GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 562
| Xuxon | Posted 9/12/2008 5:38:43 PM | message detail |
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you can't even get mewtwo until after you beat the game. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/12/2008 5:40:38 PM | message detail |
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More people have played Melee than Brawl. prove it. at least melee owning brawl by a considerable amount. Despite that, Marth's performance last year >>>>>>>>>> Ike's performance last year. yes, of course seeing how it was pre-brawl. his Smash strength is going to be sapped by a more popular character baseless assumption... this is actually what you're arguing. >_> --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/12/2008 5:41:10 PM | message detail |
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damn it we're over Marth vs. Ike --- xyzzy |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/12/2008 5:44:40 PM | message detail |
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If he's analogous to Mewtwo (I guess that makes sense, given Brawl), is
a fourth gen version of Mewtwo going to be anywhere near as strong as
the original? Maybe I'm wrong, but it always seemed to me that Pokemon
was most popular during the R/B days, and, indeed, the rat and Mewtwo
are the strongest Pokes around. Bidoof and 2nd round Mudkip had very
jokey patterns, so I'm not sold on their strength coming from Pokemon,
either. I still think Marth wins the Smash split by a lot, and I don't, or at least I didn't, think that Lucario had much of an independent fanbase. --- Mustache...and green... |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/12/2008 5:48:00 PM | message detail |
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I thought a lot of Mewtwo had to do with that movie. it's had what, ten
years to sink in? high schoolers watched that when they were kids. who watches Pokemon movies today? I heard this was a straight-to-DVD release over here, and while it's apparently good and gets played on cartoon network or whatever, I have to wonder about its impact. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3227 --- xyzzy |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/12/2008 5:58:07 PM | message detail |
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it's possible a good portion of mewtwo's vote is because of the movie
but i honestly think most of his appeal is just who he is in the series
in general. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/12/2008 6:00:32 PM | message detail |
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Only thing you need to know about Lucario is that he's a popular Pokemon. Seriously, they stick out like a sore thumb in this format. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/12/2008 6:03:37 PM | message detail |
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damn it we're over Marth vs. Ike I'm sure not! *still thinks Marth>Ike is a very stupid pick but is willing to let the arguments slide if we can get back to Zack Fair* --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| ZFS | Posted 9/12/2008 6:21:38 PM | message detail |
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did someone say zack soon --- let's mosey |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/12/2008 7:53:26 PM | message detail |
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....people think Marth can beat Ike?
You're pretty much banking on Marth's SSBM fanbase putting him over
Ike's Brawl fanbase, which I don't think makes any sense. Ike's casual
following (which I think makes more of a difference in polls than
competitive people) in Brawl is bat**** massive. Everyone who's ever
done a With Anyone online match knows this. ~*ST*~ --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 9/12/2008 8:01:06 PM | message detail |
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You're pretty much banking on Marth's SSBM fanbase putting him over Ike's Brawl fanbase, which I don't think makes any sense. No, you're banking on Marth's SSBM and SSBB fanbase over Ike's Brawl fanbase. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2008 8:09:47 PM | message detail |
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MarioSuperstar Posted 9/12/2008 8:40:38 PM message detail #252 More people have played Melee than Brawl. prove it. at least melee owning brawl by a considerable amount. Despite that, Marth's performance last year >>>>>>>>>> Ike's performance last year. yes, of course seeing how it was pre-brawl. his Smash strength is going to be sapped by a more popular character baseless assumption... this is actually what you're arguing. >_> Dude, Melee has been out for what... 6 years? There's no way in hell more people have played Brawl. And I don't think you realize just how bad Ike did last year. He lost to Duke Nukem as the sole Nintendo character against 3 PC characters, and by a good margin. And this was after the Brawl announcement that let Snake beat the crap out of Mega Man and Sonic. Ike was far below the fodderline last year, and as Captain Falcon showed us, you can't rely on Smash to put you above the fodderline. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2008 8:11:49 PM | message detail |
| And Marth is basically the Ike of Melee, and he also has a Brawl following even if it isn't as big. Ike may be the more popular character in Brawl, but Marth was the casual favourite in the far more exposed Melee, and he is still in Brawl to boot. Not to mention Marth doesn't have that lame "I fight for my friends" lame, cliche kiddy crap. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 9/12/2008 8:21:29 PM | message detail |
| Yeah, I hate agreeing with Turtle, but I can't see
a way how Ike would beat Marth in a 1 on 1 match, unless you think
Brawl is much more popular then Melee. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/12/2008 8:29:53 PM | message detail |
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As long as we're assuming Brawl is the end-all... Meta Knight > Ryu let's do this |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/12/2008 8:30:46 PM | message detail |
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You're insane if you don't think that the Brawl/Melee fanbase overlap
heavily while also giving Ike the clear edge in popularity. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/12/2008 8:32:19 PM | message detail |
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The boost the smash series gives to their characters is about the same,
characters gets more or less the same strength. You seem to be
forgetting the Brawl was the most hyped game on GameFAQs even the few
melee fans that don't own brawl at least know what characters are in
Brawl. Also Ike his two Fire Emblem games to draw strength from, which
isn't much, but that's the reason why I give Ike the edge over Marth
indirectly. On a one vs one, all bets are off and it'll all depend on which character smash fans perfer more. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 0/0 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/12/2008 8:35:14 PM | message detail |
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*has his two fire emblem games... --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 0/0 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/12/2008 8:43:55 PM | message detail |
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Dude, Melee has been out for what... 6 years? There's no way in hell more people have played Brawl. well 35% of the site havent played brawl as of march. i doubt they're very far apart now in playability. And I don't think you realize just how bad Ike did last year. He lost to Duke Nukem as the sole Nintendo character against 3 PC characters, and by a good margin. And this was after the Brawl announcement he was only announced on the site; the game wasnt released. you cant hold that against Ike forever. you dont really have anything concrete besides an Ike on the internet. if anything, that should give Marth the willies already. I doubt Marth is far from Falcon himself.. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/12/2008 8:48:19 PM | message detail |
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Gordon also lost to Duke in that match. And being announced for Brawl on a website means almost nothing. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| LegendaryRaiden | Posted 9/12/2008 8:57:11 PM | message detail |
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Lopen is that you Cecil over Zack round 1 don't put this terrible train in my yard --- Did you say nerd? - Raiden Yes, I did. Your hearing is flawless. You heard correctly. Get to the nerd. - Campbell |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 9/12/2008 9:04:38 PM | message detail |
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Is it being suggested that Melee's extra years of availability give it
a significantly higher playrate on this site? If so, I've got sour news
for you, Jack. Do you own Super Smash Bros. Melee? Yes, and I've played it with 3 others at once 54.43% 38337 Yes, but I've never played with all 4 10.83% 7631 No, but I used to 6.62% 4663 No, it's not my kind of game 7.57% 5334 No, I never owned a GameCube 20.54% 14467 TOTAL VOTES 70432 Do you plan to buy Super Smash Bros. Brawl? Yes, I'll be buying the import this week 2.44% 2555 Yes, I can wait for the US release 50.26% 52624 Yes, but I'll wait for the PAL release 7.57% 7922 Maybe, I'll wait and see what the reviews are like 6.16% 6449 No, I don't even own a Wii 33.57% 35148 TOTAL VOTES 104698 Can't say for certain how many of those "maybes" ended up picking up the game, but if it was most (which seems likely given Brawl's excellent reviews), the numbers between the two games are already very comparable, 6 year advantage or not. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| LegendaryRaiden | Posted 9/12/2008 9:08:54 PM | message detail |
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~60%-66% vs ~72%. I suppose it's not a huge gap, but it's more than a
trivial one. I don't think most were calling for a huge gap. Plus
there's probably not complete overlap. In any case, I'd still probably
say Melee helps more than those Ike FE games. --- Did you say nerd? - Raiden Yes, I did. Your hearing is flawless. You heard correctly. Get to the nerd. - Campbell |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/12/2008 9:14:52 PM | message detail |
| Who else is shocked that "There's a contest?!" isn't winning the poll for once? |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 9/12/2008 9:17:11 PM | message detail |
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With about 53% currently saying they're going to sit out this Contest,
it certainly LOOKS as though anticipation is low for this new bracket.
But if you take a closer look at the numbers, you'll see that according
to this final-day to enter poll, 32.87% of the site submitted a bracket in 2006. 30.38% of the site submitted a bracket in 2007. 33.44 of the site is going to submit a bracket this year, if the current results hold. Which they almost certainly won't, but still, I doubt anticipation falls too much under the bar set by '07, if it does at all. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 9/12/2008 9:47:28 PM | message detail |
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Bob is right; the "What Contest?!" option won this poll every single season from 2002 through the Character Battle in '05. If anyone would like to take a closer look at this subject, I have all the Contests ranked according to how "anticipated" they were based on this pre-season interest poll. The results... may surprise you! http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Most_Anticipated_Contests --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| ZFS | Posted 9/12/2008 9:58:18 PM | message detail |
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You can tell we've got nothin' left to argue when Marth/Ike goes on for a couple of pages. --- let's mosey |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/12/2008 9:59:18 PM | message detail |
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hey guys Banjo Jak Ratchet Crash Banicoot who wins --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| transience | Posted 9/12/2008 10:00:04 PM | message detail |
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five more days --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/12/2008 11:12:11 PM | message detail |
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I'm surprised nobody said that alongside Mewtwo is pretty much the strongest Pokemon out of Gen 1. That is probably the biggest
source of his popularity onside of the movie. You gain Mewtwo at Level
70 and Psychic Pokemon are already imbalanced as hell in that game.
Sporting a Mewtwo was easily a casual favorite thing to do. That was
why he was popular in the first place... then the movie came out. I don't think Lucario has the advantage of being the strongest Pokemon in the game that Mewtwo did... --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/12/2008 11:13:43 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Mewtwo is the ultimate Pokemon. The coolest, strongest guy around. Lucario doesn't have that stuff going for him. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/13/2008 12:12:46 AM | message detail |
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So, uh... what's Mudkip's chances of winning this thing if he gets over MMX? --- sig |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/13/2008 12:22:15 AM | message detail |
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Mudkip will score 23ish % in any match he's involved in, so he'll never actually win a match, just maybe get second. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/13/2008 12:25:30 AM | message detail |
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I just switched to Cloud > Yoshi for my division finals match there.
It had been Cloud > Mewtwo for a while, but Yoshi is more legit than
him and I've actually switched to Yoshi > Squall because I feel Fox
will leech less off Yoshi than Sora will off of Squall. If I get this wrong I'm going to be mad, because historically I've gotten ****ed over for doubting Yoshi. --- Arsenal FC 2-0-1 Pts: 6 Pos: 4th | Where there are RKOs St. Louis Rams (0-1) Next Game: NYG | There will always be ExThaNemesis |
| -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/13/2008 12:36:22 AM | message detail |
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With about 53% currently saying they're going to sit out this Contest I say that this is mostly to blame due to all of the users that just recently discovered the site. From what I think, around half (or more) of the votes in any poll are coming from users who just stumbled upon GameFAQs (via a search engine usually) and voted in the poll without an account. It is these users who are voting on the 4th option (not entering the contest) since you need an account to enter the contest. --- Luster Soldier - Popular at school. ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/13/2008 1:03:30 AM | message detail |
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Since there was a lot of Ike / Marth talk recently, how well do you
guys think Roy would do? I know he's not as popular as Marth in the
competitive scene, but I figure he's probably more popular than Marth
with the casuals. --- sig |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/13/2008 1:19:21 AM | message detail |
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Roy would be the weakest of the bunch for sure. He's not even in Brawl. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/13/2008 1:27:27 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, he's probably the weakest since he missed out on Brawl. But he
might be close to Marth Pre-Brawl. Just want to see what others think. --- sig |
| The_Doom_Dealer | Posted 9/13/2008 4:23:42 AM | message detail |
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So, why is it popular choice to put Tidus > Donkey Kong? Doesn't this remind anyone of Pikachu > Tidus last year? --- Official Board 8 Pokemon Heavyweight Champion SC2k8 - Status: Worried about L-Block - Score: 0/0 |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/13/2008 4:43:56 AM | message detail |
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Because it's freaking Donkey Kong. Nothing more really needs to be said, and I have DK winning in the first round. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/13/2008 6:17:13 AM | message detail |
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So, why is it popular choice to put Tidus > Donkey Kong? Doesn't this remind anyone of Pikachu > Tidus last year? This my anylize of that match: Tidus, DK or Tails winning a poll? No way that's going to happen! The Cube will win that match advance to the division finals with the blue bomber! And I haven't even played Portal >_> I also wish that Allen would close the bracket and start the contest already, ever since I got FFIVDS I want to have Cecil making out of the division and Kain + Rydia in round 2..... Damn what an awesome game. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2008 6:52:44 AM | message detail |
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charmander6000 Posted 9/12/2008 11:32:19 PM message detail #267 The boost the smash series gives to their characters is about the same, characters gets more or less the same strength. You seem to be forgetting the Brawl was the most hyped game on GameFAQs even the few melee fans that don't own brawl at least know what characters are in Brawl. Also Ike his two Fire Emblem games to draw strength from, which isn't much, but that's the reason why I give Ike the edge over Marth indirectly. On a one vs one, all bets are off and it'll all depend on which character smash fans perfer more. I still don't see how you feel Ike is significantly more popular than Ike with such certainty. Marth has all the numbers behind him. All Ike has is "lulz the noobs like him" which you can say about Marth in Melee. And Melee being 6 years old means that it has had exposure to way more people than Brawl does, whether it was people who owned the game, or people playing on their friend's copy, there is no possible way there have been even remotely near the same amount of people that have played Brawl as Melee. As for Roy, he'd probably be the weakest of the bunch due the fact that he was secret and not in Brawl at all. Really, saying Ike > Marth is like saying.... Peach > Mewtwo or something equally stupid. And Tidus > Donkey Kong is a smart pick. Remember, in a close match, always bet against DK. |
| Midget_Fetish | Posted 9/13/2008 6:59:56 AM | message detail |
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Except...the casual melee players didn't pick Marth, they picked Roy... --- The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know anything at all. |
| Xuxon | Posted 9/13/2008 7:02:50 AM | message detail |
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marth's forward smash was just stupid in melee. basically everyone i knew who was bad used him and spammed it. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 9/13/2008 7:06:25 AM | message detail |
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Tidus/DK/Tails/Cube will be the funniest match ever. Three notable
chokejobs versus a joke character with potential strength. Should be a
blast. --- i got nuthin |
| voltch | Posted 9/13/2008 7:09:23 AM | message detail |
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wth at today's poll,this is a disgrace. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2008 7:18:51 AM | message detail |
| I think it's safe to say that of the 3, DK is the biggest choke. I'm more worried about Tails beating him than him beating Tidus |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2008 7:21:56 AM | message detail |
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his Smash strength is going to be sapped by a more popular character baseless assumption... this is actually what you're arguing. >_> I was saying it's useless to argue about Ike because Pikachu is going to beat him into the ground. It doesn't matter if Ike is stronger or weaker than Marth, he isn't getting out of round 1. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/13/2008 7:32:24 AM | message detail |
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Tag --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| transience | Posted 9/13/2008 7:33:10 AM | message detail |
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so, about Marth vs. Zack --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
