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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 565

ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 11:17:12 PM | message detail
woah creativename sighting, how ya doing bud

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Lopen | Posted 9/17/2008 11:18:02 PM | message detail
Also, ya definitely gotta wait for the day vote. I don't think the day hurts Zack much, but it certainly has the potential to.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 11:18:39 PM | message detail
I just don't think Wario is the kind of character the kiddies would go for.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/17/2008 11:19:14 PM | message detail
People are forgetting that Fox doubled Wario last contest, and Wario lost by...what, 3-4% to Meta-Knight. Even if Wario boosted a great deal from Brawl, being on par with Fox McCloud isn't going to put a dent in Shadow. >_>
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2008 11:19:33 PM | message detail
Oh, Aeris would be doing much better. Pretty certain of that -- it wouldn't have even been in question for the first fifteen minutes and she'd already be up 10% like an hour ago.
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Lopen | Posted 9/17/2008 11:20:21 PM | message detail
Aeris would be 50%ing these jokers, as sad as that is.
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ZFS | Posted 9/17/2008 11:20:31 PM | message detail
I still say Zack's below most of the playable cast. Maybe stronger than Cait Sith. I mean, this is impressive by my standards for Zack but he's not exactly blowing Wario out or anything.

Can't say anything for sure, but if Brawl's done anything for Wario this is even better for Zack. Wario's not even close here, after all -- we're closing in a 10% gap between the two. We won't know where Zack really is until next round, but hard to not give him some credit here. Just gotta keep it up come day time.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 11:20:55 PM | message detail
giving shadow a lot of undeserved credit imho

45 on mario looked impressive five years ago but what has he done for ya lately?

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 11:21:58 PM | message detail
oh wow cecil won an update
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Score: 0/0 Today's Pick: Zack Fair > Wario
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WalrusJump | Posted 9/17/2008 11:22:10 PM | message detail
match completely and utterly over, 2k vote lead is too much seeing as Zack will have some semblance of a day vote - wario will gain some of it back but it won't be near enough

well there goes my perfect bracket, at least my zero is intact
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Lopen | Posted 9/17/2008 11:22:54 PM | message detail
Oh, no doubt, I'm giving him some credit. I'll admit when I was wrong in calling a guy, Zack is definitely way higher than I thought he was, and Shadow vs Zack next round is definitely a tough call now.

That being said, I'd think all of the FF7 playables would hit around the high 20s minimum on Base Link (cept for again, maybe Cait Sith), so Zack is still probably lower than the lot of em.
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transience | Posted 9/17/2008 11:23:23 PM | message detail
what has Wario done ever?
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 11:25:19 PM | message detail
he's doing this right now.

honestly I think Zack would be doing the same thing to Shadow right here.

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2008 11:25:44 PM | message detail
Yeah, Zack is coming out of this looking pretty golden.
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ZFS | Posted 9/17/2008 11:25:45 PM | message detail
Before the contest I pegged him a little under Aeris. Not sure if he'll end up there, but if he's clearing 20% next round he wouldn't be far off. Might not be the best comparison, but Vincent got 27% there. See how Zack compares next round.

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Lopen | Posted 9/17/2008 11:26:06 PM | message detail
Well, actually, thinking about it... not so sure Shadow wouldn't be doing way better than this. He did double Wario a few years ago. Although Cecil being so far below Wario is a bit odd, that's what's making me think twice about this. Maybe he's getting SFFed by Zack, or maybe Wario is decently boosted from Brawl and Zack deserves some props, who could say.
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creativename | Posted 9/17/2008 11:31:25 PM | message detail
woah creativename sighting, how ya doing bud

Hi :)


On Wario and Brawl, I don't really see why he'd get a boost of any kind from Brawl. First off, it's Wario, one of the most unimpressive characters we've ever seen relative to his name recognition. Secondly, I wouldn't think that game gave the fanbase any more reason to like him; nor would it expand him to a new fanbase. Thirdly, the factor of it bringing in gamers for that fanbase looking for FAQs shouldn't apply, as that fanbase was always omnipresent here. And fourthly...it's Wario.

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2008 11:31:53 PM | message detail
I still can't see Zack being just a little under Aeris, but from what I'm seeing so far that might not be so unreasonable. Wario's still pretty trashy and we don't know how much Cecil is really hurting him, plus just a headshot of him will put him to the test next round alongside some other liked characters...

...but, I mean, maybe. Aeris isn't hot **** anymore, though I'm certain she destroys him head-to-head.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/17/2008 11:32:35 PM | message detail
Ha, Wario shows a sign of not failing for the first time in a while.
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creativename | Posted 9/17/2008 11:32:45 PM | message detail
Still, I do think Zack rightly deserves to be favored over Shadow for the moment.

And it'll be tough for Shadow to impress tomorrow since he's up against Link.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 11:38:51 PM | message detail
I took a quick look at the Oracle predictions and am a bit shocked with where most people are pegging Link. Most predictions I saw had him in the mid-50s (some in the 40s). I'm thinking he'll hit the mid-60s at the very least, and I may succumb to fanboyish urges and give him 70%. I really am expecting him to go to town tomorrow.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 11:39:16 PM | message detail
I gave link 59% iirc
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2008 11:40:08 PM | message detail
Link barely got 70% against Edgeworth, Agent J and Bidoof. Granted, Luke is probably worse than the lot of them, but still.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 11:40:44 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't understand all this Shadow faith. What has he done since that match with Mario to prove he's worth anything?
UItimaterializer | Posted 9/17/2008 11:40:58 PM | message detail
Thank GOD creativename is back in here. Now we just need NeoElfboy and solarshadow. I love you, dude. Come back and stay back, dammit.

Today is funny. I have Wario > Zack and pretty much hate Crisis Core, but I like Zack quite a lot as a character. He gets away from that brooding-badass-with-a-big-sword archetype, and is pretty much upbeat all game long. He falls in love with Aeris and really means it --- Aeris by the way had a VERY well-done character in CC. Hate her in FF7, but in CC she really redeems herself.

*Crisis Core spoilers*







And then there's the ending. Without spoiling too much, I love how human Zack is during that ending. This will sound lame, but he really reminded me of Solid Snake. He has powers in-game that none of us will ever have, but the human side of him makes us players relate to him in ways we've all seen and felt ourselves. The way he refused to let his memories go, especially those of Aeris, as he was dying really had me choked up. The way he stood up for and protected a wholly useless infantryman (Cloud) all game is equally touching, since a lot of us could always use a best friend/older brother like that.

It's a real pity the gameplay and overall story of Crisis Core is such ass, because the potential was there for it to be great. As-is, I'd give it a 3/10. But more to the point, I like Zack. Being a past contest champ makes watching these polls really easy, because I just root for my favorites and move on.







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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 11:41:42 PM | message detail
. Secondly, I wouldn't think that game gave the fanbase any more reason to like him

this is wrong. I didn't give a damn about Wario until Brawl and now he's one of my favorites. There's bound to be others like me, too. People get attached to characters they can play as in fighting games, especially smash bros

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ffmasterjose | Posted 9/17/2008 11:42:15 PM | message detail
Hoping Wario snatches up a monster day/kiddie vote, >_>

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 11:42:55 PM | message detail
60-65 is where I put him.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 11:43:00 PM | message detail
Aw yeah I'm diggin'the Zack love. Always liked him, even since the 5 minutes he was in FFVII.

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UItimaterializer | Posted 9/17/2008 11:44:37 PM | message detail
People get attached to characters they can play as in fighting games, especially smash bros

People vastly underestimate what fighting games can do. Smash is an obvious example, but Ryu is a better one. Barring that one weird match with Bowser, Ryu is the most consistent character we have in contests. L-Block is in some major trouble in the second round.
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creativename | Posted 9/17/2008 11:46:58 PM | message detail
Howdy Ulti!

Didn't read the spoilers because I haven't played Crisis Core yet, and I actually don't even remember Zack from FF7 from when I played that game 10 years ago :) However from what I know about him I like him quite a bit anyway, and am definitely inclined to root for him. Also I know he's very, very popular among the FF7 fanbase.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 11:47:35 PM | message detail
Well I'm going to bed, I wonder where Zak will be when I get up... 44% maybe? lol, well good night all
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UItimaterializer | Posted 9/17/2008 11:48:46 PM | message detail
If you've played FF7, I haven't spoiled anything you don't already know from FF7 itself. You can read that bit and not lose much, assuming you're planning on buying CC.
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Big Bob | Posted 9/17/2008 11:53:04 PM | message detail
Say Ulti, what matches would you say are "obvious"?

Probably should have asked before the contest started. Oh well.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 11:53:54 PM | message detail
and honestly there's no real reason to claim superiority over getting picks right in this contest. it's a crap-shoot, based for the most part on getting lucky. We're all probably getting burned by L-Block again.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/18/2008 12:30:54 AM | message detail
Jesus, I come back, a couple hours pass, and Wario's down to 32%? Hot damn
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/18/2008 12:32:15 AM | message detail
lol ZackFAQs
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UItimaterializer | Posted 9/18/2008 12:32:34 AM | message detail
Big Bob | Posted 9/18/2008 12:53:04 AM (#434)

Say Ulti, what matches would you say are "obvious"?

Probably should have asked before the contest started. Oh well.



Umm..... probably the really easy stuff, like Link winning next match. You never know in these fourways.
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/18/2008 3:30:38 AM | message detail
I'm not going to step in and spoil who will win the Niko/Duke/Kefka/Marth match

You mean you know your pick doesn't mean **** and it's a toss-up match...

err uh tell us who will win, great being from the future
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/18/2008 4:00:12 AM | message detail
Looks like it's-a-Wario time now
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/18/2008 4:20:53 AM | message detail
Hmm... Those last few updates were kind of fishy.
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TheCatWhoSwims | Posted 9/18/2008 4:42:35 AM | message detail
Being a past contest champ makes watching these polls really easy, because I just root for my favorites and move on.

*gag*

You really skilled your way past that one.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/18/2008 4:45:13 AM | message detail
so.

either Marth actually has a chance of not advancing or Zack is a character to be reckoned with.
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Xuxon | Posted 9/18/2008 4:55:14 AM | message detail
honestly, marth is strong enough to advance without brawl
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/18/2008 5:01:31 AM | message detail
Suddenly, I regret changing Kefka>Niko to Kefka>Marth.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/18/2008 5:09:12 AM | message detail
honestly i would never see Marth being so much higher than Wario (let alone being higher), but if Zack can do this much, it's definitely possibly Kefka and Niko can do more.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/18/2008 5:09:26 AM | message detail
well not more but at least beat someone that just has Smash.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/18/2008 5:26:22 AM | message detail
Wario is pathetic, though (yes, even compared to Marth I say). I'm not going to be seriously worried about Marth's chances until I see it with my own eyes.

(and if he flops it will only make my lol Nintendo hype train grow larger than ever)
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MnMZero | Posted 9/18/2008 5:45:09 AM | message detail
I'm not worried about Zack's total strength really. I'm just happy that he was able to get such a high percentage in a match. It means that a lot of people do in fact know who he is (as opposed to a select few people being really hardcore about him). Again, with Link grinding everyone's percentage to nubbins, Zack only needs a portion of today's voters to vote for him.

Looking at today's poll, it means that either Crisis Core is more popular than most people are giving it credit for, or FFVII fans are really hardcore (based on Zack's 5 mins of fame in that game).
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satai_delenn | Posted 9/18/2008 5:50:23 AM | message detail
If I'm seeing this correctly, there are currently 105 topics with the word "zack" in the title. o_O
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