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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 564

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 4:28:55 PM | message detail
Speaking of that Pikachu match, I dropped Ike for Arthas a few days ago. Today, I learned that Arthas is the Lich King himself, and I'm feeling even better about the switch.
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LegendaryRaiden | Posted 9/17/2008 4:29:21 PM | message detail
Not much, but given the weak ass competition I think we GH fans will rally behind Axel.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 4:29:26 PM | message detail
Pikachu sure did impress last year though.

18% with Luigi, Dante, and MC vs 19% with LS, MC, and Yuna.

very, very close performances.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 4:30:29 PM | message detail
Today, I learned that Arthas is the Lich King himself, and I'm feeling even better about the switch.

Good, or you woulda felt his wrath
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LegendaryRaiden | Posted 9/17/2008 4:30:31 PM | message detail
Uhhh, that's not close at all really. Yuna and Liquid have nothing on Luigi and Dante.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 4:31:07 PM | message detail
I have Axel Steel because Midna was complete garbage last year.

And how is Ike the favourite in that match? Was Arthas beating Diablo not impressive enough?
Xuxon | Posted 9/17/2008 4:32:37 PM | message detail
plus pikachu was getting sff'd by luigi. plus either arthas or kratos will probably advance if not both.

pikachu > alucard
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/17/2008 4:32:44 PM | message detail
Midna was screwed by the matchup last year. I still feel comfortable with Midna coming in second. Axel Steel won't do anything.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 4:33:13 PM | message detail
Uhhh, that's not close at all really. Yuna and Liquid have nothing on Luigi and Dante.

yeah you're right.

..... Pikachu > Alucard upset train?
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/17/2008 4:33:31 PM | message detail
I assume People who play Guitar Hero couldnt give 2 ****s about Axel.

This.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 4:33:51 PM | message detail
The second round match of Alucard/Arthas will be near the release of wotlk when it has the most hype. Not saying Arthas will pull an upset, but I wouldn't be shocked.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 4:34:33 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if Pikachu takes out Alucard, but I get the feeling he won't be nearly as strong if he's not standing out like a sore Nintendo thumb. If Diddy is in the poll, I call Alucard the favorite. If Diddy and Ike are both in, it's an easy second place for Pikachu.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2008 4:35:22 PM | message detail
The thing is, while I'd normally take Pikachu > Alucard *easily* in this format, Diddy and Ike should be there. And if they aren't, that may mean Nintendo has lost a step, which means I'd still be iffy on Pika's chances.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 4:35:52 PM | message detail
I have Axel Steel because Midna was complete garbage last year.

Too bad Axel Steel won't do anything. Midna was screwed over by matchups.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 9/17/2008 4:36:48 PM | message detail
How was Midna screwed in the 1st match?
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Xuxon | Posted 9/17/2008 4:39:10 PM | message detail
The thing is, while I'd normally take Pikachu > Alucard *easily* in this format, Diddy and Ike should be there. And if they aren't, that may mean Nintendo has lost a step, which means I'd still be iffy on Pika's chances.

no, it means nintendo fell victim to LFF is all. and even with one of them there, you can see that pikachu nearly as well as alucard against stronger competition despite being LFFed by luigi, so if even only one nintendo character makes it pikachu should take first.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/17/2008 4:40:03 PM | message detail
Midna beat Kratos Aurion. Anyone that would take Axel Steel over Kratos Aurion is just wow. A lot of GH players don't even like Axel Steel. I sure don't.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 4:40:55 PM | message detail
Arthas (2007c) VS Alucard (2007c)

Arthas has a strength of 16.78.
Alucard has a strength of 21.09.

Alucard wins with 60.22% of the vote!
A win of 29,629 with 144,984 total votes cast.

This was with Arthas being SFF'd like crazy by Diablo, and pre Wotlk boost. Don't be shocked if Arthas is able to beat him, because Alucard is going down in popularity over the years if anything.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/17/2008 4:41:35 PM | message detail
Speaking of that Pikachu match, I dropped Ike for Arthas a few days ago. Today, I learned that Arthas is the Lich King himself, and I'm feeling even better about the switch.

Yeah, I probably will never play a Warcraft game, but I've read up on the storyline at least to see what the big deal about the various characters were for contest purposes (same with Starcraft). I'm still taking Ike though. Yes, Arthas beat Diablo out, but they both lost to KOS-MOS, and it's not like we were talking high percentages. The Boss also beat Tails (15.84% - 15.60%), but are we clamoring about what her strength was? There's no Mega Man to hog all of the percentage this go around, so Arthas would really have to earn it this time.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 4:42:53 PM | message detail
Yes, Arthas beat Diablo out, but they both lost to KOS-MOS, and it's not like we were talking high percentages.

Diablo and Arthas are both of Blizzards main characters, so obviously they just stole eachothers votes. Have em in there without the other, and either of em woulda taken out kosmos.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 4:43:32 PM | message detail
Midna almost lost to a Tales character, and got killed by Scorpion

Axel Steel just needs to be at the fodder line to advance there.
therealmnm | Posted 9/17/2008 4:44:02 PM | message detail
And look at the percentage they were fighting for.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 4:44:35 PM | message detail
How was Midna screwed in the 1st match?

I wouldn't exactly say that, but expectations for Midna were set too high last year.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 4:45:55 PM | message detail
And look at the percentage they were fighting for.

And look at the fact that Diablo was there, stealing his votes. Diablo/Arthas is essentially the same as Mario/Link stealing eachothers votes because of loyalty for the company.

Plus, you've refused to acknowledge how Arthas is a totally different beast this year, being the focus of the biggest game sales wise and hype wise of the fall.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 4:46:29 PM | message detail
Midna almost lost to a Tales character, and got killed by Scorpion

Axel Steel just needs to be at the fodder line to advance there


Again, expectations were set too high. Would you really take Axel Steel over Kratos Aurion? I sure wouldn't. Guitar Hero is known for its music, NOT its characters.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 4:49:53 PM | message detail
Does Axel Steel have a personal story or conflicts? Does he actually even say anything? Somehow, I can't shake the feeling that putting faith in Axel isn't too far removed from putting faith in those DDR dancers when that series was huge.

Axel strikes me as the worst first round upset pick I've seen seriously discussed.
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Samurai7 | Posted 9/17/2008 4:50:38 PM | message detail
I wouldn't exactly say that, but expectations for Midna were set too high last year.

Sounds like a certain Zack I know.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/17/2008 4:50:58 PM | message detail
So does The Boss beating Tails last year mean she's as strong as Tails?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/17/2008 4:52:03 PM | message detail
Does Axel Steel have a personal story or conflicts? Does he actually even say anything? Somehow, I can't shake the feeling that putting faith in Axel isn't too far removed from putting faith in those DDR dancers when that series was huge.

he shreds crazy guitar solos to save up money to get health care for his dying mom who has cancer
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 4:52:43 PM | message detail
Sounds like a certain Zack I know.

What, you think Cecil will move on? He was fodder in 2k5. He got tripled by Kirby. FF4DS may help, but I doubt it'll be enough.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2008 4:53:28 PM | message detail
So does The Boss beating Tails last year mean she's as strong as Tails?

Given what I saw of Sonic characters last year - in this format, hell yes.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/17/2008 4:54:23 PM | message detail
All Zack has to do is win round one, and he's likely to make the quarterfinals.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 4:55:37 PM | message detail
Oh, if Zack can actually beat Wario tomorrow, there's no doubt in my mind that he'll cruise through three rounds. I have him coming in second place and still making it out of the division.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 4:56:41 PM | message detail
Does Axel Steel have a personal story or conflicts? Does he actually even say anything? Somehow, I can't shake the feeling that putting faith in Axel isn't too far removed from putting faith in those DDR dancers when that series was huge.

Axel strikes me as the worst first round upset pick I've seen seriously discussed.


Kuja has emotions and backstory. No way in hell he loses to a hand.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 4:57:48 PM | message detail
Remember when some of you were saying that FF6 Advance would give Kefka the strength to crush Marcus Fenix?

Yeah, look where that got you.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 4:58:00 PM | message detail
Guitar Hero and Smash Bros. - one of these things is not like the other.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/17/2008 4:59:51 PM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#279)
Remember when some of you were saying that FF6 Advance would give Kefka the strength to crush Marcus Fenix?

Yeah, look where that got you.



To be fair, back then the "loyal fanbase" argument was completely valid.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 5:03:47 PM | message detail
any final thoughts on possibly L-Block/The Dog LFF?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 5:04:46 PM | message detail
I hope CATS breaks that poll.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 5:14:00 PM | message detail
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#286 Guitar Hero and Smash Bros. - one of these things is not like the other.


You realize that Guitar Hero has outsold the Smash franchise at least 4 to 1 right? And all of those sales are in the last 3 years.
MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/17/2008 5:15:31 PM | message detail


You realize that Guitar Hero has outsold the Smash franchise at least 4 to 1 right? And all of those sales are in the last 3 years.


You do realize we're on GameFAQS right?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 5:15:36 PM | message detail
If L doesn't advance, it won't be because of the Dog.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/17/2008 5:15:48 PM | message detail
that's only because they made so many versions; not a single one by itself outsold Smash.

and Smash >>>> GH here. so sales is irrelevant once that's injected in your head.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 5:17:12 PM | message detail
And unlike Grand Theft Auto, Guitar Hero is very well liked, meaning those sales actually mean something. It's not like Axel needs to be a NN threat, he's going up against someone that almost lost to a Tales character and was destroyed by Scorpion and Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 5:17:36 PM | message detail
GH3 has definitely outsold any Smash game.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/17/2008 5:17:42 PM | message detail
Sorry, but I have a very hard time believing the Guitar Hero franchise has total sales of 80 million copies. Also, sales aren't everything. You should know that. I don't know if you're a big Guitar Hero fanboy or what, but...

The Sims
Madden
Chrono Trigger
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 5:18:41 PM | message detail
Not to mention she almost lost to a Tales character less than a year after her game. Unless you think Twilight Princess has gotten more popular since last fall.
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/17/2008 5:19:11 PM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#288)
And unlike Grand Theft Auto, Guitar Hero is very well liked, meaning those sales actually mean something. It's not like Axel needs to be a NN threat, he's going up against someone that almost lost to a Tales character and was destroyed by Scorpion and Frog



Didn't that Tales character do pretty well on Diablo? >_>
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2008 5:19:17 PM | message detail
Since when has the Smash serise sold more than 80 million...
MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/17/2008 5:19:20 PM | message detail
Stop saying JUST A TALES CHARACTER. Kratos Aurion got close to Diablo. He is not the average Tales character.
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