GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 564
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 8:14:46 PM | message detail |
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Two posts and change for the first match? Can't I wear the Long-winded Crown for one lousy day?! --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:24:08 PM | message detail |
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Division 1: Round 1 - Match 1 – Cecil Harvey vs. Jade Curtiss vs. Wario vs. Zack Fair Moltar’s Analysis Cecil Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy IV 2007 Results: N/A Remember Cecil? He lost to Kirby several years ago! Jade Game/Series Known From: Tales of the Abyss 2007 Results: 4th Place in Round 1 vs. Ada, Balthier and Frank West Jade returns to get pummeled again Wario Game/Series Known From: Wario Ware 2007 Results: 2nd Place in Round 1 vs. Fox, Capt. Falcon and Banjo 4th Place in Round 2 vs. Sephiroth, Fox and Meta Knight Brawl Character #1 in the bracket Zack Game/Series Known From: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII 2007 Results: N/A he’s zack ****ing fair not some black-haired cloud Well, it’s Contest time again. We’ve always had a strong Nintendo character in the first match of the bracket. Great names have held this spot and had the honor of passing on the Nintendo tradition. Names like Mario, Link, Samus, Bowser and Yoshi. This year… Wait, it’s WARIO this year? What is that nonsense. Now, I’m not the biggest fan of this bracket (augh 4-ways again and tons of bad matches), but how can you go against the ‘strong Nintendo character beating his opponents with ease in the first match’ tradition? Oh well, it doesn’t matter anyway when you look at Wario’s opponents. Jade is pretty much a non-factor. Cecil has a chance to advance, but there’s one big factor standing in his way. Zack Fair. Honestly, Zack has gotten so much discussion over the past few weeks that I can’t even see his name on my screen without shuddering in horror. It’s not like the discussion about him is undeserved though. Zack is a big wildcard not only in this match, but in this whole division. Zack could be as weak as dirt, or could be a solid midcarder. The big question concerning Zack is how far the FF7 name will get him. Crisis Core isn’t huge like FF7 was, and it’s likely that FF7 fans don’t even care about Zack. All he has going for him is that he’s the star of the PSP game and a cameo in the Advent Children movie (which you have to admit was bad). Still, it’s not impossible to think that FF7 fans at GameFAQs (and there’s a lot) will vote for Zack since the competition isn’t exactly that great. Cecil may also get some of that FF vote, but in a bet between FF4 and a FF7 spin-off, I feel better putting my faith in something FF7-related. I don’t think Zack will be that strong, though it’s hard to say why since Zack is a big wildcard. Between being the only Nintendo character here and having Brawl behind him, Wario is a strong candidate for first here. Zack takes second, and Cecil comes in 3rd with a decent performance. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Wario > Zack Moltar’s Prediction is: Wario: 38% - Zack: 31% - Cecil: 22% - Jade: 9% Heroic Mario’s Analysis Starting the contest off on a high note right here: ZACK FAIR. Zack is my favorite new character to come along since Vincent. Partly because he's awesome, partly because he's been all over the board since the bracket came out. Everyone has something to say about him and there's no consensus on how far he goes, or how strong he'll really be -- does he lose in round 1, or go all the way to the semifinals? Tough to say with someone like Zack. I'm banking on it being closer to the latter than the former. He's just got some wicked range. Some think he's fodder, others think he could be the next Vincent. More than likely, he's somewhere in between, but closer to a Vincent than a Kefka. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:24:29 PM | message detail |
| One of Zack's best advantages is his association
to FFVII. He may not have been playable, or even had a whole lot of
screentime, but he had very important to the story regardless -- and
you can't finish FFVII without seeing him. For the talk about him being
a "black haired Cloud" or "BUSTER SWORD," I don't think Zack has
anything to worry about with recognizability. He has a very distinctive
look to him, it screams FFVII. And ignoring that, he just looks cool.
He isn't going to need a particular type of picture in order to do
well. The key here is how many people care about him. How many people who have played FFVII care enough to vote for him over Wario, Cecil, and Jade? Tough to say -- but I'd wager a lot. It helps that he's already gotten his own well-received game. Some people have questioned how much Crisis Core will matter since its a PSP game, but I don't think there's much to worry about there. The PSP's ownership on GameFAQs -- while not great -- is around 40%. That's enough to be relevant, I think. Throw in the 600,000 copies the game sold in the U.S., not including however many more come from downloading it instead of buying, and Crisis Core should be a big factor here. It's what elevates Zack from a short scene and a flashback to being a legit character. It helps that he's up against characters that most people don't care about, there's no big fan favorite in this group. It probably isn't a stretch to expect him to advance solely on his FFVII role. Zack's got everything he needs to win this match easy. Whether he will or not is another thing, but I'd be surprised if he didn't. He looks cool, his game is great, he's got the BUSTER SWORD, and he's backed by the FFVII fanbase. Expecting him to be another Vincent may be a stretch, but I think he'll be up there around Aeris. Most people think that's crazy, but I'm pretty confident Zack's gonna have some strength, and not just get by because of weak competition. A lot of the same arguments we heard for Vincent not being strong are being applied to Zack, and while they aren't exactly the same thing, it speaks to what a cool design and being associated to FFVII can do for you. As far as everyone else is concerned, I don't expect much. Wario should have an easy second place here, if only because he's the sole Nintendo / Brawl character here. I think he would need a lot more than that to compete with Zack, which is why I don't have him getting close here, but he should able to handle Cecil and Jade. Cecil will do respectably all things considered, but a distant third is about as much as he can hope for. Maybe he does a little better thanks to FFIVDS, but I doubt it. And Jade...man, who keeps nominating these bad Tales characters. time to end in this in the best way possible woo woo all aboard -- http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp237/mappster92/hypetrain.gif Prediction: Zack - 46% ; Wario - 27% ; Cecil - 19% ; Jade - 9% Bracket: Zack > Wario Vote: ZACK (UN)FAIR Yoblazer’s Analysis Welcome, one and all, to our seventh annual Character Battle! After nearly a year of anxious waiting and eager speculation, we're final ready to dance the contest tango once more. And what a dance this will be! Yes, not only are we in for our second straight year of four-entrant matches, but we're about to dive headfirst into what promises to be one of the most unpredictable, random, borderline psychotic brackets in history. Now, in all fairness, I must admit that I'm approaching this contest with a fair bit more apathy and agitation than usual. The bracket's complete randomness has resulted in a pretty boring prediction period; filling this thing out was like firing buckshots in the dark. I can only hope that our first batch of matches can bring us some entertainment and light a fire in our nerdy, number crunching bellies. Now, let's start this thing off right. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:25:21 PM | message detail |
| Our opening match isn't one of our most debated,
but it still has the potential (like nearly every other match,
amazingly) for a surprise or two. It's contested between three RPG
characters, one of whom has arguably the widest range of any non-joke
entrant in the tournament, and a B-level Nintendo star. Let's get the weaklings out of the way before moving on to the meat of the match. Jade Crutiss, star of the Tales of the Abyss series which I won't sit here and pretend to know a damn thing about, had one of the most lackluster first round performances of last year. Faced with, much like this year, a hodgepodge of dopes that lean heavily toward the weaker end of the strength spectrum, Jade managed a paltry 8.45%, and no one is expecting anything else from the X-Stats doldrums dweller this year. Our next aged RPG hero, Cecil Harvey, will certainly fare better, and some predictors are actually betting on him to move on, but I'm not willing to risk it. Unlike our third RPG guy, we've all seen what Cecil can do in a contest setting, and boy, was it ever un-prett-ay. A few years ago, Cecil wowed us with his performance against Kirby, laying a fart smelly enough to make this match's resident Nintendo entrant green with envy. Cecil ****ing sucked and was one of the weakest Final Fantasy characters we've ever seen. I hear he's gotten a handheld remake this year or something, but if I thought he could do anything worth a damn, I would have looked into it more closely. I'd be shocked if Cecil challenged for second place. Now that we're done with those hapless LOSERS, let's look into our two overwhelming favorites. Enter: Zack Fair. Zack, a minor, barely-mentioned character from the dreadnought of GameFAQs (that would be Final Fantasy VII), has drawn some of the greatest, funniest, most lengthy debates of the past month. His purposed range is huge: I've heard everything from him bombing against Cecil to being a neo-Auron in strength. Just staggering. There must be a reason for this, and it's a simple one: Zack's range is massive because there are massive uncertainties surrounding the guy. Yes, he's in FFVII, but he's not playable and is only mentioned and/or seen, like, once. Yes, he has his very own FFVII spinoff, but it's on the PSP, arguably the weakest system for breeding new, formidable characters. So, where does this place Zack? I think it places him in an easy second place. Black-haired-Cloud may not be the face of FFVII, but he's still part of the universe. He's got his own relatively popular, relatively recent FFVII game, and I think that alone is enough to lead to Cecil's undoing. Plus, the guy just has the FFVII look about him. He's got the hair, he's got the clothes, and he'll probably get the bigass sword, which would seal the deal right there. His chances are very questionable in later rounds, but for now, I think he's safe. I don't think, however, that he can realistically challenge for the win. Why? Enter: Wario. Nine times out of nine, a Nintendo character has emerged victorious in an opening contest match, and it's up to goddamn fatass Wario (?!) to keep the tradition alive. He is easily the weakest, most unlikely Nintendo entrant to face this responsibility, but luckily for our gassy friend, all the cards have been dealt in his favor. Wario is the only Nintendo character in this foursome, and his three opponents will be contending with a 3-way RPG split. The nature of his competition should artificially inflate his strength, but I think we're dealing with the strongest Wario ever, regardless. He's one of the guys I can see benefiting significantly from Brawl, as, despite his long and prolific career, it was his biggest release ever. Yoshi kicked things off with a bang last year, and I think Wario will follow suit with a thunderous waft this year. Mmm, smell that! Wario - 38% Zack Fair - 34% Cecil Harvey - 19% Jade Curtiss - 9% |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/17/2008 8:25:36 PM | message detail |
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PartOfYourWorld (#396) I had Liquid taking first in this match for the vast majority of the bracket making period. I changed it two days ago to Bowser > Liquid. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:26:25 PM | message detail |
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Lopen’s Analysis ZACK STATS ZACK ATTACK BLACK HAIRED BUSTER SWORD BELIEVE. ... Hey... yeah this match has been argued to death, I'll try to give it a shot one more time, though. Oh... wait... it wasn't this match, was it? Apparently Zack was supposed to escape this one easily... with Zack vs Shadow being the debate next round. Well, that's not where I start the debate. I really think Za ck needs to know his role, here. That is... stay true to his role in FF7, and stick around for maybe 5 minutes of screentime here, too. I for the life of me can't understand what people are banking on Zack to be so strong about. I've often seen him compared to Vincent... "people said the same thing because of Vincent's limited role and look what happened there." Man, here's the thing. You've got to draw the line somewhere. Vincent was playable, had popularity polls to back him up, and despite his limited role still beats the tar out of Zack's role, timewise. Zack, to me, is more like Ridley, from the Metroid series. Lots of lore from sources outside the game, but spends about 5 minutes in the game. Ridley bursts through walls... Zack bursts through... uhhh... I dunno... maybe if he randomly burst through walls I'd be voting for him. Now, there is his PSP game, Crisi-- his PSP game. Nuff said. Anyone banking on this thing to make huge waves... I'd not. The system has ~40% ownership on the site, with the amount that own the game likely being significantly lower than that. So basically, all things considered, I'm thinkin Zack will be among the worst of fodder. But hey, Cecil is too.. so why am I rambling on about this? Because Cecil will be the less foddery fodder. Cecil looked bad last time we saw him, true... but, I have a few reasons he might be more than total trash fodder. 1. He was a freakin robot last time. An ugly Amano-built robot, for that matter. Lettuce Kefka ain't got nothin on Robo Cecil in my books. 2. FF4DS! Not only does the game refresh FF4... but I hear it actually adds a ton of new content. Boost time. Plus the character art from the game is really beautiful... Cecil will be getting a picture to vote for unless Bacon is a total moron. 3. Still skeptical on FF4DS? Look at how many FF4 entrants are in the bracket. This isn't like Tales of Nominatia where B8 loves the weak game like its child and rallies to get way too many characters from it in... they all got in without any major B8 presence. That being said... I don't think Cecil will be strong or anything... so Zack might upset on virtue of having a buster sword alone. I'll say this right now though... Zack has no chance of placing round 3 (I'd say round 2... but never say never with that joke Shadow...!) Lopen's Prediction: Wario - 36.42% Cecil - 32.00% Zack - 26.13% Jade "I didn't even get the dignity of a line" Curtiss - 5.45% Transience’s Analysis hello, everyone, and welcome to Character Battle VII: a contest where we will spend two months fighting over a tetris block, a bag of sand, a disembodied voice without a name, a really stupid world of warcraft injoke, a stupid Dog and 29 Brawl characters. I can't wait. our first match starts off the most brutal division in the contest, and contains the single biggest wildcard that isn't a joke character, Zack Fair. Zack has a wild range that stretches from being fodder that could lose in the first round to being a serious midcarder that could walk out of this division with ease. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:26:42 PM | message detail |
| he's facing three RPG characters here, though, and
he doesn't have to worry about the Nintendo fanbase latching onto a
better character, so I think he's a safe pick for first. Zack could
surprise and take first here, but he's got a nice anchor in two RPG
characters and Wario is by far the most unique. now, second place. Jade bombed so hard last year that I don't even want to acknowledge him. Cecil is also pretty weak, but he's a known quantity: he did bad, but not AWFUL and he's had a port and a remake since, one of which just came out a couple months ago to strong reviews. he's going to be fodder - in my opinion, his ceiling is Terra - but if Zack bombs, he'll take second. he also might get a better picture this year thanks to 3d art and Dissidia, and the fact that Bacon loves him some FF4 and will know where to go for Cecil art. then again, Zack will probably get his iconic Crisis Core image with his back turned and The Sword showing, so that doesn't really matter. now then, Zack. the ultimate enigma, and the definition of "FF7fear". the argument for Zack? "oh, he's from FF7! FF7 has always been ridiculously strong." and it's true, 25% considers FF7 their favourite game, so why wouldn't they vote Zack? this would be fine logic except that Zack is barely an FF7 character. ask an FF7 fan who Zack is and they'd be able to tell you, but they couldn't tell you anything about him personally, anything that would convince you to like them. Zack is a footnote to FF7, and his only real scene is an optional one that's a bit out of the way. this isn't like Vincent, the optional character - this is just a bit of backstory. there may be some sick FF7 fans willing to vote for this, but not that many. no, Zack's strength comes from Crisis Core. Crisis Core did pretty well for a handheld game, selling 600,000 copies. (that's about 3 times what FF4DS sold in its first month, for the record) it's also a pretty good game, not some crappy Dirge of Cerberus disaster spinoff, and Zack is pretty cool in it. if you've played Crisis Core, you'll vote for Zack. he's like some weird mix of Tidus and Cloud. Crisis Core ain't FF7 though, not even close, and it didn't exactly shake the world when it came out. FF12 is more popular and I could see him losing to Balthier - FF12 sold better, reviewed better, and is on a console the site likes. but when you add in the FF7 pedigree, Zack could be anywhere. I'd say his floor is below Cecil, but he could be much, much more, and picking Cecil over him after seeing what Kirby did to him in 2005 is a mistake. Zack moves on and we get to see him (hopefully) unimpeded in round 2. old Square always bombs FF7 always wins but can't beat fart man transience's prediction: Wario with 36.43%, Zack with 30.66%, Cecil with 24.11%, Jade with 8.80% Ngamer’s Analysis Hello world! Moltar invited me to join the Crew this season for the first time; I told him I'd not only be in it, I'd win it! So let's get this off on the right foot, shall we? When tranny heard I was going to be joining the Crew, he shook his head and issued an "incoming wall of text" warning. I intend to prove him wrong! Basically my strategy for these writeups will be to take you through a short summary of my Oracle Challenge thought process- a pretty accurate process, I feel, as its resulted in my placement as the 3rd best predictor all time (in terms of lifetime average prediction). So let's get to it! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:28:34 PM | message detail |
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Wario's a chump, and everyone knows it. But he has a few things going
for him here... he's out of those suspenders and into his (slightly)
cooler biker gear, he's been in Brawl since we've last seen him, and
most importantly he sticks out like a sore thumb against all these long
haired effiminante J-RPG leads. When you're Nintendo, there's nothing
better than being able to stand out in a crowd! Weird to predict Zack for second, as he's going to ride Link's wake all the way through to the final of this division according to my bracket, but as I explained, he's bound to be held back by having so many other Final Fantasy/RPG options in the lineup. So even though I think his Buster Sword and Looks Like Cloud advantage should be enough to easily defeat Cecil, Wario should have just what it takes to edge him. As for Jade, pffffffffffffffft. There's never been a character in history we needed to see less than Jade. We're talking about a guy who managed less that 8 and a half percent against Balthier, Ada, and Frank West, a guy who is quite possibly the weakest entrant we've experienced since Tanner Himself. Why anyone would expect him to score more than 8% here is beyond me. So with those points in mind, these percents pretty much create themselves! Wario - 35.55% Zack Fair - 34.75% Cecil - 22.56% Jade Curtiss - 7.14% And there you have it. Looking forward to another exciting season! Guest’s Analysis - War13104 Division 1: Opening Match *CONTAINS POTENTIAL FINAL FANTASY IX SPOILERS* Cecil Harvey vs. Jade Curtiss vs. Wario vs. Zack Fair Now, won't this be interesting! Let's start with the uninteresting parts, shall we? Jade Curtiss ...how/why are you back? Another sub-10% and you'll confirm yourself as the weakest returning entrant ever. Yes, weaker than Guybrush. Hooray Guybrush! Wario The only interesting thing you can do is botch. If Zack or Cecil are even close to winning this, Wario will be fighting with Kerrigan and Balthier to reclaim the "Biggest Bomb" title he held (well, until Luigi/Squall) back in 2003. Cecil Harvey aww yeah Cecil. If Cecil wins (or gets second >_>), this will instantly become my favorite contest match ever. Now, people may point as his bomb against Kirby, but I must argue that the Amano art had an effect on Cecil's performance. Why? Because even I voted Kirby in that poll, because I figured there was no way that was FFIV Cecil. As we've seen in the past, Amano art can cause extremely underwhelming performances. ...unless you really think Mithos is much, much stronger than Albert Wesker. And before you disagree, Mithos is a Tales character. They aren't allowed to be much, much stronger than anybody of any note. With Ballin' being an FFIV fanboy, I fully expect a large Cecil picture advantage....or at least not Amano art. With FFIVDS recently coming out, this is Cecil's best chance to make some contest noise. And for those of you pointing out 2k5 STILL, In Europe and the US, Final Fantasy IV's sales have increased by about 50% since his match with Kirby. Cecil's gonna be a lot stronger than he was back then. Can't wait for the dark knight to crush Jade and a random Final Fantasy character. B-b-but he's Zack! You know, from FFVII? |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:29:08 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, three FF NPC/non-final boss (NFB) characters of main series Final
Fantasies have ever gotten into the contest before. One was the Midgar
Zolom, who arguably plays a more important role in FFVII than Zack, one
was Kuja, possibly the weakest FF entrant to ever appear in a 1v1
match. And the third? Uncle Ulty. Yeah, not exactly elite company. I
would take Ultros over Zack, and the Zolom would...well, it'd probably
be SFFed to death. I checked the FFVII board, and more people care
about Vincent being called a vampire in the description than about Zack
being in the contest. If Zack is going to beat Cecil, it'll be entirely
on the back of Crisis Core. That's right, an entirely PSP-based
character. We saw what the face of the PlayStation 3 (at the time) did
last year. Zack won't be quite THAT bad, but he's not going to beat
Cecil. Summary: lol Jade Wario must avoid lol Cecil will rock Zack's socks Oh god I predicted FFVI character over FFVII character I'm such a goddamn Final Fantasy IV fanboy and I don't care Wario: 35.01% Cecil: 32.88% Zack: 25.55% Jade: 6.56% Crew Consensus: We ain't buying into ZackFEAR here. The majority has Wario > Zack, though Wario > Cecil and Zack > Wario are the next best options. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/17/2008 8:30:26 PM | message detail |
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MnM's Magnificently Marvelous Analysis Wario > Zack --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2008 8:33:35 PM | message detail |
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research time Wario's best time is the night. Cecil, surprisingly, didn't bomb in the day against Kirby, but who knows. he's probably like other old Square - dies in the daytime. Jade always sucks. Zack... who knows. FF7's traditionally bad early, good at night and great in the day. the exception is Tifa, and I wouldn't even compare Zack to FF7. I'd expect him to be great early, good at night and dying in the day. if Zack is good in the daytime, I say he's legit and not some weird creation. that means regular people know who he is. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/17/2008 8:36:15 PM | message detail |
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Zack will get the board vote. Also are there any other contests besides these... Prediction Percent Oracle Challenge Perfect Bracket Character Position Order --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 0/0 Today's Match: Wario > Zack Fair |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 8:36:49 PM | message detail |
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Should I vote for Zack or Wario? Next post decides it... --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2008 8:37:14 PM | message detail |
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Cecil --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 8:38:00 PM | message detail |
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I think that defaults to Zack! --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2008 8:38:55 PM | message detail |
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You heard the man, vote for Cecil. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:39:41 PM | message detail |
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zackFAQs begins in 20 mins let's do this --- Moltar Status: =D Cecil/Jade/Wario/Zack - Bracket: Wario > Zack - Vote: Wario (0/0) |
| steve illumina | Posted 9/17/2008 8:41:41 PM | message detail |
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The Sage of Board 8 is back and ready to carry a Perfect through at least the first day! :) 18 min to go! Steve Illumina: Sage of Board 8 & Elitist Analyst AIM: Steve Illumina, Score 0/0, Go Rydia! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2008 8:45:55 PM | message detail |
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I'm staying away from the majority of BT's bad points, but here are two I wanted to cover: No, but I'd take GH3 over Melee, which is the only thing relevant to this discussion considering Brawl wasn't out 3 years ago On top of Melee smashing GH3 with ease, GH3 wasn't out three years ago either. Allow me to reiterate though: Melee smashes GH3. In fact, SSBM likely beats the GH series with a little room to spare. Keep in mind the GotY FF12 won was literally weeks after the game came out. You're thinking of FFX or LoZ:TP. --- NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:47:02 PM | message detail |
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i have a bad feeling about wario guyz. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| WishFulfillment | Posted 9/17/2008 8:47:32 PM | message detail |
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man im feeling like ass right now... I should be getting pumped to see
zack crash and burn and all I want to do is clutch the porcelain god. i got a fever and the only prescription is cecil kicking some black haired cloud ass --- wish fulfillment every day |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/17/2008 8:48:53 PM | message detail |
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Keep in mind the GotY FF12 won was literally weeks after the game came out. FFXII came out in like October. I remember because I was sick Halloween and played it... so the GotY polls wouldn't be weeks later As for the GH3 thing... I may be wrong in this, but I look at GH kind of like... Madden. Very popular series and a very casual series... and uh, we saw how well Madden performed in the series contest. I don't expect GH3 or GH... anything would be a super powerhouse game in a contest and there's no way it gets anywhere near Melee. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 8:49:06 PM | message detail |
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On top of Melee smashing GH3 with ease, GH3 wasn't out three years
ago either. Allow me to reiterate though: Melee smashes GH3. In fact,
SSBM likely beats the GH series with a little room to spare. The argument was that Axel will do to Midna what Hand did to Kuja. Which is why adding Brawl's sales to the argument is moot since the Axel match has yet to happen, and the Hand match was 3 years before Brawl. |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:49:15 PM | message detail |
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In regards to hourly updates: Zack will get the board vote. I would expect Zack to potentially lose the "Board" Vote actually. Wario is the bracket favorite, especially among casuals I'd guess, and Cecil and Jade probably both have decently strong hardcore fanbases. Here are the hourly updates for Kirby/Cecil in 2005 in case anyone's interested. Cecil didn't get embarrassed with the vote shifts or anything, but it was still noticable. Time | Kirby Cecil 01:00 | 74.29% | 25.71% 02:00 | 74.22% | 25.78% 03:00 | 73.48% | 26.52% 04:00 | 72.99% | 27.01% 05:00 | 74.18% | 25.82% 06:00 | 77.39% | 22.61% 07:00 | 77.13% | 22.87% 08:00 | 75.98% | 24.02% 09:00 | 76.50% | 23.50% 10:00 | 76.95% | 23.05% 11:00 | 76.66% | 23.34% 12:00 | 76.78% | 23.22% 13:00 | 75.92% | 24.08% 14:00 | 73.63% | 26.37% 15:00 | 73.73% | 26.27% 16:00 | 73.97% | 26.03% 17:00 | 74.62% | 25.38% 18:00 | 74.72% | 25.28% 19:00 | 75.39% | 24.61% 20:00 | 73.91% | 26.09% 21:00 | 74.11% | 25.89% 22:00 | 76.06% | 23.94% 23:00 | 72.58% | 27.42% 00:00 | 72.23% | 27.77% Vote Shift: 05.16% --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| nintendogirl1 | Posted 9/17/2008 8:49:52 PM | message detail |
| Discussion from last year I haven't seen this
year: getting one character in the right place and the other character
wrong. Should it be worth the same as getting the characters mixed up? For example, if I were to cover my ass for a L-Block/Link final (I didn't), it would be in my benefit to put Cloud/Link rather then Link/Cloud because I would get half points rather then quarter points. Has someone with Cloud/Link actually got a better prediction then someone with Link/Cloud though? I don't think so. There must be a better way of scoring it imo. --- I just don't know what. |
| ZFS | Posted 9/17/2008 8:50:35 PM | message detail |
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Come on Zack --- let's mosey |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2008 8:51:05 PM | message detail |
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Are we going to have the match updator working? --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| WishFulfillment | Posted 9/17/2008 8:52:21 PM | message detail |
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Discussion from last year I haven't seen this year: getting one
character in the right place and the other character wrong. Should it
be worth the same as getting the characters mixed up? For example, if I were to cover my ass for a L-Block/Link final (I didn't), it would be in my benefit to put Cloud/Link rather then Link/Cloud because I would get half points rather then quarter points. Has someone with Cloud/Link actually got a better prediction then someone with Link/Cloud though? I don't think so. There must be a better way of scoring it imo. that's not covering your ass, its guaranteeing you lose. if you don't call the final match right, you're not winning this contest. --- wish fulfillment every day |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 8:52:38 PM | message detail |
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http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=2401 This place is about to explode. I'm finally getting excited for this! --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2008 8:52:52 PM | message detail |
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Come on, fat Wario! I really wanna play Mario Kart 64 right now..... --- NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 8:53:20 PM | message detail |
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The argument was that Axel will do to Midna what Hand did to Kuja. Now you're comparing Midna to Kuja and Axel to the Master Hand? lololololol --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 8:53:21 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of the updater, has anyone even seen creativename around? --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/17/2008 8:53:40 PM | message detail |
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LET'S GO WARIO KICK SOME ASS EVEN IF MY BRACKET SUFFERs --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2008 8:54:42 PM | message detail |
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I have. let's grab five minute updates just in case though. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 9/17/2008 8:54:54 PM | message detail |
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creativename hasn't posted since he made his oracle predictions. I'm
not sure if he'll have the updater set up in time. Should we set up a
topic to record updates until we can contact him? --- What do you think of the planetarium? The beautiful twinkling of eternity that will never fade, no matter when. All the stars in all the sky are waiting for you |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:55:11 PM | message detail |
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we should do that. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2008 8:55:27 PM | message detail |
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Who votes against a character they like just for their bracket? That kind of thing is bleh. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/17/2008 8:56:09 PM | message detail |
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Who votes against a character they like just for their bracket? That kind of thing is bleh. Oh no, I have Zack > Wario, but I'm voting Wario. Sorry if you misunderstood. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2008 8:56:44 PM | message detail |
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Ah, sorry then. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:57:41 PM | message detail |
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For some reason, I'm sensing a huge disaster for Zack coming up. Hopefully, it won't be enough to knock him out of second! Should we set up a topic to record updates until we can contact him? Hell, I wish we could have update topics for every match this year, so we have less "OMG Up By 3!!!1!!!" in the Stats topic. I would help out with keeping updates if anyone's interested. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2008 8:57:45 PM | message detail |
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that's not covering your ass, its guaranteeing you lose. if you
don't call the final match right, you're not winning this contest. I won 6th last year and got the last match half right. 2nd place did too. Course, it was L-Block. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| WishFulfillment | Posted 9/17/2008 8:59:15 PM | message detail |
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f5 f5 f5 --- wish fulfillment every day |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/17/2008 8:59:31 PM | message detail |
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It begins. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 0/0 Today's Match: Wario > Zack Fair |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 8:59:57 PM | message detail |
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zack's going to blow wario away. i regret my wario > zack pick already. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| WishFulfillment | Posted 9/17/2008 9:00:01 PM | message detail |
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i came in 2nd with getting it half right Lopen. That was last year though. --- wish fulfillment every day |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 9:00:19 PM | message detail |
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Cecil Harvey 33.33% 7 Jade Curtiss 19.05% 4 Wario 28.57% 6 Zack Fair 19.05% 4 TOTAL VOTES 21 zackfaqs --- Moltar Status: =D Cecil/Jade/Wario/Zack - Bracket: Wario > Zack - Vote: Wario (0/0) |
| Tediz247 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:00:28 PM | message detail |
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Cecil Harvey 25.93% 7 Jade Curtiss 22.22% 6 Wario 22.22% 6 Zack Fair 29.63% 8 TOTAL VOTES 27 --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/17/2008 9:00:30 PM | message detail |
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Cecil Harvey 26.67% 8 Jade Curtiss 20% 6 Wario 20% 6 Zack Fair 33.33% 10 TOTAL VOTES 30 ZACK ATTACK --- Demyx is better than Axel. Just like Explicit Content is better than me for winning the Guru contest. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 9:00:30 PM | message detail |
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Cecil Harvey 25% 7 Jade Curtiss 21.43% 6 Wario 21.43% 6 Zack Fair 32.14% 9 TOTAL VOTES 28 A BLOND-HAIRED ZACK --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Janus5000 | Posted 9/17/2008 9:00:40 PM | message detail |
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Cecil Harvey 23.33% 21 Jade Curtiss 16.67% 15 Wario 30% 27 Zack Fair 30% 27 TOTAL VOTES 90 *farts* --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Stay a while and breathe me in. |
