GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 561
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2008 5:03:56 PM | message detail |
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Random change of topic: What does everyone think of the
Sephiroth/Tifa/Nana/Ratchet match? Does everyone have Tifa advancing?
Or do you think Nana/Ratchet will oust her? If so, which one? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/9/2008 5:09:26 PM | message detail |
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Nana and Ratchet are just too weak. Simple as that. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/9/2008 5:37:55 PM | message detail |
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That match will mirror Seph's Round 1 match last year, with Tifa being Peach, Nana being MK and Ratchet being CATS book it --- Moltar Status: =D Brawlin' - 4339-2157-7264 |
| ZFS | Posted 9/9/2008 5:38:25 PM | message detail |
| Get Nana outta here. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 9/9/2008 5:38:37 PM | message detail |
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If either has a chance of ousting Tifa, it would be Ratchet. But I don't think Ratchet is strong enough --- Married to Heroic Palmer! HeroicTronBonne - "Albion, I would Love to do an account bet with you over Ike/Arthas. " Don't forget! |
| Lopen | Posted 9/9/2008 5:39:11 PM | message detail |
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You're booking Nana I'm afraid I have to resign from the AC, sir --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Latest RS&D Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=45247247 |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2008 5:39:43 PM | message detail |
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lulz Ratchet --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| Lopen | Posted 9/9/2008 5:42:33 PM | message detail |
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The amount Tifa will get SFFed by Sephiroth is being a bit overrated methinks. I really think that Kratos
will have to work a bit to beat her. Not saying it's ever in doubt but
I don't think he's going to obliterate her. And forget that fodder
crap. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Latest RS&D Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=45247247 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2008 5:42:49 PM | message detail |
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I'd give Ratchet a better shot than Nana, seriously. Who gives a crap
about Nana, even if she is Smash Bros.? No one's even going to get the
"joke," if it can be called such a thing. This is basically measuring
what percentage of the site will vote for Smash Bros., no matter what. Or how few people have played Ice Climbers. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| ZFS | Posted 9/9/2008 5:44:49 PM | message detail |
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I think people are going to be surprised at how well Tifa does here,
despite Sephiroth being with her the entire way through. Tifa will take
her first match with ease and - win or lose - she'll have a very close
second round with Kratos. Book that ! (come on upset) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2008 5:49:07 PM | message detail |
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I think Kratos has that second round match easily. Nana, not so much. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2008 5:56:54 PM | message detail |
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I'd give Ratchet a better shot than Nana, seriously. Who gives a
crap about Nana, even if she is Smash Bros.? No one's even going to get
the "joke," if it can be called such a thing. This is basically
measuring what percentage of the site will vote for Smash Bros., no
matter what. Have you forgotten how incredibly weak Ratchet is? At least Nana has the advantage of being the only Nintendo character plus being a Smash character. I don't see how she's a "joke". She's one half of "Ice Climbers", who are playable characters. It won't take a joke to get her votes. Only whether or not Ice Climbers have any fans. I mean, you could have said the same thing about Master Hand... --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2008 5:58:53 PM | message detail |
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I'm well aware of how weak Ratchet is, but I still give him a better
shot than Nana. I don't see the appeal at all. Honestly, I was scared
of Master Hand against Kuja back then, but I see no reason to worry
about Nana at all. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2008 6:01:39 PM | message detail |
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So you actually think Ratchet would beat Ice Climbers (which is essentially what votes for Nana would be for). Why am I arguing this? *leaves* --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/9/2008 6:02:46 PM | message detail |
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While Tifa may not be on Vincent's level, Tifa has less in common with
Seph so maybe she wouldn't be SFF'd quite as bad as Vincent was last
year. From there, check this: --Replace Link (~36.5% in Seph/Mario/Link/Vincent) with Nana (one of the Ice Climbers and isn't known by her name). --Replace Mario (~22% in Seph/Mario/Link/Vincent) with Ratchet (lost to Thrall by 2.3% last year). Although Nana and Ratchet won't be sharing fanbases, the standard to pass into the next round is FAR lower. Sephiroth is going to absorb all sorts of percentage since he's the only NN'er and two of them are fodder, as he's done before: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2871 We can probably agree that neither Nana nor Ratchet would outdo Peach's performance, and there is a lot of room for Tifa to grow with the new percentage left behind from Link/Mario. Tifa wouldn't lose much more to Sephiroth than Vincent did, either, so you gotta decide how close Tifa is to Vincent and how much of Link/Mario's ~58.5% she can get. If Tifa could have matched Vincent's performance last year, can Tifa get 6+%? If Tifa would have come close to Vincent's performance last year, can she get 7+%? If Tifa wouldn't come close to matching Vincent, can she get 8+%? I think Tifa would have come pretty close to what Vincent did in S/M/L/V, and I think it's reasonable that she gets 7+% there. That's12% of what's left for grabs; for a playable character in the game that built this site and up up big numbers on Sonic and especially Samus (anomaly or not!), those are odds I'll bet on despite Sephiroth. --- NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2008 6:08:49 PM | message detail |
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While Tifa may not be on Vincent's level, Tifa has less in common with Seph Based on what exactly? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/9/2008 6:12:47 PM | message detail |
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Their look and style of characters both suggest cool mysterious men,
mainly. While that's not deep, their labels are similar and Seph/Tifa
would have a hard time finding more similarities than that. --- NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/9/2008 6:13:32 PM | message detail |
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Tifa is up against competition she can realistically quadruple. Ryu
couldn't even beat the stronger Auron by much with Cloud in the poll;
Sephiroth is supposed to sap Tifa enough to lose to these two? --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2008 6:15:18 PM | message detail |
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Well, Tifa and Seph have a closer storyline connection. Tifa has trends
that are different from any other FFVII character we've seen so far.
She's the only one with a stronger night vote than a day vote. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| ZFS | Posted 9/9/2008 6:15:43 PM | message detail |
| Tifa seems more capable of holding up against Sephiroth than someone like Vincent. She'll still lose a large chunk of votes to him for sure, but Vincent seems more susceptible to lose his fans to Sephiroth than Tifa. For everyone reason people like Vincent, Sephiroth's got it and then some. Tifa's a bit different - she should be able to keep more of her fans. Not a bad thought, but not something that's a guarantee either. |
| ZFS | Posted 9/9/2008 6:18:35 PM | message detail |
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Yeah. Tifa ain't losing to fodder like Ratchet and Nana. They won't even get close. Kratos is another matter, but given how Auron nearly managed to get by Ryu with Cloud in the poll gives me some hope there. Sephiroth is no Cloud, and I wouldn't quite put Kratos on even ground with Ryu while I'd put Tifa at or a little above Auron's level. Gotta deal with direct FFVII instead of cross generation or whatever, but I think everything ends up balancing out. Looking forward to this match. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2008 6:20:11 PM | message detail |
| I still don't think Vincent got SFF'd by Sephiroth
much. I point again to Sephiroth's percentage relations to Mario and
Link not being off at all. If Vincent suffered from anything, it was
from having 3 much stronger characters in the poll. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/9/2008 6:20:14 PM | message detail |
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Sephiroth and Vincent were up against very strong competition in that
poll, so I think there may have been some sort of unified effort by the
Square fans to get their stronger entrant through. Replace Mario and
Link with, say, Wario and Fox, and I very much doubt that Vincent
performs as poorly relative to Sephiroth. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/9/2008 6:21:09 PM | message detail |
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And yes, like mnm says, he was the odd man out in a poll with three powerhouses. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/9/2008 6:21:17 PM | message detail |
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Auron's at least equal with Tifa, I'd say, and I'd put Kratos at Ryu's
level and feel pretty comfortable, and then you've got *much* more
overlap between Seph/Tifa and Cloud/Auron.... yeah. I'm more looking
forward to seeing New Ocelot out of that sixteen-pack. nothing else
strikes me as being too interesting. --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2008 6:22:54 PM | message detail |
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I point again to Sephiroth's percentage relations to Mario and Link not being off at all. And Link and Mario did nothing to each other? I don't think so. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| ZFS | Posted 9/9/2008 6:24:25 PM | message detail |
| Well, I wouldn't take Kratos to beat Ryu one-on-one quite yet. I think it'd be close - 52/48 kinda match - and while that's not much, every little bit counts. FFVII SFF instead of FFVII/FFX SFF will be harder, but Sephiroth isn't Cloud - he doesn't have the same kind of vote stealing power. I think it all balances out to what you had with Auron/Ryu - a close match that Tifa can definitely win. Kratos should be the favorite there for sure, but given what I've seen in here, I think some people will be surprised, whether or not Tifa wins. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2008 6:30:15 PM | message detail |
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And Link and Mario did nothing to each other? I don't think so. Sephiroth still looks to give Mario a 60/40 beating. It's not that far off. People talk like Vincent got SFF'd into the ground. That's simply not the case. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2008 6:31:31 PM | message detail |
| It just says to me that Link/Mario LFF and
Seph/Vincent LFF was relatively equal, so it was as if there was none.
We've already seen in the past that Link/Mario LFF does exist. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/9/2008 6:32:49 PM | message detail |
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I'm of the opinion that people tend to overrate LFF, given last year,
which is probably happening here. That also leads people to pick
things, like, say, Liquid Snake over Bowser. --- Mustache...and green... |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2008 6:39:04 PM | message detail |
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But by talking about Vincent getting SFF'd by Sephiroth, you're saying
that Vincent got a lower percentage than he should normally as a direct
result of Sephiroth being in the poll. If anything, shouldn't that mean that Sephiroth should have benefited from Vincent, especially
with Link/Mario LFF. Yet, Sephiroth's percentages compared to Link and
Mario aren't too far off from what their strength levels are. Nothing
really says that Vincent suffered from Sephiroth alone in that poll. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/9/2008 7:26:06 PM | message detail |
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Hey, HM? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Ngamer/08contestpics/vh7vrr.jpg Just wanted to let you know that this is the wrong size. It's supposed to be 140 x 75, not 145 x 70. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/9/2008 9:13:41 PM | message detail |
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I'd say Nana is about as strong as pre-Brawl Pit, possibly even weaker.
I know stats from last contest are pretty useless, but Vincent's raw
value (where he got like 7% in his loss) completely destroys pre-Brawl
Pit. Plus I don't think the Tifa/Samus match was a *complete* fluke.
Tifa will get SFFd pretty badly, but enough to lose to Nana? I don't
see that one. ~*ST*~ --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Crisis Core, Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/9/2008 11:26:39 PM | message detail |
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I think Tifa in Round Two will be very interesting. Everything that
should be said has been said to my knowledge, so...should be good. I'm
taking Kratos, but it'll be fun to see what happens. --- NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2008 4:41:23 AM | message detail |
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People are making me want to take Tifa here...Must...resist urge...to change bracket. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| transience | Posted 9/10/2008 4:45:25 AM | message detail |
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if Nana's as strong as pre-Brawl Pit I'd laugh. if Nana got 18% against anybody that isn't fodder I'd probably laugh, in fact. go ahead, pick Tifa! --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/10/2008 4:48:05 AM | message detail |
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so what would have Crono done in Vincent's spot in that match? --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| _Yonex_ | Posted 9/10/2008 4:56:33 AM | message detail |
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Just in case some of you havn't seen it yet. I'm holding a Perfect
Bracket Contest to see who can keep a perfect bracket going the longest. Sign up here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=45275448 --- how rude http://img.imgcake.com/Yonex/thebigwerewolf.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2008 5:36:02 AM | message detail |
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I mean picking Tifa over Kratos in round 2. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/10/2008 6:12:44 AM | message detail |
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I'm still mad Aeris isn't in Tifa's position. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/10/2008 7:20:28 AM | message detail |
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Is there anyway the sc2k5.com site url could be changed to something that doesn't involve video games? My company computer has gamefaqs and sc2k5.com blocked by a firewall. sc2k5.com was the only way for me to check what was going on with a match during work hours! And now they took that away from me. =( Someone help me cheat the system! --- [Multiple Scorgasms] Score: 0/0 Today's Pick: Zack Fair > Wario |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2008 7:27:42 AM | message detail |
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That was the same for me in high school last year. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 0/0 |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/10/2008 7:32:09 AM | message detail |
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Someone help me cheat the system! Get a PDA phone... <_< --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/10/2008 8:10:28 AM | message detail |
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Nope, phones are not allowed inside my working area. The whole base is a restricted area. --- [Multiple Scorgasms] Score: 0/0 Today's Pick: Zack Fair > Wario |
| transience | Posted 9/10/2008 8:12:12 AM | message detail |
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speaking of which, does creative know we've got a contest? and is he ready to handle updates? --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/10/2008 8:18:13 AM | message detail |
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Nope, phones are not allowed inside my working area. The whole base is a restricted area. Base? Where do you work? If you don't mind me asking... Are you contractor or government? --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/10/2008 8:32:12 AM | message detail |
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Schriever AFB. Military worker. --- [Multiple Scorgasms] Score: 0/0 Today's Pick: Zack Fair > Wario |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/10/2008 8:40:28 AM | message detail |
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Oh, okay. I'm civilian navy. Just making sure we weren't on the same network. Sucks for you. <_<; --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 9/10/2008 8:57:58 AM | message detail |
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Well sc2k5.com is the same thing as gamefaqscontests.com, so you could
watch poll results from either site. But if they're both blocked, uh...
well, feel free to continue IMing me as you've done in the past, I'll
let you know what's going on. No need to worry about creative, he knows about the Contest and will be setting things in motion for the updater as well as predicting alongside me in the Oracle this season. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2008 9:22:05 AM | message detail |
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I'm still mad Aeris isn't in Tifa's position. That was my first reaction to seeing Tifa in that spot, too. Now I won't be able to say, "Man, Sephiroth's killing Aeris here!" --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
