GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 567
| ffmasterjose | Posted 9/19/2008 6:48:51 AM | message detail |
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I find it ironic if Nintendo did lose a bunch of steps this year -
given that Brawl came out in March. It's not outside the realm of
possibility to say that Zack is just a low mid-carder and Wario
crumbles to even the slightest hint of stronger competition. And of
course, with Link in the poll Shadow loses an incredible amount of
votes. Zidane may be weak - but he may only be getting out of this
match because he isn't Nintendo. Now for those arguments that say Link
SFFs everything...well, I can't explain that. And yeah, Shadow just falls from grace more and more every year. --- 2/4 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII NP: Link > Shadow the Hedgehog |
| Starion | Posted 9/19/2008 6:49:09 AM | message detail |
| Err, but isn't the Wii still consistently outselling the other two systems? That doesn't sound like disappointment to me. |
| Janus5000 | Posted 9/19/2008 6:50:11 AM | message detail |
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What in the... I was surprised enough to see that Zidane was beating
Shadow last night before I went to bed, but I was expecting him to have
tanked a bit since then, not gone up at everyone's expense (even if
he's falling now). o_o --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Stay a while and breathe me in. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/19/2008 6:52:41 AM | message detail |
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Err, but isn't the Wii still consistently outselling the other two systems? That doesn't sound like disappointment to me. There's a difference between the casual market and the GameFAQs market. Wii is still the dominant system here, but a lot of us simply don't care for it anymore. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/19/2008 7:06:13 AM | message detail |
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you're saying kefka would underperform against link... because of
zelda/terra? sorry bro, you're overthinking that one. it's a simple
case of "LOL female bracket". Just saying we've seen something similar to it before, female bracket or not. If people still debate over whether or not Link hurt Crono last year after Crono stood strong against him in 2k4, then bringing up Link hurting Kefka this year after Zelda unusually decimated Terra in 2k6 isn't out of the question. Zack's the favorite with or without that factor and I doubt Kefka makes it that far, but I still doubt it'll be a legit comparison of their positions on FF's totem pole should they face off. --- NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118 |
| Starion | Posted 9/19/2008 7:08:59 AM | message detail |
| True. The Wii's third party support is fairly weak just like the GC days. Except that this time, they are far more profitable and lead the hardware sales data. But Nintendo still has the DS though and that system is definitely far from a disappointment. |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 9/19/2008 7:14:54 AM | message detail |
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Wii is still the dominant system here, but a lot of us simply don't care for it anymore. This is so true imo. Got a Wii back in February, maybe I'm just buying the wrong type of software for it, but I haven't touched it since before July. I've been thinking about selling it and using the money from that to pick up a 360 --- 2/4 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII NP: Link > Shadow the Hedgehog |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 9/19/2008 7:21:51 AM | message detail |
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Good stall on Zidane there Shadow.....>_> --- 2/4 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII NP: Link > Shadow the Hedgehog |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 9/19/2008 7:27:08 AM | message detail |
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Hey, he did it again! Come on Shadow...now start cutting into his lead...do...eeet. --- 2/4 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII NP: Link > Shadow the Hedgehog |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/19/2008 7:51:36 AM | message detail |
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Why is Link still under 60%? Why is Zidane doing as well as he did in his fourpack with Alucard/Liquid/Ness except with Link here? Why is Shadow...letting me down? Why is Luke not below 5%?!? two matches in and this is already my least favorite contest ever darn you final fantasy and darn you floptendo --- Moltar Status: =D Link/Luke/Shadow/Zidane - Bracket: Link > Shadow - Vote: Shadow (2/4) |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/19/2008 7:55:22 AM | message detail |
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Link/Agent J/Bidoof/Edgeworth at 10:45 - 66739 Link/Shadow/Zidane/Luke at 10:45 - 60753 Link's total votes in LABE at 10:45 - 44406 Link's total votes in LSZL at 10:45 - 36175 Link's percentage in LABE at 10:45 - 66.54% Link's percentage in LSZL at 10:45 - 59.54% Hmmmm. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/19/2008 7:56:51 AM | message detail |
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Interestingly, Zidane has almost exactly as many votes right now as he
did at this time during Alucard/L Snake/Ness/Zidane. Close percentage
too. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| Tohoya | Posted 9/19/2008 7:56:54 AM | message detail |
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Zidane's getting like 24% on Link Zidane > Zack confirmed! --- "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --Ezekiel 23:20 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:00:48 AM | message detail |
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And Zidane's final vote total in Alucard/L Snake/Ness/Zidane is almost the same as it was at the end of Crono/Zidane. Doesn't look like Zidane actually boosted, he's simply one of the most consistent characters we've seen. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 9/19/2008 8:02:51 AM | message detail |
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Random sidenote - I don't see how having Link > Vincent in the Semis is cookie cutter >_> --- 2/4 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII I NP: Link > Shadow the Hedgehog |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:07:44 AM | message detail |
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Random sidenote - I don't see how having Link > Vincent in the Semis is cookie cutter >_> The match would probably be... Link Mario Samus Vincent (or Crono) Unless L-Block pulls some magic like he did last year it will be 1 Square vs 3 Nintendo. Some people don't think the fanbases are distinct enough for two Nintendo characters to squeeze by Vincent. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 2/4 Today's Match: Link > Shadow |
| The_Ocelot2 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:13:47 AM | message detail |
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Dammit I had Zack to the quarters for the longest time (it seemed
painfully obvious) and then for some stupid reason I switched to Shadow
at the last minute. --- Go Ducks Go! This fox is still one step ahead of the hounds |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:14:37 AM | message detail |
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I still have no faith in Kefka tomorrow. Old Square =/= New Square Of course, I've only gotten 2 points in each match so far, so meh. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Quest For a Second Championship: 2/4 Points. BRAWLFEAR? No, ZACKFAIR! |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:20:07 AM | message detail |
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I think Zack will beat Zidane. It's like Zidane gets 22k votes no
matter who he's against, and Zack shouldn't have much trouble with that
even with SFF. Zidane has a small but very dedicated fanbase, and I think having someone like Link taking over a huge portion of the vote is the only way he'd have ever passed a match. Unless Link somehow SFFs Zack, I think Zack's got this next round. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| vcharon | Posted 9/19/2008 8:24:16 AM | message detail |
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My faith in Kefka is slightly renewed. So long as he doesn't get
lettuced, I think he'll do fine. There's no way Zidane is stronger than
Kefka all of a sudden, and I can't picture any of Kefka's opponents
(minus Niko's untested strength) being greater than Shadow. --- :> |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/19/2008 8:34:35 AM | message detail |
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What's so unreasonable about Zidane being stronger than Kefka? We've
only seen Zidane in one standard match; it was against Crono, and he
held up better than Kefka did against the same opponent. Of course,
Zidane looked unimpressive last year, but so did the clown man. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| vcharon | Posted 9/19/2008 8:42:42 AM | message detail |
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Kefka looked good in this format last year. Losing slightly to Marcus
Fenix was not a bad thing. And he still managed to get within a few
points of Fenix/Ocelot despite Cloud obviously SFFing him to hell and
back. I think he was "better than usual", maybe not impressive, but not
bad. Zidane looked terrible. Even if Kefka is a little less strong than Zidane for some reason, he won't need that to advance against these guys. Maybe Zack and Zidane are fooling me, but FF looks like it has improved strength this year. --- :> |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/19/2008 8:46:48 AM | message detail |
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Hmm....I am very surprised to see Zidane doing so well here. Shadow's
not doing *that* bad or anything (This still puts him above the fodder
line. He definitely has a shot at getting there with the ASV), but
Zidane is doing really well. I guess that this does support the theory
that the 4th character in the match underperforms. I just didn't think
that Zidane was affected since no one in his match was that far away
from him or anything. This somewhat implies that he should have been
keeping up with Ness for that match. I honestly wonder if the FFVII themed banner is affecting popularities or anything. Kefka should give us a good hint tomorrow. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| TheCatWhoSwims | Posted 9/19/2008 8:48:38 AM | message detail |
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Above the fodder line is pretty crazy for a guy who went toe-to-toe with Mario I don't think any one character has declined this extremely --- B8BL Gambling Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=39885921 |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/19/2008 8:50:06 AM | message detail |
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I don't think any one character has declined this extremely Link/Ganondorf Both of Shadow's extremes have been cause by anamolies, so I don't see why Ganondorf's can't be used instead. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:51:25 AM | message detail |
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vcharon (#222) As I argued above, Zidane seems to be the most static character around. Got around 22k in 2005, around 22k in 2007, and right now he's close to the same amount of votes as he was at this time in 2007 and looks to end at around 22k votes again. The guy has a small but very devoted fanbase. I don't think there's a FF boost. Zidane seems the same but benefiting from having a guy like Link taking up most of the vote instead of three equal characters duking it out rather evenly. Zack has Crisis Core to make him a known entity, but that only really helps Zack and maybe a couple other FF7 characters. Good performances by two FF characters, but they're easily explainable enough that I don't buy a general FF boost until I see more matches. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/19/2008 8:54:27 AM | message detail |
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Oh god, this is so damn awesome. Go Zidane go! --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore ~*ST*~ |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/19/2008 8:55:41 AM | message detail |
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Zidane in Link/Zidane/Shadow/Luke at 11:49 - 12823 Zidane in Alucard/L Snake/Ness/Zidane at 11:49 - 12970 Zidane's final vote total in ALNZ - 24234 Zidane's final vote total against Crono - 22636 --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/19/2008 8:57:53 AM | message detail |
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As I argued above, Zidane seems to be the most static character around. Got around 22k in 2005, around 22k in 2007, and right now he's close to the same amount of votes as he was at this time in 2007 and looks to end at around 22k votes again. The guy has a small but very devoted fanbase. I'm not sure I agree with this. I think that Zidane's performances all falling within the same range is coincidence. We've been talking about characters with static popularites like this for years, and with the exception of L-Block whose a joke character, nothing has really seemed to support this theory. CATS got around 10,000-15,000 votes in his first three matches, and then in Sp2005, he blew that open and got three times that much. I'm a little skeptical of non-joke characters getting specific votals no matter what, especially when compared across periods of differing vote totals. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| vcharon | Posted 9/19/2008 8:58:29 AM | message detail |
| I don't know if I can buy the theory that Link is
SFFing Shadow so much to cause him look like he's near the fodder line.
Like people keep saying, this is the same guy who got 45% on Mario. If
he was really Ganondorf, he'd had failed really badly in his Mario
match... but that wasn't the case. So all of a sudden the Sega/Nintendo fanbase is exactly the same? I just don't think so. Kefka will give us a good idea if FF has any added strength this year, but basing things off his performances seems... I don't know, wrong on so many levels. --- :> |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/19/2008 9:03:07 AM | message detail |
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two matches in and this is already my least favorite contest ever darn you final fantasy and darn you floptendo Two matches in and I'm already lovin' this contest, even though I wasn't at all excited about it before for the same reasons! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/19/2008 9:04:47 AM | message detail |
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Zidane in Link/Zidane/Shadow/Luke at 11:49 - 12823 Zidane in Alucard/L Snake/Ness/Zidane at 11:49 - 12970 A/L/N/Z was held on a weekend, meaning that if Zidane is on par with his performance there now, he should start doing better than it once the ASV roles in. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| KronicYouth | Posted 9/19/2008 9:05:18 AM | message detail |
| Not to mention that the votals have changed
dramatically over the years. Getting 22K back in the day is a hell of a
lot more impressive than it is today... or well would be if this
weren't 4-ways. Seems far more coincidental than anything to me. That's
not to say that Zidane's fanbase isn't very hardcore, and he's thusly
benefitting from the format. It's very reasonable, especially for the
love/hate game that FF9 seems to be (sux sux sux). Either way, I think
I thought higher of Zidane than most people so this result isn't that
crazy to me today. I thought he'd give Shadow more of a run for his
money than Zack would have anyway, granted that was also thinking Zack
would be weaker than he appears to be now. Does today's result give Wario a chance of advancing now? Personally don't think so, but y'know I'd like to get other peoples views on it. I'm hoping to god Zidane comes in 2nd next match though, it'd be classic to see when we spent a month arguing Shadow or Zack? But most importantly, Kefka needs to kick some ass and take some names tomorrow. --- can you dig it? |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/19/2008 9:08:56 AM | message detail |
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I don't think this does much (too foolish to say it won't do anything
in a format this wacky) for Zack's chances. Link will keep Wario under
10%, and while Zidane may prove a mild threat, I'll take cool looking,
relatively obscure FFVII guy over FFIX main character guy, especially
when FFVII guy can get 44% in any 4way poll. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| voltch | Posted 9/19/2008 9:12:44 AM | message detail |
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for a minute i thought Shadow not advancing screwed me over,til i
remembered i don't even have him placing in 2nd next round,but i expect
the perfects to take a beating again today. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| KronicYouth | Posted 9/19/2008 9:14:10 AM | message detail |
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Yeah... I'm having a tough time trying to figure out where I'd put
Zidane in yesterday's match had you replaced Zack with him. I feel like
he should be able to beat Wario given the quality of the characters in
the match, and what he's doing today, but I'm torn as to how high of a
% he could really nab in a 4-way. Who knows... anything at this point
is pretty clueless speculation imo. I'm pretty content with sitting
back and waiting for the match to go down instead of attempting to
analyze the hell out of it. --- can you dig it? |
| Midget_Fetish | Posted 9/19/2008 9:17:00 AM | message detail |
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I wouldn't be that surprised if we had <50 perfects after this
match, I'd be surprised if we have any perfects left after this
division is done with. --- The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know anything at all. |
| KronicYouth | Posted 9/19/2008 9:19:02 AM | message detail |
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After this division is when I think I'll really be able to start
getting into this contest. Going in I felt pretty good about everything
in my bracket outside this cluster****. I basically just went with what
felt right and said **** it, 'cause I honestly had no clue. If I get
Link > Kefka right I won't be too proud about it, I'll just be happy
that I was lucky enough to get it right. The rest of the divisions is
what I can take pride in. --- can you dig it? |
| transcience | Posted 9/19/2008 9:20:16 AM | message detail |
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hahaha Shadow you couldn't even take the morning vote uh, I don't see why people are claiming this means good things for Kefka. slow down there, guys. it's not like Cecil blew everyone away or anything, and he's more similar to Kefka than Zidane is. Kefka can certainly do well tomorrow but I don't think it has anything to do with this match. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| transcience | Posted 9/19/2008 9:21:29 AM | message detail |
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and as for Nintendo, we've only had Wario and Link, and Link's
currently putting up 60% on two midcarders (?). I mean, unless you
think Zidane is a joke and Shadow's fallen off the earth, at which
point it wouldn't be all "SQUARE IS BACK", so... --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| KronicYouth | Posted 9/19/2008 9:23:16 AM | message detail |
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stop being reasonable tranny take a ride on the good vibes train SQUAREFAQS --- can you dig it? |
| transience | Posted 9/19/2008 9:23:58 AM | message detail |
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choo choo --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| transience | Posted 9/19/2008 9:26:03 AM | message detail |
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Link couldn't even take the morning vote, though. that's weird.. new trends? --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/19/2008 9:26:32 AM | message detail |
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Shadow/Zidane Hourlies so far: Time | Shadow Zidane 01:00 | 45.04% | 54.96% 02:00 | 42.65% | 57.35% 03:00 | 41.57% | 58.43% 04:00 | 39.91% | 60.09% 05:00 | 40.57% | 59.43% 06:00 | 38.48% | 61.52% 07:00 | 43.20% | 56.80% 08:00 | 45.40% | 54.60% 09:00 | 43.44% | 56.56% 10:00 | 44.50% | 55.50% 11:00 | 44.25% | 55.75% 12:00 | 44.63% | 55.37% --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| KronicYouth | Posted 9/19/2008 9:26:46 AM | message detail |
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yes, the trend of SQUAREFAQS --- can you dig it? |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/19/2008 9:28:20 AM | message detail |
| So I guess, Shadow did take the Morning Vote, and
Zidane's not really doing much with the Mid-Day vote. Will be
interesting to see what happens with the ASV. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| Kegger9 | Posted 9/19/2008 9:29:04 AM | message detail |
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FF4 characters are just plain crappy, at least Kefka had a personality and is recognizable --- what ever i always new bruce wayne was batman anyway - ertyu |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/19/2008 9:56:43 AM | message detail |
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Cecil was getting SFF'd by Zack! That's why he didn't look so hot! SquareFAQs in full force! Does today's result give Wario a chance of advancing now? You see the guy with nearly 60% in today's poll? Yeah, Wario's got no shot with him in the same poll next round. Speaking of which, why is Link still below 60%? And why is Luke still above 6%? What is this world coming to? Link wasn't even dominant in the morning, and Wario wasn't that good all day yesterday. We'll have to wait and see what happens with the ASV. That'll tell us a lot. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 9/19/2008 10:18:06 AM | message detail |
| You know... Shadow just gained for the first time in the match, last update. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/19/2008 10:23:36 AM | message detail |
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They're the same phenomenon with different effects in four-ways depending on the relative strength of the characters. Actually no. In any 1v1 SFF match, votals are obviously lower due to less diversity in fanbases. Add more characters that have a different fanbase, and they capitalize on this phenomena. SFF is fanbase overlap. It doesn't have to imply a 90-10 beating. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
