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HotManGravy | Posted 9/11/2008 7:32:28 AM | message detail

...ha. woo female bracket. regardless, it went 56.5-43.5 in Vincent's favour.


No one should have expected differently, imo. I have no idea why people were putting so much faith into Zelda (well actually I do, but lol female bracket and ZSS). Zelda had never proven to be anywhere close to Vincent's level, yet all of a sudden everyone thought it sounded good for some reason. Kinda like why I've never understood the Ganon/Zelda arguments, but at least that has some wacky SFF involved that could potentially make things interesting. She's just not that strong.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/11/2008 8:23:30 AM | message detail
you know, if Zelda actually gets by Knuckles (and by a good bit), is it possible she could slip by X IF a Mario vs X match would be more of a killing?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2008 8:24:13 AM | message detail
She possibly could if she somehow avoids LFF entirely.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/11/2008 8:31:30 AM | message detail
I'm really intrigued by Mario's and MMX's matches together, especially with all the other Nintendo interference in every match they share. Mudkip (and probably Zelda by my guess) will be in their first encounter, then likely Luigi and Bowser share the next match...then Link (and a small chance of Lucario) will be greeting them after that. We, by all means, shouldn't get a clear reading on how MMX holds up in comparison to MM...and if they share fanbases like we think, then seeing how they all hold up to one-another should be fun in its own regard.
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transience | Posted 9/11/2008 9:05:00 AM | message detail
Mudkip is a hundred times more likely to move on than Zelda there.
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/11/2008 10:03:39 AM | message detail
I dunno if it's gonna be as favorable for Mudkip > Zelda as you suggest:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2901

Zelda's "only" losing to Bidoof by 5.49%...and Link's in the poll. Mario shouldn't SFF Zelda nearly as much, Mario will take less percentage of the poll than Link, and MMX may not be as strong as Vincent...so that's more percentage up for grabs; if Pokemon are fairly static and woouldn't gain much from that, then that's a small advantage for Zelda there too. I don't care if Bidoof or Mudkip is stronger, they're gonna be about the same in this kind of situation anyway...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2903

...Mudkip should probably still be favored since he was 6.09% under Ganon when Luigi was in the poll and Mario is going to hurt Zelda worse than that, but I don't think it's a "hundred times more likely" or anything. The first round should tell us more about this situation, assuming Zelda advances.
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transience | Posted 9/11/2008 10:05:29 AM | message detail
it's a simple matter of percentages. Mudkip picked up a good 25% against two much stronger Nintendo characters. now he's facing two more -- you could argue three. Mudkip's probably a lock for 20%.

do you honestly expect Zelda to get one fourth of the 80% available with Mario and MMX in the poll? 'cause I don't.
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/11/2008 10:08:37 AM | message detail
I don't either, but I don't think Mudkip is going to wind up too far ahead of Zelda and we don't know how well Zelda will hold up to Mario yet. If Knuckles can't keep it close with her in the first round (say, within 4%), then she has a shot at third. It's hard to argue much about it until after the first round though...haha, and it's still an argument over who gets third and fourth.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/11/2008 10:20:09 AM | message detail
Are you guys really arguing who gets third or fourth?
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_Hogger_ | Posted 9/11/2008 10:20:56 AM | message detail
Are you guys really arguing who gets third or fourth?

What else is there to do till Tuesday?
transience | Posted 9/11/2008 10:21:51 AM | message detail
hey, I think Mudkip has a chance at second. it all depends on how badly Mario beats down X.

Knuckles being there would help, too, seeing as he'd do better since he's more independent.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/11/2008 10:24:26 AM | message detail
If Mudkip can't get past Luigi and Ganondorf, he's not getting past Mario and Mega Man X. I seriously doubt Mega Man would absolutely fold to SFF in any given match.
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transience | Posted 9/11/2008 10:26:15 AM | message detail
Luigi and Ganondorf split the vote evenly, though, and there was a weak fourth in Vergil. if Mario hurts MMX like Link hurt Zero last year, it's possible.

wouldn't call it likely, but I'd say it's more likely than Zelda having a chance in hell of placing in that matchup.
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/11/2008 10:27:24 AM | message detail
Mudkip scares me in some ways, but that's not a very big fear of mine.

MMX/MM/Zero/Mudkip, however...watch out!
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transience | Posted 9/11/2008 10:27:55 AM | message detail
MMX/MM/Zero/Mudkip more like Mudkip/Mario/Luigi/Bowser

oh god
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/11/2008 10:28:40 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, no way Zelda places in that match -- again, she'll be doing good to get third.
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/11/2008 10:29:40 AM | message detail
Mario/Wario/Lucario/Mudkip

Mudkip wins solely by sounding different.....
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transience | Posted 9/11/2008 10:32:52 AM | message detail
my matchup would actually happen if X loses!
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/11/2008 10:34:45 AM | message detail
...oh God, you're right.



I'm not rooting for MMX to lose, but, I mean...I would like to see how Mario/Bowser/Luigi/Mudkip went down.
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/11/2008 10:36:31 AM | message detail
Also, if Mudkip was to pull that crazy upset and Lucario could pull his more-reasonable upset, we could see Link/Mario/Lucario/Mudkip...the first time we'd ever see some Pokemanz-on-manz action. That would also be interesting, though that's not a match I ever want to root for.
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/11/2008 10:45:34 AM | message detail
Also, just to change the discussion to something more light-hearted, let's talk favorites...brackets and prizes aside, how do you hope each division ends with your own preferences?


Link > Duke Nukem
Knuckles > Mario
Scorpion > GlaDOS
Ike > Diddy Kong
Solid > Mega Man (hooray, this one's realistic!)
Yoshi > Cloud
Raiden > Master Chief
Sonic > Tifa

Lots of disappointment coming my way!
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Suikoden3Cecile | Posted 9/11/2008 10:59:53 AM | message detail
hehe

I made a favorites bracket Like I'd win for realz I suck at predicting
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MnMZero | Posted 9/11/2008 11:05:50 AM | message detail
Well I already have my "Zero" bracket submitted... hehe
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/11/2008 11:34:45 AM | message detail
Kefka > Marth > Guybrush > Cecil
Luigi > Sho > Phoenix > Mario
Frog > Neku > Samus > GlaDOS
Ike > Alucard > Crono > Meta-Knight
Vivi > DDD > Mega Man > Snake
Edgeworth > Ness > bleh
Kain > Leon > Kirby > Lucas
Magus > Rydia > Ocelot > bleh

The only person in my top 2s that has any chance of advancing out of their division is...Kefka. Ouch.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2008 1:00:05 PM | message detail
Zidane>Link>Isaac>Niko
Luigi>Mega Man X>Phoenix Wright>Bowser
GlaDOS>Raz>Gordon Freeman>Wander
Ike>Amaterasu>Kratos Aurion>Captain Falcon
Vivi>Solid Snake>Mega Man>Tidus
Ness>Edgeworth>Mewtwo>Travis Touchdown
Raiden>Laharl>Ramza>Dante
Auron>Ocelot>meh

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MnMZero | Posted 9/11/2008 1:18:27 PM | message detail
Link > Zidane
Bowser > Knuckles
Samus > Falco
Diddy Kong > Crono
Zero > Ryu > Vivi (had to throw Vivi in there. He and Ryu are back-to-back)
Cloud > Squall
Big Boss > Master Chief
Sonic > Tifa
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The Mana Sword | Posted 9/11/2008 1:24:46 PM | message detail
Favorites, huh?

Hmm.

Cecil > Marth
Phoenix > Fei
KOS-MOS > Balthier
Crono > Ike
Vivi > Snake
Edgeworth > Yoshi
Raiden > Dante
...whoa, I really don't care about anyone in division 8. Ocelot > Rydia I guess.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2008 2:51:05 PM | message detail
Division 1: Zidane Tribal > Zack (Seriously, this division is full of bleh)
Division 2: Luigi > Knuckles the Echidna > Phoenix Wright > Roxas
Division 3: Balthier > Neku > Frog > Vincent
Division 4: Ryu > Diddy Kong > Meta Knight > Kratos Aurion
Division 5: Tidus > Solid Snake > Zero > Vivi
Division 6: Squall Leonhart > Cloud Strife > Miles Edgeworth > Sora
Division 7: Kirby > Ramza Beoulve > Big Boss > Raiden
Division 8: Revolver Ocelot > Auron >= Tifa > Sonic
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ZFS | Posted 9/11/2008 3:29:44 PM | message detail
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ZFS | Posted 9/11/2008 3:30:52 PM | message detail
breaking news alert: Tifa wins because of TJF

(aw yeah who remembers this)

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/11/2008 3:31:55 PM | message detail
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on second thought let's not do this
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2008 3:36:59 PM | message detail
Sho Over Here
Can't Afflict Havoc
Toward Our Analyses

...Right?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2008 4:17:02 PM | message detail
...So...yeah. Never seen the topic so slow when a contest is this close, but it has been a while.

Some mock R2 pics (based on most likely possible results)!

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6630/r21stmatchqj3.png
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/962/r21stmatch2fx9.png

Not touching the second match.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4913/r23rdmatchig1.png

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2008 4:19:47 PM | message detail
We've seen Mega Man smash Yoshi into oblivion before yet fail to SFF Yoshi anywhere near close enough for Knuckles to beat him last year...and, while Mario > Mega Man, Zelda > Yoshi and I don't think Mario could SFF Zelda like MM did Yoshi. All of that doesn't necessarily mean much, but I like Zelda's odds based on that.

Given that Rikku gave Knuckles a scare, and he and Yoshi had a similar ratio between the two rounds, I think it's safe to say Yoshi and Knuckles were hurting eachother as well. You don't go from beating Magus (albeit overrated turd Magus) and almost going even with Squall to nearly being beat by Rikku (with Vaan in the poll to boot).
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2008 4:38:24 PM | message detail
Wario > Zack, huh? Get that outta here!
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2008 4:49:09 PM | message detail
You don't go from beating Magus (albeit overrated turd Magus) and almost going even with Squall to nearly being beat by Rikku (with Vaan in the poll to boot).

To be fair, I'd take Rikku over Magus in an upset. She's not really that far below Knux... she drew only a little less against Ryu than Knux did against Squall. Squall > Ryu, yes, but not by a huge margin.

As for favorites divisions:
Kefka > Marth
Lloyd Irving > Liquid Snake
Scorpion > KOS-MOS (this division is so weak)
Meta-Knight > Alucard
Tidus > Ryu Hayabusa
Squall > Cloud
Kirby > Dante (ouch such a hurtful division why are all that I love there)
Revolver Ocelot > Sephiroth
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2008 4:52:19 PM | message detail
Oh, I guess Balthier is in Scorpion's division... though I dunno, I haven't been quite as fond of Balthier lately... I might actually vote Scorpion in that match... he just doesn't seem to have a lasting impression. Maybe it's just because the game was so bleh.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2008 5:19:13 PM | message detail
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or

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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2008 5:23:21 PM | message detail
The second one is pretty neat, but the first one will (obviously) be more recognizable.
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Midget_Fetish | Posted 9/11/2008 5:23:49 PM | message detail
I like the second better, personally.
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2008 5:33:48 PM | message detail
Second one for the win. And I dunno how much the recognizability matters... it's not like the first one is "the Ike pic" or something.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/11/2008 5:36:29 PM | message detail
Not like Ike's getting out of the second round anyways!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2008 5:39:33 PM | message detail
He'll get out of the first round though!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/11/2008 7:28:29 PM | message detail
You don't go from beating Magus (albeit overrated turd Magus) and almost going even with Squall to nearly being beat by Rikku (with Vaan in the poll to boot).

that's because his match with Squall was a fluke.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2008 7:53:12 PM | message detail
Not like he's getting out of the first round either
Midget_Fetish | Posted 9/11/2008 8:08:26 PM | message detail
Because nobody's played Fire Emblem and all of Ike's brawl strength will be leeched by Pikachu.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2008 8:16:33 PM | message detail
That's pretty much the jist of it
MadGamer_11 | Posted 9/11/2008 8:16:45 PM | message detail
Nobody answered my question on what everyone thinks of Roxas? You think he can get past Liquid? And if so can he pass either Bowser/Luigi because they SFF?
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/11/2008 8:19:32 PM | message detail
I think pre-MGS4 maybe Roxas would beat Liquid, but I think with the recency of MGS4 Liquid should be boosted enough to win there. I'm convinced that even with Luigi/Bowser SFF, they're both so much stronger than Liquid that he won't be able to make it past them.
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