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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 5:19:33 PM | message detail
No, but I think Axel Steel would get killed by Kratos Aurion.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 5:19:36 PM | message detail
axel > midna

lock imo
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trannyscience | Posted 9/17/2008 5:19:37 PM | message detail
I have a really bad feeling about Zack today. FF7 has proved over the years that it can absolutely rock a poll full of fodder. Tifa did it in 2005, Vincent did the same, and then Cloud/Sephiroth of course. Zack obviously isn't those dudes, but FF7 has a rep of going over and above all expectations against weak opponents.

and even if he does that, I think that he *still* could lose to Shadow, because a lot of those votes will go away when there's somebody worth voting for - Link. it's not SFF, it's that people are like "oh I don't care about these people" and vote for the FF7 dude. I'm not sure what Zack needs to do to get favourite status - he could come in second and beat Shadow, or he could come in first and lose to Shadow. it's quite unpredictable.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 5:20:00 PM | message detail
GH3 has definitely outsold any Smash game.

prove it. vgcharts says otherwise.

Not to mention she almost lost to a Tales character less than a year after her game. Unless you think Twilight Princess has gotten more popular since last fall.

i dont see why you think Axel would do so much better. this isnt exactly a good point at all for you.

are you telling me Axel wouldnt get killed by Scorpion?

also keep in mind that you cant even talk about the second match here; Samus was in it as well.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2008 5:20:08 PM | message detail
tales character more like fails character LOL!!!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 5:20:21 PM | message detail
He got close to Diablo over 3 years ago. Since then, we've seen Lloyd lose to HK-47 and Zelos lose to TOM NOOK
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 5:20:39 PM | message detail
80 million?

what the hell are YOU talking about? if it was 80 million we'd have Axel out of his division ****ing easy.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 5:21:07 PM | message detail
Since when has the Smash serise sold more than 80 million...

You said GH has outsold the entire Smash series (which has, to date, sold a total of about 19-20 million copies) 4-to-1. Now, far be it from me

oh what the hell I may as well just block you. Starting early this year!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 5:21:10 PM | message detail
Samus, who failed to get SFF on either Zelda or Ganondorf suddenly SFFs Midna?

Ever hear of logic?
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 5:21:59 PM | message detail
Since then, we've seen Lloyd lose to HK-47

and that's Lloyd; who is weaker than Kratos. much weaker.

and Zelos lose to TOM NOOK

same as above.

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/17/2008 5:22:37 PM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#305)
He got close to Diablo over 3 years ago. Since then, we've seen Lloyd lose to HK-47 and Zelos lose to TOM NOOK



That same year, Lloyd barely beat Wesker. Aurion is different from other Tales characters in that he's at worst the new Vyse, while the others dream of being within striking distance of the Vyse line. >_>
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 5:22:52 PM | message detail
Samus, who failed to get SFF on either Zelda or Ganondorf suddenly SFFs Midna?

Ever hear of logic?


it doesnt have to be an "SFF-a-thon." you cant deny that they at least split. if Luigi and Ganondorf can split, i dont see why Samus and Midna couldn't; especially since Midna barely has appeal here.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 5:34:26 PM | message detail
The Guitar Hero franchise has become a cultural phenomenon, making many appearances in popular culture, and the games have become extremely popular as party games and hobbies. The series has sold over 21 million units,[1] earning over US$1 billion.[2]
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2008 5:49:19 PM | message detail
Axel Steel>Midna is probably the worst upset I've seen discussed, and some people are picking Nana.


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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 5:49:57 PM | message detail
Axel Steel>Midna is probably the worst upset I've seen discussed

This.
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Samurai7 | Posted 9/17/2008 5:52:37 PM | message detail
I'm sure most GH players don't care about the characters at all.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 5:52:40 PM | message detail
seriously?

wow you guys have a lot of faith in a character that completely bombed last year and has no reason at all to get any more popular.

i mean, midna didn't just bomb last year, she bombed

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/17/2008 5:54:25 PM | message detail

ExThaNemesis (#315)
seriously?

wow you guys have a lot of faith in a character that completely bombed last year and has no reason at all to get any more popular.

i mean, midna didn't just bomb last year, she bombed



Midna's competition isn't exactly strong. Miles Edgeworth and a Guitar Hero character aren't THAT fearsome of opponents. Hell, I'd consider taking Agent 47 out of this fourpack. >_>
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 5:54:36 PM | message detail
^Yes, realtive to our unrealistically high expectations. Again, GH is more known for its music than its characters.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 5:55:18 PM | message detail
^Directed at ExTha*
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/17/2008 5:56:00 PM | message detail
yah but this dude is the face of GH. I dunno, maybe it's Midnafail fear, but I'm pretty confident in that pick.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 5:56:04 PM | message detail
Hell, I'd consider taking Agent 47 out of this fourpack. >_>

In a heartbeat. Agent 47 would maul Edgeworth and Axel.
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/17/2008 5:57:01 PM | message detail
Axel Steel does not advance.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 5:57:14 PM | message detail
Hell, I'd consider taking Agent 47 out of this fourpack. >_>

In a heartbeat. Agent 47 would maul Edgeworth and Axel.


So would I.
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Xuxon | Posted 9/17/2008 5:57:20 PM | message detail
she still beat kratos aurion, who would probably triple axel. seriously, he's getting less than edgeworth in that poll.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2008 5:57:35 PM | message detail
I would take Midna, Kratos Aurion, Agent 47, and Sam Fisher over Axel Steel.

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/17/2008 5:58:32 PM | message detail
Bidoof would beat Axel Steel.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/17/2008 5:59:04 PM | message detail

MegatokyoEd (#325)
Bidoof would beat Axel Steel.



Duh, Bidoof was beating VINCENT. >_> <_<
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 5:59:43 PM | message detail
I'm thinking TOAD could beat Axel Steel.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2008 6:09:21 PM | message detail
magus or sandbag

let's do this quickly
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/17/2008 6:10:03 PM | message detail
Magus. Sonic kills Sandbag's Smash support. >_>
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 6:10:40 PM | message detail
Agree with War13104.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/17/2008 6:10:45 PM | message detail
If Axel actually did get to round 2, we'd get this awesome match pic of him:

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 6:11:57 PM | message detail
Sonic seems to be more of a guy that gets Smash support if there's nobody better. it's not like he was well-received and wasnt already well-known.

Snake killed him with ease in their match last year for whatever it's worth.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/17/2008 6:12:21 PM | message detail
Oh, and on the subject of Agent 47...

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 6:12:56 PM | message detail
Super Smash Bros sold 1.4 million copies in Japan, [56] and 2.3 million in the U.S.[57] Melee sold over 7 million units worldwide, becoming the best-selling GameCube title.[3] Brawl has also sold 1.524 million units in Japan as of March 30, 2008.[58] The game also sold 1.4 million units in its first week in the United States, becoming Nintendo of America's fastest selling title.[59]

Unless Brawl has sold another 7 million units since March, there's no way that equals 20 million.

The Guitar Hero franchise has become a cultural phenomenon, making many appearances in popular culture, and the games have become extremely popular as party games and hobbies. The series has sold over 21 million units,[1] earning over US$1 billion.[2]

Keeping in mind that Guitar Hero 4 is coming out sometime in October and the series has only been around for a couple of years. Also add to the fact that Master Hand went against Kuja in 2005, so you can subtract all the Brawl sales and a good chunk of the Melee sales for this argument.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 6:14:27 PM | message detail
Unless Brawl has sold another 7 million units since March, there's no way that equals 20 million.

it's still a ridiculous comparison seeing how it's a game vs a whole series.

but sales isnt an argument; Smash is much bigger than GH. why are we discussing this?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 6:15:41 PM | message detail
ALSO, she beat a Kratos Aurion who was 2 years older at the time of that match as compared to when he performed decently on DK. And we've seen all the other Fails characters completely bomb last year.

Also keeping in mind that Scorpion absolutely tore apart his fourpack. When a Midcarder is laying that kind of beating on you, you know you suck. Once again I reiterate that Axel doesn't need to be strong at all.

Then again, Kefka beating Marcus Fenix was a sure bet, and so was Pikachu getting his ass handed to him. I can see why you guys don't believe me.
satai_delenn | Posted 9/17/2008 6:17:01 PM | message detail
magus or sandbag

let's do this quickly


Magus, I refuse to believe that even he would lose to a sandbag. >:-|
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trannyscience | Posted 9/17/2008 6:17:12 PM | message detail
we're in the eleventh hour and we're debating Midna vs. Axel Steel

awwwww yeah
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 6:17:36 PM | message detail
A game vs a whole series? I seem to remember comparing both series. My point is, if a freaking hand from a less exposed series can beat a Final Fantasy villain, why can't the face of what is currently the most popular gaming franchise beat someone who completely sucked last year, and has had a year of huge game releases further putting Twilight Princess out of gamers' minds?
MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/17/2008 6:17:47 PM | message detail
And we've seen all the other Fails characters completely bomb last year.

All the other 'Fails' characters bombed the year Kratos Aurion got close to Diablo. You have no real proof to suggest Kratos himself has dropped from then.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 6:18:06 PM | message detail
And we've seen all the other Fails characters completely bomb last year.

I'll say it again: Lloyd, Zelos, and Jade are far weaker than Kratos Aurion.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 6:18:37 PM | message detail
ALSO, she beat a Kratos Aurion who was 2 years older at the time of that match as compared to when he performed decently on DK. And we've seen all the other Fails characters completely bomb last year.

you know going head to head with HK-47 isnt exactly bombing. neither is comfortably beating Agent 47. they did around expected really.

Also keeping in mind that Scorpion absolutely tore apart his fourpack. When a Midcarder is laying that kind of beating on you, you know you suck.

i wonder what that says about Frog and Axel then?

i think you're simply underestimating how well fighting game characters do in this format.

Then again, Kefka beating Marcus Fenix was a sure bet, and so was Pikachu getting his ass handed to him. I can see why you guys don't believe me.

turtle is the only person in this topic that actually uses 'i was right about some other thing' as a serious argument.


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ZFS | Posted 9/17/2008 6:19:42 PM | message detail
what is going on in here

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satai_delenn | Posted 9/17/2008 6:19:44 PM | message detail
why can't the face of what is currently the most popular gaming franchise

Honestly...I'd take the guitar as the face of the franchise before Axel Steel. >_>
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 6:19:48 PM | message detail
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#342 And we've seen all the other Fails characters completely bomb last year.

All the other 'Fails' characters bombed the year Kratos Aurion got close to Diablo. You have no real proof to suggest Kratos himself has dropped from then.


I have common sense. A niche Gamecube RPG is not what people are thinking of when 3 new consoles come out and hundreds of new games replace ToS (or should I say PoS) in their minds. We saw Vyse go from fodder line to bottom of the barrel, why is Kratos no different?
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 6:19:53 PM | message detail
A game vs a whole series? I seem to remember comparing both series. My point is, if a freaking hand from a less exposed series can beat a Final Fantasy villain, why can't the face of what is currently the most popular gaming franchise beat someone who completely sucked last year, and has had a year of huge game releases further putting Twilight Princess out of gamers' minds?

because you're not actually looking at how popular the series is relatively to GameFAQs and only by sales alone. i'm sure you wouldn't take Gears of War over FFVI.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/17/2008 6:20:33 PM | message detail
Tim could take Axel Steel

Soulja Boy's got his back and his fans will come to vote

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 6:20:37 PM | message detail
what is going on in here

turtle is trying to argue that Axel Steel has a chance against Midna. Which he doesn't.
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