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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 562

HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2008 3:06:32 PM | message detail
Guys, disrespecting The Boss is no laughing matter...

...but it's tempting.
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/13/2008 4:45:06 PM | message detail
I would think Zelda > Knuckles would be a somewhat clear favorite.

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/13/2008 4:45:59 PM | message detail
Knuckles never loses in the first round!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 4:46:52 PM | message detail
Magus > Knuckles was a unanimous choice, and we saw what happened there!
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Lopen | Posted 9/13/2008 4:48:01 PM | message detail
I'm not the biggest fan of the Boss, but even I can realize that she's like the utter opposite of "one dimensional" or "useless." Cripes, have you even played the game?
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Xuxon | Posted 9/13/2008 4:59:50 PM | message detail
i would pick dk > frog in a heartbeat
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ChronicYouth | Posted 9/13/2008 5:43:58 PM | message detail
guys you dont have to ignore BT to escape his stupidity, instead every time you see him post, ignore the actual content hit "Post Message" and then come up with some witty insult towards him.

it's been working for about a year for me

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2008 5:50:37 PM | message detail
Leonhart mentioned this in another topic and figured it was worth one last look before the brackets close...but does Isaac stand any chance to advance to the second round?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2885

Isaac has gotten a SSBB-cameo since last year and Lucario probably won't match Pikachu...so that will close the gap there some (though I doubt either factor by itself will do a lot). Meanwhile, there's no doubt Altair > Serge-with-Tidus...but by how much? I think enough to beat Isaac and not really worry, but the way people have been doubting Altair lately worries me. I also don't wanna get Altair too close to Tidus...or, really, close at all, even Tidus-with-Serge. It seems to be a pretty unanimous thought that Niko clearly beats Altair and Niko is barely favored over Kefka right now...

...I dunno, it feels like it's worth a second look. Any thoughts?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 5:55:11 PM | message detail
Yeah, I think the match is being overlooked because of Isaac's apparent weakness. I mean, he's fodder, but he's not bottom-feeding fodder. Really, picking Altair is more for me of picking Not-Isaac than it is picking Altair. I don't really know what to think of the guy, and I'm sorta concerned he'll bomb.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/13/2008 6:02:09 PM | message detail
I actually considered Isaac, because I really don't have much respect for Altair. There's two things that lead me against picking him: Lucario's going to be taking away most of anything he's gotten from appearing in Brawl, and the threshold for taking second in that match should be in the mid-twenties, and, against non-awful competition, Isaac is only going to get so high. On the bright side, he has the most favourable look (dude with a sword) in that match, so he might get apathy votes.

Of all the characters in the first round that no one really gave a chance, I think Isaac and Roxas have the best chance to do something. Unfortunately for them, not only are said chances not terribly high, they've both got a weight dragging them down (Lucario and Sho, respectively).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 6:04:03 PM | message detail
I don't really expect Sho to weigh Roxas down, Square characters or not. I'm a little more skeptical when it comes to LFF than others do, I think.

Nevertheless, go Roxas!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/13/2008 6:05:40 PM | message detail
I generally more skeptical when it comes to LFF, as well, but when you're already trailing your opponent, every little bit hurts. Plus, the bigger the S/LFF between Riku and Roxas was last year, the better Roxas' chances this year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 6:09:24 PM | message detail
For the record, Roxas got the equivalent of 39.39% on Riku based on their match last year, which isn't half bad for an SFF match. For the record, Riku went from 37.26% on Hayabusa to 50.67% without Roxas. He's worth 46.29% on Kratos based on their match last year.

Not sure what all of that means, but I am one of the few who is of the opinion that Roxas > Axel.
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Lopen | Posted 9/13/2008 6:10:20 PM | message detail
Assist Trophy boost? Really? BRAWLFEAR is borderline ridiculous at this point.

Isaac might have a chance, though... not convinced Lucario will be to blame much at all though should he fail.
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ChronicYouth | Posted 9/13/2008 6:12:57 PM | message detail
wait... what? Issac is only an AT in Brawl? Are you joking me right now?

god damn I was starting to think there was something to that argument, but now I'm just laughing my face off. I haven't played brawl outside of the first couple weeks of it's release, because 1) my wii broke and 2) i dont really play vg's at my friends houses anymore.

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/13/2008 6:13:31 PM | message detail
....What did you think he was? Playable?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 6:14:25 PM | message detail
The main villain of the Subspace Emissary, obviously.
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transience | Posted 9/13/2008 6:14:27 PM | message detail
Shadow is an assist trophy -- Shadow to the semifinals confirmed
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ChronicYouth | Posted 9/13/2008 6:16:22 PM | message detail
yeah actually I did, once the argument was being brought up for Issac getting a Brawl boost. sorry for not hanging on the nuts of nintendo and not knowing everything about brawl.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/13/2008 6:16:39 PM | message detail
Lucario's going to be taking away most of anything he's gotten from appearing in Brawl,

I figured that implied that I thought he didn't get much of anything from Brawl. <_<

In any case, Lucario is still a fellow Nintendo character and even a fellow handheld RPG character. His presence doesn't help Isaac, and Isaac probably needs all the help he can get.
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ZFS | Posted 9/13/2008 6:17:26 PM | message detail
Assist Trophy boost? Really? BRAWLFEAR is borderline ridiculous at this point.

Gonna have to agree with this.

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Same Orphanage | Posted 9/13/2008 6:18:27 PM | message detail
Raiden is a sticker in Brawl you know what this means.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 6:21:17 PM | message detail
There's a Naked Snake trophy and sticker in Brawl. Kirby/Big Boss/Raiden will LFF each other BIG TIME.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/13/2008 6:22:33 PM | message detail
yeah Lucario is going to take any brawl votes Isaac got. there's no reason to vote Isaac over Lucario if you only know them from Brawl.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2008 6:25:51 PM | message detail
Hey, nobody was laughing at the idea of SSBB making Grey Fox the strongest MGS boss sometime before the contest started, and Isaac needs the exposure more than Grey Fox ever did. Still, I already said it's not going to mean much by itself and it's already been acknowledged that Lucario's going to hurt Isaac anyway.
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Lopen | Posted 9/13/2008 6:26:37 PM | message detail
I'm still totally bummed that there was no Raiden in Brawl. Or at least a costume similar to what Mario had for Wario (though Raiden with no cartwheels and the inferior Snake technique and finesse might not be that fulfilling) What happened to the love for clone characters, dammit.

Oh wait we got Wolf and Toon Link. Brawl is the worst game ever !!
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2008 6:28:20 PM | message detail
For what it's worth, I hate Lucario in SSBB and think Isaac's one of my favorites out of the AT/Pokeball characters.

I do not expect this to matter in their match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 6:28:24 PM | message detail
Hey, nobody was laughing at the idea of SSBB making Grey Fox the strongest MGS boss sometime before the contest started

I didn't hear this idea, but if I had, I would have!
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Lopen | Posted 9/13/2008 6:31:05 PM | message detail
Eh, I know people weren't calling for MUCH gain for Isaac... but honestly, I'd call for nothing. Forget "not much." I wouldn't even humor the idea of it breaking the match if he beat Altair by like 500 votes, even without Lucario there. It's just not something you bother putting into the equation.
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transience | Posted 9/13/2008 6:31:50 PM | message detail
it's so silly that I wouldn't bother to laugh.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/13/2008 6:36:22 PM | message detail
I've got Isaac > Altair and had Roxas > Liquid at one point. Changed the latter once I played TWEWY and saw some folks on that board talking about how unfair it was that both Roxas and Sho share the same poll.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 6:41:00 PM | message detail
I think it's more unfair that Luigi and Roxas share the same poll because I won't be able to vote for Roxas!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/13/2008 6:42:16 PM | message detail
you seriously have Isaac > Lucario?
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2008 6:43:04 PM | message detail
i assumed he was talking about second place there.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/13/2008 6:45:31 PM | message detail
No no, I don't have Isaac > Lucario. I've got Lucario > Isaac > Altair > Guybrush.

Same with Luigi > Liquid > Roxas > Sho
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 7:49:35 PM | message detail
Clearly, the Assist Trophy boost for Shadow will be too much for Crisis Core to overcome!
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2008 7:52:45 PM | message detail
Oh God...

...Shadow and Isaac could split the SSBB-AT-vote just enough for Zack's PSP-boost to advance him past the division finals.



why do i ever mention small factors why
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/13/2008 7:54:33 PM | message detail
psst

psst

LINK

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2008 8:00:04 PM | message detail
Link isn't on the PSP and having three different playable versions of himself in the SSB series isn't going to do much for him.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/13/2008 8:03:13 PM | message detail
I'm going to cry

We are seriously talking about Assist Trophies

Why Bacon

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Phoenix_Left | Posted 9/13/2008 8:05:10 PM | message detail
...AT vote?

omg

NINTENDOGS FOR CBVIII
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/13/2008 8:07:35 PM | message detail
We could be talking about Zack flopping in an hour, but now we have to wait another few days. Boo.

On a slightly more serious note, I wonder if Zack will have the traditionally awful FFVII early vote. He's probably the most balanced character in the poll overall, as Wario should be strong during the day and Cecil at night (and the Colonel doesn't matter). But if you combine an awful FFVII early vote with a probable Cecil board vote and night vote, it could be interesting!
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transience | Posted 9/13/2008 8:09:11 PM | message detail
who the hell antivotes Zack

I imagine he'll be an early vote kind of guy.
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ZFS | Posted 9/13/2008 8:09:41 PM | message detail
Could be talkin' about Zack to the finals !

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/13/2008 8:09:47 PM | message detail
The beginning of the first poll is going to be all bracket voting. I don't think anyone here feels strongly about those characters (besides a few, but there are always a few diehard fans for any character). Maybe Cecil does better.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/13/2008 8:10:40 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's hard to get that anti-FFVII vote if the anti-FFVIIers don't recognize he's from FFVII, and all of the FFVII fans do!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/13/2008 8:13:39 PM | message detail
I think the board likes FFIV more than anything else. Though, I guess it is unlikely that Zack will get antivoted (Aerith didn't last year, and Tifa didn't the year before), and he's probably got a fair amount of bracket voting going for him.

(plus nobody will recognize him as being from ffvii aw yeah lets do this)
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ZFS | Posted 9/13/2008 8:15:13 PM | message detail
Hard to not recognize the Buster Sword!

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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/13/2008 8:16:23 PM | message detail
http://people.rit.edu/~zmb0386/ZackRd1.png

aw yeah sabotage
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transience | Posted 9/13/2008 8:17:02 PM | message detail
well, anti-voting doesn't actually exist. it's just that it's their weakest time and early voters are a unique bunch. it's not like they do it to spite them.

still, I expect characters that are not so recognizable to do their best with people that are in the know. Zack, whatever version of Kefka we get, Glados, etc etc.
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