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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/18/2008 3:59:52 PM | message detail
how the hell was there not a Zack account until 2006?

It was probably created years before then, but ended up purging from GameFAQs. The account is most likely created through the same exploit used to make space accounts (after you couldn't make them normally).
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2008 4:20:19 PM | message detail
Zack went up to 44%?! poor Wario couldn't even win the day vote decisively

I'm not going to lie and say I'm not impressed but...

what the hell zack fair darn you ff7faqs
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Cecil/Jade/Wario/Zack - Bracket: Wario > Zack - Vote: Wario (0/0)
ffmasterjose | Posted 9/18/2008 4:23:15 PM | message detail
Wario not only didn't take the day vote decisively, he let Zack run away with it :(

Thanks a lot BRAWLFEAR >_<

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0/0 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Wario > Zack Fair
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 4:24:29 PM | message detail
I told you. Pokefear is more of a factor than Brawlfear.
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Big Bob | Posted 9/18/2008 4:25:47 PM | message detail
Pokefear + Brawlfear > FFVIIfear
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 4:26:01 PM | message detail
Also, looks like Zack is your average FFVII character as far as trends go. Slow start, good night, strong morning and day vote.
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Zack | Posted 9/18/2008 4:26:44 PM | message detail
what the hell zack fair darn you ff7faqs

watch out shadow

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BesaidGuy | Posted 9/18/2008 4:28:05 PM | message detail
Well now that this match is over, time to panic.

I severely underestimated Zack. I picked him over Shadow but was never really confident about it.

Any chance he makes it to the quarters?
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luke | Posted 9/18/2008 4:28:13 PM | message detail
yeah, he's real.

makes me wonder what the hell is up with Tifa. maybe she will be okay against Sephiroth.
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 9/18/2008 4:28:21 PM | message detail
more like watch out Link

Cloud>Link>Snake>Mario

believe that
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Zack | Posted 9/18/2008 4:29:05 PM | message detail
I'd say his chances of reaching the quarterfinals look great right now. Hard to argue with the way he dominated this match. Gotta see how Shadow does tomorrow, though.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/18/2008 4:31:01 PM | message detail
makes me wonder what the hell is up with Tifa. maybe she will be okay against Sephiroth.

I will say the speculated Nana upset is sitting pretty at a 0% chance right now (as opposed to the 1% it had before) but I'm still not feeling a win over Kratos.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 9/18/2008 4:31:15 PM | message detail
luke | Posted 9/18/2008 7:28:13 PM | message detail
yeah, he's real.

makes me wonder what the hell is up with Tifa. maybe she will be okay against Sephiroth.


Darn it tranny don't say that. I already felt uneasy enough from switching her out for Kratos.

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0/0 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Wario > Zack Fair
Zack | Posted 9/18/2008 4:31:42 PM | message detail
but I'm still not feeling a win over Kratos.

we will make a believer out of you yet

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2008 4:32:23 PM | message detail
watch out shadow

I'm already thinking up ways to spin Shadow's performance tomorrow into something positive against Zack, no matter how good or bad it is.

molty's gonna be in full-on damage control mode tomorrow woo woo
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Cecil/Jade/Wario/Zack - Bracket: Wario > Zack - Vote: Wario (0/0)
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/18/2008 4:32:26 PM | message detail
that's not Mr UnFair in Tifa's position so don't get too cocky
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ffmasterjose | Posted 9/18/2008 4:32:55 PM | message detail
>_>

People aren't *seriously* taking Nana to upset Tifa are they? I thought that was a big group joke intended to fool some of the contest noobs and screw their brackets up :P

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0/0 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Wario > Zack Fair
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/18/2008 4:36:29 PM | message detail
I saw like seven Guru brackets taking her including one whose bracketmaking skills I typically respect (not going to single them out to save them from the awful awful embarrassment of taking Nana though!).
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/18/2008 4:38:45 PM | message detail
The only chance of Zack not making it out of the divison is if Lucario somehow holds up against Link.
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Big Bob | Posted 9/18/2008 4:39:50 PM | message detail
Or Niko Bellic.
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 4:42:26 PM | message detail
All right! Zack finally got a 50% update!
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 9/18/2008 4:42:52 PM | message detail
KH, was it one of these poor poor people?

Iubaris
War
ChichiriMuyo
junglebob
Fett
RamblingBiclops
spiegel
Lightning Strikes
BZer0
Lady Ashe
Vengeful_KBM
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BesaidGuy | Posted 9/18/2008 4:42:59 PM | message detail
I picked Lucario and ran with it and I don't know why.

I know he's no Pikachu but I just had a gut feeling about him
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 4:44:28 PM | message detail
Leonhart Analysis Time!

Division 1, Match 2

Link

…Do we really need analysis on this guy here? For only the second time in six years, Link is NOT the defending champion! He got his revenge last time, but will he get it this time? Bacon must really like Link because he gave him a division where he could feasibly score 60% in every match, and he should never get below 50% in any of his three matches. Link is going to win this match, and look good doing it. No doubt about it.

Luke fon Fabre

What’s this? Back-to-back matches involving Tales characters from a game that’s not Symphonia? That can’t be good! I have no idea if Luke is stronger than Jade (and I don’t really care), but it’s not like it matters. We’re looking at less than 10% and 10,000 votes here…again. He’s going to finish last. No doubt about it.

Shadow the Hedgehog

The black-haired Sonic (or is Sonic a blue-haired Shadow? DUN DUN DUN! This sounds familiar somehow…) makes his return after a disappointing showing last year. Auron gave him a good lickin’ in the first round, and Shadow actually lost multiple updates to Pyramid Head. Still, it’s not like he was in any danger of losing. He did look bad in the second round, but he was facing three high near-elite characters. For what it’s worth, Shadow got closer to Bowser than Bowser got to Auron. Still, he’s got a favorable path to get out of division 1. It’s his to lose, honestly, but Sonic Team has proven in the past that, when they can blow a match, they usually do. Shadow should get second here, but don’t take it for granted.

Zidane Tribal

A main character from a Playstation Final Fantasy facing a Tales character and Shadow? Surely he’ll advance to the second round! Not so fast, my friend! </Lee Corso> For some reason, Zidane is surprisingly weak, despite starring in one of the more recent Final Fantasy games. I’d love to pick him to upset Shadow here, but I can’t see it. Shadow went toe-to-toe with Tidus, a more popular Final Fantasy lead, and Zidane lost too badly in his match last year for me to have any confidence in him. Put Shadow in Zidane’s spot last year, and he probably wins the match. People might disagree with me on that one, but that’s how I see it. At the very least, Zidane will actually beat someone this year!

Same Old Happenings
Cloud’s Adversary Humiliates
Three Others Altogether

Link – 62.46%
Luke fon Fabre – 7.54%
Shadow the Hedgehog – 16.38%
Zidane Tribal – 13.62%
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/18/2008 4:55:49 PM | message detail
You give Shadow too little credit and Luke too much, I think.

Anyway, this match is making me seriously regret my choice of Kefka advancing to round 4. Unless he manages to do his rSFF thing he showed potential for against Cloud(He came much closer to Fenix with Cloud than without) and Link badly hurts his TSF votes(oh come on. You know a good 10% of his 43% if not more comes from the sword.) I doubt I'll be right.

The odd thing about Zack is that barring a few abberations here and there, he's eating up casual votes. Plus, his votes have pretty much no pattern to them.

Seems like TSF may be a serious factor after all, especially since the only other option a casual would likely know is Wario. Pretty much the most hated Nintendo character in contest history barring Daisy. Or maybe including her...
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 4:58:34 PM | message detail
(He came much closer to Fenix with Cloud than without)

No, he didn't, actually. Don't let the raw percentage numbers fool you. Kefka did slightly worse if you were to take their opponents out of each match and add their numbers up as a one-on-one duel.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 4:59:44 PM | message detail
Also, those were my predictions for the Oracle, made before this match. I'm just too stubborn (and stupid, probably) to change them.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/18/2008 5:05:40 PM | message detail
When are the analysis...es going to be posted? I want to see if anyone else picked Zidane.

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ZFS | Posted 9/18/2008 5:07:44 PM | message detail
Link badly hurts his TSF votes(oh come on. You know a good 10% of his 43% if not more comes from the sword.)

What

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/18/2008 5:21:57 PM | message detail
TSF more like TAF (the apathy factor) i mean who wants to vote for wario or those two other nobodies anyway
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Cecil/Jade/Wario/Zack - Bracket: Wario > Zack - Vote: Wario (0/0)
Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/18/2008 5:25:47 PM | message detail
Doing the calculations, Kefka still only suffered as much as Fenix did, almost exactly. This allows for some rSFF potential. Unless of course Zelos was seriously holding Kefka back in round one, which is possible, but even if it was, it shows that Cloud didn't exactly crush him SFF-wise nonetheless. Kefka seems fairly immune.

Also, what's truly remarkable about this match is just how badly Jade's doing. He might actually be weaker than Tanner. If we take a leap and assume that Zack's about equal to Marcus Fenix(a fair comparison) and then take the fact that Nook would beat Cecil and Kefka is far above Wario into account... Compare Jade to Zelos. Either Zelos looks a lot better even if in comparison alone, or Jade is really that weak, even when compared to somebody from his own series. Of course the plus side here for me is that suddenly Zelos seems not THAT weak anymore(+5 happiness for me).
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luke | Posted 9/18/2008 5:27:21 PM | message detail
oh man he's doing it again
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 5:29:06 PM | message detail
then take the fact that Nook would beat Cecil and Kefka is far above Wario

Double whoa there.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/18/2008 5:29:27 PM | message detail
Link – 62.46%
Luke fon Fabre – 7.54%
Shadow the Hedgehog – 16.38%
Zidane Tribal – 13.62%



That's way too high for Luke. Like's supposed to be less popular than Jade... so no way does he get more against Link(and two other dudes) than Jade got against Zack (and two other dudes)

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ZFS | Posted 9/18/2008 5:29:30 PM | message detail
How did Zelos get in here

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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 5:30:16 PM | message detail
Again, too stubborn to change. Link probably gobbles up whatever I gave excessively to Luke.
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BesaidGuy | Posted 9/18/2008 5:30:37 PM | message detail
oh man

i was just kidding with all the Zack hype. I knew he would be good but I just thought it was funny how serious everyone took it.

I admit it now that I NEVER thought he would dominate like this
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MnMZero | Posted 9/18/2008 5:32:51 PM | message detail
Yeah. I'd agree there. KHF can get outta here -- it's Yuffie. Can't see her being strong than some of the other playable cast of FFVII. Not stronger than Red XIII or Cid.

Actually, I think KH and Advent Children did wonders for making Yuffie likable. All she really did in FFVII was steal your materia after all. In KH, KH2, and Advent Children, her sass was able to show through without her being annoying. Especially KH2 and Advent Children... she became much more spunky ninja and less annoying materia-stealing brat.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 5:35:34 PM | message detail
Yuffie did become more likable, I'll give you that.

Just not likable enough to beat Red XIII.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/18/2008 5:40:20 PM | message detail
I am not.

This time I actually have a basis.

Oh yeah, that Jade paragraph was supposed to culminate in something useful(why Luke will get a mere 4.5-5% tomorrow if he's lucky and gets pic advantage) but it's 1:40AM and I got sidetracked. -_- And just for the record, Kefka would own Wario so hard. I shouldn't have to argue that one.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/18/2008 6:05:34 PM | message detail
Thunderous Zen (9:04:27 PM): mass effect movie confirmed
Thunderous Zen (9:04:28 PM): sigh
topspinfrenzy (9:04:36 PM): mass effect?
Thunderous Zen (9:04:41 PM): ............

Shepard = Tanner confirmed
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 6:20:45 PM | message detail
When has Kefka ever owned ANYONE outside of the Villains Contest?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/18/2008 6:21:32 PM | message detail
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#181 Doing the calculations, Kefka still only suffered as much as Fenix did, almost exactly. This allows for some rSFF potential. Unless of course Zelos was seriously holding Kefka back in round one, which is possible, but even if it was, it shows that Cloud didn't exactly crush him SFF-wise nonetheless. Kefka seems fairly immune.

Also, what's truly remarkable about this match is just how badly Jade's doing. He might actually be weaker than Tanner. If we take a leap and assume that Zack's about equal to Marcus Fenix(a fair comparison) and then take the fact that Nook would beat Cecil and Kefka is far above Wario into account... Compare Jade to Zelos. Either Zelos looks a lot better even if in comparison alone, or Jade is really that weak, even when compared to somebody from his own series. Of course the plus side here for me is that suddenly Zelos seems not THAT weak anymore(+5 happiness for me).


No, it just means what I've been saying for a while now, there is no new/old Square SFF. It's why Zidane was so weak last year. He wasn't SFF'd at all by Crono and is likely to give Captain Falcon a good fight at best. And in retrospect, probably dooms my Ryu to the finals pick and was the reason Zero did so poorly in that fourpack last year. Vinny and Crono didn't really hurt eachother.
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 6:23:11 PM | message detail
Also, the vote total pace seemed to pick up throughout the day. Lookin' at 130,000 votes or so.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/18/2008 6:37:35 PM | message detail
Looking at last year's matches, Zidane's worst time was the board vote, while Shadow's best time was the board vote.

Wait, what? I expected the opposite.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 6:38:57 PM | message detail
Cecil Harvey's Peak Percentage: 18.53% (at 2:20 in)
Cecil Harvey's Lowest Percentage: 16.41% (where he is now)

Looks like FFIV's day vote is down there in pitifulness as well.

Jade Curtiss's Peak Percentage: 8.08% (at the freeze)
Jade Curtiss's Lowest Percentage: 5.94% (where he/she is now)

Wario's Peak Percentage: 37.20% (10 minutes in)
Wario's Lowest Percentage: 32.29% (5:30 in)

Zack Fair's Peak Percentage: 44.31% (where he is now)
Zack Fair's Lowest Percentage: 37.68% (10 minutes in)

Note he was only below 40% for 40 minutes.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/18/2008 6:41:48 PM | message detail
Looks like Zack's about to pass the 11% threshold shortly.
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ZFS | Posted 9/18/2008 6:44:30 PM | message detail
Wario's Peak Percentage: 37.20% (10 minutes in)
Zack Fair's Lowest Percentage: 37.68% (10 minutes in)


Ha.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2008 6:45:13 PM | message detail
Currently, Zack Fair gets 57.06% on Wario, 72.99% on Cecil, and 88.16% on Jade Curtiss

Wario gets 67.03% on Cecil and 83.86% on Jade Curtiss

Cecil gets 74.43% on Jade Curtiss

Zack-Facks in the house!
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/18/2008 6:51:40 PM | message detail
Is it Kefka's fault he gets tough matches/Lettuce?

Pac-Man he beat WITH LETTUCE. Knuckles he did alright against also with Lettuce. Fenix he probably would have beaten one on one, even with Lettuce. And he royally owned Wesker, who showed last year that he's not that weak.
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