GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 563
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/13/2008 9:27:12 PM | message detail |
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The Sandbag > Magus edition! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~ http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ ~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~ http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html ~*aprosenf's poll script*~ http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~ http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore ~*ST*~ |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 9:28:09 PM | message detail |
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SANDBAG'D --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/13/2008 9:28:45 PM | message detail |
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Sandbag is the only joke character I'm trusting this year! Take that beating and keep on ticking, you trustee bag of sand! --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/13/2008 9:32:47 PM | message detail |
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I'm still not taking Sandbag anywhere out of Round 1, but I would find
hilarity in Magus losing it when at one point, him taking first in this
match would have been a hot upset. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/13/2008 9:36:36 PM | message detail |
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Can we please stop saying the Nintendo Power Hour, when we've seen
proof that the opening hours are simply more casual than the rest of
the night in other ways as well? A) Master Chief seemed to do noticably better in these hours last year. B) "Grade School Students" did noticably better in the opening hour in the recent poll on what age GameFAQS visitors are. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| SuperAngelo128 | Posted 9/13/2008 9:37:49 PM | message detail |
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As long as Sandbag doesn't beat Sonic it's all good --- Games to get: Sonic Chr, MM9, Kirby, Crisis Core, TWEWY, God Hand, NMH, Wario, Okami, IU, ES, DQ4, GTA4, Bioshock |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/13/2008 9:45:05 PM | message detail |
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Some thoughts on WCC, since some of the discussion from the other topic will probably bleed into this one. L-Block had a static percentage of 29%. Now, WCC's will obviously be much less due to its lack of universality, so I would put it at 25% *at the most*, among reasonable competition*. Would anyone dispute that? Now, even if the other three characters split the vote evenly, WCC would have trouble advancing. However, the other three characters *won't* split the vote evenly. Tails will do a little worse than the others, allowing Tidus and Donkey Kong to pass through. *This is assuming that Weighted Companion Cube functions along joke percentage lines in the way that L-Block did --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 9:48:59 PM | message detail |
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I need Link > Cloud for my sanity! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| ZFS | Posted 9/13/2008 9:49:01 PM | message detail |
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Hey, how about we scrap this for an impromptu game contest. Sounds like a plan to me. --- let's mosey |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/13/2008 9:50:15 PM | message detail |
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Somehow I get the feeling that people are just going to get sick of
voting for Sanbags and cubes and blocks and Jinjos and Mudkipz or
whatever else we end up with. Possible, but the two strongest characters ever are currently getting wiped out by those collective joke entries. It's not an official poll, obviously, but with the contest only a few days away, this definitely has me rethinking things. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| transience | Posted 9/13/2008 9:50:31 PM | message detail |
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nominate Big Rigs woo --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 9:51:14 PM | message detail |
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L-Block and joke entries have over 50% of the vote when Link, Cloud, and the field are involved. Let's wrap this one up. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| transience | Posted 9/13/2008 9:51:24 PM | message detail |
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this doesn't have me rethinking anything. this is, quite frankly,
expected, and I don't know why anybody would think a joke like that
would get old. I guess when you're surrounded by board 8ers who get
really into it you lose perspective? --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| ZFS | Posted 9/13/2008 9:52:03 PM | message detail |
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nominate Big Rigs woo save us final fantasy vii --- let's mosey |
| transience | Posted 9/13/2008 9:52:24 PM | message detail |
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Final Fantasy VII Ocarina of Time Chrono Trigger Big Rigs what happens --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 9:53:33 PM | message detail |
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I add the fifth option of suicide. Also, I'll cry if the Games Contest goes fourway. I think I'll be crying a lot over the next few months. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/13/2008 9:54:54 PM | message detail |
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I don't think this poll tells us anything. Link had around 7 or 8 times
as manyy people predicting him to win in 2003 as Cloud did. While these
kind of predictions can be useful at times when dealing with unknown
entrants, there's an obvious reason as to why this poll is going the
way it is. People saw what happened last contest and are adjusting
their brackets accordingly. Doesn't mean they're voting that way. -- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/13/2008 9:54:56 PM | message detail |
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There is one other thing to consider. This is asking us who we think
will win. No one's actual opinion is being asked. They may not actually
vote for these blocks and sanbags when match time comes. Plus, none of
them have a joke first round that includes scrubs like Nathan Hale and
Laharl that were just not gettng votes. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 9:55:53 PM | message detail |
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This poll basically is asking what's in your bracket, yeah, but still, trends have shown it to be pretty reliable. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/13/2008 9:56:04 PM | message detail |
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this doesn't have me rethinking anything. this is, quite frankly,
expected, and I don't know why anybody would think a joke like that
would get old. I guess when you're surrounded by board 8ers who get
really into it you lose perspective? Don't all jokes get old? Well, you're probably right about this one. I've forgotten that L-Block mania only lasted a couple weeks or so, and that it happened a year ago. For all we know, there are 30,000 guys F5ing right now and just waiting to recreate madness. This puts me in an ugly spot, though. I know I won't enjoy a contest where the legit characters get trounced and all this discussion we've had means nothing, but I'd still like to wind things up with a decent bracket. Heh, I usually let the argument of Favoritism vs. Reason decide one or two tough matches in a bracket. Now, I'm basically letting it decide the entire bracket! --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 9:57:10 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, for me, debating a serious match is much more enjoyable, for whatever the reason. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/13/2008 10:00:03 PM | message detail |
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I loved L-Block madness last year, but it's humor is like trying to
catch lightning in a bottle. It's just not going to be amusing this
year. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| transience | Posted 9/13/2008 10:00:06 PM | message detail |
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all jokes get old, but this isn't something that's been beaten to
death. this is something that essentially happened over a one week
period 10 months ago. the only people who think it's old are people who
frequent this board. if I said to a friend of mine "remember when L-Block won that GameFAQs contest?", they'd say "ha, yeah, that was awesome." as for momentum, I'd say a Block winning the contest is good enough. people know about that. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| transience | Posted 9/13/2008 10:00:44 PM | message detail |
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plus, it's not like L snuck by Laharl. it freaking demolished it, all while leading Kirby for a few updates. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/13/2008 10:01:39 PM | message detail |
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As I said earlier, if there's one thing I learned about the internet, it's that people love running jokes into the ground. I expect L-Block to win again, even over other joke characters. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| ZFS | Posted 9/13/2008 10:02:17 PM | message detail |
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what happens bad things --- let's mosey |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 10:02:49 PM | message detail |
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I nearly slapped my girlfriend the other day when she said she'd vote for L-Block in these things. Okay, well, not really, but when my girlfriend, whose video game knowledge doesn't extend beyond Mario and Sonic, is all about the L-Block... Actually, I'm not really sure I had a point here. I think I'm just venting. Argh, women! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| transience | Posted 9/13/2008 10:03:22 PM | message detail |
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I like your girlfriend. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 10:04:00 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I promptly banned her from GameFAQs afterwards. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/13/2008 10:05:23 PM | message detail |
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Sounds like a keeper to me! --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 10:07:18 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and she also knows about Phoenix Wright because she's watched me play it a little bit. But yeah, that's about it. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/13/2008 10:07:35 PM | message detail |
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plus, it's not like L snuck by Laharl. it freaking demolished it, all while leading Kirby for a few updates. what joke character is in a match with laharl this year i think i know what joke character will take contest by storm this year --- Married to Heroic Palmer! HeroicTronBonne - "Albion, I would Love to do an account bet with you over Ike/Arthas. " Don't forget! |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/13/2008 10:08:13 PM | message detail |
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And if you're that stressed out over her GameFAQs habits, there's a
good chance that further down the line you'll push her over the edge
and she'll end up cheating on you or something. Women like to cheat on
humorless dicks, after all. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| ZFS | Posted 9/13/2008 10:08:32 PM | message detail |
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http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/photos/duckhunt_dog_laugh.gif whoa contest champion right here --- let's mosey |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 10:08:39 PM | message detail |
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I'd bet the Warthog from Halo would do a lot better than Hogger. Actually, I know it would. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/13/2008 10:09:07 PM | message detail |
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MyWorldIsCrono (#032) If anyone's a joke character, it's Laharl. Who the hell still nominates him anyway? --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 10:09:32 PM | message detail |
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Argh, rooting for the Dog to LFF L-Block is like rooting for USC to destroy Ohio State. I feel dirty all over. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/13/2008 10:09:34 PM | message detail |
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Who the hell still nominates him anyway? i did lol --- Married to Heroic Palmer! HeroicTronBonne - "Albion, I would Love to do an account bet with you over Ike/Arthas. " Don't forget! |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/13/2008 10:10:30 PM | message detail |
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Interesting poll here. I think Link will end up overtaking L-Block
before this is over though. The two are close now and Link still has
the whole day. --- sig |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/13/2008 10:10:50 PM | message detail |
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We should have put Vyse in his spot, considering Vyse beat him that one time. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/13/2008 10:13:29 PM | message detail |
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if I said to a friend of mine "remember when L-Block won that GameFAQs contest?", they'd say "ha, yeah, that was awesome." I can say from personal experience that this is true. --- sig |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/13/2008 10:13:38 PM | message detail |
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Laharl has a dedicated fanbase that'll get him in every year, like tales characters. Just get used to it --- Married to Heroic Palmer! HeroicTronBonne - "Albion, I would Love to do an account bet with you over Ike/Arthas. " Don't forget! |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/13/2008 10:14:53 PM | message detail |
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MyWorldIsCrono (#042) If they want to see their favorite character get obliterated year after year, that's fine. Laharl and the Tales characters give me a good laugh at how crappy they are anyway. Same with Shadow Hearts. Obscure RPGs are so hilarious. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 10:15:06 PM | message detail |
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...So what are the odds L-Block and The Dog BOTH advance? Seriously, everyone knows The Dog. Duck Hunt was packaged with the original Mario Bros. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/13/2008 10:15:46 PM | message detail |
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...So what are the odds L-Block and The Dog BOTH advance? 100-1 --- Married to Heroic Palmer! HeroicTronBonne - "Albion, I would Love to do an account bet with you over Ike/Arthas. " Don't forget! |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/13/2008 10:15:48 PM | message detail |
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This poll is really making me rethink Mudkip though. It's not like Knux
or Zelda are just gonna roll over for MMX to pass and Mudkip's
guaranteed a certain percent of the vote. If he starts dropping off
once the sun rises.... --- sig |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 10:16:56 PM | message detail |
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Well, Mudkip couldn't beat Luigi and Ganon LFFing each other, so I'm not TOO worried about him... --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/13/2008 10:17:22 PM | message detail |
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Everyone knows The Dog, but does anyone actually like him? I doubt most joke voters would even vote for The Dog if he was the only joke character. The Dog's a dick and has no likable or redeemable qualities. --- SNES Reviews - http://mega64.20ehost.com/ "[Wylvane]'s the type of guy we probably need more of around here to keep the place interesting." ~Smurf |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 10:17:49 PM | message detail |
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Who likes the L-Block in Tetris? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/13/2008 10:18:01 PM | message detail |
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But seriously, L Block MAY beat out metaknight, but Ryu advancing is 100% certain. --- Married to Heroic Palmer! HeroicTronBonne - "Albion, I would Love to do an account bet with you over Ike/Arthas. " Don't forget! |
