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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 565

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 8:44:17 PM | message detail
Cloud is just A BLOND-HAIRED ZACK

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
Midget_Fetish | Posted 9/17/2008 8:46:31 PM | message detail
zack with 99.5% tonight
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2008 8:47:17 PM | message detail
Zack Fairplay

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/17/2008 9:06:10 PM | message detail
BOISE ZACK FOR THE WIN
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:06:41 PM | message detail
The updater's running, incidentally.
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Mustache...and green...
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:06:54 PM | message detail
zack zack zack zack
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 9:06:55 PM | message detail
Zack UNfair

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transience | Posted 9/17/2008 9:06:58 PM | message detail
Cecil Harvey 17.17% 310
Jade Curtiss 8.08% 146
Wario 36.49% 659
Zack Fair 38.26% 691
TOTAL VOTES 1806
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 9:07:27 PM | message detail
Even if Zack wraps things up in second place and in the low-30s, I'm very happy with him against Shadow right now. This ain't your granddad's Wario, and Zack is dealing with a big fanbase split.
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ZFS | Posted 9/17/2008 9:07:32 PM | message detail
Need to see this next update.

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let's mosey
greatone10 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:07:33 PM | message detail
Bobby Heenan: This is unfair to Zack Flair!
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Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 9:07:47 PM | message detail
whats the updater url? I forget
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Score: 0/0 Today's Pick: Zack Fair > Wario
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:07:49 PM | message detail
I still have faith Wario will win this in the end, but wow... this is pretty exciting stuff ;>_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2008 9:07:51 PM | message detail
If Zack can keep this up, I'm feeling mighty fine about taking him out of the division.

...he could stand to do a bit better for beating Mario and X in the round afterward though !!
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UItimaterializer | Posted 9/17/2008 9:07:54 PM | message detail
This looks like Squall/Luigi 2003 all over again, but I have Zero faith whatsoever of Zack getting out of round two.
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WishFulfillment | Posted 9/17/2008 9:08:04 PM | message detail
how is anyone trying to spin this as bad for Zack right now? He's doing better right now than the majority of the board expected him to do. he's looking really good to get out of the division with Link now. of course it's only 5 minutes into the poll, but spelling his doom is just stupid.

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2008 9:08:07 PM | message detail
I still think Wario's going to pull ahead, but...this is a solid start for Zachery.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/17/2008 9:08:32 PM | message detail
So instead you have faith in Shadow the Hedgehog after how horrible Sonic characters did in this format last year?
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Demyx is better than Axel.
Just like Explicit Content is better than me for winning the Guru contest.
Janus5000 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:08:42 PM | message detail
Zack was pulling some mad stuff at the end of that last update.

*holds breath*
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Stay a while and breathe me in.
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:09:02 PM | message detail
I have 93% faith in Zack getting out of round 2 based off this

I just have to hope Niko is more impressive for my third round pick.
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For your health.
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Lopen | Posted 9/17/2008 9:09:07 PM | message detail
Hmmm, guess I overestimated Cecil. Pretty pitiful showing. Doubt Zack keeps this up, but we'll see.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:09:07 PM | message detail
It's way too early to be saying anything about Zack's strength, but he's doing pretty damn well.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/17/2008 9:09:10 PM | message detail
Wario had better go into Power Hour mode soon!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/17/2008 9:09:16 PM | message detail
Spoilers: Wario is overperforming thanks to being the first match and the only Nintendo character >_>
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/17/2008 9:09:36 PM | message detail
I flipped flopped atleast 6 times over Zack/Wario today.

Come on, Zack!

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[Multiple Scorgasms]
Score: 0/0 Today's Pick: Zack Fair > Wario
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 9:09:39 PM | message detail
As much as I'm loving him doing exactly as expected, I'm a bit disappointed I called one wildcard right. I was hoping for some major upset here.
greatone10 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:09:42 PM | message detail
You know this is the stats topic when people are making Round 3 predictions off five minutes of the first match.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:13 PM | message detail
See what I mean?
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:13 PM | message detail
intense
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:14 PM | message detail
Who wins the after school vote?

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A surveillance camera!?
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:26 PM | message detail
wario comin back
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Moltar Status: =D
Cecil/Jade/Wario/Zack - Bracket: Wario > Zack - Vote: Wario (0/0)
Gaddswell | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:27 PM | message detail
Cecil Harvey 17.43% 573
Jade Curtiss 7.69% 253
Wario 37.2% 1223
Zack Fair 37.68% 1239
TOTAL VOTES 3288

Wario keepin' it close!
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:28 PM | message detail
That's not Wario overperforming... that's Wario performing. He'd be over/under performing if there was some other Nintendo character here affecting him. Without another Nintendo character this is just pure Wario.
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transience | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:36 PM | message detail
50/50!

let's do this

this basically comes down to finding out if Zack is a known quantity when the sun rises.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:46 PM | message detail
Oh god, Cecil. =(

Yay Wario though!

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RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:48 PM | message detail
Cecil Harvey 17.43%

573
Jade Curtiss 7.69%

253
Wario 37.2%

1223
Zack Fair 37.68%

1239
TOTAL VOTES 3288

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A surveillance camera!?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:48 PM | message detail
Wario: CONGRATULATIONS....I WANT MY REMATCH
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ffmasterjose | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:49 PM | message detail
Zack ain't no Balthier, that's for damn sure.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:50 PM | message detail
Wario's keeping it close.

Power Hour activate?
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:10:52 PM | message detail
Wario cut
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Character Battle 2008: Points 0/0 Today's Match: Wario > Zack Fair
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 9:11:02 PM | message detail
Well now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1LlUAAOxy8

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Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/17/2008 9:11:34 PM | message detail
I called Wario taking the night vote but as the poll goes along Zack will pull away.

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Score: 0/0 Today's Pick: Zack Fair > Wario
Lopen | Posted 9/17/2008 9:11:35 PM | message detail
Well, I will say this, if Wario doesn't start moving soon I'm thinking Zack has this. Zack probably takes the day vote, Brawl be damned. This is FF7 we talkin about, and it's Wario.
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UItimaterializer | Posted 9/17/2008 9:12:05 PM | message detail
RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/17/2008 10:10:14 PM (#030)

Who wins the after school vote?



I would assume the Brawl character, but who knows.

And Zack > Shadow? If Zack and Wario are even, then Zack and Shadow shouldn't really be close. Wario/Shadow was just an embarrassing match for the fat guy.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 9:12:17 PM | message detail
Man what if they're 50/50 all day long hahah.

Also HAHAHAHA Jade and Cecil.

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ZFS | Posted 9/17/2008 9:12:25 PM | message detail
Power Hour activate?

Hopefully. If Zack holds him off during a "power hour," I'd say that's good!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2008 9:12:29 PM | message detail
...What? Zack is not taking the Day Vote against a Nintendo character in Brawl.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:12:38 PM | message detail
Based off this match so far I'm going to make a bold prediction:



Jade Curtiss will be 128 in the x-stats for the second year in a row.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:12:54 PM | message detail
zack power hour more like zack power contest let's do this
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 9:13:04 PM | message detail
Shadow shouldn't really be close. Wario/Shadow was just an embarrassing match for the fat guy.

See this is silly. This was back in 2003, Shadow has VERY noticably declined since then, unless you think he'd pull 45% on Mario still... and it's pretty obvious that Wario's a whole new breed since 2003. Especially with Brawl.

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