM | message detail |
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He's the coolest --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/19/2008 1:18:09 PM | message detail |
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Zack vs. Zidane is going to be interesting. Obviously Zack has the advantage, but so did Shadow. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2008 1:18:35 PM | message detail |
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yeahhhh shadow coming back time to witness the true power of CHAOS CONTROL You comparing yourself to me? Ha! You're not even good enough toI'LLMAKEYOUEATTHOSEWORDS --- Moltar Status: augh Link/Luke/Shadow/Zidane - Bracket: Link > Shadow - Vote: Shadow (2/4) |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/19/2008 1:20:36 PM | message detail |
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Shadow's not making a comeback, he's simply stalling Zidane. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/19/2008 1:21:52 PM | message detail |
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Percentage cut =/= comeback. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| M80TheWolf | Posted 9/19/2008 1:22:41 PM | message detail |
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comeback = comeback --- hungry like the wolf |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/19/2008 1:24:36 PM | message detail |
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Zack vs. Zidane is interesting because it's FFVII minor character
(until Crisis Core, so I think this match will give us a decent idea
how much it did for him) vs. FFIX main character. Behold the dominance
of FFVII! ...Though I'm sorta split on which one I'll be voting for! They're the only two characters in this division I really like! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/19/2008 1:27:37 PM | message detail |
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http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1419/match3x07792278rc6.png http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7660/3rdmatchalternatedt7.png Mock pics for the next pic. Hope the Bacon chooses wisely. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/19/2008 1:29:05 PM | message detail |
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You know it's going to be the first one. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/19/2008 1:30:16 PM | message detail |
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...Though I'm sorta split on which one I'll be voting for! They're the only two characters in this division I really like! Zidane is your only choice. Think about Turtle. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| params7 | Posted 9/19/2008 1:31:05 PM | message detail |
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Disappointed with Shadow, I thought he would be 2nd. --- Dec 9, 01,Chris Jericho started a new era when he became the first superstar to unify the World Championship Titles of both WCW and WWF. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/19/2008 1:32:26 PM | message detail |
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But I do love me some Vitamin Zack! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Lopen | Posted 9/19/2008 1:40:45 PM | message detail |
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So this is Shadow's big day vote, huh? About 100 votes in an hour? --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 1:43:27 PM | message detail |
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MnMZero Posted 9/19/2008 3:56:35 PM message detail #272 From a non-statistical standpoint, it's easy to explain why Zero can do well against Mega Man, but then suck it up against the Mario Bros. Within the Mega Man X series, Zero is made to be more appealing than Mega Man from the very beginning, so it's easy for that fanbase to like Zero better. There is no such connection between Zero and Mario. Fans of both could simply like Mario (and Luigi) better than Mega Man and Zero, while Mega Man fans are torn between Mega Man and Zero. I never really saw "well if Mega Man couldn't SFF Zero, why should Mario?" as a completely valid argument. Exactly. But before the match actually happened, there was no way in hell Zero was going to do that well on MM. Why are we talking about MM/Zero again? And with these first 2 matches, it looks like our 2 horse race has become a 3 horse race tomorrow. Should be interesting to see where Niko/Kefka/Marth all land. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 1:49:53 PM | message detail |
| Also, seems as though Mega Man 9 is coming out next week on Wii/PS3 and the week after for 360. Mega Man > Snake massive upset? Damn the fact that Zero is there. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/19/2008 1:51:35 PM | message detail |
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PREDICTION TIME Lettuce: 1 No lettuce: 0 --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/19/2008 1:52:04 PM | message detail |
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Lettuce: 2 No lettuce: 0 --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/19/2008 2:00:27 PM | message detail |
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Exactly. But before the match actually happened, there was no way in hell Zero was going to do that well on MM. that doesnt mean it was an anomaly though. regardless of what happened in Mario/Zero, what he got on Ryu Hayabusa is telling. --- *is Dranze* Bracket: Link > Shadow | Vote: Zidane | Points: 2 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/19/2008 2:10:20 PM | message detail |
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Angel Kefka, come on, baby. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/19/2008 2:17:45 PM | message detail |
| Far be it from me to criticize someone who's got
60% in this poll, but this is one of the least impressive dominations
I've seen from Link in a long time. He's increased less than 2% since
10 minutes into the poll. No huge percentage chunks or anything like
that. Speaking of percentages: Cecil Harvey's Peak Percentage: 18.53% Cecil Harvey's Lowest Percentage: 16.34% Cecil Harvey's Final Percentage: 16.35% Differential: -2.18%, +0.01% Jade Curtiss's Peak Percentage: 8.08% Jade Curtiss's Lowest Percentage: 5.92% Jade Curtiss's Final Percentage: 5.92% Differential: -2.16%, +0% Wario's Peak Percentage: 37.20% Wario's Lowest Percentage: 32.29% Wario's Final Percentage: 33.09% Differential: -4.11%, +0.80% Zack Fair's Peak Percentage: 44.64% Zack Fair's Lowest Percentage: 37.68% Zack Fair's Final Percentage: 44.64% Differential: -0%, +6.96% --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| voltch | Posted 9/19/2008 2:19:26 PM | message detail |
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Link finally getting stale with the voters then? --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 9/19/2008 2:22:33 PM | message detail |
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More like infinitely better competition. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2008 2:23:30 PM | message detail |
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Funny how the one match I actually want Link to overperform in, he does this...average domination nonsense. And now that I've jump to the Niko side, I want to see some Lettuce tomorrow! --- Moltar Status: augh Link/Luke/Shadow/Zidane - Bracket: Link > Shadow - Vote: Shadow (2/4) |
| NotTerrafire | Posted 9/19/2008 2:24:49 PM | message detail |
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so anyone want to tell me where i should be sending my crew guest analysis? --- too lazy to go looking imo |
