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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 6:53:04 PM | message detail
With how easily Fenix beat Kefka, I would not be so quick to say Kefka one-on-one over Fenix is a sure thing.
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hochimnih157 | Posted 9/18/2008 7:04:41 PM | message detail
Nah, Kefka beats Fenix one-on-one and I'm one who has credibility on Marcus Fenix. Remember, I took Fenix over both Kefka and Ocelot last year when most people did not. Xbox characters actually are thrive in a format like this because they have loyal fanbases. On a site like this, Kefka is actually more casual than Marcus. Although, to be fair, that does seem to be changing. This is why I have Altair going far.


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UItimaterializer | Posted 9/18/2008 7:07:46 PM | message detail
I'd pick Fenix over Kefka without thinking twice. Gears of War 2 is going to be one of many headliners in an absolutely insane November. I won't be at all surprised if it sells 10 million copies; Wrath of the Lich King is about the only thing that should slow Gears 2 sales.
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hochimnih157 | Posted 9/18/2008 7:10:52 PM | message detail
After doing a bit of research, it seems that nobody has much faith in Altair. He has the potentiality to be on par-if not higher- than Kratos. Frankly, Assassin's Creed is a bigger game than God of War.
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UItimaterializer | Posted 9/18/2008 7:14:16 PM | message detail
I too think Altair will surprise people (I came within seconds of having him win both of his matches), but he isn't close to Kratos. Assassin's Creed has pathetic feedback in comparison to sales, and people don't look at him and go "Hey I know him, he's the Assassin's Creed guy" like with other characters of his ilk. But even if he's on par with Ryu Hayabusa or something, he should still win twice.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/18/2008 7:23:23 PM | message detail
Oh, he's definitely recognizable as "the Assassin's Creed" guy. It's just that not everyone who bought the game liked it all too much. He wouldn't have the same effect as someone like Marcus Fenix, who represents Gears of War, or Master Chief, who represents Halo, both really popular games.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/18/2008 7:25:47 PM | message detail
Even people who liked the game may have not liked Altair. From what I played, he's a flat douche.

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Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/18/2008 7:25:55 PM | message detail
Altair has the Hoodie Factor.

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hochimnih157 | Posted 9/18/2008 7:27:04 PM | message detail
Altair is not a "douche"

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paraboxx | Posted 9/18/2008 7:27:31 PM | message detail
people don't look at him and go "Hey I know him, he's the Assassin's Creed guy" like with other characters of his ilk.

Now, see, I wouldn't have thought that would happen with Fenix either. Of course, I've never played Gears of War, so that could naturally explain it. What am I missing about him?
MnMZero | Posted 9/18/2008 7:28:23 PM | message detail
He's a douche at the very beginning, but after that it doesn't matter since everyone looks down on him after that (at least as far as allies go), so they are even bigger douches to him. He makes up for it by the end of the game though.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/18/2008 7:35:55 PM | message detail
what's his personality like?
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/18/2008 7:45:31 PM | message detail
Whew, finally unwarned.

Reading back through the last couple CS&D's, hindsight is a glorious thing. Of course, it's kinda unfair for me to laugh at everyone who predicted Wario > Zack since I wasn't 100% sure about it, but that assumes that I mind being a hypocrite. Who needs credibility when you have cheap laughs? Glad I called it, though, because I knew Wario sucked and would suck it up. Wario's so horrible, he made me root for a FF7 character, and I'm a diehard Nintendo fanboy. Way to suck, Wario.

At least I'll be perfect for the next two matches before Match 3 inevitably screws me over because for some reason I put my faith in chokejob Kefka winning. All four of those characters have potential, so damn straight I'm kinda worried.

Here's hoping we'll get some real whiner matches soon.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/18/2008 8:01:08 PM | message detail
what's his personality like?

Brash and arrogant. It doesn't change much until near the end of the game.

*ASSASSIN'S CREED SPOILERS*

He's a top assassin who starts out brash, arrogant, and overconfident. He botches a mission at the beginning by thinking he is an invincible badass and almost gets his colleague killed. He gets punished and demoted by his master and has to re-earn his rank, so his master and colleagues (including the one he almost got killed) start treating him like a complete n00b, in an insulting way. Altair has to deal with them belittling him and giving him n00b assignments, so he has an attitude for pretty much the whole game.

Of course, since he's an assassin, it doesn't matter that he's brash and arrogant towards his victims, since that's what he's supposed to do. But he can come across as an impatient jerk when dealing with his master and colleagues. Near the end of the game, he actually fesses up and apologizes to the guy he almost got killed (he's missing an arm due to the incident) for being a jerk the whole time, and actually starts acting like a genuinely noble guy at the end.

But yeah, for 95% of the game, he's in jerk mode.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2008 8:04:54 PM | message detail
Division 1: Round 1 - Match 2 – Link vs. Luke von Fabre vs. Shadow the Hedgehog vs. Zidane Tribal

Moltar’s Analysis

Link
Game/Series Known From: The Legend of Zelda
2007 Results: 1st Place in Round 1 vs. Bidoof, Miles Edgeworth and Agent J
1st Place in Round 2 vs. Vincent, Bidoof and Zelda
1st Place in Round 3 vs. Vincent, Crono and Zero
1st Place in Round 4 vs. Sephiroth, Mario and Vincent
1st Place in Round 5 vs. Cloud, Samus and Sephiorth
2nd Place in Round 6 vs. L-Block, Cloud and Snake

Brawl Character #2, Had his victory stolen by a Tetris Piece

Luke
Game/Series Known From: Tales of the Abyss
2007 Results: N/A

Another Tales character, another epic loss

Shadow
Game/Series Known From: Sonic
2007 Results: 2nd Place in Round 1 vs. Auron, Pyramid Head and Chris Redfield
4th Place in Round 2 vs. Auron, Ryu and Bowser

He’s back and this time, it’s Shadow’s year.

Zidane
Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy IX
2007 Results: 4th Place in Round 1 vs. Liquid Snake, Alucard and Ness

Another Final Fantasy hero, that’s 3 in 2 matches!

Well, Link easily takes first place, but the real question is who takes second.

Luke is a Tales character, so that automatically means he has no chance of advancing. Then there’s Zidane, who we saw get wrecked by Crono in 2005, and then lost to Alucard, Liquid and Ness last year. Yeah, as you can already see, Zidane isn’t that strong, and this format doesn’t really help him.

Still, Shadow didn’t look good at all last year. In fact, Sonic team in general looked weaker than usual. This may be because while Sonic characters are well-known, they aren’t exactly favorites with hardcore fanbases. With Link here, that only makes things harder for Shadow since it isn’t crazy to think that the Nintendo fanbase would also support Sonic characters.

Zidane has a chance to take second if the Square fans get behind him, but I think he’s just too weak. Link will suck up a ton of votes, and Luke will get the Tales vote (from all 4 fans), so it’s up to Shadow and Zidane to split the rest. Will Shadow advance because of his midcard strength, or will Zidane’s more hardcore supporters get him through? I’m banking on Shadow and it’s completely definitely not out of bias nope no way sir not at all.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Link > Shadow

Moltar’s Prediction is: Link: 64% - Shadow: 17% - Zidane: 15% - Luke: 4%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

aw yeah how about that Zack domination

Normally, this would be a pretty boring match, but after Zack wrecked Wario yesterday this will be worth keeping an eye on, if only to see how well Shadow does. With Zack looking like he'll cruise his way out of the division -- and not necessarily on the back of his opponents' weaknesses either -- Shadow's got to put up some good numbers to get some confidence back. If he ends up going even with Zidane, or only able to get in the mid-teens he won't be lookin' so good.

I'm thinkin' he'll put up the numbers he's expected to, though, right around the 16 - 18% area. I don't see him going above and beyond his expectations here, but I don't think he needs to worry about Zidane pullin' off an upset either, who's got a decent shot at doing it. If Link sucks up enough percentage that it comes down to the hardcore fanbases, Zidane's is likely to be bigger than Shadow's. It'll be even worse if Link manages some minor SFF here, too, since there isn't going to be that big of a gap to begin with.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2008 8:05:10 PM | message detail
Still, losing to Zidane would be pretty bad, even for Shadow. He didn't look that hot last year, but he was still more impressive than Zidane, who was a good ways behind Alucard, Liquid, and Ness. You never know with Sonic characters, though. Rikku was less than point away from beating Knuckles with Vaan in the poll. They just don't do well in this format. You could kinda sorta maybe make an argument that LUKE FON FABRE could hurt Zidane a little bit with the RPG vote, but uh let's not.

damn you tales characters why do you get nominated come on luke get under 2%

(p.s. -- come on shadow underperformance make way for zack)

Prediction: Link - 64% ; Shadow - 16% ; Zidane - 14% ; Luke - 4%
Bracket: Link > Shadow
Vote: Zidane



Yoblazer’s Analysis

This may be the zaniest bracket ever, but even 4-way matches are much easier to analyze when you throw a juggernaut in the mix, and today, we have the crème de la crème of juggernauts. Link is back, Link is tattered, Link is pissed off, and Link is out for vengeance following only his second contest loss of all time. The Zelda protagonist and GameFAQs contest ace is going to maul his three helpless foes, the scrappiest of which will have to make his way into Round 2 by best nibbling on Link's table crumbs.

Over the past month, Luke fon Fabre has given me precious minutes of entertainment as I attempted to pronounce his name in all sorts of great ways. Unfortunately, I don't think this will translate well into a contest setting, so I can't see him being a threat. A shame, since I'll probably forget about the debonair Mr. fon Fabre as soon as we close the book on this match.

Link's other two opponents are a bit more evenly matched (read: bit), but one of them is still considered the huge favorite. I've heard some whispers of a Zidane Tribal upset, people theorizing that Zidane might sneak his girlie little self through because he's more resistant to Link's beastly SFF than Shadow the Hedgehog. While this may be true, I can't imagine minor SFF to change the outcome of this match when the intrinsic strength gap is so significant. Simply put, Shadow is much stronger than Zidane. The Sonic proxy may have had a poor 2007, but Zidane was manhandled against Alucard, Liquid Snake, and Ness. Shadow, for all his shortcomings, would have fared much better had the two been switched. Link may ding him up a bit more, but it shouldn't make a difference.

And the march to redemption begins, a trail of hedgehog intestines and broken girl-men left in its wake.

Link - 68%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 16%
Zidane Tribal - 12%
Luke fon Fabre - 4%



Lopen’s Analysis

This one seems obvious at a glance... and really, I'm not going to argue this time. Sure, Shadow looked like crap last year, but uhh... it's friggin Zidane. I love the guy, but he looks like crap every year. Zidane has a small chance to win with how crappy Shadow looked last year, admittedly... and some people say that Shadow might be SFFed by Link here. I personally don't buy it... I'd sooner buy Shadow being "badass SFFed" by Auron last year and tearing some heads off this year... what was I talking about?

And apparently Jade Curtiss comes back for another beating after being eliminated just one match prior. Gotta appreciate the guts on that kid-- oh.

Oh. That's Jade Curtiss mark 2, sent from the future... stronger, faster, and disgruntled due to being the only son of a noble family in Tales of the Abyss, or so the information on the bracket entry thing tells me. (disgruntledness added by me, because he's gonna be so when he sees his percent)

Yeap. Go Jade go.

Lopen's Prediction:
Link - 62.05%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 18.37%
Zidane - 14.13%
Luke - 5.45%
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/18/2008 8:05:12 PM | message detail
Currently, Zack Fair gets 57.06% on Wario, 72.99% on Cecil

Holy ****. That's like a Kirby-level performance on Cecil

why is a super minor character from FFVII anywhere near Kirby?
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2008 8:05:58 PM | message detail
Transience’s Analysis

Link. Shadow.

I'd like to say this is completely obvious, but the truth is, it isn't. Shadow looked absolutely terrible last year in this format, losing updates overnight to Pyramid Head. he got absolutely smashed by good competition, which I guess is through no fault of his own, but what happens when he faces Link?

on the other hand, we've got the perenially screwed Zidane, a guy who just feels left behind and never really manages to do anything. he came in a clear fourth place last year in that Liquid Snake/Alucard match, but didn't exactly do awful. one thing you can say about FF9 is that it has a core fanbase -- Zidane isn't going to crumble under the weight of Link like Shadow might. you can talk yourself into a Zidane pick pretty easily: Link's gonna be getting a good 60% of this vote, if not more. Zidane can probably manage 12-15%. what's not to like about rolling the dice on a huge upset?

as much as I'd like to pick my boy Zidane, I just can't. I look at Luke there and say that he's going to pull some votes from Zidane. I think about how Shadow went even with Tidus in 2004, and how FF10 is so much more popular than FF9 that it isn't funny. and I think about how unproven the idea of Link hurting Shadow more than Zidane is. Zidane could win this and really throw a wrench into the wonderfully ugly Division 1, but it's an upset and one that could potentially hurt you for four rounds if you're wrong. it's just too risky for me.

oh god furry match
tails and hedgehogs and weird ears
get me outta here

transience's prediction: Link - 61.47%, Shadow the Hedgehog - 19.32%, Zidane Tribal - 14.66%, Luke fon Fabre - 4.55%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Ouch, Crew season is only just underway and already we've made a mistake! Well, I think our readers had better get used to it- even assuming the joke characters don't rise up and sting us, this is an extremely tricky bracket that I think will be full of surprises right down to the wire.

Moltar isn't breathing down my neck tonight, so I'm going to deliver a true treat (and one that I didn't really get to do last night despite my promise): my full Oracle thought process! We begin with

Last Known Values
Link - 59.90% (2007)
Luke - Unknown
Shadow - 25.05% (2007)
Zidane - 15.71% (2007)

This is Luke's first rodeo, but since he's Tales and super niche and we've already seen Jade drop the ball with one of the worst showings in history, I'm going to just go ahead and assign him Jade's awful value from last year of 5.44. Now Link's value in '07 ended up being a guesstimate due to L-Block weirdness, but oh well, we know he's well over 50 and will be decimating this crowd regardless, so let's just leave it.

Shadow's value seems a touch high... but now that I look at it, he DID best Pyramid Head by over 10%, so I guess that's about right for him in R1. However he totally collapsed once the tougher competition arrived in R2, and Link's a one man tough competition group, so when you add in the Nintendo/Sonic Team crossover factor I don't see Shadow performing too far above the fodder line here. Zidane's 16 is based off that really disappointing performance he had against Alucard/Lake/Ness. I guess you can forgive part of that since he was against two other PSX characters, but honestly, I think that was a pretty good indication that the guy is high end fodder, in this or any other format. Still though I'll give him a slight boost because Square always brings its A game against big Nintendo.

So we take that all into consideration, adjust the values accordingly, throw it into the pot and after a few minutes of stirring we see...

Link - 61.39%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 19.05%
Zidane Tribal - 14.13%
Luke fon Fabre - 5.44%

Lookin' good!

Ngamer Says: Link > Shadow
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/18/2008 8:06:19 PM | message detail
Woah..missed lots of posts in my depression....

Hey! I took Nana solely because I know my bracket making skills suck, so I'd rather have a hilarious upset turn out right! >_>
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2008 8:06:31 PM | message detail
Guest’s Analysis - KamikazePotato

Now before I continue, let me say that Zidane has a 30% chance AT BEST to win this. It's a longshot that might pay off but probably won't.

With that said, I will now prove to you, irrevocably, irreversably, and irredeemably how Zidane is going to curbstomp Shadow and dance on his corpse.

For this kind of match, I find it helps to visualize the percentages. Link gets...62%. I would give him 60% based off of last year, and Brawl should put him over the edge.

Luke...let me just say that Jade : Kratos Aurion, Luke: Lloyd. I've played both the games and know both fanbases, and those are the exact parallels. Yeah. He gets 6% here and will be lucky if he doesn't get less.

That leaves 32% left for Shadow and Zidane to try and grab. Zidane would need to get 17% to Shadow's 15%; it seems unlikely, right? Oh how not right you are!

Let's take a look at Link. He's the undisputed King of SFF, and has the tendency to kick anyone even remotely related to him in the face. Zidane has absolutely no connection to Link, and is safe.

Shadow? He's not going to be so lucky. First of all, Sonic characters have always been sorta kinda Nintendo, and Shadow is more Nintendo than any Sonic character there is. Most of his popularity comes from Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, a Gamecube game.

No,none of his other games will matter much. If anything they're why Shadow is in a position to lose this; Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic 2006 anyone? Talk about backlash.

Anyway, Shadow is going to get SFFd. It won't be by a lot, but in a close match...

And by now you're asking, why won't Zidane crumple? Why is it a close match? He may not be SFFd, but Shadow is still stronger than him.

By the stats, yes, but I believe Zidane is stronger than the stats show, if only by a little. In 2005 he was stuck with Crono, and while the SFF there was minimal, there was still some.

Last year he was the odd man out in his match with two other already stronger PS1 characters; no bracket support, and was the weakest character, and last year showed how the 4th character in a match does worse than he should.

And to top it off, Zidane has a much more dedicated fanbase than Shadow. Small, but dedicated. Shadow is casual bait, and with Link in the poll...

One last thing: people may not be able to see Zidane build a good enough lead to weather the Sonic day vote. The thing is, he doesn't have to. With Link SFFing Shadow, his day vote will be hurt; he'll still win it, but there won't be any Sonic/Crono-esque comebacks in this match.

With all this put together...Zidane ekes out a win. Probably. Hopefully. Please. Anyone but Shadow.


KP's Bracket: Link>Zidane
KP's Pick: Link>Zidane
KP's Vote: Zidane

Link 62%
Luke fon Fobre: 5%
Shadow the Hedgehog: 15.8%
Zidane Tribal: 16.2%



Crew Consensus: Link > Shadow except for one brave soul who went with Zidane
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/18/2008 8:06:55 PM | message detail
*Note: Last time I used that logic, I took WoW fans rallying about 125k votes per match to help Warcraft win the Series Contest.

....'woops'
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/18/2008 8:11:41 PM | message detail
Round 1

Division 1- Match 2

Link


Link has easily the weakest division in the contest. I could see him breaking 60% in all of his matches until the quarterfinals.

Luke

lol fails characters

Shadow the Hedgehog

After a disappointing run last year, Shadow returns to hopefully regain some of his 2k3 magic. Fortunately he has no competition in this match.

Zidane

lol ff9

Analysis

A fairly boring match, Link is the strongest character in the bracket, and Luke is arguably the weakest. That leaves Shadow and Zidane. While Shadow is a far cry from 45% on Mario nowadays, he should still have no trouble with Zidane. 2 matches from last year make this perfectly clear:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2882
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2898

Sure Shadow only managed 14% against Auron/Bowser/Ryu, but those are 3 of the strongest non-Noble, non-Squincent characters. Zidane barely managed 19% against Liquid Snake, Ness and Alucard. This one seems like a no brainer to me, and barring an SFF beatdown at the hands of Link, Shadow should have no trouble whatsoever with this match.

TuRtLe's Prediction:Link 64%, Shadow 17%, Zidane 14%, Luke 5%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Link > Shadow
TuRtLe's Vote: Link
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/18/2008 8:12:46 PM | message detail
Anyone think Big Boss could be around 45% in this match?
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/18/2008 8:13:34 PM | message detail

Master Moltar (#216)
Heroic Mario’s Analysis
Prediction: Link - 64% ; Shadow - 16% ; Zidane - 14% ; Luke - 4%


Someone might want to double-check their math, unless you guys have always been doing this or whatever.
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Yesmar | Posted 9/18/2008 8:14:04 PM | message detail

why is a super minor character from FFVII anywhere near Kirby?


Because he looks like Cloud? That's the best that I've got. Keep in mind that he could be SFFing Cecil as well, but still, I was not expecting this performance.
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luke | Posted 9/18/2008 8:14:30 PM | message detail
I'm expecting Shadow to come out rocking with the bracket vote. Link will probably start slow but just keep going up like crazy all match.

Zidane's like old Square, as you'd expect: good overnight, bad everywhere else. Luke's going to do best with the early vote and just suffer the whole way, a la Phoenix Wright. let's hope for 3% or less from him.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/18/2008 8:15:48 PM | message detail
Anyone think Big Boss could be around 45% in this match?

I know I'd predict that kind of a percentage with Naked Snake lololol

(but seriously Kirby's going down)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/18/2008 8:16:03 PM | message detail
Yeah, initially Zidane will be getting rocked. He just has to hope it's more like how Wario was rocking Zack initially.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/18/2008 8:17:01 PM | message detail
As in like rocking a cradle?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/18/2008 8:17:22 PM | message detail
Pretty much.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/18/2008 8:17:41 PM | message detail
Luke's going to do best with the early vote and just suffer the whole way, a la Phoenix Wright. let's hope for 3% or less from him.

Under 3% is highly unlikely. I predicted 4.83% on Luke, which is about 1% lower than what Jade will finish with.
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 9/18/2008 8:18:15 PM | message detail
I won't be at all surprised if it sells 10 million copies

10 million copies is a bit of a stretch, Halo 3 didn't even hit that and it was the most anticipated Xbox game in history. The first Gears sold just over 5 million and I doubt the sequel will sell much more than that.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/18/2008 8:22:12 PM | message detail
Match II: Link vs. Luke fon Fabre vs. Shadow the Hedgehog vs. Zidane Tribal

Information

Name: Link
Game/Series From: The Legend of Zelda series
2007 Results: 1st in round 1, 1st in round 2, 1st in round 3, 1st in round 4, 1st in round 5, 2nd in round 6

For the second time in contest history Link is not the reigning champ. Outside his final match Link showed total domination and shows no signs of slowing down. Despite his loss to the block Link is the favourite to win this contest and will probably do so unless we see L-Block pick up steam or another joke character steps up to the plate.

Name: Luke fon Fabre
Game/Series From: Tales of the Abyss
2007 Results: Did not enter

For the second match in a row we see another character from the Tales series of the same game and if today is of any condition we will be seeing a similar result for Luke. Apparently Luke is the main character of his game, but Jade seems to be the fan favourite I guess time will only tell which one is weaker and the favourite to get last place.

Name: Shadow the Hedgehog
Game/Series From: Sonic series
2007 Results: 2nd in round 1, 4th in round 2

Shadow’s performance wasn’t very impressive last year though considering his competition it was hard for him to look good. Also the Sonic characters don’t seem to perform as well in a 4-way match. Will this spell out trouble for Shadow?

Name: Zidane Tribal
Game/Series From: Final Fantasy IX
2007 Results: 4th in round 1

Last year Zidane was a part of the closest four-way match though in reality at no time was he in contention of making it out of that match alive. Again Zidane is in a position to steal second and like last year he only has an outside chance to do it.

Analysis:

Luke was one of the few characters that I didn’t recognized in the bracket and as soon as I found out that he was in the same game as Jade I could only simply laugh. As we speak Jade is failing to break 6% in a match that doesn’t have much strength. With Link in this poll that only thing I’m interested in seeing is if Luke can fall below Agent J’s percent.

Speaking of Link he must have made a deal with SBAllen since he’s in the weakest division of the contest. When the favourite character that’s suppose to emerge with you in the division final is debated between a black-haired Cloud and Sonic you know something is wrong. Link should have no problem clearing the high 50’s or low 60’s.

Shadow is the favourite to take second in this match though after his performance last year there has been some question about his strength. Shadow isn’t at his 2003 strength, but even with his performance last year he shouldn’t have much of a problem clearing through this match. Another problem standing in his way is that Link could potentially SFF Shadow. I find that fairly unlikely to happen, the only thing that they share is console and even their games aren’t that much alike.

Like last year Zidane is the outside favourite to come in second in his first round match and while he didn’t do badly in the match he didn’t impress anybody. Nothing has happened to Zidane that makes him any more relevant than he was last year and really the only way I can see him winning is if Link was able to SFF Shadow letting Zidane squeeze by for the win.

This match had a lot less talk than the match before and after though I can see Zidane coming dangerously close to Shadow, especially at night time. While Zidane can get close to Shadow I don’t think he has the push he needs to get over the top and steal the win for him.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Link > Shadow

charmander6000’s Prediction: Link – 60.62%, Shadow – 19.25%, Zidane – 15.18% Luke – 4.95%

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Character Battle 2008: Points 0/0 Today's Match: Wario > Zack Fair
Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/18/2008 8:25:36 PM | message detail
I don't understand why you guys think Luke will be more fodder than Jade. Luke just looking cooler will make him be above Jade.

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Score: 2/2 Today's Pick: Link > Shadow the Hedgehog
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/18/2008 8:26:55 PM | message detail
Anyone think Big Boss could be around 45% in this match?

in the match with Kirby?

.... no.
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Bracket: Wario > Zack | Vote: Wario
luke | Posted 9/18/2008 8:27:40 PM | message detail
http://ui31.gamespot.com/2014/luke1721541spql_2.jpg

uhhh this isn't that cool
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/18/2008 8:28:57 PM | message detail
Luke's going to end up looking better than Jade in the stats for sures, although he may be somewhat weaker (totally negligible since they're both way too weak to ever advance a round)... Luke's going to get... 5ish percent probably. Agent J managed over 4% last year against Link... Luke should be able to at least match J.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/18/2008 8:30:39 PM | message detail
Why would WotLK affect GoW2 sales? Some big shooter like CoD might but even thats unlikely given its multi and not Infinity Ward
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/18/2008 8:31:24 PM | message detail
I'm actually pretty nervous about Zidane here. The arguments for him winning are pretty damn reasonable when you think about it... and now I'm stuck in a place where I have to root for Shadow to suck... but not to suck TOO much.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/18/2008 8:33:43 PM | message detail
ExTha, even I don't think Zidane is going to win. Not by a long shot. This isn't a Zack/Wario affair, this is a few people banking on a slim chance.

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luke | Posted 9/18/2008 8:52:06 PM | message detail
hrm. let's go with Wario getting... 75% of the brackets, and Zack 55%. (combined, who knows what they'll do with the order)
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/18/2008 8:53:39 PM | message detail
Oh, I'm just about ready to watch Link beat their ass
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/18/2008 8:54:17 PM | message detail
Wario's bound to be the favorite for first place. I'll be pretty amazed if he wasn't!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/18/2008 8:58:50 PM | message detail
Guys, please vote for one of the three hapless losers. I've dreamed of getting the first Link vote for six years now.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/18/2008 9:00:15 PM | message detail
Link 66.67%

4
Luke fon Fabre 0%

0
Shadow the Hedgehog 0%

0
Zidane Tribal 33.33%

2
TOTAL VOTES 6
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/18/2008 9:00:19 PM | message detail
Link 53.33%

8
Luke fon Fabre 6.67%

1
Shadow the Hedgehog 6.67%

1
Zidane Tribal 33.33%

5
TOTAL VOTES 15

blah!
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luke | Posted 9/18/2008 9:00:23 PM | message detail
haha aw yeah
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/18/2008 9:00:28 PM | message detail
Link 41.67%

5
Luke fon Fabre 8.33%

1
Shadow the Hedgehog 8.33%

1
Zidane Tribal 41.67%

5
TOTAL VOTES 12

ZIDANE BEATING LINK CONFIRMED
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Tai | Posted 9/18/2008 9:00:33 PM | message detail
I get 11th vote. D:
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greatone10 | Posted 9/18/2008 9:00:36 PM | message detail
lol shadow so far
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